2024 Lotus Eletre R (905 hp) - POV First Driving Impressions
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I was either thinking this, or a 2013 camry with 117k miles. Tough decisions
At least the volume knob in the camry is working and easy to find, guarantee you 😂
You know same! I was considering this but that used toyota echo with 5 owners is really tempting
Camry will last you longer than this 😂
That was hilarious 😂😂😂😂 Thanks for that. Buy the Camry!
I'd get the Camry, but I'd spring for the 2015 because it looks way better.
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Thanks, glad to hear! We have a lot of fun working together. I’m glad he FINALLY started uploading to his own channel too 👍
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you know its a 2023 car when you spend 3 minutes trying to find the volume controls
Hahahahaha it's true xD
Stupid design choice. Dashboard can be sleek AND practical. It is all about minimal production costs these days, and max profits. SAD>
the fact that this is from the same company that makes the Emira is WILD
Well, the problem is that they aren’t really the same company. The Lotus we all know and love is dead once the Emira goes out of production. This EV Lotus isn’t even really made by them, it’s made by their new Chinese owner Geely. The Lotus name will be in the same situation as MG, no history and just brand name being all that’s left of the original company. They’re what I like to call a “Chinese badge company”.
All you are seeing in the video is a Geely that’s badged as a “Lotus” and nothing more.
RIP real Lotus.
@@faheemabbas3965 yup.
@@faheemabbas3965 Nobody bought Lotuses so they went under
@@faheemabbas3965 I'm sorry but this isn't accurate. The same thing is said about Volvo/Porsche and it's not like MG. MG sort of died and the MG cars are now rebadged cars. Geely isn't doing that. Geely has actually empowered Lotus to become more Lotus. There aren't any more pure sports cars companies that can stay in business. Maserati, Ferrari, Aston Martin, Porsche, are all making "performance luxury crossover SUVs" and here is Lotus doing the same. Lotus, not Geely, is engineering a lot of the feel in the car. Lotus still has their own teams of people working on their cars and while this car may use a platform that an ex-Saab Swedish engineer that now works for Geely has provided for Geely, Lotus has tweaked and tuned it to Lotus standards.
This car is actually the Swedish designed Zeekr001 base, but it has been refined and moved up to a higher Lotus standard. You can see the Zeekr001 framework in it but so much has been redone, that Lotus has placed it in its own category. And this car also shows that the fit and finish and build quality of cars made in China is now Japanese or German quality at the high end. I don't find anyone getting into these Lotus Eletre or Emiras or the Polestar 3 and saying the quality doesn't feel top notch as well as the build solidity.
Geely is not a take-over and "China-fy" type of company, contrary to what many people who haven't done sufficient research on this topic say. It's probably one of the best parent companies in the automobile landscape in that it doesn't take away the heritage of the Euro brands. Of course there is some more cooperation and cost sharing but no more so than there is in Stellantis or the VW Group. This is a Lotus. But it is today's Lotus and not yesterdays. No business is the same as it was in previous decades. There is now more globalism, and more countries involved in manufacturing products.
@faheemabbas3965 The EV argument is stupid. Lotus have to go EV, as will Aston Martin, Jaguar etc. That's the UK Government's fault. And there will still be sports cars built at Hethel after Emira is finished
Wow its impressive you guys got your hands on this already
This might be my favorite SUV out there right now - if i was to get an electric car this would be the one
great video, my hope is that lotus has good partnerships with technology companies where they can deliver, improve and support this vehicle. It is absolutely striking and looks great inside and out!
Crazy looking car and definitely a new direction for Lotus.
China 🇨🇳 😀
Went to the configurator and they have a WILD green interior id love to see in person lmao
this is pretty neat! the paint is absolutely stunning, the interior looks fantastic and it seems like it drives pretty well too. Trust lotus when it comes to driving dynamics, though.
Interior is fantastic??? It took them 2 minutes to try and turn the music down, car is chinese garbage, RIP real Lotus. All they are is a chinese badge company just like MG. The paint is stunning though.
@@RedVelocistar I didn’t say the interior was ergonomic. I said the interior looks fantastic. If you’re gonna try to invalidate what I’m saying, at least read it properly dude. For a lotus, and really for any car, no matter what logo it may have on it, that interior is objectively good looking. Yeah the functionality isn’t 100% there but it’s a lotus. You don’t buy it for the ergonomics or the functionality, even if it’s an SUV.
Furthermore, the whole “Chinese garbage” thing is so overdone. Cars made in china can still have objectively better build quality than cars made in the US. Made in the USA isn’t necessarily a pro in terms of quality, no matter how hard people try to paint it that way.
@@RedVelocistara 900 hp vehicle with exceptional build quality is Chinese garbage? You own any Lotus cars to begin with?
@RS3NDIT Most Chinese cars are better quality than US cars
This is the most beautiful EV being made. Much better looking than any kind of Tesla.
I like both designs
Both cars are fine. Teslas can be silly looking but they are the best EVS on the market until people get better charger support
it has design cues ripped off of so many other cars though
The steering wheel alignment is totally on point with Lotus lol
The exterior is awesome, interior the same!
I think as far as the sound system is concerned, what helps is that the door speakers are position where your ears are. Most cars' door speakers sit by the ankle.
Also, the speed and acceleration is crazy quick.
I loved it that u guys just hopped in a futuristic car without already playing hours with it!😂
Love that it has KEF speakers! I have a pair of KEF LSX self-powered speakers that are small and sound awesome. Would love to hear this system work!
this is the same as MG being the best seller in Australia right now. Nobody in America would buy a Chinese branded car, so they buy out the brand, make a drastic change to the lineup (mostly made in China) and sell them as "lotus" or "Volvo" since we have a better image of those brands than some random named Chinese brands. RIP Lotus.
I dont see any problems with the funding source-China or Europe-as long as the Engineering and R&D team remains the same.
This is the same inaccuracy that many repeat. Volvo is not a Chinese car branded as a Volvo. Volvo is the same Swedish marque, even more so, than they were under Ford. It was under Ford that Volvo had more Ford parts and influence in it than they do under Geely Holdings. Under ZGH, Volvo was empowered to add engineers, designers and they added people like Robin Page from Bentley and Thomas Ingenlath from VW/Audi and engineers and were able to create Volvos building on the same Volvo technologies and offering the best Volvo can create plus leveraging those of others in the Geely Group. Geely didn't make some Geely car and then say to Volvo, make it look like a Volvo. That's in your imagination, not in reality. Volvo is doing the same Swedish stuff they've always have. Sustainable, sober, stoutly built cars. 25 percent are made in China and the rest elsewhere where Tesla makes 52 percent of their global cars in China. Does that make Tesla Chinese? Absolutely not. They are spec'd in America and there is some international contributions like there are in most car brands.
And where a car is manufactured has little to do with where it is spec'd. A car's robots and manufacturing techniques can be built in plants anywhere. There are plants in Mexico but that doesn't make cars built there Mexican. Likewise in other countries, including China. A car built in China isn't necessarily Chinese. Just made there. But they can be spec'd anywhere.
There's no RIP Lotus. Lotus engineers, designers, chassis tuners are alive and well, and some are even working with Polestar in England though a lot of Lotus engineers are tuning Lotus cars in Germany and still road tested in Hethel, England. So please, stop with the misinformation and do real research on this topic.
Lotus is making an SUV for the same reason other boutique sports car makers are making SUVs. Are they all owned by Chinese companies? No. So, is your theory that Lotus is doing this because Geely Holdings own them really valid?
@@benjaminsmith2287 ^ this 1000x. (Also worth noting Geely is private owned, unlike literally every other Chinese car maker, so it is a lot more libertarian and permissive when it comes to what can or cannot be done with assets, including production plants - Lynk&Co cars, which are technically also made by Geely, come from the same factories in Europe as Volvos!!! Chinese cars built in Europe! Shock horror!!! insert sarcasm)
"Nobody in America would buy a Chinese branded car" has the same reason with "Nobody in America would buy a HUAWEI phone". The "NATIONAL SECURITY" part of free trade. haha
Most APPLE and Tesla also made in China, RIP to them too?
It could have been GM. A Lotus version of the Cadillac Lyriq. I wonder why GM wasn't able to hold on to their ownership of Lotus in the 1990's? 🙂 I guess buyers will have to make do with a Corvette luxury SUV instead?
If this earns Lotus enough money to keep the lights on while making sports cars I'm all for it tbh
Lowering the volume on the screen is on the upper left corner; tapping the icon on the left allows you to change the volume for media. Source: A Lotus dealership video on the Eletre.
holy shit that acceleration!
My goodness this so beautiful different for sure
your perfect discription of this electric vehicle "so much performance and so lttle sound and drama" !
I prefer the reverse....
HOLY #$%@ YOU WERE LITERALLY ALMOST AT 60 BY THE TIME YOU CROSSED THE INTERSECTION!! INSANE!
i love my tlx type s sound system .. that steering wheel off center would drive me nuts
This color is nutty.
This go crazy
I see they still haven't figured out frontal localization in headphones without using head tracking or custom hrtfs, I did research on this for years. Love the binaural audio though, gives it that little extra bit of immersion.
substitute topher is great!
Just watched Throttle Houses review of this and the infotainment screens were laggy as hell. I guess you guys got a good one and they got the problem child
When u do left foot braking in an suv, you know that shits fast🤣🤣
Nice Car
It's a beasty beauty 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
“One of the best UI for infotainment” - unable to find volume control 😂
double topher is best topher
The infotainment is niccceeee
I have a Lotus Eletre S and it’s a perfect car. Some remarks for you:
- Sound control: the upper right icon in the screen.
- This car does have a front trunk.
- For the surround system, it’s a 2180 watt.
- this car does have an adaptative cruise control with a lane keeping assist that already works very well, and it will be capable of 4the level autonomous driving.
Thanks for the review
Congrats. Best of luck with it.
23 speaker 2180w sound system is nuts. It better sound incredible lol
@@DerekNewyen it does sound very nice
@@DerekNewyen Surely 2180W is PMPO? 2180W RMS would be outrageously loud, surely? A standard Marshall head & 1 or 2 cabinets is only 100W RMS!
@@TassieLorenzo Well a 1/4 of that power is probably going to a sub. So that leaves around 1500rms left, 75w or so to the rest of the speakers
"Simplify and add lightness." 🤪
Really enjoyed this review. This R is supposed to be kind of scary on launch, I've heard tales and seen some drags that indicate the traction control isn't quite up to the job. Maybe that's what Lotus was looking for on the R dialing in a bit of the ol' "pucker factor" for the risk taker. Off REALLY means off on traction control too, according to Lotus, so keep that in mind. Bob and Mary in their 900hp three plus ton $30K EV SUVs commuting is quite a dystopian future, imo. Any idea of price as tested?
What will you do if the panic alarm goes off though? Will u be forced to listen to it, or is there a way to turn it off?
I understand Lotus has to make money somehow, but NOTHING about this car seems Lotus. Why not focus on ramping up production for the Emira? Seems like a universally (at least amongst auto journalists) liked car that fits much better with their brand identity?
This car is made in China by Geely. Real Lotus only makes the Emira
There is a front trunk, it's small but it's there!
this is such a random thought but what would happen if like they got into an accident with the cars. im not tryna anything about the driving and def hoping that doesnt happen but kinda just curious like if u would have to pay for some or all the damage and with like insurance n stuff
Wind noise sounds excessive. Did you find that was the case in person?
Wao! How are you recording this?!
That paint is straight up from Los Santos Customs
said Chilli Heeler.
It's nice! I bet with all the different layers and pearl elements, that the paint is really heavy though, it probably adds like 5-10kg to the car. Not sure that Chapman would have offered it as an option, lol.
That EV6 is stupid fast
Sounds like a solid platform but lots of road noise!
Yeah, I wonder if smaller wheels wouls help, but the wind noise would be harder to fix.
what about the steering wheel? It seems to be crooked on the straight stretch!
nice car
Why the steering wheel was not centered when the car was driving straight?
The SUV craze is ridiculous.
Went to test drive Emira and drove the 600hp trim in China, pretty nicely built.
The emira definitely doesn’t have a 600hp trim lol
Pretty sure he meant the 600hp trim for the Eletre lol
@@XxManzanitaPR makes more sense
@@XxManzanitaPR yes thats what I mean, sorry for the confusing guys
It looks like the color i see when I view a white car through a rear view mirror with polarized glasses on.
simplify and add lightness right?
There's nothing British or Lotus about this Eletre. Lotus is Chinese owned now by Geely.
The Eletre shares a lot with other cars under the Geely ownership like Zeekr.
Lastly the Lotus Eletre was designed at the Geely Design Studio in Coventry and is produced in Wuhan, China.
"There's nothing British or Lotus about this Eletre" To be fair, Lotus has had a variety of owners since the 1980's. General Motors, Bugatti (!), Proton, Geely. When GM bought a controlling stake in Lotus, they had to buy out Toyota's 21% share, so Toyota could have bought Lotus too... Any of them could have made an SUV or EV SUV if they wanted to. I'm not sure why General Motors sold off their ownership of Lotus? Would Lotus be better off under General Motors? 🙂
Man...that is a ton of wind noise. I saw the dual pane windows, so surprising that it's that loud.
never trust video mics.
Better to test drive yourself and decide. Wouldn’t trust any video audio fully unless it’s standardized or well tested
Cars seem louder in videos than in real-life testing. There seems to be a lot of wind and road noise but it probably isn't this loud and the testers are saying it is quiet.
I have an Eletre, and it’s very very well isolated, even on high speeds
generally, it’s easier to hear wind noise when it isn’t covered by the noise of an engine, so all EV’s will inevitably seem to have “more” wind noise
The overall design is better than other luxury EV designs, but it still detracts from the legacy design language that has captivated many in the past. Lotus is driver-focused and conservative simplicity.
the matt farah color spec there huh?
You couldn't find a different song from the one the iconic Volvo XC60 Polestar review intro? Viewers do watch videos from other channels...
Are the Toyota Prius, the Ferrari Purosangue and this came from the same family? 🤔
Picking mine up in the morning, also in blossom grey!
Jk.. I just put a quart of oil in my 235k mile 2015 Sportage that I still owe $7k on 🙃
I'm slightly confused, did the turn signal sound just cut out at 11:57? Could this be an issue with the microphone, or did the car just give up on making a sound?
My Peugeot also does that whenever a more important vehicle chime has to be played (e.g. parking sensors close to hitting something, driver door open with parking brake not applied/gearbox not in P, etc), because they all come from the same speaker and they will never mix. When the "emergency" situation is over, the blinker will start clicking again.
It is JUST the sound, however. The turn signal never stops signalling.
@dariopiovani5077 You are right, I didn't notice the additional sound present when watching the video previously. I am not used to this behavior because the car I drive will always play the turn signal sound, no matter the additional sounds it makes during a situation.
@@CookieCreeperIvan If it's an older car, the relay for the turn signals and the beeper module for the BCM are different. Whereas on a modern car they are all simulated sounds through the stereo system.
What song was playing at 4:26?
Never in my life did I think I would want a pink, rainbow and red electric unicorn SUV.... BUT I DO?
Best looking SUVs in my opinion:
1. Ferrari Purosangue
2. Lotus Eletre
3. Cayyene Turbo GT
When are you going to take an EV on a road trip to the U.P.? I'd like to see how that goes.
Plz review
Kia ev 6
2024 model
noise isolation on tesla level?
Petrol has been around for a long time. Its feels nice to see all the new electric powertrains. It's literally new stuff.
They're in their infancy. Although electric cars are an over 100-year old industry, battery tech for them is relatively recent. Batteries need to get more efficient, lighter. But electric motors are faster, smoother, quieter, at least when more than one are used because they're so small, than their ICE counterparts.
It would make some sense if there is no passenger volume control because it's all about the drive and so the driver should be in charge of that.
Unbelievably exciting time for lotus. This just doesn’t even seem like a lotus lol. Seems very well put together. Can’t wait to see where the brand goes.
the wheels and front remind me of a urus
Missing a big a well weighted volume knob... should be mandatory on all cars
People, check your biases against the Chinese and try to be objective. Lotus is a niche brand and as such, niche brands have to expand to stay viable brands. Most niche performance brands have added SUVs to their lineup, sporty ones. Lamborghini, Porsche, Maserati, Ferrari, Aston Martin, so what's your issue that Lotus does so as well? This isn't Colin Chapman's Lotus and so what? Lotus still makes exotic sports cars. But in order for Lotus to exist would you rather them die making sports cars only or be able to provide them while expanding their model lineup with profitable models? And it is no different than Lamborghini. You want them to turn into Triumph or other long lost British marques because you're so hung up on being a purist?
And you are so anti-China that you can't even research, at least some of you, what Geely is actually doing. They haven't killed the Lotus brand. Nor have they killed the Volvo brand. They've actually expanded them. They haven't moved them out of their headquarters. Lotus and Volvo and Polestar are actually making their own platforms and have more resources now to expand their Euro operations. Teams of people in Europe are tuning, testing, specing these cars, not teams of Geely personnel (who make lines like Geely Auto, Proton, Geometry). So what's with the inaccurate nonsense about Geely making Lotus like MG. It's not the same situation.
Just needed to get this off my chest because this sort of anti-Chinese stuff is all over comment sections on Geely Holdings cars. I don't hear objections to VW Group building Lamborghinis and VWs on the same platform. I don't hear that Lamborghini is dying. VW does platform sharing and tech sharing and such as does any car group. So, maybe look at the specifics of what actually is happening before going off emotionally because a Chinese company now owns Lotus.
That's not to say I in any way support the Chinese government. But this is business. And Western companies do business with Chinese and other oppressive governments. That's just the fact.
My personal opinion is yes, fine car. Overkill, but it is a boutique brand. I know this car has Zeekr001 roots and I can see them, but Lotus has build their own car beyond that and it has a higher material and detail level and obviously, performance level in terms of handling. I just wonder when does the growing sizes of tires stop. 23 inch tires are ludicrous even on a sports crossover. 900 plus horsepower and more. What is the limit? We're getting to the point of silliness and we need to figure out why these cars need to have so much performance and if drivers are skilled enough to handle them.
Good luck to Lotus and this car and fine work. With some tweaking, this is an interesting addition to the BEV performance SUVs out there.
I strongly disagree that it is primarily anti-China sentiment. If Toyota as the owner of Lotus (they owned 21% in 1988), or General Motors as the owner of Lotus (they owned 91% between 1989 and 1993), or Bugatti as the owner of Lotus (they bought Lotus from GM) had brought out a 5600lb Lotus SUV, I think the *very same sentiment* of this contradicting simplify and add lightness would be expressed! Whether Lotus' parent company is Chinese, Japanese, American or French and then German is not what this is about IMO.
Reminds of a lynk and co in the front
They are both owned by Geely (incase you didn't know), and the zeekr 001 is also very similar.
Both owned by Geely. No surprise. The real Lotus is dead once the Emira goes out of production.
Whole thing seems neat in a vacuum (like ignoring all the problems of electronic everything) if totally excessive and unnecessary, just sucks to use the Lotus name.
Looks suspiciously like the transport blocks are on the suspension. Sitting very high.
I wonder how it does vs the model x plaid at 20k+ cheaper and 1020 horsepower and 326 miles of range. wow
Cool. An overpriced electric SUV. We’ve never seen that in the last three years. Very original.
Ilysm
Lots of trouble usually serious
Does that car have alignment issues?
Yeah, I noticed that too. Definitely something is not right in there.
he mentioned that in the video
Is this better than the Tesla truck
905 HP....now you finally can get to work on time
The Carlton was named Omega in certain countries.
The name Carlton was only applied to the Vauxhall version in the UK; that car was made during a time where Vauxhall, Opel, and Lotus were all owned by GM
Is the mechanic you need included in the price? 😂
Ready to be wowed by tons of new Chinese cars
Looks like it needs an alignment lol. Sexy car though
Arguably the only car out there worth every single penny of its asking price.
Lamborgeely😂
The steering wheel is not aligned correctly with straight ahead
Yeah, he mentioned that in the video. Then again, its a pre-production car
It’s literally made by Geely.
If i have to look for volume control are it would be ultimate no for me. I hate bad ergonomics in cars interior and puting almost all function to big screen is a definition of bad interior ergonomics and its not premium aproach.
I, really like that! I sorry. I wouldn't trust a Lotus to get me to my backyard!
It's neat, but it's antithetical to the Lotus brand. It weighs almost as much as 3 Elises, and ignores everything that Colin Chapman stood for.
"Simplify, then add lightness."
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights. Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
That Lotus brand failed so hard commercially that it had to be sold to Geely. Not even an Indian, Japanese or German wanted to buy them.
Well the Chinese weren’t exactly known for their ICE technology. So in order to save Lotus, they’ve gotta find their own route which is through EV technology.
@@Clarity520 Volvo says otherwise. The only production twincharged engine.
It´s either this or death for Lotus
@@ARIES6181 that's an assumption based on nothing. The Emira alone proves that's wrong.
not a bad car but to me if you buy performance car it has to be ICE. ICE provides full range of emotions
Only 260 miles out of a 108kW battery? Sounds like they need to work on their efficiency.
This heavy, electric SUV is quiet enough to hear Colin Chapman turn in his grave.
Wow this car is impressive. Gotta say the Chinese are doing great things for the car brands they've bought (Lotus, Polestar)
It's not "the Chinese." Let's be accurate here. This is Geely Holdings, one particular Chinese parent company, not all of the Chinese companies. Another Chinese company could have ruined this one. So, let's acknowledge which Chinese company it is and not make all Chinese companies some sort of monolith. And it is Lotus who has created this car with financial support and a bit of technical support from Geely. Geely empowered but this is mostly what Lotus engineers and designers have done with the resources the parent company provided.
@@benjaminsmith2287Cool. But when it's racism or something negative in general then it reverts back to "the Chinese"
@@benjaminsmith2287 I think your reply is an overreaction. It's no different to saying "the Germans have done great things with Rolls Royce and Bentley", meaning both BMW and VW. Or saying "the Germans did terrible things with Rover, almost like they wanted Rover to fail and were only interested in MINI", meaning BMW.
Always tell the truth. That way, you don't have to remember what you said.
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