The Wyrdeer discussion reminds me of some of encounters I've had with rattle snakes in Arizona. Some people like to think that rattle snakes are choosing to be more quiet around humans because if they rattle then they might get hurt or die, but they could also not be rattling because they are used to humans being around and don't see them as something to warn off. Like when we moved out to a new area where new homes were being built, the snakes would always rattle. But after two decades I think the snakes have adapted to human's presence and are more laid back. Like I've walked by one and didn't notice it until my third time walking past the area of the yard, but it stayed out of the foot path and kept to itself. So it didn't feel threatened and didn't feel like causing a fuss. So there can always be more reasons for changes in animal behaviors after being exposed to humans for prolonged periods of time.
Now that I'm thinking about it; Arceus is just choosing a side in the Trolly problem Either they don't bring the trainer back, causing humans to keep their distrust of Pokémon, letting Giritina take revenge on Arceus in some form, and allowing the time rift to remain a problem all to keep these regional variants around Or they intervene, allowing humans and Pokémon to come together as one, stopping Giritina from taking revenge, and sealing the time rift, with the side effect of allowing human civilization to flourish causing the downfall of a few of these regional variants and their environments Does Arceus pull the lever or not?
It’s interesting that Arceus would keep this up. This game’s Manaphy side quest implies that you exist in a time loop or propagate this history throughout the multiverse. The only reason why you could solve the Sea’s Legend at all is because you read about the story in the future, and then stories were told of your exploits in the past after you completed the first Pokedex. You were reading about your own adventure in the Canalave Library. Basically, Arceus would rather sacrifice Hisuian Pokemon if it means protecting himself and the world from the very real threat of Volo. Every timeline. Every universe.
@@reggielacey2235 I love it when someone says "you're wrong" and then walks away without explaining anything. If you are going to tell people they're wrong you have to tell them why, otherwise you just look like you're blowing hot air.
@@reggielacey2235 The theory does have significant merit, given that the P:LA protag is from the relative future. It's been thought for a long time that you play as BDSP's Dawn or Lucas (some years later given the stated age difference) in P:LA.
If this theory is right, maybe Arceus look into a different timeline, and this is the best of them all. Besides, technically, you could say that most of these Pokemon evolved differently or stopped evolving at all to survive, so they weren't massacres. outright.
I feel like the voltorb one could be wrong. considering we can farm apercots, I don't think that we would ever run out. I think that pokeballs got more modern and voltorbs pokeball impersonation got less and less convincing, so it got noticed more and became less efficient. then it slowly evolved over time to match the pokeballs that were being improved on.
There are three issues with this, however. First, just because we farm a certain product does not ensure that it won't run out. You still have to use the product sustainably. If you use more than you farm, you'll run out eventually. Second, if the Voltorbs were trying to mimic the old pokeballs in order to hide, this would be a horrible survival tactic. While there are those who went out and used pokeballs, a majority of people wouldn't due to the dangers of wild Pokemon. So any pokeball in the wild would be strange since there aren't enough people using pokeballs to make the appearance normal. Third, this is a chicken and egg scenario. Did the Voltorb always look like a pokeball, and the people who made the first pokeball modeled it after Voltorb? Or did Voltorb decide for whatever reason to adapt itself to look like a pokeball when it was first being used? I think the first scenario is more likely due to the reasons above.
@@KaiserKai16 one more thing to add on this past sinnoh region too which would make sense for apricots to be here, but in modern times the only region to have apricots is Johto
@@UmbraBeatss The problem with this is that we don't know what the past versions of other regions look like until they release another Legends game. It is possible that apricots were common all over the world, but everyone overused them to the point of wiping them out, except Johto, so the Hisuian Voltorb may not be unique to this region. It's possible all of them evolved out of necessity because people started to farm their wood for pokeballs, though Johto would be a curious exception.
Arceus sent us back but I think volo forced his hand because he used giratina to open the space time rift. Rather Arceus knew this or his hand was forced so he brings you into the past
Rather than the really 'you are bad trainer!' conclusion, it could instead by Arceus sends us (as the trainer) back to advert the timeline where humans and pokemon come into full conflict with one side destroying the other, or mutually assured destruction.
I guess from Arceus' perspective there's two ways this can go. Poke Balls already exist by the time you get there. People already have Pokemon. Entire teams even. Humans are expanding. They're going to different regions and seeing what is what. Not particularly well, but they are expanding. Either Arceus leaves things be where people hate and fear Pokemon. Or it sends back someone who knows Pokemon are friends, and that person is able to at least dampen some of the damage by allowing more people see that there isn't a reason to fear Pokemon. That they are friends, and can be helpful, and they share the world too. It's not perfect, but maybe it lays the groundwork for less damage to be done.
This opens the idea that there's a version of the Pokémon universe where Pokemon are still feared and possibly hunted down because of that fear. I really don't want to imagine what that universe is like.
@@ScorbunGame humans would be dead. In the time were humans are they dont have Any advanced weapons besides maybe blades...which wont even scratch aggrons and then you have speedy fast mons like weaviles who can kill mammoths easily without traps like humans need. Pokemon would have no trouble wiping humanity out
This Theory is plausible but considering how evolution works for pkmn,it's not too weird for a species to change form to adapt to modern conditions. Also the games only showcase regions,not the countries or massive continents in their entirety. Like how similar but different Johto was to Kanto.
This is a bootstrap paradox, it was going to happen anyway, the protag just introduced it sooner than before, plus with the time distortions, pokemon from the future also started appearing much earlier than discovered like the other Eeveelutions. With a higher biodiversity than before, the world of Legends could take drastic deviations from the world of Pokémon before. Also, with the Pokemon becoming friends far earlier than human industrialization, we can adapt better methods of cohabitating to avoid extinction events. Better more efficient methods which have a significant environmental footprint than the timeline previous. Arceus was playing a mega brain game of chess and just went back to change one move or add another piece and cheat the timeline of events, bringing one child with a love of pokemon early enough to change the future of pokemon forever. His journey making sure to put him into a position of respect to have the power to make the changes necessary for his and future generations.
which is actually a survival tactic performed by real live animals as well: kill yourself plus the attacker to protect the rest of your species. Questionable how logical exactly that tactic is, but it seems to have worked so far for them, so who am I to judge? xD
So lets say the theory is correct, in the pokemon world it is established humans can marry/mate with pokemon making humans in that world related to pokemon. So hear me out...Arceus sends someone back to teach humans in the past that they don't have to be afraid of pokemon. This then allows humans to progress and improve quality of life for humans and pokemon if you think about it. Sure we lost 25 hisuan variations, but how many pokemon evolved/created since humans expanded. This includes digital pokemon like porygon, certain steel types, poison types, etc... So my theory is Arceus wanted someone else to become the care taker of the world, and who better than a species who are setient enough to do so. Now it's not a perfect plan, but I think Arceus made a system for pokemon to continuously increase or get created... and he needed a catalyst, being humans. Pokemon started looking like human made items right? sooooooo in the end Pokemon as a whole had a continuous way to keep surviving in the world thanks to humans ingenuity. Now it's not a perfect system, but it allowed continous growth for both human and pokemon alike.
Not to mention, volo was going to reset the world and no one could stop him because volo was backed by powerful Pokémon. Volo even hints that the player was spat out of the rift in order to stop him
@@captainpolar2343 yes, but you have to match the words with the correct definitions. Patterrz said Omnipotent, but connected it with the definition of Omniscient.
Sounds like Growlithe gave up its rock typing to reduce its water and ground type weakness and lose its fighting type weakness entity. A good trade off if you ask me.
It is so “human” and funny how. He went full “it’s not our fault, god send is back in time. It is god’s fault!” Right away. We have such tendencies to shift blame, it kinda make sense why we “would” hunt species into extinction
Due to Regigigas pokedex entry we know the game takes place 200-300 years beforehand. Regigigas was sealed 500 yrs ago in modern day. In legends over 200 years ago he was sealed away
Theory: It was inevitable for these pokemon to go extinct, so Arceus sent us back in time not only to save the region from Giratina, but to be able to bring Hisuian pokemon back in the future with S/V home compatibility.
Technically you could argue the protagonist literally had no choice because the people of Hisui were clear. If the player could not hold up their end of effort they will be sent back to the wild left to most likely die
No, that’s not a theory. “Yamask” (or however you write that), is in fact a dead person who carries their face around! It is stated in one of the Pokédex entries as far as I remember. Driftloon is a balloon Pokémon that kidnaps children! There’s also the ghost tree-stump Pokémon, who are deceased children who got lost in the woods!
How do you live in water and be a poor swimmer ? I mean, sea horses are a thing. Also real Puffers are poor swimmer, and that's why they have the spikes for protection.
7:13 with people able to make Pokémon forget moves it’s likely they just weren’t using it and replaced it with other moves. Through time they just replaced them
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Not really, pokemon bring back extinct mons ALOT. Remember tyrantrum? A extinct fossil mon that was brought back and was so good at being in the new age that it's just a common mon now? Just cause they will be in the new game doesnt mean the theory isn't true since...well death doesnt really mean much in pokemon as it can always be reversed with the technology as even humans have come back from death. Plus some of the evolutions are about items which other regions would still probably have. Sinnoh though clearly doesnt as this theory is talking about sinnoh which hisui is.
@@jessealexander3346 it doesn't really go against that idea eather. Let's say Arceus let those pokemon go extinct on purpose, that would also still ring true for other extinct pokemon like tyrantrum. If Arceus is a real god, then it could have prevented those pokemon from going extinct in the first place, but chose not to. It also chose not to stop humans from bringing those pokemon back to live. So really, Arceus just generally doesn't seem to care and humans now have the technologie to reverse past mistakes/decitions by literally bringing back the dead.
Fun fact: For anyone who watched demon slayer the Insect pillar has a gold fish named fugu which is a direct Easter Easter egg to the poisonous fish and how they use poison to slay demons
well, since Arceus is god and created the entire universe and shet, it kinda makes sense, like, he's not evil, he's neutral, he created and helps both humans and pokemons, he's imparcial, so i wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who set up an human extintion on some region where humans are kinda of jerks XD
@@jamestomato1744 i didn`t explained it better on this comment because i didn`t want to make it long, but what i meant is kinda like, imagine there`s a threshold to either sides, once the people pass this limit, he acts, kinda like, making sure things still at a certain level of acceptable on his eyes, once he thinks someone`s going too far like Volo, he intervenes, get what i mean?
The problem is that Giratina and Volo were causing problems. If you didn’t do anything, the world would be fucked by a rampaging Dialga/Palkia or Giratina would still be scheming to do a Team Galactic.
But maybe the growlithe,voltorbs or qwilfish just evolved,like birds,birds evolved from dinosaurs,but you can't find dinosaurs anymore,right?So I personally think they just evolved. Note:the evolution is not the pokemon evolution I'm talking about.
Maybe the pokeballs made out of voltorb came to life as modern voltorb. It would match with pokedex entries, like Ruby says it was first discovered in a factory that produced pokeballs. Maybe they were pokeballs made out of the wooden voltorb
I think that hissuian growlith could have been the selectively bred into modern growlith, wyrdeer would probably just be shorn like sheep instead of killed and just forgot how to use it over time, and hissuian voltorb in the pokedex said that they would fire off seeds and get would get the hole on top of its head pluged and kick out of town, also pokeballs need the aprocorn SHELLS not the internal parts, like the seeds, even though we don't see aprocorns in the wild in modern sinnoh, that just means that they could be deeper in the wilds and in farms.
“I thought that was just minecraft” naw cuz i acc thought this as well and said it to the teacher once, they just googled it and showed me and i’m like “the what” so uhh… patterz i’m with ya buddy
Isn't that one basically a minor god/force of nature? In some mythologies minor gods/gods in general die when people no longer believe in them. Or it could have just gotten sick of electing punishment, and just decidet to leave humans alone all together. No more punishment for disrespecting live, but also no more blessings for new live.
the forces of nature in there Therian Formes are the pokemon's versions of the The Four Symbols from china they viewed as the guardians of the four cardinal directions Black Tortoise of the North=Enamorous it looks like a turtle White Tiger of the West= Landorus it looks like a a big cat Tornadus is the Vermilion Bird of the South and Thundurus is the Azure Dragon of the East. I think that if we get a gen 5 legends game or a gen 5 remake Enamorous will be there in an unexplored northern region of Unova or Palida the new reagion in Scarlet and Violet
I want a Pokemon game like Genshin Impact. Separate it by Region, let you pick which Region you start in, then work your way around the Regions, taking on the Gyms and Elite 4, while becoming a Champion and accepting random challenges, or maybe you choose to put aside becoming a Champion for now, you decline to be the new Champion, and you challenge the other Regions, in whatever order you want. I really think it could be done, especially if they designed it for PC or Consoles.
What I like to imagine: * Arceus sends Protagonist back in time * Arceus: "Show everyone that peace between Pokemon and humans is possible." * Protagonist does exactly that * * Humans aren't afraid anymore and start exploiting the nature * Arceus: "Oh no..." * Arceus looks over at Giratina * Arceus: "Guys, it was him! He caused humanity to ruin this region!"
I mean...Hisuian Zoroark is a vengfull ghost...not sure if I would call that "alive" xD Plus, bringing extinct Pokemon back to live isn't new in the Pokemon universe. Some of the previously extinct Pokemon, live now in Sword and Shields Snow Tundra, without retconing that they where originally extinct.
The thing is that some pokemon may have evolved, and with that i dont mean individual evolution, but adaptation, like vulpix and ninetales in alola We dont know how fast that works in the pokemon world, maybe an species can change completely within a millennia or some hundreds of years (i mean, their physical body goes throught a whole changing body within seconds as individuals, pokemon adapt MUCH, MUCH faster than humans)
Actually, evolution tends to give out not so great traits too. Its not simply about getting better, but changing and diversifying to hopefully last long enough to continue the species. And as a fun fact, we have steadily lost about 95% of all species on our planet have been going extinct, including the ones that existed before humans were a thing.
dog breeds can change over 100 years the funny thing that most modern dog breed are only 200 years or younger. Growlithe is still around so his theory is kind of bunk since most of the pokemon are still around
I technically believe in any civilization out there in the universe. If they were a civilization, that means they would have to industrialize, so humanity is not only a part of this, others species will be a part of this kind of disaster.
maybe sinnoh's history is meant to happen this way and arceus is just just doing this because it is how it was meant to unfold but if the protag was from the same world as the rest of the pokemon series and not the another world as the mega evolution world why not just let dialga do it unless it is that important or because dialga cant speak or use telepathy as arceus can
Hm, according to the main site: _"It grows much larger when it evolves, and garments with the fur _*_shed from its beard, tail, and legs_*_ are highly prized for their top-notch protection against the cold."_
Fun fact: In french the black augurite is directly called obsidienne
well that's a confirmation and a damn half
@@prestongarvey2599 where's the next settlement?
The Wyrdeer discussion reminds me of some of encounters I've had with rattle snakes in Arizona. Some people like to think that rattle snakes are choosing to be more quiet around humans because if they rattle then they might get hurt or die, but they could also not be rattling because they are used to humans being around and don't see them as something to warn off. Like when we moved out to a new area where new homes were being built, the snakes would always rattle. But after two decades I think the snakes have adapted to human's presence and are more laid back. Like I've walked by one and didn't notice it until my third time walking past the area of the yard, but it stayed out of the foot path and kept to itself. So it didn't feel threatened and didn't feel like causing a fuss. So there can always be more reasons for changes in animal behaviors after being exposed to humans for prolonged periods of time.
Like city pigeons
Now that I'm thinking about it; Arceus is just choosing a side in the Trolly problem
Either they don't bring the trainer back, causing humans to keep their distrust of Pokémon, letting Giritina take revenge on Arceus in some form, and allowing the time rift to remain a problem all to keep these regional variants around
Or they intervene, allowing humans and Pokémon to come together as one, stopping Giritina from taking revenge, and sealing the time rift, with the side effect of allowing human civilization to flourish causing the downfall of a few of these regional variants and their environments
Does Arceus pull the lever or not?
I guess better nate than lever, meaning better for a few Pokemon to die out than an entire universe via a part of existence. Good paradox
The funny thing is that the theory does lowkey give more validation to Team Plasma outside the manga and BW. Humans be fucked up
Arceus only wanted to save himself from Volo, who wanted to create a better world by using Arceus's power
Blow up the train
@@cleverman383 Yeah but that means the entire universe gets restarted and instead of a few species dying, it would be everyone and everything
It’s interesting that Arceus would keep this up. This game’s Manaphy side quest implies that you exist in a time loop or propagate this history throughout the multiverse. The only reason why you could solve the Sea’s Legend at all is because you read about the story in the future, and then stories were told of your exploits in the past after you completed the first Pokedex. You were reading about your own adventure in the Canalave Library. Basically, Arceus would rather sacrifice Hisuian Pokemon if it means protecting himself and the world from the very real threat of Volo. Every timeline. Every universe.
That's even suggesting this theory's is correct which it's not
@@reggielacey2235 I love it when someone says "you're wrong" and then walks away without explaining anything. If you are going to tell people they're wrong you have to tell them why, otherwise you just look like you're blowing hot air.
@@reggielacey2235 The theory does have significant merit, given that the P:LA protag is from the relative future. It's been thought for a long time that you play as BDSP's Dawn or Lucas (some years later given the stated age difference) in P:LA.
If this theory is right, maybe Arceus look into a different timeline, and this is the best of them all. Besides, technically, you could say that most of these Pokemon evolved differently or stopped evolving at all to survive, so they weren't massacres. outright.
I think Volo is not actually a threat to Arceus but to everyone else.
Arceus only gives you a fraction of his power
I feel like the voltorb one could be wrong. considering we can farm apercots, I don't think that we would ever run out. I think that pokeballs got more modern and voltorbs pokeball impersonation got less and less convincing, so it got noticed more and became less efficient. then it slowly evolved over time to match the pokeballs that were being improved on.
There are three issues with this, however. First, just because we farm a certain product does not ensure that it won't run out. You still have to use the product sustainably. If you use more than you farm, you'll run out eventually.
Second, if the Voltorbs were trying to mimic the old pokeballs in order to hide, this would be a horrible survival tactic. While there are those who went out and used pokeballs, a majority of people wouldn't due to the dangers of wild Pokemon. So any pokeball in the wild would be strange since there aren't enough people using pokeballs to make the appearance normal.
Third, this is a chicken and egg scenario. Did the Voltorb always look like a pokeball, and the people who made the first pokeball modeled it after Voltorb? Or did Voltorb decide for whatever reason to adapt itself to look like a pokeball when it was first being used? I think the first scenario is more likely due to the reasons above.
@@KaiserKai16 one more thing to add on this past sinnoh region too which would make sense for apricots to be here, but in modern times the only region to have apricots is Johto
11:55 he makes it sound as if no one thought of farming
@@UmbraBeatss The problem with this is that we don't know what the past versions of other regions look like until they release another Legends game. It is possible that apricots were common all over the world, but everyone overused them to the point of wiping them out, except Johto, so the Hisuian Voltorb may not be unique to this region. It's possible all of them evolved out of necessity because people started to farm their wood for pokeballs, though Johto would be a curious exception.
@@nathanhernandez3957 my dude, it's called deforestation
Arceus sent us back but I think volo forced his hand because he used giratina to open the space time rift. Rather Arceus knew this or his hand was forced so he brings you into the past
Rather than the really 'you are bad trainer!' conclusion, it could instead by Arceus sends us (as the trainer) back to advert the timeline where humans and pokemon come into full conflict with one side destroying the other, or mutually assured destruction.
Like Pokemon war
I guess from Arceus' perspective there's two ways this can go.
Poke Balls already exist by the time you get there. People already have Pokemon. Entire teams even. Humans are expanding. They're going to different regions and seeing what is what. Not particularly well, but they are expanding.
Either Arceus leaves things be where people hate and fear Pokemon.
Or it sends back someone who knows Pokemon are friends, and that person is able to at least dampen some of the damage by allowing more people see that there isn't a reason to fear Pokemon. That they are friends, and can be helpful, and they share the world too.
It's not perfect, but maybe it lays the groundwork for less damage to be done.
This opens the idea that there's a version of the Pokémon universe where Pokemon are still feared and possibly hunted down because of that fear.
I really don't want to imagine what that universe is like.
@@ScorbunGame humans would be dead. In the time were humans are they dont have Any advanced weapons besides maybe blades...which wont even scratch aggrons and then you have speedy fast mons like weaviles who can kill mammoths easily without traps like humans need. Pokemon would have no trouble wiping humanity out
@@gageunruh3574 But all it would really take is for one human to capture or enslave a powerful Pokémon then teach that technique to others
This Theory is plausible but considering how evolution works for pkmn,it's not too weird for a species to change form to adapt to modern conditions. Also the games only showcase regions,not the countries or massive continents in their entirety.
Like how similar but different Johto was to Kanto.
Thats not how pokemon evolution works, thats real life evolution
@@shadow-faye Pokémon clearly has real life evolution and adaptations too just look at regional variants
@@chefgreasypaw7816 yeah but thats not how "evolution works for pkmn" thats how evolution works in general
@@shadow-faye I think they’re saying Pokémon adapting would be faster than normal animals because of Pokémon evolution but idk
@@chefgreasypaw7816 solid maybe on that
This is a bootstrap paradox, it was going to happen anyway, the protag just introduced it sooner than before, plus with the time distortions, pokemon from the future also started appearing much earlier than discovered like the other Eeveelutions. With a higher biodiversity than before, the world of Legends could take drastic deviations from the world of Pokémon before.
Also, with the Pokemon becoming friends far earlier than human industrialization, we can adapt better methods of cohabitating to avoid extinction events. Better more efficient methods which have a significant environmental footprint than the timeline previous. Arceus was playing a mega brain game of chess and just went back to change one move or add another piece and cheat the timeline of events, bringing one child with a love of pokemon early enough to change the future of pokemon forever. His journey making sure to put him into a position of respect to have the power to make the changes necessary for his and future generations.
If the player character would have left things be, Volo would have overthrown Arceus and killed all pokemon.
"how do you live in water and not know how to swim" seaweed seems to manage fine
Electrode gave up the grass to go boom tbh massive upgrade instead of dying and exploding into pieces it kills everyone by blowing up into many pieces
which is actually a survival tactic performed by real live animals as well: kill yourself plus the attacker to protect the rest of your species.
Questionable how logical exactly that tactic is, but it seems to have worked so far for them, so who am I to judge? xD
The person who does the Pokedex voice in the video is actually Mattpatt's head editor Dan. He has a yt channel of his own
Thank you Pat for helping out this small youtuber get attention!
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Hm, while I’ll can see where he is coming from, if the Protagonist hadn’t done anything, who would’ve handled the Space-Time Rift?
Arceus he handled giratina doing something bad
@@MD.Akib_Al_Azad huh, fair enough point.
@@MD.Akib_Al_Azad yeah but arceus doesn't do shit, so I mean y,know
No one. Volo would have used it to create a better world.
@@cleverman383 in his point of view, yeah.
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The fact that ursaluna, basculegion, hisuian arcanine, overqwil, and kleavor are no longer extinct because of the teal mask and indigo disk
“When you evolve your supposed to get better adapted”
Say that to peppers.
So lets say the theory is correct, in the pokemon world it is established humans can marry/mate with pokemon making humans in that world related to pokemon. So hear me out...Arceus sends someone back to teach humans in the past that they don't have to be afraid of pokemon. This then allows humans to progress and improve quality of life for humans and pokemon if you think about it. Sure we lost 25 hisuan variations, but how many pokemon evolved/created since humans expanded. This includes digital pokemon like porygon, certain steel types, poison types, etc... So my theory is Arceus wanted someone else to become the care taker of the world, and who better than a species who are setient enough to do so. Now it's not a perfect plan, but I think Arceus made a system for pokemon to continuously increase or get created... and he needed a catalyst, being humans. Pokemon started looking like human made items right? sooooooo in the end Pokemon as a whole had a continuous way to keep surviving in the world thanks to humans ingenuity. Now it's not a perfect system, but it allowed continous growth for both human and pokemon alike.
Not to mention, volo was going to reset the world and no one could stop him because volo was backed by powerful Pokémon. Volo even hints that the player was spat out of the rift in order to stop him
the con: a bunch of pokemon went extinct and got replaced with lesser versions of themselves
the pro: *WE GOT MEWTWO BABY LESS GOOOOOOOOOO*
worth it
Scyther no longer had the ability to evolve
Scizor: Am I a joke to you
It couldn't evolve into that form anymore. The current evolution is just metal
18:00 Omnipotent means all powerful. The word you meant to use there is omniscient, all knowing.
of which arceus (god) is both
@@captainpolar2343 yes, but you have to match the words with the correct definitions. Patterrz said Omnipotent, but connected it with the definition of Omniscient.
Reminder: Growlithe is one of the Swarm or PokeRadar Pokemon on Route 201 or 202
Sounds like Growlithe gave up its rock typing to reduce its water and ground type weakness and lose its fighting type weakness entity. A good trade off if you ask me.
"How do you live in water and be a poor swimmer?"
Seahorse: *sweating nervously*
It is so “human” and funny how. He went full “it’s not our fault, god send is back in time. It is god’s fault!” Right away. We have such tendencies to shift blame, it kinda make sense why we “would” hunt species into extinction
I remember a Kalos npc that pointed it's strange that Kalos pokemon are only in Kalos while Unovan pokemon are both in Unova and Kalos
Due to Regigigas pokedex entry we know the game takes place 200-300 years beforehand. Regigigas was sealed 500 yrs ago in modern day. In legends over 200 years ago he was sealed away
"Hunted the quilfish to extinction"
My brain: with what pokemon, magikarp.
I like it when Patterrz reacts and he doesn't make a dumb joke every 10 seconds this time .
Very refreshing
“Can you IMAGINE a world where we’re ALL represented by a FONT?”
hey at least the change from hisuian zorua/zoroark to normal zorua/zoroark has good implications.
Theory: It was inevitable for these pokemon to go extinct, so Arceus sent us back in time not only to save the region from Giratina, but to be able to bring Hisuian pokemon back in the future with S/V home compatibility.
Technically you could argue the protagonist literally had no choice because the people of Hisui were clear. If the player could not hold up their end of effort they will be sent back to the wild left to most likely die
No, that’s not a theory. “Yamask” (or however you write that), is in fact a dead person who carries their face around! It is stated in one of the Pokédex entries as far as I remember. Driftloon is a balloon Pokémon that kidnaps children! There’s also the ghost tree-stump Pokémon, who are deceased children who got lost in the woods!
How do you live in water and be a poor swimmer ? I mean, sea horses are a thing. Also real Puffers are poor swimmer, and that's why they have the spikes for protection.
7:13 with people able to make Pokémon forget moves it’s likely they just weren’t using it and replaced it with other moves. Through time they just replaced them
My name is Pat Jensen and I’m here to say, I run MorePatterrz every day! I qualified for Worlds but I don’t have dinner, I’m the Mongolian voice for Seymour Skinner!
You're also a liar
Alright, screw calling Ho-oh "Phoenix" or "Embertross" or any of the sorts, Hydroperox is what I will be going for now!
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It's a neat theory, I just find it really funny that it completely falls apart if Hisuian Forms are available in Scarlet/Violet.
This is already confirmed that Hiusi's Pokémon will be in the game. Via an image from the Pokémon website, since the first teaser!
Not really, pokemon bring back extinct mons ALOT. Remember tyrantrum? A extinct fossil mon that was brought back and was so good at being in the new age that it's just a common mon now?
Just cause they will be in the new game doesnt mean the theory isn't true since...well death doesnt really mean much in pokemon as it can always be reversed with the technology as even humans have come back from death.
Plus some of the evolutions are about items which other regions would still probably have. Sinnoh though clearly doesnt as this theory is talking about sinnoh which hisui is.
@@gageunruh3574 It goes against the idea that it's intentional on their part though.
@@jessealexander3346 it doesn't really go against that idea eather. Let's say Arceus let those pokemon go extinct on purpose, that would also still ring true for other extinct pokemon like tyrantrum. If Arceus is a real god, then it could have prevented those pokemon from going extinct in the first place, but chose not to. It also chose not to stop humans from bringing those pokemon back to live. So really, Arceus just generally doesn't seem to care and humans now have the technologie to reverse past mistakes/decitions by literally bringing back the dead.
That's for fan service,
It's not canon
Fun fact: For anyone who watched demon slayer the Insect pillar has a gold fish named fugu which is a direct Easter Easter egg to the poisonous fish and how they use poison to slay demons
You should check out "Pokemon Legendary Bytes" by Man on the Internet
The team added lyrics to some iconic Legendary themes
I thought the website said people plug up voltorbs hole so it stoped shooting seeds, so the exploded.
Ayo🤨
Damn, Voltorb got his seed stunned 😔
10:08 soviet union during the cold war
MatPat: It's OUR fault!!
Me: I mean....there's a reason his name is pronounced: Arse-He-Is....
Its not anymore, but that was a good joke.
How the indigo disk thrown all of this out the window.😅
Perrin with her hisuian growlithe and the one she gives you as well
👁️👄👁️
well, since Arceus is god and created the entire universe and shet, it kinda makes sense, like, he's not evil, he's neutral, he created and helps both humans and pokemons, he's imparcial, so i wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who set up an human extintion on some region where humans are kinda of jerks XD
but if he's truly impartial then...why intervene at all?
@@jamestomato1744 i didn`t explained it better on this comment because i didn`t want to make it long, but what i meant is kinda like, imagine there`s a threshold to either sides, once the people pass this limit, he acts, kinda like, making sure things still at a certain level of acceptable on his eyes, once he thinks someone`s going too far like Volo, he intervenes, get what i mean?
@@NyesoEX Yeah I get it (cosmic order and whatnot).
The problem is that Giratina and Volo were causing problems. If you didn’t do anything, the world would be fucked by a rampaging Dialga/Palkia or Giratina would still be scheming to do a Team Galactic.
Girantina: And Ya'll call me the bad guy. FU DAD!👿
I always hoped the Pokemon that attack is in the Wild like battling anyway, so is fighting with them is fine.
Pat... you didn't know Obsidian was real? XD
8:00 That would be VO Theorist Editor Dan
They should have a pokemon legends eternatus where its old galar and you experience the darkest day
But maybe the growlithe,voltorbs or qwilfish just evolved,like birds,birds evolved from dinosaurs,but you can't find dinosaurs anymore,right?So I personally think they just evolved.
Note:the evolution is not the pokemon evolution I'm talking about.
Btw matpat if u read this,I'm not saying that your idea does not make sense,I'm just saying that I have a personal idea that also make sense.
18:57 then Volo would've succeeded in his plan, and recreate the World
"Congratulations! You are killing Pokémon!
- Woo hoo! Yeah, let's go!"
wouldn't it be Volo and Giratina's fault for making Arceus feel the need to put a stop to them?
“The saber tooth tiger isn’t extinct there are still tigers in some countries”
-Patterz, probably
Those poor Hisuian Pokémon. Lost to the addles of time.😭
My theory is that gamefreak wanted to add new pokemon to there first open world game
10:22 magikarp aren’t very good swimmers either, they get pushed around by tides and such
Arceus: "Time for a culling of my people's (Pokemon) masses"
2:28
Yeah, about that
What's with the 4 gen recently
First a remake of the gen 4 games and then a new game in the same region?
Hmm yes, in red and blue, Charizard was hunted out of being able to fly
But there was an Ursuluna in Kitakami lol
Maybe the pokeballs made out of voltorb came to life as modern voltorb. It would match with pokedex entries, like Ruby says it was first discovered in a factory that produced pokeballs. Maybe they were pokeballs made out of the wooden voltorb
I like these videos when Pat tries to hype up the ads because he knows content creators need to eat.
I love how you tried your best to be a hype man through the ad but matt just kept on going
I think that hissuian growlith could have been the selectively bred into modern growlith, wyrdeer would probably just be shorn like sheep instead of killed and just forgot how to use it over time, and hissuian voltorb in the pokedex said that they would fire off seeds and get would get the hole on top of its head pluged and kick out of town, also pokeballs need the aprocorn SHELLS not the internal parts, like the seeds, even though we don't see aprocorns in the wild in modern sinnoh, that just means that they could be deeper in the wilds and in farms.
10:34 guy forgets what a puffer fish is
I actually have a small piece of obsidian.
17:55, I think the word you seek is omniscient.
“I thought that was just minecraft” naw cuz i acc thought this as well and said it to the teacher once, they just googled it and showed me and i’m like “the what” so uhh… patterz i’m with ya buddy
Explain Enamorous, then. The legendary exclusive to Legends Arceus. The one ‘new’ Pokémon in that game to not be a Regional Form or Evolution.
Isn't that one basically a minor god/force of nature?
In some mythologies minor gods/gods in general die when people no longer believe in them.
Or it could have just gotten sick of electing punishment, and just decidet to leave humans alone all together. No more punishment for disrespecting live, but also no more blessings for new live.
the forces of nature in there Therian Formes are the pokemon's versions of the The Four Symbols from china they viewed as the guardians of the four cardinal directions Black Tortoise of the North=Enamorous it looks like a turtle White Tiger of the West= Landorus it looks like a a big cat Tornadus is the Vermilion Bird of the South and Thundurus is the Azure Dragon of the East. I think that if we get a gen 5 legends game or a gen 5 remake Enamorous will be there in an unexplored northern region of Unova or Palida the new reagion in Scarlet and Violet
Hisuian decidueye isn't actually a pokemon that just exists in hisui, right?
Since the only way to get it is from alola or a dimensional rift
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And now, all the extinct pokemon are available to the trainer in the future though. That's why they have pokemon home access
I want a Pokemon game like Genshin Impact. Separate it by Region, let you pick which Region you start in, then work your way around the Regions, taking on the Gyms and Elite 4, while becoming a Champion and accepting random challenges, or maybe you choose to put aside becoming a Champion for now, you decline to be the new Champion, and you challenge the other Regions, in whatever order you want. I really think it could be done, especially if they designed it for PC or Consoles.
I hope the next Legend Pokemon game is put in Union region but I like to see the Legendary Dragon.
What I like to imagine:
* Arceus sends Protagonist back in time *
Arceus: "Show everyone that peace between Pokemon and humans is possible."
* Protagonist does exactly that *
* Humans aren't afraid anymore and start exploiting the nature *
Arceus: "Oh no..."
* Arceus looks over at Giratina *
Arceus: "Guys, it was him! He caused humanity to ruin this region!"
I feel like ursaluna could still exist for one major reason....who is gonna give their ursaring some clay during a full moon?
Not all of them can be dead, in one of the scarlet and violet trailers there was a Hisuian Zoroark (I'm pretty sure there was at least)
I mean...Hisuian Zoroark is a vengfull ghost...not sure if I would call that "alive" xD
Plus, bringing extinct Pokemon back to live isn't new in the Pokemon universe. Some of the previously extinct Pokemon, live now in Sword and Shields Snow Tundra, without retconing that they where originally extinct.
its giratina's fault because he started the chaos if that didnt happen arceus wouldn't have sent us and ingo to hisui
The thing is that some pokemon may have evolved, and with that i dont mean individual evolution, but adaptation, like vulpix and ninetales in alola
We dont know how fast that works in the pokemon world, maybe an species can change completely within a millennia or some hundreds of years (i mean, their physical body goes throught a whole changing body within seconds as individuals, pokemon adapt MUCH, MUCH faster than humans)
Yes patterz poach the poachers, harvest the 'lower' horn.
POKEMON VICTINI: Stopping the industrial revolution.
Actually, evolution tends to give out not so great traits too. Its not simply about getting better, but changing and diversifying to hopefully last long enough to continue the species. And as a fun fact, we have steadily lost about 95% of all species on our planet have been going extinct, including the ones that existed before humans were a thing.
Liked for the logical conclusion lmao
MatPat forgets that 'evolution' (Darwinian evolution, not pokemon evolution) exists
Hummus are also the only creature the needs money to live on the planet
1:18 The Yamask one is established with the Pokédex. Not a theory.
THAT'S WHY HE SAID "There's alot of weird lore." PAY ATTENTION
dog breeds can change over 100 years the funny thing that most modern dog breed are only 200 years or younger. Growlithe is still around so his theory is kind of bunk since most of the pokemon are still around
3:58 well if someone said that they are right hisuian zoroark is in paldea
4:12 someone in the chat: "is he gay? I'm new to the channel"
wut? :|
I technically believe in any civilization out there in the universe. If they were a civilization, that means they would have to industrialize, so humanity is not only a part of this, others species will be a part of this kind of disaster.
maybe sinnoh's history is meant to happen this way and arceus is just just doing this because it is how it was meant to unfold but if the protag was from the same world as the rest of the pokemon series and not the another world as the mega evolution world why not just let dialga do it unless it is that important or because dialga cant speak or use telepathy as arceus can
Is it Canon that Weirdeer are killed for their fur or are they just treated like mareep or wooloo?
If that was the case, then we’d see them somewhere, right? But we don’t.
Hm, according to the main site:
_"It grows much larger when it evolves, and garments with the fur _*_shed from its beard, tail, and legs_*_ are highly prized for their top-notch protection against the cold."_
Hey patterz, you should react to more of matpats Pokémon theories if you haven’t already seen them
18:51 basically any isekai anime
As say in mattpat video, it's not are fault we got send to the past and all the blame and fault is on Arceus.
Omnipotent and all knowing... Different things... One means you can do anything the other that you know everything
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