SO cool to see competition + innovation in this space. I'm a filter coffee only guy right now and this is really tempting me to finally pull the trigger on a flair 58 + profiler
Great video! I just received my DREO from Kickstarter a few days ago and am just learning my way around it. Yours is the most comprehensive review/tutorial I have seen so far. You just earned a new subscriber. 😊
I've upgraded from Nanofoamer Lithium to the Pro Gen 2 just before I found out about the DREO. I was a little upset thinking about overpaying but the more reviews came out, the better my mood got. I find the DREO suitable for those folks not willing to pay Nanofoamer price but still get the milk heated and textured automatically. I will definitely recommend it as a budget friendly alternative to the Pro Gen2. I 100% dig the fact that the Nanofoamer has zero issues with starting milk temperature, while the microfoam dial in took no more than a couple of tries. All flow controllers are super straight forward and 200g of milk done in 2 minutes straight from the fridge is perfect. I still find the cleanup not to be the best experience, but I quickly got used to it. A quick scrub with the included brush will dissolve the small milk patch in a few seconds.
Feeling very validated in my decision to back this on KS in the final few days, hopefully they start shipping to the UK soon. Thanks for the thorough review!
Been using mine for a week and really didn't have any issue at all with foam and latte art. The taste and texture is incredible. For the price and ease of use, this thing gets high marks from me. I currently use the Cafelat Robot manual espresso machine with the Dreo and have been getting the same if not better quality than from cafes I've visited in the past.
The reason why this device can beat the San Remo (or any machine with a steam wand) in terms of mouthfeel is one word: water. Steaming adds water to the milk. The end result is lower in fat than the Drea or any frother, that adds no water into the milk. Frothed microfoam will potentially feel a little creamier due to this fact alone. However, the speed of steaming milk, and the incorporation of hot air into the milk (which breaks down the lactose into glucose and galactose, which are perceptibly sweeter sugars than lactose), are two advantages that can't be beat. For these reasons, steaming is still supreme. To get more mouthfeel and to compensate for the added water into the milk, use a higher fat milk. Most "Barista" Milks are 3.8% fat, the ideal fat percentage for microfoam, in my view.
this is good for home use. just froth the milk while you prepare the espresso. some entry level machines can't do both at the same time. this is truer if using manual machines, as mentioned in the video.
@@haomingli6175Oh absolutely, agreed. No need for an expensive espresso machine. This looks like a great device. Just saying that steam still has 2 major advantages, and I left out the fact that doing multiple drinks in succession really does need a fast steam wand.
Love the yellow lighting added to your set, it goes well with your neon sign. It's a lil thing but it helps your space feel even more unique to you 💛I'm strictly a pourover person and have no interest in diving into the world of espresso, but I still enjoyed watching just because I enjoy your videos. Benki looks like a lovely space and it was so cool to have a barista help test it out. Thanks for including all that latte art pour(n), so satisfying to watch.
Honestly, this would be perfect to have at work. This can run while kids are doing practice problems (also use a handgrinder because it's quieter), I'm only ever making single servings of v60 aeropress or sofi, I don't have access to a microwave while in my room. Think I'm sold.
At work? 😂 Good luck with that... I'll give it three weeks at best before your colleagues either break it, lose the attachments or give up on all the settings and trial by error... Unless you have a barista at your work like in this video! 🙃
@@The_Ubatron My coffee gear lives in my classroom. I'll make a cup for anybody who wants it, but nobody touches my stuff. Well, I suppose I'd be willing to teach someone if they asked.
@@taejaskudva2543 Not the typical workplace then... All power to you! Those students are lucky to have a bonus lesson (unless the subject you teach is coffee 😂)!
Really excited to see more competition in this space. Thank you for testing temperature sensitivity and going over some more of the "faffiness" , as well as giving some ideas on how to start fixing those issues.
This makes me feel so old fashioned with my Bellman 😊 No regrets though. Bellman is cheap, simple, reliable and requires no cleanup. Oh, and it is ready even before I finish prepping my shot, because I preheat water in the same kettle for Flair and for Bellman, simultaneously.
Awesome review. Really happy to see more choices in that space. I've been looking into these types of foamers since I have a Cafelat Robot and also love other drinks. I was looking at either the Breville or the Maestri House since I want an easy to clean, full stainless steal and separate pitcher. If you ever get your hands on those 2, I'd love to see a comparison between the 3. You have the best reviews and I love your humor.
Thank you for that review! I'm using a manual lever (alm kopi from Lance's review), and usually don't drink milk beverages, but a machine like this is something I'm considering buying one day
Just found your channel, Subscribed immediately. I love how detail oriented you got, without becoming clinical. Well done! I will say, I love how you are willing to give up money for the sake of trust, but at the same time it's much easier to find products if you just have a link. If you have a link... this is a business after all, if we buy it why not take the money, it's going to go to someone regardless. Lastly, how much milk can this bad mother trucker hold? XD Had too.
Another fantastic video. My wife was listening in and chuckling in the back ground. Got my tracking info this morning on my kickstarter pledge. Now is it good enough that I can cancel my meticulous milk pledge?
Your vid is entertaining and helpful - as always! 👍 i backed the Dreo 2 month ago and it is meant to be the milky part of a down sizing project with espresso. The other one will be a Robot or a Flair. Not decided yet. Oh, and if you re surprised by the difference between americans and europeans in terms of milk, just ask yourself why there is a drink called Americano? 😜
Love the review and the channel in general. Just a minor one for future videos: A steep learning curve is a metaphor that describes something that is difficult to learn, but there is an initial period of fast learning. It's displayed as a rapid progression with a huge spike at the beginning. A shallow learning curve indicates that it takes a long time to learn the information. It's displayed as a long progression with a slow increase over time. 😊
Decided to go for a Nanofoamer lithium instead of waiting months on the Dreo and it's been great. Been using it for a month now and while the learning curve is high, it's only high if you seek perfection, I was able to make perfectly adequate foam since the first time I turned it on.
I would think we want HOTTER milk-foam for cappuccino or latte, as we are already often too cold on the espresso sitting, and the hot milk helps it out. But not when its 75C....at least when I mess up my timing, and thats often.
I am not able to find a video which explains how your coffee subscription works... for a while I am using Five Farms Malabar monsoon beans which I found the most flavorful in its price range...please share some of your recommendations.
just head over to shop.aramse.coffee/subscription and fill in the details and we'll send you different coffees every 2 ro 4 weeks. It's really simple. The subscription is India only at the moment.
@@DuBstep115 Okay but the thing is I wrote to Dreo and they said that this machine is only available in 110V US version. So I was wondering how he got the machine sourced in India and how did he use it? Like with a step down transformer? And since the machine doesn't sell in India, what about spare parts, service, and repairs? Who should we contact if the machine doesn't run as it is expected to?
@@salmasultana9391 The machine just came out and they are sending kickstart orders now. United States: October 2024 Singapore/Malaysia: October 2024 Canada: November 2024 United Kingdom: November 2024 Australia: November 2024 Europe: December 2024 For the United States and Canada, the BaristaMaker Frother is designed to work with an AC power supply of 120V and a frequency of 60Hz. For the United Kingdom, the BaristaMaker Frother is designed to work with an AC power supply of 230-240V and a frequency of 50Hz. For Europe, the BaristaMaker Frother is designed to work with an AC power supply of 220-240V and a frequency of 50Hz. For Singapore, the BaristaMaker Frother is designed to work with an AC power supply of 220V-240V and a frequency of 50Hz. For Malaysia and Australia, the BaristaMaker Frother is designed to work with an AC power supply of 230-240V and a frequency of 50Hz.
Compared to what? If you have dual boiler or HX then yes and why are you buying this? If you have flair without steam or any single boiler machine like Gaggia classic pro its like 2,5mins to heat the steam, then steam your milk and then refill the boiler.
@@DuBstep115 it’s about timing, you don’t want to let your espresso sit for this long, I wonder if you could start with the milk at the same time you start puck preparation. But even then making more than one drink would be a pain. Yes I have an HX machine, and the reason for choosing it was because at the time there weren’t any good milk steaming options for the flair. There is a company that now makes a stand alone milk steaming wand with a small electric boiler, that might be a better option.
Same @brentroman. I had an 80% good experience with the original pro for 10 months until I used a too fresh kitchen sponge that took off some coating. I was a bit annoyed to get a replacement v2 jug but the cleanup is sooooo much better than the v1. Just a regular cloth gets you back to clean in a single wipe this time.
@@aramse On single boiler its pretty much the same. You pull the shot, hit steam, wait 1-1,5mins, steam for 30 seconds then refill the boiler. I have profitec go and I am buying this because I want my milk to be ready when I have pulled the shot.
The design look like something that went out of fashion more than 20 years ago… But being able to toss top in dishwasher is certainly a plus and the other ability dos make it more useful… the not change temp is a bummer
Honestly if you time it right you can have your milk and shot ready at the same time. Weighing beans, grinding, puck prep and then pulling your shot will overlap most if not all of that time right?
"Another Aramse video?" *breaks left mouse button*
really?
@@djispro4272 Yes, really. I find your lack of faith (in Aramse)... disturbing.
Deep review on DREO. Sometimes, it is probably an revolution to this area. At least, my steam wand is hard for 30 cups of latte art.
SO cool to see competition + innovation in this space. I'm a filter coffee only guy right now and this is really tempting me to finally pull the trigger on a flair 58 + profiler
Great video! I just received my DREO from Kickstarter a few days ago and am just learning my way around it. Yours is the most comprehensive review/tutorial I have seen so far. You just earned a new subscriber. 😊
“Jerk it off to get micro-foam” 😂
Going all in on the sexed up review language with that, "latte art pr0n" and even down to the not so subtle humble brag of "freakishly large hands"
I've upgraded from Nanofoamer Lithium to the Pro Gen 2 just before I found out about the DREO.
I was a little upset thinking about overpaying but the more reviews came out, the better my mood got.
I find the DREO suitable for those folks not willing to pay Nanofoamer price but still get the milk heated and textured automatically.
I will definitely recommend it as a budget friendly alternative to the Pro Gen2.
I 100% dig the fact that the Nanofoamer has zero issues with starting milk temperature, while the microfoam dial in took no more than a couple of tries. All flow controllers are super straight forward and 200g of milk done in 2 minutes straight from the fridge is perfect.
I still find the cleanup not to be the best experience, but I quickly got used to it. A quick scrub with the included brush will dissolve the small milk patch in a few seconds.
Feeling very validated in my decision to back this on KS in the final few days, hopefully they start shipping to the UK soon. Thanks for the thorough review!
Been using mine for a week and really didn't have any issue at all with foam and latte art. The taste and texture is incredible. For the price and ease of use, this thing gets high marks from me. I currently use the Cafelat Robot manual espresso machine with the Dreo and have been getting the same if not better quality than from cafes I've visited in the past.
The reason why this device can beat the San Remo (or any machine with a steam wand) in terms of mouthfeel is one word: water. Steaming adds water to the milk. The end result is lower in fat than the Drea or any frother, that adds no water into the milk. Frothed microfoam will potentially feel a little creamier due to this fact alone. However, the speed of steaming milk, and the incorporation of hot air into the milk (which breaks down the lactose into glucose and galactose, which are perceptibly sweeter sugars than lactose), are two advantages that can't be beat. For these reasons, steaming is still supreme. To get more mouthfeel and to compensate for the added water into the milk, use a higher fat milk. Most "Barista" Milks are 3.8% fat, the ideal fat percentage for microfoam, in my view.
this is good for home use. just froth the milk while you prepare the espresso. some entry level machines can't do both at the same time. this is truer if using manual machines, as mentioned in the video.
Yup I mention the dilution part towards the end of the video.
@@haomingli6175Oh absolutely, agreed. No need for an expensive espresso machine. This looks like a great device. Just saying that steam still has 2 major advantages, and I left out the fact that doing multiple drinks in succession really does need a fast steam wand.
Love the yellow lighting added to your set, it goes well with your neon sign. It's a lil thing but it helps your space feel even more unique to you 💛I'm strictly a pourover person and have no interest in diving into the world of espresso, but I still enjoyed watching just because I enjoy your videos. Benki looks like a lovely space and it was so cool to have a barista help test it out. Thanks for including all that latte art pour(n), so satisfying to watch.
Honestly, this would be perfect to have at work. This can run while kids are doing practice problems (also use a handgrinder because it's quieter), I'm only ever making single servings of v60 aeropress or sofi, I don't have access to a microwave while in my room. Think I'm sold.
At work? 😂 Good luck with that... I'll give it three weeks at best before your colleagues either break it, lose the attachments or give up on all the settings and trial by error... Unless you have a barista at your work like in this video! 🙃
@@The_Ubatron My coffee gear lives in my classroom. I'll make a cup for anybody who wants it, but nobody touches my stuff. Well, I suppose I'd be willing to teach someone if they asked.
@@taejaskudva2543 Not the typical workplace then... All power to you! Those students are lucky to have a bonus lesson (unless the subject you teach is coffee 😂)!
Really excited to see more competition in this space. Thank you for testing temperature sensitivity and going over some more of the "faffiness" , as well as giving some ideas on how to start fixing those issues.
This makes me feel so old fashioned with my Bellman 😊
No regrets though. Bellman is cheap, simple, reliable and requires no cleanup.
Oh, and it is ready even before I finish prepping my shot, because I preheat water in the same kettle for Flair and for Bellman, simultaneously.
i love my dreo. been using for the last 2 weeks... kickstarter gang
thank u bro I was looking to get this but wanted a honest review first. A lot of the other reviewers seemed biased
Awesome review. Really happy to see more choices in that space. I've been looking into these types of foamers since I have a Cafelat Robot and also love other drinks. I was looking at either the Breville or the Maestri House since I want an easy to clean, full stainless steal and separate pitcher. If you ever get your hands on those 2, I'd love to see a comparison between the 3. You have the best reviews and I love your humor.
Thank you for that review! I'm using a manual lever (alm kopi from Lance's review), and usually don't drink milk beverages, but a machine like this is something I'm considering buying one day
Just found your channel, Subscribed immediately. I love how detail oriented you got, without becoming clinical. Well done! I will say, I love how you are willing to give up money for the sake of trust, but at the same time it's much easier to find products if you just have a link. If you have a link... this is a business after all, if we buy it why not take the money, it's going to go to someone regardless.
Lastly, how much milk can this bad mother trucker hold?
XD Had too.
Another fantastic video. My wife was listening in and chuckling in the back ground. Got my tracking info this morning on my kickstarter pledge. Now is it good enough that I can cancel my meticulous milk pledge?
Another great video! I really, really enjoy your content. Thanks!
Thank you so much!
You got my like and subscribe! As a flair pro 2 user I’m considering getting one of these… maybe for Christmas haha
Regards, J
seems pretty perfect for the price
Can't get over the part where you said 3 hours instead of 3 minutes in the beginning 😅
Definitely feels like 3 hours when you compare to a commercial espresso machine.
Like your humor 😂 😅
Your vid is entertaining and helpful - as always! 👍 i backed the Dreo 2 month ago and it is meant to be the milky part of a down sizing project with espresso. The other one will be a Robot or a Flair. Not decided yet. Oh, and if you re surprised by the difference between americans and europeans in terms of milk, just ask yourself why there is a drink called Americano? 😜
Love the review and the channel in general. Just a minor one for future videos:
A steep learning curve is a metaphor that describes something that is difficult to learn, but there is an initial period of fast learning. It's displayed as a rapid progression with a huge spike at the beginning.
A shallow learning curve indicates that it takes a long time to learn the information. It's displayed as a long progression with a slow increase over time. 😊
Decided to go for a Nanofoamer lithium instead of waiting months on the Dreo and it's been great. Been using it for a month now and while the learning curve is high, it's only high if you seek perfection, I was able to make perfectly adequate foam since the first time I turned it on.
Great choice. Love the Lithium.
@@aramse You were a part of the reason I bought it, great review. Keep up the good work 💪
These things are making Robot and Flair a different proposition
I would think we want HOTTER milk-foam for cappuccino or latte, as we are already often too cold on the espresso sitting, and the hot milk helps it out. But not when its 75C....at least when I mess up my timing, and thats often.
Milkiest Dreams 🤪....
I am not able to find a video which explains how your coffee subscription works... for a while I am using Five Farms Malabar monsoon beans which I found the most flavorful in its price range...please share some of your recommendations.
just head over to shop.aramse.coffee/subscription and fill in the details and we'll send you different coffees every 2 ro 4 weeks. It's really simple. The subscription is India only at the moment.
The limited capacity killed it for me. When I’m heating milk for things like a hot chocolate, I need more capacity.
Finally a milk frother for people who wear gloves in gym
Hello, how did you get this machine in India? Is it 110 V or 220 V? Please let me know.
All of europe uses 230v 50hz since 2003, so does India. There is no more 220v except in countries like zimbabwe
@@DuBstep115 Okay but the thing is I wrote to Dreo and they said that this machine is only available in 110V US version. So I was wondering how he got the machine sourced in India and how did he use it? Like with a step down transformer? And since the machine doesn't sell in India, what about spare parts, service, and repairs? Who should we contact if the machine doesn't run as it is expected to?
@@salmasultana9391 The machine just came out and they are sending kickstart orders now.
United States: October 2024
Singapore/Malaysia: October 2024
Canada: November 2024
United Kingdom: November 2024
Australia: November 2024
Europe: December 2024
For the United States and Canada, the BaristaMaker Frother is designed to work with an AC power supply of 120V and a frequency of 60Hz.
For the United Kingdom, the BaristaMaker Frother is designed to work with an AC power supply of 230-240V and a frequency of 50Hz.
For Europe, the BaristaMaker Frother is designed to work with an AC power supply of 220-240V and a frequency of 50Hz.
For Singapore, the BaristaMaker Frother is designed to work with an AC power supply of 220V-240V and a frequency of 50Hz.
For Malaysia and Australia, the BaristaMaker Frother is designed to work with an AC power supply of 230-240V and a frequency of 50Hz.
Ours is 230 and works five here in India. This unit was sent directly from the company to us.
Latte art porn had me 😂... and pls don't call tulip basic art bro, m going nuts just pouring the right heart everytime
Haha I feel you. It can seem really frustrating at times but stick with it and enjoy the process. Soon you'll be calling swans basic.
"Freakishly large hands".... We get what you're implying
Just waiting for EU 230v release
Three and a half minutes seems painfully slow but I guess you could change your workflow to get it to work.
Compared to what? If you have dual boiler or HX then yes and why are you buying this?
If you have flair without steam or any single boiler machine like Gaggia classic pro its like 2,5mins to heat the steam, then steam your milk and then refill the boiler.
@@DuBstep115 it’s about timing, you don’t want to let your espresso sit for this long, I wonder if you could start with the milk at the same time you start puck preparation. But even then making more than one drink would be a pain. Yes I have an HX machine, and the reason for choosing it was because at the time there weren’t any good milk steaming options for the flair. There is a company that now makes a stand alone milk steaming wand with a small electric boiler, that might be a better option.
@@Victor-kh5rh it probably takes me 3 minutes to grind beans, puck prep, pull shot and do some cleaning. They should be ready at the same time
Do you received 110V or 220V?
Mine is 110V 😝
Hey can you please let me know how you got it? How do you get this in India?
Please compare to a retail unit. My message seems to have been autodeleted but DREO really scammed us on this one when it comes to temperatures
How so? What version do you have?
Makes me wish that I didn’t kickstart the original nanofoamer pro. I HATE the UX and cleaning.
My condolences! Nanofoamer pro is a pain. I'm glad I held off that one and this one comes at a right time
I agree. The cleaning is frustrating as hell. I would never buy a frother that doesnt have a separate top made from stainless steel again!
Same @brentroman. I had an 80% good experience with the original pro for 10 months until I used a too fresh kitchen sponge that took off some coating. I was a bit annoyed to get a replacement v2 jug but the cleanup is sooooo much better than the v1. Just a regular cloth gets you back to clean in a single wipe this time.
@@finz11yup
whatttttttt? 3 hours and 30 minutes?
Joke. Feels like 3h30m when compared to steaming on a commercial machine. It’s 3m30s.
@@aramse On single boiler its pretty much the same. You pull the shot, hit steam, wait 1-1,5mins, steam for 30 seconds then refill the boiler.
I have profitec go and I am buying this because I want my milk to be ready when I have pulled the shot.
The design look like something that went out of fashion more than 20 years ago…
But being able to toss top in dishwasher is certainly a plus and the other ability dos make it more useful… the not change temp is a bummer
4:42 ❓
Joke. It’s 3m30s. Feels painfully slow when compared to a commercial machine.
3 minutes 30 blows my mind. That’s an instant fail for me.
Honestly if you time it right you can have your milk and shot ready at the same time. Weighing beans, grinding, puck prep and then pulling your shot will overlap most if not all of that time right?