please comment any feedback you have about this video !! it's helpful and also algorithm lol also a few very tiny "corrections": 3:25 - wrong update screenshot i think? 5:42 - "a few months after" more like multiple Years after the first 7dg
fr, we just need more youtube content imo. I’ve honestly been thinking of making like tutorials and stuff for tech or maybe hard rooms but i lack video editing skills and time/energy lol
my opinion on golden rooms is that it's just an extension of final room syndrome. The golden is likely the final final thing you'll ever do in the map, so some creators feel the need to keep you just a bit longer. Also, choking on a golden room feels terrible, even a tiny chance of that isn't worth a super extra bonus final conclusion. If you want a golden room-like experience, try just changing the dialogue, or making a museum of sorts, or a thanks for playing room. Don't have an extra challenge.
Something that the vanilla game got right that modders may have lost sight of is having restraint with what you add. The original golden room in Farewell is interesting because it's a surprising, one-off thing. But if it becomes common in maps and the mechanic is fleshed out as far as you can take it, that cheapens the idea.
fun fact, I toyed with the idea of a golden room in cosmic column c-side, but ultimately ended up scrapping it because the ending was already pretty climactic and there wasn't really a good reason why there should be a golden room. While messing with ideas, I did make a very silly room that still exists in the debug map though (which was definitely too harsh for a golden room but I decided it was funny so kept it)
15:31 9D actually technically has this in its platinum run. After reuni, there is usually a mandatory death-warp to start PONR (the start of the map’s recon section) but when you have a platinum there’s a block placed that allows you to skip it, pretty neat
Damn you really did your research lmao. Great watch. So many golden rooms I didnt know about, and I definitely did not expect to see rush+ golden room on there.
7:05 NO WAY I’M FAMOUS! Jokes aside, this was a good video. I’m also curious how golden rooms would be different if Farewell hadn’t introduced them. As for Open Sea, it gives you a bino at the start of the silver room so you can analyze the room when you get there, but the room does feel a bit difficult to execute on a first attempt. Since the map is so short though, it’s a nice additional challenge and is funny.
great vid! didn't even know golden rooms were a thing so its cool to learn about them. i really enjoyed this (and the crystal garden one too) video! good video :33 Damn you really did your research lmao. Great two watches. I’m happy that we’re finally getting modded Celeste video essays, the community is so talented and deserves it.
I feel at least partially called out by some of these points, somehow i have managed to create all three types of gooms, Move Swap temple (You Can Say This One Is Unsightreadable but i recently changed it to be, not awful), Glitch (a golden room for the sake of a golden room, i made this one because i wanted to give my viewers watching me do the golden a heart attack, its a pretty bad room but i'm really happy with how it ends) Predator Pineway (This map hasnt released yet but it has a congratulations golden room) oh yeah how could i forget [REDACTED] has [REDACTED] But yeah great video am gonna sub because you make good celeste modding documentries and stuff also btw pretty sure solaris does do something non goom if you have the golden, dont all the cutscenes dissapear, but also the "is that fire" dialog becomes ... right?
I've only made one map, but I like to make a hard room behind the start of the map that holds the golden berry; So you have to do a challenge room before starting attempts. (It gives a re-spawn, so you only have to clear the gold room once, for any number of concurrent attempts.) It has some drawbacks, but is also a great way to implement a room that would otherwise be a bit to hard for a normal strawberry.
That idea makes a lot more sense & could potentially even help mitigate the difficulty gap between beating a long level normally & beating it deathless, which is the main thing that's likely to make a player lose interest in golden strawberries. Normally, there's no interesting goal between beating a level normally & beating it deathless, which can make getting the hardest golden strawberries such a grind that it wouldn't even feel climactic to someone who's not extraordinarily patient.
I haven’t even golded Farewell yet but seeing the golden room awakes a sense of deep anxiety 😅 Great video btw! In my eyes, this is the perfect type of content: entertaining, engaging, but not constantly needing to throw stuff in your face to do that. Great job hitting the sweet spot! You’ve earned a subscribe
This video is so cool and it really shows everything the modded deathless comunity has done and is doing, i already thought cg video was good but that’s on another level
I remember Arphimigon's 6D forcing you through the badeline fight sequence if you have the golden, which is otherwise a part that's entirely optional. When Arphi added that forced route, the wall blocking you from the easy path was skippable though, making that golden much easier than it was supposed to be. It was quickly patched though :D
IF i make a map wIth a gold room, im going to make it optional, and have a three path way thing, one for credits, one for the heart, and one for the gold room (and yes im going to label them)
@@xomvoid_akaluchiru_987 you say that but i've made maps under the assumption that no one would golden them. atm i have a wip map where death warping is part of the intended pathway. so.. that one's not getting goldened lmao.
@@snolls105 death warping is part of double moon berry golden, it doesn't lose the golden strawberry. I haven't done any level editing but I'm sure you can ask someone how to add it :)
@@xomvoid_akaluchiru_987 nah, the map has other shit going on that also breaks goldens that would also be too much of an issue. alongside that, plus the death warping is, like, very frequent. like roughly once every other room has something going on that would cause technical difficulties for golden berry. so, not really worth the effort for a map where only a handful of people would be insane enough to consider attempting if even. (shrugs)
i think it would have been really funny if golden rooms werent a thing yet and someone just had the idea. like someone spends 20 hours on a golden and then theres just a nother room theyve never seen before
Ik im really late, but that was an amazing video :) I think it would be fun If you made a video about about final room syndrome, considering it happens in so many maps nowadays.
yooo the goat is BACK dropping heat once again 🔥 i really enjoyed this video, i also didnt know much about golden rooms other than the fact that they exist and farewell started the trend, so i would say the video served its purpose well! this video to me was better than the last, which is super cool to see the improvement already! really good video once again and cant wait to see the next once it drops, well done man 👍 (p.s. i got celeste because of the CG video and im doing 7B golden rn :D)
Cant believe you transcribed celecte modded done deathless into a video (it is a really cool showcase of how goldens are often treated in maps though, good job!) Also while we're on the subject when are you going to explore the golden room in farewell with the funny berry
just wanted to say your videos are awesome and cool and awesome and cool and awesome and i love them and was mildly inspired by them specifcally for this video lmao thanks
i wasn't gonna add a golden room to my map but i will now actually because i want to make it a pretty cool room if i can make it work, if not i'll see what i can do to make it good, but yknow
so a map i made has 2 rooms. one is an hour long, the other is 30 minutes long. someone died in essentially the final few seconds of the golden run *and then asked me to add a 30 minute golden room* 😭 so now that map has a 30 minute golden room too. bless. th-cam.com/video/lKdV2ojufMA/w-d-xo.html is the video of that 💀
An extra unmentioned room in a golden strawberry run is a great way to remove all the satisfaction from eventually getting the golden strawberry. You won. You did the challenge. And then they just take it away after you already succeeded. As for using tools to practice in advance, that just highlights what a disrespectful & garbage concept the golden rooms where you can actually die already inherently are. Playing them without practicing them is unreasonable. If the only reasonable way to do something removes the whole point of its existence, the dev should've just left it out. Imagine if you finished an all SSS run of Devil May Cry 3 & then the game autosaved & put you in an entirely new room where you have to fight some scythe enemies & you won but you got a SS so the game just put you back on the title screen & when you checked your save, all your ranks were blank. Capcom employee's lives would be in danger.
it'd be really funny to have a golden room that just straight-up wasn't possible. "oh you want a golden berry? *no.* " (disclaimer: please do not do this)
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please comment any feedback you have about this video !! it's helpful and also algorithm lol
also a few very tiny "corrections":
3:25 - wrong update screenshot i think?
5:42 - "a few months after" more like multiple Years after the first 7dg
I’m happy that we’re finally getting modded Celeste video essays, the community is so talented and deserves it.
fr, we just need more youtube content imo. I’ve honestly been thinking of making like tutorials and stuff for tech or maybe hard rooms but i lack video editing skills and time/energy lol
hi lira
3:33 donker.. DONKER.. YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME
Classic
Imagine if Farewell didn't have a golden room and the final room was just gold tinted. That would have been arguably more stressful.
just tint the whole map. our eyes must suffer for our hubris
my opinion on golden rooms is that it's just an extension of final room syndrome. The golden is likely the final final thing you'll ever do in the map, so some creators feel the need to keep you just a bit longer.
Also, choking on a golden room feels terrible, even a tiny chance of that isn't worth a super extra bonus final conclusion. If you want a golden room-like experience, try just changing the dialogue, or making a museum of sorts, or a thanks for playing room. Don't have an extra challenge.
golden room that just says “f*** you” and forces you to gamble
you're golden in my room seaze 💜
Something that the vanilla game got right that modders may have lost sight of is having restraint with what you add. The original golden room in Farewell is interesting because it's a surprising, one-off thing. But if it becomes common in maps and the mechanic is fleshed out as far as you can take it, that cheapens the idea.
11:08
"How many references can you put in the map's golden room?"
"yes."
fun fact, I toyed with the idea of a golden room in cosmic column c-side, but ultimately ended up scrapping it because the ending was already pretty climactic and there wasn't really a good reason why there should be a golden room. While messing with ideas, I did make a very silly room that still exists in the debug map though (which was definitely too harsh for a golden room but I decided it was funny so kept it)
8:17 also worth mentioning that the plat rooms also have callbacks to the e-sides! (Which can be found in the museum campaign within the D-Sides mod)
not rly tbh
That singing video of Markass is LITTERALLY bonus.
"Mark that's bonus, that's bonus Mark that's bonus"
15:31
9D actually technically has this in its platinum run. After reuni, there is usually a mandatory death-warp to start PONR (the start of the map’s recon section) but when you have a platinum there’s a block placed that allows you to skip it, pretty neat
yea i forgot about that, pretty epic
14:19 the best golden room of all time fr
Nah, 3:08 is...
Damn you really did your research lmao. Great watch. So many golden rooms I didnt know about, and I definitely did not expect to see rush+ golden room on there.
7:05 NO WAY I’M FAMOUS! Jokes aside, this was a good video. I’m also curious how golden rooms would be different if Farewell hadn’t introduced them. As for Open Sea, it gives you a bino at the start of the silver room so you can analyze the room when you get there, but the room does feel a bit difficult to execute on a first attempt. Since the map is so short though, it’s a nice additional challenge and is funny.
I just love your Celeste content! You’re such a great creator!
great vid! didn't even know golden rooms were a thing so its cool to learn about them. i really enjoyed this (and the crystal garden one too) video! good video :33 Damn you really did your research lmao. Great two watches.
I’m happy that we’re finally getting modded Celeste video essays, the community is so talented and deserves it.
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I feel at least partially called out by some of these points, somehow i have managed to create all three types of gooms, Move Swap temple (You Can Say This One Is Unsightreadable but i recently changed it to be, not awful), Glitch (a golden room for the sake of a golden room, i made this one because i wanted to give my viewers watching me do the golden a heart attack, its a pretty bad room but i'm really happy with how it ends) Predator Pineway (This map hasnt released yet but it has a congratulations golden room) oh yeah how could i forget [REDACTED] has [REDACTED]
But yeah great video am gonna sub because you make good celeste modding documentries and stuff
also btw pretty sure solaris does do something non goom if you have the golden, dont all the cutscenes dissapear, but also the "is that fire" dialog becomes ... right?
oh yeah i completely forgot about those solaris changes, i shouldve included but it didnt feel relevant enough
also ty
@@seazeiscoolalso one other golden thing is the whole farewell double collect stuff
@@comet_system not very relevant but yea ig
get called out noob
"gooms"
oh ffs i hate this, this community drives me insane sometimes lmao
I've only made one map, but I like to make a hard room behind the start of the map that holds the golden berry; So you have to do a challenge room before starting attempts. (It gives a re-spawn, so you only have to clear the gold room once, for any number of concurrent attempts.) It has some drawbacks, but is also a great way to implement a room that would otherwise be a bit to hard for a normal strawberry.
That idea makes a lot more sense & could potentially even help mitigate the difficulty gap between beating a long level normally & beating it deathless, which is the main thing that's likely to make a player lose interest in golden strawberries. Normally, there's no interesting goal between beating a level normally & beating it deathless, which can make getting the hardest golden strawberries such a grind that it wouldn't even feel climactic to someone who's not extraordinarily patient.
My god, this community is so talented the mods legitimately competes with other whole games!! -sincerely Uel
awesome video! love to see thoughtful & informative videos on modded celeste
touhoe
14:07 OMG CFM MENTIONED GRAAAH PEAK GM MAP ‼‼
Real
Finally bro I would’ve watched it the day it came out but I was on vacation
I LOVE CELESTE CONTENT
I haven’t even golded Farewell yet but seeing the golden room awakes a sense of deep anxiety 😅
Great video btw! In my eyes, this is the perfect type of content: entertaining, engaging, but not constantly needing to throw stuff in your face to do that. Great job hitting the sweet spot! You’ve earned a subscribe
Your content is one of a kind, thanks for making it!
this video is the most informative video about celeste goldens i ever seen
great vid! didn't even know golden rooms were a thing so its cool to learn about them
This video is so cool and it really shows everything the modded deathless comunity has done and is doing, i already thought cg video was good but that’s on another level
I remember Arphimigon's 6D forcing you through the badeline fight sequence if you have the golden, which is otherwise a part that's entirely optional. When Arphi added that forced route, the wall blocking you from the easy path was skippable though, making that golden much easier than it was supposed to be. It was quickly patched though :D
actually just goldens in arphis d sides are cursed especially 3d lmao
IF i make a map wIth a gold room, im going to make it optional, and have a three path way thing, one for credits, one for the heart, and one for the gold room (and yes im going to label them)
love seeing more celeste content, especially modded stuff! this was very interesting, lovely video! also i appreciate the captions :)
I never even knew golden rooms were a thing, and the fact that there's one in the base game.
Loved this video!
i really enjoyed this (and the crystal garden one too) video! i really hope youll make more edited celeste content like this cause its awesome
I wonder how many joke golden rooms are built off the premise of "no one would be dumb enough to golden this map."
There's a golden of tower lxvi, every map maker knows that shit is getting golden if the map is good enough.
@@xomvoid_akaluchiru_987 you say that but i've made maps under the assumption that no one would golden them. atm i have a wip map where death warping is part of the intended pathway. so.. that one's not getting goldened lmao.
@@snolls105 death warping is part of double moon berry golden, it doesn't lose the golden strawberry. I haven't done any level editing but I'm sure you can ask someone how to add it :)
@@xomvoid_akaluchiru_987 nah, the map has other shit going on that also breaks goldens that would also be too much of an issue. alongside that, plus the death warping is, like, very frequent. like roughly once every other room has something going on that would cause technical difficulties for golden berry. so, not really worth the effort for a map where only a handful of people would be insane enough to consider attempting if even. (shrugs)
i think it would have been really funny if golden rooms werent a thing yet and someone just had the idea. like someone spends 20 hours on a golden and then theres just a nother room theyve never seen before
Ik im really late, but that was an amazing video :) I think it would be fun If you made a video about about final room syndrome, considering it happens in so many maps nowadays.
thanks, dont think final room syndrome would make for an interesting video probably i dont have enough to talk about on it
I love your long celeste modded videos
yooo the goat is BACK dropping heat once again 🔥
i really enjoyed this video, i also didnt know much about golden rooms other than the fact that they exist and farewell started the trend, so i would say the video served its purpose well!
this video to me was better than the last, which is super cool to see the improvement already!
really good video once again and cant wait to see the next once it drops, well done man 👍
(p.s. i got celeste because of the CG video and im doing 7B golden rn :D)
no way its pog from jump king discord
Cant believe you transcribed celecte modded done deathless into a video (it is a really cool showcase of how goldens are often treated in maps though, good job!)
Also while we're on the subject when are you going to explore the golden room in farewell with the funny berry
wdym by that last sentence, im not doing that golden its boring
Love this video!
I love these types of videos
this was a great video, you cooked with this one
15:38 9dp does this at the end of reconciliation :3
Enjoyable video
just wanted to say your videos are awesome and cool and awesome and cool and awesome and i love them and was mildly inspired by them specifcally for this video lmao thanks
@@seazeiscool
thanks for the subtitles ! super helpful
I can't believe arphi murdered Core of the Sun...
15:38 there are platinum blocks in 9d to avoid the forced death in recon
yes i believe (or a detach trigger idk i didnt check)
15:27 madeline goes to space!!!!! (Executed SO badly)
th-cam.com/video/kQiXPhfi3fc/w-d-xo.html :3
i wasn't gonna add a golden room to my map but i will now actually because i want to make it a pretty cool room if i can make it work, if not i'll see what i can do to make it good, but yknow
banger video! super fecta loves you
I both love and hate to death the fcg rooms in stellaris
good vid seaze
14:25 Shoutouts to Markass
Wow! You seem to really want to give people heart attacks!
i thought this would be a mid video then i saw avian ascension hella based
cfm golden room my beloved
the first link sent me to a video called "Minecraft Music Disk - 13"
I honestly love these kinds of videos, keep up the amazing work ❤
WAIT-
WHY AT 1:02 IS THE MUSIC WORLDS END VALENTINE FROM OMORI LOLLL
jash is literally a character from omori lol
@@seazeiscool i know
good video!!
so a map i made has 2 rooms. one is an hour long, the other is 30 minutes long.
someone died in essentially the final few seconds of the golden run *and then asked me to add a 30 minute golden room* 😭
so now that map has a 30 minute golden room too. bless.
th-cam.com/video/lKdV2ojufMA/w-d-xo.html is the video of that 💀
without even clicking the video i know the map
i'm keeping the shatter site golden room lmao
An extra unmentioned room in a golden strawberry run is a great way to remove all the satisfaction from eventually getting the golden strawberry. You won. You did the challenge. And then they just take it away after you already succeeded.
As for using tools to practice in advance, that just highlights what a disrespectful & garbage concept the golden rooms where you can actually die already inherently are. Playing them without practicing them is unreasonable. If the only reasonable way to do something removes the whole point of its existence, the dev should've just left it out.
Imagine if you finished an all SSS run of Devil May Cry 3 & then the game autosaved & put you in an entirely new room where you have to fight some scythe enemies & you won but you got a SS so the game just put you back on the title screen & when you checked your save, all your ranks were blank. Capcom employee's lives would be in danger.
oh hell yea this makes me want to make celeste map one day (i suck at the game though)
though i made a couple absolute banger terraria parkour maps (according to my own standards) so who knows i finish a celeste map one day
Go for it, i am a person who had a lot of time with mm2’s editor and celeste lonn is kinda that actually
Holy shit it's jash from omor
it'd be really funny to have a golden room that just straight-up wasn't possible. "oh you want a golden berry? *no.* "
(disclaimer: please do not do this)
6:16 to be fair, that golden room was just a joke without an intent of someone getting there with a golden berry (feel free to correct me though)
Amazing presencetation, very unferrated!
Why did you unlist your gd videos? They were actually good
nope
Uhmmm excuse me.... PLATINUM ROOMS?!?!?!?! 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 -sincerely Uel
MAC FOOTAGE?
as in the footage is recorded on macOS? yea
hi cool person :)
Jash omori
jash omori
Ohhh great video 👍👍👍👍