Emergence Is Worse Than You Think
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Emergence. Metamorphosis. 177013. Possibly the most memed doujinshi in existence. Written by Shindo L from 2013-2016, this piece quickly picked up notoriety because of its extremely harsh and real tone. Poor Saki lives in a world that just seems to be out to get her. Emergence covers the deepest depravities of the world. Things so horrible I can't even talk about them on TH-cam. But that's okay, my old friend Magic the Gathering ought to be able to help me out with this...
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Mack, im totally traumatised zo darn bad, i got an ercetiled dysfunction and i feel like i wanna carve my heart out and each it up. That doujin was traumaticly void.😰😰😰
@@joelnoland1569 I'm so sorry for your loss 😔😔
Wow, your video is more interesting than source itself, at least it's fun
That sonic frontiers take didn't age well
@@MasterChef1957 Good by sonic standards still isn't good
The fact her mother turned on her is fucking awful but it's actually very common. Many people who get assaulted by their father/father figure and try and confess that horrid thing to their mom very often are shunned and kicked out
Well as we see in the Manga Saki's father remarks about how she looks like her mom from when she was Saki's age (16) and along with how old he looks compared to Saki's mother it's easy to guess Saki's mother might've been groomed. Like, when she was 16 I'm assuming the father at least knew her or how else would he make that connection and he would've been in his 20s or maybe a bit less/more. Also, supposedly, grooming victims that have children with their abuser tend to feel jealousy towards the kids and their bond with the abuser but I don't know it's truth because I read it on the subreddit.
I wonder what a mom would think if a child admitted their older sibling did something. Would they even believe the kid, would they care, would they blame the kid....I'm too scared to find out
yeah, it's actually very common in that kind of traumatic situation, the mother knows in her core but she refuses to believe it because she doesn't want to have been married to a fucking scumbag :(
Because of her mother lust for her husband that's the only reason
Women, amiright?
Seriously though, this is obviously more common with stepdads, women post wall will hate anyone who "gets in the way" of their man, that includes their daughters.
Saki having the shittiest life possible:
Me not having enough counterspells in my deck to save her:
You and me both
CRAZY DIAMOND!1!1!111
I'll use Karn Liberated's ultimate to reset her life!
But sadly, there are people out there that are like this, but most of those people who are out there aren’t young, and they’ve grown up, and grown unhinged due to this sort of exposure!
It’s a depressing state of affairs, and despair can be pretty hard to go through.
The only thing about Saki that we all must remember, is that nobody in real life is As Kind as This Fictional character! Anyone can steal, anyone can kill, and not everyone can fight the drugs that fill their veins. Real Life, and our desire to see a Saki in our lives can be difficult, cause not everyone can be saved
i send ashblossom and joyous spring from my hand to my graveyard to negate uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
"All Saki ever wanted from everyone in her life was acceptance. Saki would go to the ends of the Earth to make people in her life happy, but no matter how far she went, they always wanted more. Saki fought for acceptance in a world that constantly rejected her."
i hate how much this hits close to home
I hope you’re doing well.
If you’re not, things will get better!
"Saki smashed the mirror because what she saw was the first person that rejected her"
Fuck that sent shivers down my spine
Same bro
Ouch, yeah same. I'd try being outgoing and fun, but nobody cared about me growing up, not even my family.
29:05
same brother,same
Saki's story is even more depressing because of how realistic it is. Shit like this happens to young girls far too often and this story hits extremely deep.
Well, even if it happened only one time in all of humanity's history, it would already be far too much.
The reason this work has stuck with me the longest and made me shudder is because it seems so close to reality that there are people that have similar situations happen to them. Thematically there are way worse works, but they all seem so detached from reality that I don't seem to care as much about them.
@@dreamisover9813 not only that but, also, it's a lot of horrible things for only one person to endure. Most will only endure maybe one or two of those horrors. Saki lived them all.
If it were too frequent it wouldn't be so shocking, where do you get that it's so frequent?
@felipemunoz479 we estimate there are about 40 million prostitutes worldwide (largely aged 13-25), of which 90% are dependent on a pimp much how saki was dependent on her "boyfriend," having nobody else in her life and no other means to support herself. we also know that about 90% of prostitutes want to leave the trade but have no resources to do so. people find themselves in this position far more often than you'd like to believe in your little comfort bubble, from families kicking them out after traumatizing abuse taking place, to developing drug addictions, to being manipulated by a pimp into prostituting themselves, and all of these things makes it incredibly hard to just stop doing it, because you have no actual means of supporting yourself. be more compassionate and start googling things.
When you have to forcibly believe and cope that the fan-made Josuke ending using Crazy Diamond to fix her is canon just so this girl could get her life back and move on from all the trash she went through is something I've never done with any other story lmao 💀
I'm pretty sure Shindo confirmed he made the Josuke ending himself in his interview with Joey.
@@dad5draco He didn't make it himself, it was just edited. In that interview he said he approved of that alternate ending (along with others) though haha
Exactly
😭😭
This comic was mediocre, just shock value with no meaning. Franz Kafka's novella The Metamorphosis is a better metamorphosis.
There's a REASON why I accept the josuke ending as the Canon true ending of this
This, I just couldn't accept the ending.
Aye
If only Crazy diamond could erase memories.
@@tenaciousrodent6251 without memories she would do this shit again bro
We should remember our sins and start being a bitter smart
Believe it or not, so does ShindoL
To be honest with yall, this story is sad and horrible to me not because Saki died, not because all the stuff that happened to her, but because I can easily imagine something like this happening irl. Well, I guess you don't even need to imagine something, there are some really sick thing happening every day
It is unfortunately true
She died? What chapter? I read the manga and she had a kid in the end ohh choto matte kudasai, is it delusional?😳
@@roronoa_kenshin it seems like you didn't see the last panel (me too)
the last panel only shows some blood and a pair of glasses. so in reality that's actually saki last thoughts and hope before she died, she probably wanted to overcome the f-ed up situation and raise her daughter but she couldn't, hence why she apologize to her unborn baby for being weak :(
@@roronoa_kenshin There's a final panel after the one with her kid displaying her broken glasses. The panel with the child is just a 'what could've been'.
That's what I thought. Something like this almost certainly *has* happened hundreds of times, and will happen time and time again.
Imagine a mom who is supportive of her child until her dad attacks her and now blames her child who is obviously way weaker than him meaning she literally couldn't fight back well enough without any sort of weapon
Well as we see in the Manga Saki's father remarks about how she looks like her mom from when she was Saki's age (16) and along with how old he looks compared to Saki's mother it's easy to guess Saki's mother might've been groomed. Like, when she was 16 I'm assuming the father at least knew her or how else would he make that connection and he would've been in his 20s or maybe a bit less/more. Also, supposedly, grooming victims that have children with their abuser tend to feel jealousy towards the kids and their bond with the abuser but I don't know it's truth because I read it on the subreddit.
also like her mom was never close and only really cared when she wanted to change herself which is weirdish
Well, it happens alot Japan apparently
@@Nanami_Mitaka happens a lot in america too, and i imagine is just as common everywhere else. ppl r waaay too optimistic about how SA survivors are treated in general :/
Don't have to imagine i have a good friend who went through that and had to keel goig through that to lrotect her sisters because her mom is a c*nt
The optimist in me still rejects the heaven theory.
She gets better she gets better she gets better she gets better she gets better she gets be-
You should read the jojo's ending then
Josukes hagashikata and Okuyasu nijimura have some good news
She gets better she gets better she gets better she gets better she gets better she gets better she gets better she gets better she gets better she gets better-
I have a friend that theorize that the ending actually is a happy ending and the glasses on the gorund in the end is just a representation of her leaving the past in the past and the glasses are just there, like literally doesn't meaning that she died, just saying she just left there and leave, I want to believe in that too...
@@inzonia4403 That's what I thought when I read it too
I only now (almost a year later) found out that *that probably ain't the case...* (Kinda regret watching the video because of that lol)
The final panel of the glasses doesn't exist, it ends with her getting her life together and having a daughter. You can't tell me otherwise.
real
Yes, that's what I read too. In the end, she get her life together and she had a kid they walk together. I'm getting confused to other comment bc they said she died in the end.
She was lucky josuke found her and healed her.
@@roronoa_kenshin she did die
The good end where her child survives is either an alternate 'ending' to placate us or a hallucination
..R/Woosh
that went right over my head
Ending concept: turns out Saki had a red behelit the entire time and she sacrifices all the bullies and folks and becomes a new member of the godhand because fuck everyone in that story except Saki
To me, it's a sobering deconstruction of the (gag) "deflowering" genre of eromanga, and insight into what would happen to those girls in real life. It forces you to confront that twisted narrative and see them as real people.
Why are you gagging at the word deflower?
@@Luvilliit's just kinda a gross word to use. Like how "moist" is a gross word for some
@Miss Fazbear that makes sense.. but then why did they use it.. they didn't have to.. I think it's weirder to use the word and then write out "(gag)"
@@Luvilli probably just for dramatics, I do things like that sometimes just for fun.
@@missfazbear8810 oh ok
I contest that Emergence is not Worse Than You Think, but instead the Best Story You Never Want to Read Again.
That's a good title...
Exactly! The story still haunts me because there are so many points at which the destructive spiral could have been halted if Saki had just bumped into one person who genuinely cared for her wellbeing enough to help her get back on her feet, but instead she was horribly betrayed by everyone who should normally have taken care of her. No previous piece of fiction has ever made me nearly so desperate to reach through my monitor to rescue a character, which I figure is exactly what the author was going for. It genuinely made me fearful of standing idly by when someone really needs help.
The only other story that made me even more desperate to rescue a character was Mii Inside the Box, but that one isn't as well written, and it's way, WAY more revolting. That one left me with cursed images burned onto my retinas, smouldering rage, and an urge to donate large sums of money to charity so that I might find peace once again.
As someone who works with people who abuse substances the story actually isn`t too far off from what a lot of peole you see hanging around high as f*ck at the train station go through. The story is not too unrealistic, so yeah 100% agree with you.
So a tragedy
what? its garbage
I want a doujinshi where the maiden finds a good spouse, has lots of kids, grandkids and great-grandkids, and loves to 100 with a happy, peaceful life.
So you're more of a fairy tale kinda guy
“Me too kid”
There's sexercise that is a nice read: it's about a guy that finds a peculiar gym.
It's made by Choe Namsae and Shuroop.
There's a moth girl story you may want to check out😁❤
There's a pretty wholesome and hot one. Something like "my daily life as a pervert". It's a wholesome yet realistic depiction of nymphomania and how her partner deals with it. It does brush up with ntr on occassion, scaring you that it will happen, but it never does, to my memory!
I think the worst part of this manga is that it's semi-realistic. Sure, a lot of things have been blown over-the-top and hyperbole. But the synopsis of a shy schoolgirl with potential slowly spiralling down this rabbit hole into what she is at the end of the book can and already did happen in this world. When I found out that Saki recovered and had a kid. Whilst I was initially confused on how she could've recovered from all of that, I just went along with it because picturing any other ending is just too heartbreaking (ignoring the glasses on the bloodied floor).
If that makes you feel better I won't fault you lol
Maybe I am an optimist but I do think that the cruelty is often exaggerated to get a point across. I am not saying this wouldn't happen cos we have seen way more morbid situations irl, but I do think Saki would have encountered some more acts of kindness in the real world. Someone buying her a meal, giving her money without wanting anything in return, taking her to a shelter, etc. While its true that the world has a lot of evil in it, it also has a lot of good.
@@BuglordSupreme It all up to chance. Also it may seem semi realistic by dark seinen manga standards, but by hentai standards, this is a prety realistic work, making us face the fact that common fetish tropes, while hot in fiction (and nothing wrong with them if they stay there) are awful in reality. Most noticeable in case of the drugs, in most mangas it usually just some mysterious liquid they force inject, turning the victim into comically crazy. In emergence its pretty clear what it can be with the spoon and the succumbtion is also more gradual
Wasn't it based on anecdotes shindol saw or heard about in new york?
I'm a 6ft2 hairy muscular guy and your speech at the end of the video made me tear up. I had never seen the story through this lense yet it's so evident. I too am like Saki. My whole life people have wanted to show me affection and care and I've always rejected them, convinced the hatred I have for my features and face were the way everyone feels about me too. Just to end up sitting alone and wondering why no one cares about me. Sometimes I have flashbacks of high school or earlier moments of my life and realize such or such person talking to me out of the blue was them geniunly wanting to interract with me and befriend me. I assumed I annoyed them as much as their presence would annoy me. This is the thing about me and so many other humans. We spend our life craving for love and complaining about being lonely but then anyone talking to me will repulse me and I will innerly wish to be left alone
I get that, I've been through that kind of thing. I think it's a best practice to take people at their word until you have a reason not to. People want to know you, don't stop them because you don't think they'll like what they find. Let them make that decision
This accidentally became a cursed tutorial…
Can’t believe this is how I learned the basics of Magic
Lose innocence, gain mtg. Seems like a fair trade
@@CaptainMack that is a pretty good trade.
For me!
The joke- it’s on you!
Little did you know I have no innocence!
You just gave me free knowledge!
Mwahahahaa!
(4reals tho ooc. Please allow me to
Kiss your bottom for just a sec)
Hope You and Luna have settled in well at your new home! Adore your content! ++++Appreciation for the pure care and so much time you put into every video!
You’re gonna go far, don’t forget to bring a towel 💖
Same here
@@CaptainMack Sounds like something out of Berserk. A powerful sacrifice.
WHY DID YOU USE JERMA AS THE YUCKY GUY
This story makes me genuinely upset that Saki died at the end of it and it hurts so much to see someone so kind and innocent taken advantage of and die by people that she use to call friends. The story isn't happy nor does it ever let you think that's what it is, and I have a feeling that the author either wanted to make you sad as fuck or wanted to try telling us that when you see someone in need help them. So, I will say three things. Fuck everyone in that Doujin. Don't treat people like Saki like they're shit and try to make the world a loving and caring place where we all try to help each other instead of ignoring one another, because that's how Stories like these, can actually happen to some who doesn't care about themselves and put others above them.
All good takeaways my brother
I have an even greater feeling that the author of the doujin was just genuinely turned on by the idea. God knows there’s worse shit out there.
@@Synchronizit I'll go one step further and say it is better that it was a doujin. Anything else would have been too censored to tell the full story
@@vernaltear the other comment didny say the title of the Trash Taste video so just search Trash taste ShinoL
@@vernaltear the author said that there was a contest where people had to make the worst story possible but when the author saw what was the ones considered the "worst" he said that he felt that they were holding back so he made this.
The darkest part about this story is that, this actually happens, happened and will continue to happen in real life. This world is just too cruel.
yes, unfortunately it can happen to anyone
@@Angelo-jr6px Not anyone... Anyone trapped in our inhuman system.
This type of stuff doesn't happen (or very rarely does) when people have opportunities in life like free and open access to healthcare, housing, food, jobs and good education.
To save these people, besides helping them as much as we can, we have to fight the root of the problem that is capitalism.
@@daviceconelo5275 in fact I wrote that it can happen to everyone, not that it happens to everyone
This isn't a hentai, this is phychological horror
And who ever considers it hentai is deeply in need of a padded cell.
@@UncreativeNit's posted on a hentai site. Doesn't matter if it's the most horrific shit ever. It's still a hentai.
Allow me to correct myself, @@Anty_Praza. Anyone who pounds one out to this bullshit is mentally unwell.
@Anty_Praza yea I mean fr. Say what you want. It is. It's a good story buried under grotesque and superfluous sex. No getting around the fact that this is a hentsi ass hentai
I've seen worse
Good video but you forgot the part where Josuke healed her with Crazy Diamond and Saki lived happily ever after
XD
i agree
why is jojo everywhere?
The worst part of this manga is that not only heard and read story's just like this way before I even heard of this manga but I probably know people who had gone though something like this. And were I live in nyc. You see people who remind me of her. some of them get good endings and some just dissapeared
It's tragically real despite what some people want to believe
@@CaptainMack yep, even the "kids bullying bums" is a real life problem. It didn't change much since Clockwork Orange.
At least Saki didn't get set on fire by them, she'd be way deader.
I live in NYC as well and grew up in the south bronx. Literally in middle school i knew girls who had this life almost exactly. I never read the manga but I listened to this video and am happy I never read it.
@@NiMissNi yah I live in the south bronx too. By the joker steps.
@@ivanpabon2741 I lived near them too, but on the concourse by the courthouse. You went to Taft?
You forgot the part where it's revealed to take place in Morioh and Okuyasu and Josuke find her. Josuke heals her with his stand Crazy Diamond and she lives happily with her daughter, remembering the kindness of Josuke and Okuyasu that night.
Cruel to think Kira might've been one of the nicest guys in that town compared to these douchebags. At least his kills are painless
@@CBman11037 My name is Yoshikage Kira. I’m 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don’t smoke, but I occasionally drink. I’m in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning.
@@somebody9932 Girl desreved it tbh. You never diss the bowling pin clippers.
This would be a beautifully written tragedy about how people can take advantage of others and use you if you lack confidence as well as a lesson on peer pressure, addiction, and the need to fit in...if it wasn't posted on n-hentai for people to tickle the pickle to
Wonderfully worded
In all honesty, I think you're missing the point. The manga is advertised as a hentai, and adopts the surface level characteristics of a hentai yes, but it's not meant to be used as such, it's meant to lure in people heartless enough to be into non consensual shit, and traumatize them as they deserve.
@@accountid9681 no, I mean it is literally known for being posted on nhentai. It's a hentai
idk what u on bro i checked it out and at the ending i was like damn thats crazy and kept beating@@accountid9681
@@accountid9681 You're framing it as if it's tricking people without giving them what they want, but that's not the case. There are copious amounts of sex scenes drawn like any other hentai. It does not matter if there's a 'hidden, deep meaning' to all of it, those who want to jerk off to a girl getting raped are getting exactly what they want.
Fun fact the the Mangaka of Metamorphasis said in a podcast that he planned the story to be much more depressing and a bit more darker but his editor made him cut it out.
…. That is and nothing but terrifying concept his editor is a hero because imagine how F-ed we would have been if the mangaka was at full power
This could get any worse…
@@thangfahsavung9120
On that same podcast (trash taste) he said that the pregnancy tag is vanilla. The inner machinations of ShindoL’s mind are a wonder of the world.
@@sirapple589 I mean it is, breeding is vanilla, the fetish came free with your genetics
@@tylerb5764
True although it’s worth pointing out I was actually wrong, ShindoL actually said that the birthing tag is vanilla.
Now I don’t know about you, but I don’t think most people would masturbate to birthing.
so this poor child is just tortured endlessly and then doesn’t even get a happy ending
That is the story yes
Worst part is the author said he was inspired by the women he saw in the US, so something like this must’ve happened to a poor girl out there
@@unavailablemixi Either that or the women he saw/met in the US gave him that impression. Honestly I don't blame him, and I live here.
@@unavailablemixiAs someone who grew up in the states, that makes total sense. The story is very similar to things that have actually happened to people i know. It’s crazy how easy it is to go down that path
@@unavailablemixi As someone from the US… yeah. This sort of thing happened to a girl at my school. She died in the end and everything. Totally f’d up. Wish it was only a story.
The fuckers who've been hurting Saki throughout this story do NOT deserve the human classification
they are non-persons
yeah, ShindoL said he wrote Emergence because of his experience living in the US. I believe it, because it's a common story. It's a story you hate because it's a real thing. I've read some messed up H, but they're usually so divorced from reality that there's just no way to associate them with reality. This one, you get because you've heard about it on the news, or with friends, or heard about that one cousin states away.
I hate Saki's parents so much
They are genuinely evil
@@CaptainMack Fr
Immediately.
TH-cam will hunt me if I wrote the things up I wanna do to them and generally everyone in this story. Except, of course, Saki. Poor girl deserves SOO much better.
I think something that makes this story in particular so shocking and very important is that it exists as a complete subversion of many shitty hentai tropes. Where something in some other hentai would be a main working premise, would be fetishized and sexualized, in Emergence it walks through what it's really like. In reality, Emergence is much closer to what would really happen to someone who experiences the things many write in hentai.
Emergence isn't a hentai though . It's just an 18+ manga the author I think chose that medium for its lack of censorship to bring us this story. That being said hentai isn't always supposed to be intellectual, it's a fantasy, sexual taboo fantasies are common so hentai authors market those ideas. So what are you talking about.
@chaoticenbybard6699 The TH-camr literally described it as a hentai in the video. I don't really study hentai, so I took his word for it.
Regardless of whether or not it is fantasy I would still say there is a reason even certain fantasies are still regulated. If one gets off to rape, regardless of real or not, that isn't something I would say is healthy. ASSUMING, that this was a hentai, and acknowledging that rape and sexual abuse is so common in them to the point of being a joke by many, a story which actually shows the ramifications of that type of abuse in a world where the story usually ends without doing so is a subversion of the usual fetishizing. And I think that is interesting and valuable because it encourages people to reflect on what it is we're really looking at.
My point is this particular story is unique and interesting because it is meant to be thought provoking.
The story is good, the sex is hot. The perfect manga
@@chaoticenbybard6699 IT could be seen as a deconstruction of Hentai though....
@@minnion2871 that would be very interesting. japan has a real issue with pornography.
I can’t remember a lot from this dojin but I really wish her parents did more to warn her about men like hayato . Like I understand parents wanted to shield their kids from topics like that but not having a conversation at all could do more damage
Like she was naïve because of her parents negligence to have conversations that parents should have with their children and their lack of connection with her.
Tldr her parents are shit and responsible
I think her parents are bad for a good number of other reasons too :)
You wrote this before hitting play, huh?
this taught me how to play magic
edit- i am bawling. what the _fuck_ is this doujinshi. i went into this thinking "yea i could probably handle this, its literally just a hentai manga lmao". it was not *just* a hentai manga it was a fucking test for my psyche and my morals and how i see the world. i will never be the same
This is what emergence does to people
Now I have to read it to see if you're week, or if it's really that bad.
@@Anty_Praza Update bro? For me it didnt go well. I skipped a night of sleep while consuming an entire copium tank.
@@FxWitch Here's your update:
So I actually forgot to read it due to procrastination and only read it a minute ago. @feixou definitely exaggerated, it isn't THAT bad, I've read worse. The only thing that was shocking was the last chapter. And the manga on itself feels like it was done by two friends for a diploma of how drugs affect people, human anatomy, sociology. It doesn't feel like something messed up for people to masturbate to. And neither does it feel like it's done by people who do hentai for living. I have a feeling like it was made by a choice, I think the author of the video under which we're commenting made similar point, but maybe I'm misrememebering things.
Oh great , nice take. I felt guilty, some scenes were really horny for me, I turned off my brain for those moments.
Nothing hits harder when you re-read the whole thing while on post nut clarity mode.
Maybe we are just new, first time seeing hentai with great story telling. Thanks for the update ☺️
God you explaining each "turn" and "condition" is like watching a 20 count car crash in slow motion with the force of going 120MPH. And all the occupants are your friends and family. With you on the sidewalk. On your birthday. Then you get left with all the fee's. Great narrating man ;-; 👍
Lmfao I'm glad I could ruin your day 👍
@Pointless Rat Race Oh god I don't want to watch it anymore
Don’t forget every single pet you’ve ever had magically resurrected right next to you
The accuracy
Scum of the earth appearing five times made me literally drop my stomach.
After reading Metamorphosis a huge take away I had wasn't how Saki should have been vulnerable and put herself out there, it reminds me of my own story to some degree. I just wanted to be a kind person. A loving person. And I was forced into a lot of things because I never really had a chance to develop my voice and there's a lot of messed up people out there. It's true, I thought I was lesser, I thought I was boring, but that started somewhere. Somewhere at home. She was just a kid too. Looking for acceptance isn't wrong, trying to find your crowd isn't wrong. Someone took advantage of her trying to figure herself out, and it kept happening again and again. She was just young and being gaslit and forced until it was too late. I see the girl with the glasses in the mirror, and I hate how I can never go back to being that kind selfless girl anymore. I don't blame myself. I don't blame Saki. I thankfully didn't get as deep into the same issues as Saki, I never sold myself... but I have a lot of issues with PTSD. I still am just sort of waiting to not be here anymore because I just feel so broken... I hope more people look at this story and see the circumstances around her as the problem.
Great video by the way, I like how you explained with MAGIC cards. Ugh I need to go watch some fluff or something.
This was quite sad, are you doing better now?
I really relate to your story
There's a difference between being nice and kind and being trustful, always be the first two, never be the latter.
How're you doing now?wanna talk abt it all?
I relate a lot to this. I still try to convince myself that the people who hurt me aren't my friends and I need to find better
Never in my life did I expect I would be sitting in my room watching half an hour of a guy explaining the darkest hentai I've ever read in Magic the Gathering terms at 3:02 am
Fun fact: There's a page drawn by the artist where Saki comes into a room, blonde and tan, to film the story of Emergence. She comments on how she hasn't had her hair black in a long time, having to dye it for the part. She's shown being instructed on how to snort the fake cocaine they were using for the production, and being checked on when she coughs from doing it wrong. She's being complimented on her, ahem, "happy adult fun time" facial expression. The Josuke ending is great of course, a heartwarming and inspiring refutation of all the cruelty that the story put her through, someone coming into her life for just a moment to show her that her kind heart is not misplaced and saving her from the pain she'd endured for so long. But I think that the "film" scene I just described is a bit more impactful to me, purely because it was drawn by the artist themselves. As if they were as horrified by what they had created as everyone else was, and so they decided to add a framing device to try to soften the blow. It feels like a sort of micro-redemption. I'm probably overthinking the intentions of the artist, I don't doubt that for a moment. It would've been better for everyone if the story had never been written of course, but I take comfort in the knowledge that it was, in the end, just a story. In-universe and out. Let's all do our best to make sure it *stays* as just a story. Be kind to people.
I'm sorry bro but thats cope
> It would've been better for everyone if the story had never been written of course
i think its actually a really important story. it shows what addiction and naivety can lead to and how damaging it is. it serves as a warning
...wow, can't believe I want to write a fix-it au for a hentai manga now.
She deserves that
josuke ending: am i a joke to you?
I'm getting confused here fr fr, I know 90% people who comment are don't know what's the real ending of the manga and one of those is this creator of the video. Or am I wrong?
I'm currently writing an isekai series where she ends up in another life and tries to protect others from much of the stuff she was subjected to. Her failure to save EVERYONE becomes a major traumatic obstacle in her new journey and plays on her own feelings of not being good enough.
there are actually some really good ones lol
using the magic analogy was brilliant and hilarious love your stuff man
TH-cam can't stop me from talking about hentai, I'll find away around their rules. Thank you lol
I had a similar experience as saki, parents that say that loved you but never will even tho you wanted them to love you, an abusive ex that used me and sexually assaulted me to lose my virgnity and using drugs, after the break up I was drunk so that I can cope the fact it was all my fault and that I ruined everything. Turned out that it was not, there was a part of me who started seeing the things as it was and I was out of touch of reality because a person used, abused and assaulted me and I was weak.
I am now trying to recover and heal from this abuse, my friends and mutuals are on my side and I'm very grateful of them. It's gonna be hard but I can't do nothing except being optimistic. I clicked this video because i read years ago and it was fucked up so I wanted to know the story again and I've never felt so close to Saki as I was years ago. I wish what happened to me and Saki should never happen to anyone alse.
I hope you can find the happiness and comfort you deserve
i think the worst part about this is at the end of the day, _no one loved saki._ she didn't even love _herself._
i thought that ending with her child was the actual ending of her life but watching the ending from this vid made me realize.....nahhh i was happy a few minutes ago wtf man
You're welcome :)
I just started watching this and I feel as though im in for one of the wildest rides of my life.
This. This is in fact a wild ride so far.
Update: It was it was indeed a wild ride, and I really love the ingenuity in how you bypassed TH-cam guidelines but just thinking about how long that must have taken makes my soul leave my body so all the kudos to you.
@@Danny-fy9it Pour one out for my poor outdated CPU trying to render that shit
Same
I feel like it's both a trauma fetish but also a story about hwo women in general are treated. The author drew her sexualized in every single panel when they didn't have to so it's obvious it was made to appeal to horny ppl, it's that simple- but I wonder if the author wanted more? Would reel in ppl with the smex but then show them the true horrors of womanhood.
no fr
Hentai is made to appeal to horny people. Hot take
And no, no man gives a shit about "the horror of womanhood". Its just a fetish material
This has always been interesting to me cos the author seems fully aware of what they are doing and what the implications of what happens to Saki are. And while it is sexualized due to being a Hentai, I cant help but wonder if its less of a fetish and more of the author taking a conventional and known medium to tell a story about the common tropes of loss of innocence, r*pe, manipulation etc that Hentai seems to be filled with and how they would realistically impact a real person. Usually, hentai readers seek out those tropes as an actual source of sexual gratification but in this doujin sex becomes less gratifying and way more disgusting, like, I cant see a normal person j*cking off to it. Maybe it is more of a meta-commentary cos idk if the story would have been as shocking if you remove all the sexualisation from it.
Or maybe its just a fetish like you say lmao.
It's a fucking hentai that fucking thing are you talking about? And it is the style of the artist always makes them whether they are men or women.
@@BuglordSupreme As someone who's already disgusted by sex in general, this was a very painful ride.
As someone who reads a lot of hentai because I love to study some artists, this was kind of a treat. The art is amazing.
I remember reading this. I first heard about it and thought “it can’t be THAT bad.” But curiosity took me in, I was disgusted upon reading it at first. However, morbid curiosity took over and I HAD to see how it all ended. Mainly because I felt bad for her and I was once that person who just- wanted to fit in. Have that acceptance and even know I struggle with some of the same personal issues as Saki. I went from disgusted, sad, angry, worried and going through a lot more emotions. I GENUINELY though the moment with her daughter mean someone DID call for help. That one of those horrid people that beat her at the end realized what they did and called for help. Or that maybe the man called for help/ someone to at least move her away, thus seeing her condition and calling for help. When the glasses appeared I broke down sobbing.
Even in this video I wanted to cry again.
I’ve read a few hentai before, some stuff I could tell was shock value. But it didn’t read like a normal hentai to me. There was NO ENJOYMENT. It felt gross and wrong the entire way.
As much as I want to believe other endings, the og one sticks and I know it’s the true ending.
It is unfortunately the real ending by my belief
thank you for the level of kindness and respect you show to saki, even though it's a fictional character in a fictional story. for a myriad of reasons, when i read through this manga, i genuinely couldn't finish it, and had to ask my husband to finish it for me to tell me what happened. it was just... too triggering in a lot of ways and too much for me. i've been binging your videos a lot lately, and not to get *parasocial* about it, but i think you're a very good person, and i'm glad there are more people like you in the world.
All TH-camrs are scum, the trick is to make people think you aren't! Lol thank you, it wouldn't sit right with me to treat Saki any other way. Some might say she's the victim of her own bad decisions, but those decisions were made out of a lack of experience and guided by ill faith actors. So I don't think that's a fair interpretation at all. We could all stand to be a little more like Saki I think
@@CaptainMack there are so good ones
I'm a guy and I had to stop reading. But it was just eating away at me so I had to finish it a jesus christ...
Honestly, I think this 1 piece of literature made me like 10x times more empathetic, especially towards women and what they could go/are going through.
@@CaptainMack I wish people could treat me as well as they treat saki,saki is fictional .
I'm real,, sometimes it doesnt make sense to me
@@random_teengirl no you dont.
Besides you can still stand out, while being yourself.
19:16 : Pointing out at this moment, the dude there tells her she had more value than now back in his first time (He was her first "client"), and he starts telling her she looks way less innocent than before, and she looks like she's just brainwashed by his "boyfriend", which possibly marks the beginning of Saki regretting her past self.
I think the author could have exploited more this state of regretting her life choices to rip even more the guts of us all, poor readers, but heh, it's not like it wasn't already the most disturbing story I ever read by extremely far...
I think this is a really important story to be told. It's so easy to see drugged up, strung out, homeless people and think "they're not like me, that could never happen to me" - but the reality is, they *are* the same, they're humans who went through things. I think Saki at the beginning of the story is very relatable. And every decision she makes, makes sense in the moment she's in with what is happening around her. I hope people take from this story empathy for people like Saki, people who've been beaten down by life and are just doing what they can to survive.
Honestly what is most haunting about this story is that it happens in real life. Every day. It hurts.
I would be hard pressed to say a lot of the storytelling in emergence is objectively good. However I believed the topics depicted in this story are important ones and this is the only story I found that talks about this stuff in any sort of good faith. I am very appreciative of you explaining the story in the way you did. I think it is hard to do what you did even talking about this very taboo subject.
Thank you my friend. I also think there's a very good albeit tragic story here and I really wanted to show that
i read this a few years back, it still honestly haunts me. thank u for saving some people's mental health
Just doing the lord's work 🙏
I get damn vetitnam flashbacks from that first image man
This feels like the most perfect tragedy. I got sick in the stomach, I was sad, heartbroken, outraged at all these people, hoping she would be all right. But the world was a cruel place for a kind heart with poor choices desperately looking for love
The hardest part about all of this isn’t just reading this… it’s realizing there are so many people, whom are living this horror daily.
Oh, an incredibly upsetting story!
Using Magic to explain it was a stroke of genius. And I say that as somebody who was a teenager when Magic first came out and never really got it.
Haha thank you I'm glad it worked for you
honestly, i feel like the manga "Juujika no Rokunin" is a direct answer to emergence. In a world just as cruel, what is there to do? what options are there really? the answer? *kill. them. all.*
The answer to suffering is to cause more suffering?
@@UwUImShioWhy not
@@UwUImShio listen not all of us can be thorfinn
@@ValeriePersonalReal there's no reason both answers can't be correct, logically thorfinns answer is the correct one, but when faced with such deep evil there's no other option but to become unreasonable
Juujika no rokunin is one of the most compelling revenge mangas
One of the heartbreaking part about this whole story was the fact that this could happen to anyone. It's sad that this is the case because it meant that not everyone was able to get out of that state and that terrible part of their lives. Just thinking about how this happened to such a young girl is already painful but it gets worse knowing that a lot of young girls have this happen to them.
No, not anyone. Just someone with garbage parents. If her parents had done their jobs at any point none of this shit would have happened.
While this entire series is explicit in nature, I've always thought of it as an actual manga with explicit activities strewn throughout it than an explicit series meant for people to get their kicks out of. This whole series devastated me when I first read it and the fact that the creator went back and made a "haha hey guys it's all just a movie nobody is actually hurt!" ending kinda goes to show just how brutal this was. There's a lot of fucked up stuff out there in terms of NSFW, from Asanagi's more extreme works to the guro and snuff categories that are seemingly only there for the most depraved, but 177013 really, really REALLY sticks out due to how hard the impact hit. A third impact, if you will.
Thank you for your kind commentary on Saki, she got taken advantage of 😔
She deserved better *holding back tears*
As a woman I really love Emergence. The art is beautiful and the scenes are portrayed in the same way most H do. Saki puts up the same futile resistance as the vast majority of the H girls, resistance that the readers freely ignore bc they O
Saki Os in most scenes, and yet, the autor refuse to let the readers enjoy the scenes. Shindo L make his readers uncomfortably aware that they are passive witnesses of Saki's tragedy. A tragedy far to common in H plots, Corn plots, and real life
I think that's what breaks people the most, the fact that you have a big need to do something, anything, to help her out; to see her grow and be happy. But you can't, there's nothing you can do. You, like many other times, put yourself in a position in which you now see the girl being treated as an object.
But this is not for your satisfaction, not like beforehand, this is not that powerful warrior being attacked by a tentacle monster, an orc, a dragon. This is not that woman who has a long history of being the strongest creature out there, being subjected and humiliated to cater to your desire to feel strong; as you can subject this force of nature with the flip of a page.
This is a little girl. This is a fragile creature. This is all that's left when power is out the window. And you're not allowed to feel good about how powerful you now are.
ITS NOT TIKTOK YOU CAN SAY HENTAI SEX AND PORN GOOD LORD
yea when i ehard the plot it jsut sounded like an average shindoL doujin but drawn out to its logical conclusion
@@Natoursofcourse For the life of me I couldn't figure out what the capital letters stood for hahaha
i honestly believe this should be every girl's first hentai
I didn’t realize it was gonna be psychological horror not hentai. Well I’m truly horrified.
The josuke ending and the movie ending helped the pain of reading it but the canon true ending of it still haunts me.
What are those? I need them.
@Boglárka Szabó The josuke ending is the ending where josuke from Jojo bizarre adventure sets time backward, and the movie ending was actually one the artist made and it was just that the entire thing was just a movie and the girl was an actress
So i understand the movie ending but can you give me a little more detail about the first one. Sorry, any plot that messes with the continuity of time tends to be a bit hard for me to comprehend.
@Boglárka Szabó so the first one was fanmade, and it revolves around a character from a popular anime jojos bizarre adventure and specifically a character in that anime has the ability to affect time becuase of some stand ability (I'm not too familiar with jojo so sorry) but that character essentially breaks into the emergence timeline to save the girl and resets time so she can start over
@@bunniigutz438 thank you, it's much clearer now.
That scream felt real, and was a completely appropriate response
Extremely real
I can feel the depression and PTSD through the screen
I don't even know magic the gathering but damn thats such a unique way of retelling the depressing story
dude, this was the heaviest game of magic...I've ever witnessed. Phenomenal job with this one.
Thanks dawg
Moral of the story: Don’t take those GODDAMN glasses off
I know that this comment is a joke but that's a pretty bad message to take away because all women can be victims regardless of their perceived attractiveness.
Evangelion being the first anime that I watched and this being the first hmanga that I read, both being binged at about 2 AM, truly has formed me as a person.
therapy
@@Uwhwvwgwh Yes
U good bro?
Same that was the first and only Hent manga that i read
Are you ok???
Imagine stumbling upon this manga on accident and not knowing what you’re getting yourself into…
The pain
Worst part of reading this is i had friends from high school who quite... had got it going on like saki. The only difference is that they are alive with their children. I don't know about the fathers of these children. I remember her calling me that it happened to her, but she had no choice. It was heavy to take in, but it was too late for me to even do anything. The other girl was it was her choice, but it kept getting worse for her.
Fuck, I've tried to forget this story, I couldn't believe it when I read it. Props to you to make an introspective dive into this madness. Stronger human being than me for sure. Love your content!
You can never forget this lol, it will haunt us forever
The reason this hits home for me so deeply is becuase i almost became like her.
The worst part of Emergence is that it's extremely possible for this to happen to somebody
i’m sorry. i’m glad you didn’t.
I think that's what makes this story even sadder, its a realistic struggle and it absolutely breaks my heart
I am sorry to hear that. I think I speak for all of us when I say that I am glad you didn't go down that path.
I hope you're fine now and yeah there will always be someone who cares for you , so don't hesitate to reach for help from them
And a lot of love from the Netizens❤❤❤
You know what's the worst thing about this manga? That all of this can happen to someone and has to some extent.
i think by definition if a hentai fails at getting you in the mood and instead kills your mood it by definition isn't a hentai
You say that... but we all know some sick bastard got off to this
I found you after watching your absolutely IMMACULATE CSM video, and I just gotta say you deserve way more subscribers. Your production, scripting, humor, etc. is off the chain. Keep it up and I promise you’ll reap the rewards in the future, especially with this much passion behind it! Btw, I know it probably would have ruined the tone but this video really could have used your happy outro music 😂 It’s sort of like drinking a chaser after downing a shot of depression-flavored Everclear.
Lol I thought about adding it over the fire but it felt more poignant without it. Thank you my guy
@@CaptainMack Nah dawg you definitely made the right call lol, like you said it was way more in line with the tone from the rest of the essay; the ending really stuck the landing so to speak. 👌
I was wondering if you were gonna burn the book. I’m glad you did. I’m sure hentai is more than non-con but most of the hentai I’ve seen is more violent than healthy hanky panky acts. As well as I feel this manga punishes her because she wanted to be “more feminine” she wanted to dress better and be more social.
Vanilla is the term for consensual and soft core hentai. You might like Seika Jogakuin kounin sao ojisan, it's about a man who becomes a gigolo for an all girl academy to pay off a money debt his old friend caused. It's consensual, but he does feel embarrassed about having to keep it a secret. The art is on another level, it's so pretty especially the hair and eyes, also it's one of the first x anime I've seen that knows what hips actually look like.
This is the kind of conversation I want to see in my comments
@@SairinEarthsea I might sound harsh here but- Consent is NOT vanilla. If it wasn't consensual it wasn't sex at all. And hard-core shouldn't always be hard to read. It always made me wonder why does so much porn include or even rely on the suffering of people, particularly people in discriminated against groups. Imagine being one of those people who is always the victim, trying to look for some hard-core porn to REALLY get down to, clicking on a random video and then seeing a video that can only be described as one-sided, rape, violent, torture porn, that could ONLY be hot to the aggressor (Thats the extreme in this case, but even the extreme is super common). Its even worse when it seems the media seems to ignore the violence and act like its just completely normal, business as usual. It hurts. It makes you feel SO unsafe, SO violated. Intersex people, trans people, AFAB people, disabled people, POC, etc, etc. Its...Just scary. It is SO easy to have heavy, or kinky, or violent (Love some sado/masochism) shit that could be hot to either party, is entirely consensual and doesn't censor itself. But as far as I know, its just not there...
TLDR: Consent isn't vanilla, its not sex without consent, hard-core shouldn't always be disturbing, the kinky shit is never realistic to real healthy kinky shit, and why is so much hentai an actual hate crime SOBS
@@galaxyjam3742 Meanwhile you do have people who go to that dark, disgusting stuff for a sense of catharsis without necessarily putting themselves or others in danger. It's how I found Metamorphosis initially and I've been pleasantly surprised to find some thoughtful analysis on this hentai that I remember off and on every now and then.
I want to write a manga au which begins with the panel of her crying to her mom, and the story continues with her opening up to her mother about the events so far. Her mother, holds back her tears and reaffirms her support to Saki as she realised that her parenting was at fault. She then teaches Saki the importance of discerning kindness and naive thinking, and asks her to think about what she wants deep down. They spend the night together and while Saki is asleep, she cries heavily and this sharpens Saki's resolve to change. When she is confronted by the boys for the picture, she decides to move schools rather than please her classmates. She moves to a new city where she finds a junior who is facing a similar issue, and the story is how they arrive at a proper solution.
It can be a slice of life story where she has supportive classmates, a badass best friend and the naive junior who she hangs out with.
Maybe thats where the hentai bit comes in? She could get together with the friend :) Or not, maybe they could build a deep trusting relationship. Either way, great AU bro.
@@galaxyjam3742 tbf this story deviates after the escort job so depending on the medium, we could either show the two scenes or just outright censor those by speaking about it. The former would be like a hentai with deep dive on effects of hentai events on a girl's life and the latter would be an anime with sensitive topics.
I think stories like these matter so much because I think they’re real and should be told but it also makes me realize how much I take my life as is for granted. It makes me extremely saddened that stuff like this happens. What I’m saying is, count your blessings, and maybe even hug a loved one too when you get the chance.
Gota praise the Magic analogy here. Reall skillful in avainding the nasty bits.
Also ty. I am now crying all over again 😢
Anytime brother
I've been avoid any review of this "art" for a long time and said to myself that I'll get the courage to read it one day on my own. But every time I about to read it I asked myself "Would I be better off just not doing it? Is it even worth the risk?".
But now I'll just gonna grit my teeth and push through. Maybe I will be worse of than before but maybe afterward I can learn something from it or atleast from your effort. So in the next few days I will be reading it little by little and see what the result will be. Best of luck
Don't be afraid to reach out to others for help through this tough time
It's not worth it bruh
Update: so iImay have just start reading and did not put it down until finished.
Here my first impression. The climax is not actually that bad but it might be due to what I have heard of it or just because I have read too mich mess up stuff without being that invest in the story.
Now I will be watching the vids and reread it again to see if anything changed. Best of luck...
Oh god, it's been 7 months and I totally forgot what to continue this. Read it a few more times and my final verdict is: don't waste your life with this. It is not worth a full read or multiple to see all joy and happiness you have drain from you. Just from this video appearing on my feed gave me chills.
@@yametekudastop3419 rip to your mental health
The author could have ended the story at the dream and everything would have been fine, but NO, he HAD to make that last panel to really, completely, and utterly destroy our emotional and mental state.
Not me drawing poorly made art in ms paint of an adult Saki and her daughter being cute and happy and wholesome together to cope with whatever the shit I just witnessed
i remember reading this a while ago then going back couple months later to make sure the whole thing wasn’t a weird nightmare
I do not blame you
So I read this insanely young, I had no business reading this tbh. In my naivity, I thought saki lived at the end this entire time. That somehow she managed to get her happily ever after and someone saved her. Now I gotta cope with the reality she and her baby died like a dog in the bathroom alone and scared.
Even more ironic when I almost ended up like saki but managed to get out cause ONE person was there for me. It makes me so sad knowing how one person can change your life.
I cant believe i just learned some Magic the Gathering basics from a video essay about hentai.
Fr tho, i felt myself shaking several times through the video. Ive heard about this manga before but never actually read it. I just cant bring myself to do it. The story is beyond sad, and it depresses me to think about happened to Saki. Thank you for this video, and how kind you were to Saki as a character
I really appreciate the graphic used for the stronger addiction card and the description 19:26 _Its only "too long" until you catch up_ it made me laugh and was the only thing that kept me from crying throughout the video.
It's also just all to true, lol.
Mack, let me just preface this by saying that I love all of your videos. That being said, I can’t watch this one. I cannot experience this story again. I’m not strong enough.
It's okay to be a beta male, don't worry about it 👍
"try not to fall in love with your abuser challenge [impossible]"
i felt personally attacked
It's too bad Josuke fights the stand user responsible for this atrocity off screen, but I'm satisfied with seeing him save her.
Damn, I ended up almost crying at the end of the video. This story is so sad, and this video is very well made, you sir have earned my subscription.
Edit: watching this again and it still holds up and hits hard.
Stick with the video, reading the manga was a depressing hell far worse than this. At least with this video, you have jokes to occasionally break the tension and seeing everything through the lense of MTG. The manga, you see every graphic detail, and none of it is enjoyable in the slightest.
So I didn't know what Emergence was before I started watching this video and now I'm sad.
You're welcome 👍
I finally got around to reading it and it made feel really awful to where it almost brought me down to tears🥺🥺😞😞😢😢
This is SAD really she was totally doomed from the start.
legit started crying at the end when you screamed i dunno it released smth i had held onto for very long
I felt the same when I did it
Bro actually had the paperback copy, thats wild. Gotta respect the commitment
I don't anymore...
@@CaptainMack I am person who enjoys books and respects books so much. On that note,
Thank you for
burning the
Paperback
I have a hard time believing those classmates are the same ones that tried to reach out to Saki…
But jeez, this is a hentai? I know people get off to some messed up stuff, but whoever gets off to this is a monster!
A large part of me believes the h scenes arent meant to be appealing, as the lingering feeling of "oh my god this is fucked up," stays in the mind the entire time. Seeing those scenes really drives home how horrible everything was for Saki, as unfortunately, it's not something that could be achieved with a 'fade to black.'
@@dianheart2243that was my thoughts too. I don't think the graphic sex was there for to turn people on, I think it was to make people sympathize with saki more. She went through some horrific gross shit and we got to see that first hand. Still seems a bit superfluous tho tbh. Like jeez.
Being explained this in M:TG terms was way more bearable then how some others dodge demonetization.
as someone who read emergence, your analogy of it was perfect in all honesty, and the message at the end was one i thought was accurate to the original story. i've had this idea for a fan fic, one about saki managing to survive and how she's been improving, however i don't know if i could pull off a story like that as i don't see myself capable of writing a fake documentary (for context, the fanfic makes the og manga a kinda underground movie that gained traction on a piracy/archive site, and as nothing was known about it the main character/narrator would go through and try and find out where everyone is now. basically saki survived, her baby didn't, and saki tried to improve after the loss of her baby (as she saw it as a wake up call))
This channel is criminally underrated
I don't think any manga has ever made me want to literally shed my skin like this one
I had to give a like, what it must’ve taken to read that entire story holy shit. My heart goes out to ya.
Thank you my friend