The J-20 is CHINA's AIR FORCE jewel BUT if you DIG a bit ...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- The J-20 is one of the crown jewels of China's Air Force. Despite its appearance, though, it has a particular mission. Or, at least this is what analysts think of the J-20.
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But if you trolls dig a bit you don't know nothing about anything only fake news😂😃😆DIZ!
@@zeblanmaidaynovich796 Is it? So let's hear your views. 😉 😜
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The CCPs grand state of the art copy of an F22, the J20 with a foot print of a B-52 Stratofortress and the speed of a A-10 Warthog/Thundebolt 2 lol 👏🏼 Mediocre CCP as expected..🤷🏻♂️
I hate you lol ! That elephant scared the crap out of me 😂🤣 1:56am here in Australia
I know we're all serious aviation analysts here... but does anyone else secretly want to see Otis have a friendly argument with Binkov's sock puppet?
Tell Binkov! I am sure Otis will happily oblige! 😆
Kudos for creating this character. It adds value to your lore.
@@JAnx01 Yah, until AI takes over everything. Soon he'll be the only remaining presenter!
Nah Binkov's analysis is a joke
@@marcbrasse747 “And I for one welcome our new Otis overlord…” 😜
It's a plane that fits China's needs. a long range interceptor with large internal bay to carry multiple PL-15s. A squadron of them can quickly overwhelm opponent airforces with a surprise attack of dozens of PL-15s from 200kms and beyond. Then the rest of the work can be left to the more agile and cheaper Chinese flankers(j11 and su-35) or J-10s.
is not stealth, underpowered....a fraud
@@vascoespañol paper made, just like your brain
@@vascoespañol lie, lie, ... and lie
Go spread falsehoods elsewhere.
@@truenews8357 It is underpowered and the steal is questionable.
@@sean70729 You're trying to tell me a top speed of mach 2 and a thrust to weight ratio higher than 1 is underpowered?
What are you smoking?
13:09 - When I first started reading about this aircraft several years ago I didn't see a plane designed to go toe-to-toe with a Raptor or Flanker, but as you said an interceptor meant to snipe AWACs and tankers.
This assessment of the J-20's role was floating on the internet from the very first sighting of the aircraft. It's big, it's fast and it has a relatively low radar cross section from the frontal aspect. Little babies could predict that the J-20 was designed as a high value target (HVT) terminator. But the USAF wasn't too worried about the J-20 until the information of the newly developed very long range a2a missile surfaced. The P-21 a2a missile with an estimated range of over 150-180 miles got the Pentagon worried since this type of missile has a capability to take down slow and lumbering targets at those distances. Targets like the AWACS and tankers. USAF is tackling the problem of AWACS by making the F-35 a miniature AWACS of a kind, but the problem of tankers won't be solved until K-Y program, or the next gen stealthy tanker becomes a reality. Until then our front line fighters will have to take down the incoming J-20s with the soon to be operational AIM-260 long range a2a missile. That's a short term solution. In the mid term AFRL is developing an even longer range air to air missile called the LREW or the long range engagement weapon. Just recently Boeing revealed it's competitor for this extremely long range missile family called Long range air to air missile or LRAAM (yeah I know, very inventive naming). Both of these missiles have two stage rocket motors with the first stage falling of after using up its fuel. In this category we're talking about ranges exceeding 250-300 miles.. Truly amazing.
and launch anti radiation missiles a lot of them
I know your comment was made 2yrs back but this is a dated assessment as it's now widely believed to be an air superiority fighter.
The stealth and BVR missiles along with its long range makes it a perfect asset over the pacific against other fighters.
A stealth fighter capable of penetrating deep enough to down an AWACs or tanker is a scary proposition.
The best informative J-20 video on the web... Without the fanboyism or other bias. Facts. Loved it! Thanks.
thank you for making this fantastic video about the mysterious J-20, I know it wasn't easy and I really appreciate the work you put in this, just make sure OTIS didn't do any illegal hacking.......again
Easy if you understand Chinese. Tons of info in Chinese.
Great analysis, Finally, someone on TH-cam debunked the notion that Canards are inherently unstealthily
When aligned and designed at the right angle relative to the body of the fighter, then it's just another control surface.
From the flight demonstrations in airshows, even in tight maneuvers the J-20 canards do not go beyond 5 degrees of deviation.
Many of the ASTOVL, MRF, and JAST designs had delta/canard wing layouts.
Inherently no but they're either compromising the canard as a control surface or the stealth or both. I suspect they're trying to do too many things an once.
@@LRRPFco52 US did not used Canards in their production fighters, because back in the early 1980, the flight control computers are still primitive, they can not handle complexity of the Canards added to the flight regime. It was only during the latter half of 1990's that computers were finally powerful enough.
@@michaelngan99 The US led the way with fly-by-wire digital flight control systems, and laid the foundation for DFLCS-controlled coupled and de-coupled canard flight control on multiple aircraft designs from no later than the very early 1970s.
The YF-4E fly-by-wire test vehicle was fitted with canards and electronic FLCS in 1972.
We jointly worked with our NATO partners on ECA/EFA, which became the EF Typhoon, with the international scientific exchange program to that effort already beginning in the late 1970s. How do I know? Because that's the whole reason my family PCS'd to West Germany to work on it at the Luftwaffe Flight Test Center near Munich, doing post-stall maneuvering flight control algorithms for ECA.
Then back at Edwards in the 1980s, I watched the X-29A test program while we were on B-1B and F-16C, and it had canards, and a triple-redundant DFLCS. First flight was 1984.
Then there was the F-15 STOL/MTD with canards, DFLCS, 2D TV, then MATV with F/A-18 H-stabs used as canards already in 1988.
Rockwell International also worked in-conjunction with the Germans on the X-31 at Edwards, which used B-1B guide vane spindle flight control systems, which were developed for the B-1A in the late 1960s and 1970s.
There wasn't a research center and institutional knowledge base anywhere in the world even close to the levels of test and accumulated actual flight data with DFLCS-driven canards as AFFTC.
I literally watched these programs develop in real-time on-site.
@@LRRPFco52 "The US led the way with fly-by-wire digital flight control systems" Yes, that might be so in the 1980's and 1990's, but China and Russia has catched up. Their J-20 and Su-57 have superelative performances.
0:54 The main wings look so far back, it almost makes the canards look like a tandem wing configuration.
"And I shorted the switch a long time ago, sir"
Oh dear.
would like to see a video on the FC-31 (or J-35) new carrier based stealth fighter. Thank you for your very enligthening videos !
J 20 looks alright, I like the old school jets though like the f-15 still look awesome, j 20 looks cool, but I'd take a murdered out eagle with my flag on it.
Sunday morning is not on until Otis appears. No surprise that he took measures to guard his power supply.
Love hearing the original audio theme introducing the Performance chapter. It's iconic.
One nitpick - I doubt that they would be using GPS for ordnance satellite guidance - I'd expect BDS there.
Great episode, wonderful work, lots to think about,
What you think about AMCA project?
@@thesatyajit7 I think it's a very ambitious project and I hope that it works out.
You don't build 200+ units of a plane to kill tankers.
And you don't leave the mission of hunting down F-35 to flankers.
J-20 fills the one and most obvious mission for PLAAF, total air dominance against F-22/F-35, simple as that.
J-20 has 26,000 lbs of internal fuel? *Wow*, that is 3,800 gallons of fuel! An F-22 is Fuel capacity: internal: 18,000 pounds (8,200 kilograms); F-22 with 2 external wing fuel tanks: 26,000 pounds (11,900 kilograms)
Last I heard, the 22 doesn't carry external stores.
@@icecold9511The F-22 can be equipped with four external pylons, two beneath each wing. These extra hardpoints are intended primarily for ferry missions, but each can be configured www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-22-weapons.htm
Yeah but that's probably because the engines aren't efficient
It is probable that J-20 could carry 12 tons of internal fuel plus 4 external fuel tanks. J-20 is 4 meter or 12 feet longer than F-22 from Nose to Nozzle.
J-20 is a bigger than F-22. More important is actual range rather than fuel capacity.
I assume it'll do exactly what F22's do. Including killing fighters. A flight of J-11's won't fare well against a flight of F-35's but adding a few J20's to the mix can change the risk tolerance a lot
Yeah no most fighters would pick up the j20 since it's stealth is suppose to be worse than su57
Oh you know what they say about assuming. Usually ends up making the assumer a fool. Just like it did now. The J-20 is a 4.5 Gen fighter. It can't touch the F-22. It's not stealthy or have the ability to supercruise. An Indian SU30 not only picked it up on radar, but also was able to track it which if the Inidan pilot wanted to, he could have fired a missile at it. It can no way turn with the F-22 either. 4th gen fighters like the F-15, F-16 and the F-18 are more or less on equal terms with the J-20. The only thing adding J-20 to a flight of J-11 will do against the F-35 is give it more targets to shoot at. It wouldn't change a thing other than what I just said. Hell the J-20 doesn't even have a gun which is a huge mistake. The US found out about that lesson way back in Vietnam. Dogfights weren't suppose to happen back then either but they did and will still happen. Being gunless is a fighter pilots nightmare.
@@t74guard78 yeah j20 can't even supercruise without the new engines and isn't manuverable enough then as u said it has no gun
@@t74guard78 and if the f22 went 1 circle it would beat the j20 but I don't know if it can outrate the f22 in a 2 circle but yeah the f22 is better than the j20
Also 1 more things the j20 look exactly like the mig44 I know some people are gonna say it was copied from the d22 but it's not only the stealth was copied from the f22 and f35 and yeah they didn't even copy it good cause it's stealth is not existent.
Good analysis, th scenario analysis is compelling, I am sure we shall find out more over time.
That elephant scared the shit out of me🤣
That elephant maked me jump. 👍 Aw, it seems that it dont have the EW that we see EFT has or Gripen E, F35 and so on. And yes its true that they all trying to solve the same issue with the same knowings. In a way its not all bad. So far you havent let us down. If we would know more of this we probably got to have a tailor made suite.
The Chinese aviation industry just 20 years ago was still making updated models of the J-7 (Mig-21).
Today, China has 250 x J-20 (each costing $100 million). They are also building J-35/J-16/J-10/JL-10/JL-9/Y-9/Y-20/KJ-2000/KJ-500/KJ-600/Zhi-18/Zhi-20/Zhi-19/Zhi-10 and various civilian aircraft and UAV and drones.
That is an amazing achievement by anyone's standards, and if they have achieved so much in such a short time, what will they be able to do in 10 or 20 years from now?
Picking faults, even though very little is known about the J-20 is a bit petty, because the fact that they have chosen to manufacture 200/250 already and are building 40-50+ every year, at the cost of $100,000,000 per aircraft is evidence of how capable it really is.
Holy crap 6:10 nearly gave me a fecking heart attack!!
I did not expect this from my usual, relaxing dose of Millennium 7 * HistoryTech videos!!!
Me too. Lol.
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You adressed the elephant in the room
great video but still a lot of unknowns because the Chinese govt won't let us know the full info I guess.
could you make a bit more detailed video about why canards are not seen as a stealth feature for the 5th gen aircraft?
I suspect the J20 WSO will sometimes be used on missions to shepherd a couple antiship drone truck vehicles ... Drone trucks comparable to a J20 but optimized to carry a huge internal hypersonic gliding antiship missile (no canopy, no cockpit, stripped down sensors, no radar, 3 or 4G max turn rate, etc). Also, the J20 WSO will likely manage mini drone swarms (possibly released by the loyal drone truck).
too many science fiction films for this guy
Gregory Caccivio ... stay bold, stay confident. That worked out real well for the Polish cavalry which boasted they were the best of any cavalry ... in 1939. And the House Armed Services Committee is not watching Sci Fi movies
I suspect it will never be used in any conflict whatsoever
"I suspect the J20 WSO will sometimes be used on missions to shepherd a couple antiship drone truck vehicles ..." Yes, there is now a two-seater J-20 for this role of commanding a swarm of drones.
One of the better analyses I’ve seen on the topic on TH-cam
As the tail-fins are all-moving they should be called rudders and the ones on the ventral side strakes as they don't move.
Yay, Firefox episode.
God that things beautiful, the configuration a fighter should be.
I think I will never get tired of the Elephant in the room joke. Please continue to do it.
When you see a team practicing for a game, they always make spectacular plays. The real test comes when the team meets a powerful opponent. Then, the boasting notwithstanding, the truth is revealed.
These are only plastic toys, if that's what you mean with your PhD.!
@@kamsingchoo4332 Iran recently revealed its "stealth fighter" but accidentally let a couple of reporters close enough to examine it. It was made of plywood and had no engine.
"No plan survives contact with the enemy" seems to make more sense every day.
This is already the video for 2022! The latest WS-10C engine has reached the thrust of the primary WS-15. The latest model of WS-15 engine has already achieved a thrust of 18.5 tons! And the lifespan of the engine has also been significantly improved. I didn't expect such great progress in just two years!
More indication that the Chinese military is heavily focused towards defense in a regional conflict, i.e. a deterrent force. Good news indeed.
Well produced, informative and entertaining... a real Hat Trick..
8:19 sir, you should have said to Otis: "What do you think our channel is, a War Thunder reddit page?!"🤣✌
J20 MTOW 81K pounds.
P38L MTOW 21,600 pounds.
F4 Phantom II MTOW: 61K pounds.
F22 MTOW: 83,500 pounds.
B17F MTOW: 65,500 pounds
Hughes H-4 Hercules "Spruce Goose" MTOW (estimated): 500,000 pounds.
That damn elephant scared the living daylights out of me! Thank you M7.
J20MIGHTYDRAGON is yes for real a revamped FB35LIGHTNING2
The irts is in front of the cockpit but is uncover. It rises up when deployed
I think this assumed lack of torsional rigidity should not been overestimated. The fuselages stealthy / flying body contouring towards the inner delta leading edges can be seen as extremely strong triangular pontoons running along both sides. Furthermore there seems to be a clear rib between bot weapons bays. It could also be the lower edge of a similar (semi--)triangular rib since weapons tend to be sort of round / cruciform in cross section. Of course all this seems rather unhealthy if one looks a things from the old stretched skin adagium but in reality things are never that simple. Trellis frames in motorcycles have proven the relativity of open sided chassis weight penalties ages ago. And as far as aircraft ere concerned. Ever heard of the Vickers Wellington? It's not known as a block of concrete either. :-)
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Why does everyone obsess about the LO of canards? They can be made of composite and the fuselage kept smooth.
"Why does everyone obsess about the LO of canards? " Because they are stupid, but like to pretend they are experts.
Fascinating video! I wonder if the wing design/lifting body configuration can be seen as having some design philosophy similar to the old J35 Draken or the F16XL?
The canard, all moving vertical tail, 3D TVC, wing design/lifting body configuration of J-20 is designed for the highest lift co-efficient, most efficient supercruising performance and extreme agility.
Quantity has a quality all its own. I wouldn't discount China so easily.
Wilbur and Orville Wright were on to something.
They used Canards and that's why they were the first one to take flight. Canards naturally compensate the pitching up tendency of the plane, so stall won't happen easily. Many early poineers were killed when their aircraft stalled in mid air, and crashed onto the ground.
There are more J20 videos released from Zhuhai Airshow in China
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Very good review. Yes, looks like J20 focuses on stealth, supersonic performance and range. Hit and run can still threat Su57 or even F22, especially the Su57 as its radar is not good enough. A smart decision as apparently China doesn't have proper engine for 5th gen fighter, for now.
Su75 puts a big focus on radar, it has very powerful radars. It just have very bad stealth in the same time. J20 would be a massive threat to the US navy.
@@stc2828 I feel like Navy's fighters are too slow... it's not good. Looks like su 75 is better than su 57 in terms of stealth. Actually, according to another video from this channel, su 57 has actually very smart design to fight stealth planes.
@@aarontan1810 Considering Russia would produce su57 at a rate of like 10 planes per year, I find it hard to believe they would have money to put su75 into service before it becomes obsolete.
it looks like..........................and what about now?
@Huang Jianhao “doesn't have proper engine” but why replace Russians, if WS15 not for 5th G Engine.
I like the way you have improved the lighting of your studio. May be a good idea if you publish generations and version numbers for your on video looks 😜
It make sense for J-20 to use for denied critical assets such as AWAC or tanker though. PLAAF know they are as disadventage in direct confrontation with USAF. But if they can cripple US support assets or limit their range. They can still maintain home adventage.
Their entire combat doctrine revolves around area denial only participating in events they already know they can win is deeply ingrained in the culture thus limiting the ability to think outside the box hence all the copying and taking a belligerent stance yet building a highly defensive military.
It will be quite a shock when the J-20 finds itself locked up by multiple UCAVS protecting the very assets it was designed to destroy.
@@sean70729 Ok, armchair general.
agree. and they builds tons of them so they can be all over western pacific in just a few years.It will limit american air power alot.
The combat radius of the J-20 says a lot about it being used for area access denial against large recon/surveillance and support aircraft.
It makes protecting those platforms even more taxing, so effectively presents a major deterrent force structure for counter-air.
It looks like the strategy of throw a lot at your opponent with large numbers of J20 and Flankers. Attrition is expected and planned for, a lot like the Korean ground war.
China has shown their capabilities of the journey to Mar just after 4/5 month after successful landing by USA and tested the six generation aircraft recently. This is one step advanced by China to fulfill the "Star Trek" series into reality.
Watching the J-20 pull it's max AOA is like watching an 80 year old lady trying to drift a front wheel drive car that pushes 50 HP
Airplane enthusiasts alike...
Here's my take:
let's just say that the configuration suggests that where there are F-106 Thunderchiefs, where there are A-5 Vigilantes, and where there are F-111 Aardvarks, there are or there have to be alternative systems *of the same gist behind it* where -- all forward bases i.e., Guam, Clark, Yoko, Okinawa, Adamant Islands, secretive QUAD sites in central/northern India are all placed in *COMBAT RANGE*.
Other words: nothing mysterious about this El Condor Pasa as it clearly is a beast designed for deep penetration destroy and destruct operations in the event a Dr. Strangelove of kind turns up in China's doorstep hence the Chinese have no choice *BUT TO MAKE ALL PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES and PREPARATIONS*....
We live in a dog eat dog world where operation dessert storms, operation enduring free.... free... cundems.... and operations al'Quadafi's seems to rein supreme. For that, I don't think anyone can blame the Chinese for what they are doing cuz, if we are in their shoes, we do no less...
So, blame it on the superpowers for building deadlier and deadlier killing machines when they should know that such a genie, if let out of the bottle, is never ever going to go back into it again -- EVER!
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I have still no idea how to rate this plane 2 years later It looks fast maybe even super cruise - what would that do to ram coatings? But what's in the nose, can it passively identify targets, can it coordinate as a 4 ship, I've no info on its capabilities beyond it looks good as a range patrol aircraft with reduced observability
I was just hoping you'd make this video when I saw the notification!
Awesome video. Interesting fighter concept. I was thinking is the J20 maybe similar to the Canadian Avro Arrow. OK this has canards and is stealthier given the J20 is a more of a recent fighter. What are your thoughts peeps?
In mission maybe.
I love AV Roe and the 105 and Dr. Floyd and at the time it was a triumph but no the Chinese did not copy a 62 year dead interceptor design.
J-20 just got the new WS-15 engine for super cruise and super manoeuvrability. also J-20 have shown to be superior to F-35 during their encounter over East China sea
this is a airframe of sukoi 47 berkut from russia the chinese make the wings difrent copy like always so as the sukoi 27, j11 30 33, j15 35 they give the buyd aircraft others electronics engines modifie the wings
J20, anti imperial beauty.. what a beautiful design and look. One of my favourite looking planes ever, along with Russian flanker and f22. And su57 of course. Russians make some badass looking jets and helicopters
sad that its a shite plane
Anti imperial? J20 is built to make them an empire. The chinese are already taking territory 1 salami slice at a time.
@@MA_KA_PA_TIE they haven't taken anything. No war for 40 years and counting, and even the ones before that were border disputes and not imperialist in nature. Even after beating India in 62, china left unilaterally and returned all the gains they made. Same as in north Korea after defeating usa, SK and 17 other UN countries, china went home and let north Korea be a sovereign country not a Chinese puppet or nk policy dictated by china. Compare with south Korea, occupied forever and a vassal state of usa. Same as Japan. China has 1, 2 oversea bases. Usa has 800. China spends less than 2% of it's gdp on military. Usa spends 4%+ and spends more than the next 10 countries combined, and those 10 countries are mainly US closest military allies with military treaties. China has anti imperial foreign policy and never has allies or small circles of influence, making coalitions(going around UN and ignoring international law, aka illegal bombings and invasions) to gang up and attack other countries.
Right now usa is bombing 7 countries as we speak, and they have been for the last 2-3 decades now. All those bombings are illegal. In the last 250 years, usa has been at war for all of them except for 17 years or so. That's imperialism. Not just because china built a few J20s to defend itself and counter usas own 5th gen fighters, and all usas allies surrounding china who usa is also arming with those jets and all advanced weaponry. Building anti china coalitions, trying to split china up and funding separatists, extremists, terrorist's, etc etc. That's imperialist, and that's what usa does nonstop since ww2 till now. Not china's possible war in your future which hasn't happened in 42 years and counting.
A few rocks/reefs under dispute in south china sea is nothing in the grand scheme of things and it's really about china defending itself from being contained by usa and its allies doing containment of china with the "first island chain strategy". Google it if you don't know what I'm talking about.
It was Philippines and Vietnam which militarized and stole all the islands to begin with. Of course china needs to defend it's rightful territory. There's a reason why usa didn't support Vietnam or phillipines even though the dispute has been going for decades now. There's a reason even taiwan has the same claims as china, but even BIGGER. That's because chinas claims are legitimate and backed by history and facts.
@@ex0duzz thats a lot of typing for 50 cent.
@@ex0duzz the US can have that many bases on foreign soil because they have strong reliable allies arround the world. China's only real ally is a hermit kingdom.
Aww yeah, talk aerodynamics to me, baby.
You startled me with the elephant
At the end,it all comes down to the pilot
Love your videos!
I am really not convinced with the design approach !!! Quite, doubtful that did they even tried out a simulation with full weight in high G.
The air foil configuration of j10 in this video has stealth performance issue. When vertical fin take root overlapping the main wing can create a corner reflector model compromises its RCS. Do a comparison with US war planes to draw yours own conclusion.
The J20 doesn't have the advanced avionics/fly by wire required to ditch the canards.
*Amazing videos, great thanks to you!!!*
History repeats no guns(cannon), clearly they forgot the Yanks and the F4 mistake.
That's why Flankers exist
@@Antonio-wp8tt And also the J-10s
It will not be able to shoot down any planes or missiles without a rear gunner either
J-20 could very well be built on an hit and run doctrine. During one leaked training video, the instructor asked the pilot: “why do you dogfight with the J-20?”
Pilot: “Because I have superior high speed maneuverability.”
Instructor: “No, because you are in idiot!”
Of the following aircraft in Vietnam, which type had the most guns kills and which had the most missile kills? Also, which had the highest kill ratio?
F-4E (has 20mm M61 in the nose)
F-4D
F-4C
F-105D/F/G
F-4B/J (USN)
F-8 Crusader
Really the elephant in the room caused me to inspect the bottom of my cereal bowl as fast and violently as humanly possible........ There's milk on my ceiling
Apologies, I don't want to cause inconvenience.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech Please don't apologize I love your channel and I rather enjoy the unexpected even when a learning experience ends with me wiping the back of my legs
Otis: *talks about top secret stealth warplane*
CCP: - 100000 credit score
That's it? Nah, he is marked for life like the author of Red Roulette
Hey dude speaking of j 20 can you make a vidio about 1 seat jets and 2 seat jets about the difference between them plz do a vidio about it
the j-20 is amazing progress compaired how the china airforce was 10 years ago, in 10 years from now they will have very capable airforce with new better 6th gen planes.
Boy, that loud elephant stunt was confronting.
The aircraft seems to have been designed to attack bombers or tankers. It could be used to launch anti-ship missiles. But it is most assuredly not a fighter.
looks like a good interceptor
J20 is a pure air combat aircraft, basically abandoning dogfights to obtain beyond visual range and long range
why
J20 assault to clean up the battlefield use
Otis hacked my coinbase wallet. You owe me!
…is it just a step to something even more advanced, developed on their own.
It better be. Woe unto them if its not. India reported tracking the plane from way across the border. If that's the best they can do, they really shouldn't be asking to meet the raptor in the sky.
Right , tell me when has China has designed a innovative product.
@@stusanderson3111 Product innovation is just the tip of the iceberg, which they'll get to when the material conditions are right, namely when their per-capita PPP starts approaching Western levels. It's mostly a matter of demand for time and labour saving, and the incentive for market-making by identifying unfulfilled needs. They did just fine developing nukes, ASAT, hypersonic warheads, AESA radars, and indeed this highly distinctive stealth fighter airframe on their own. The idea that their lack of innovation for the consumer market is somehow indicative of their racial capacities is something people tell themselves to feel secure in their own indolence, all while the last 70 years of fundamental semiconductor breakthroughs since the invention of MOSFET, as an example, have been predominantly led by engineers of Asian descent.
@@sahelanthrope excuse me the u.s. created nuclear weapons in the spring of 1945,while Russia created theirs in the early 1950s which makes China duch a laggard. Talking nuclear weapons and hyper sonics is a fools game because if any superpower attacks another one ,it will be the end of this world !!! The question still has to be asked where is your innovation as Chip industry ......... opps thats right you don't have one because they have all gone bankrupt !!
@@sahelanthrope where is your luxury car industry ,you don't have any besides the companies bought by Geely . Next question where is your electronics industry ,sorry thats South Korean ,Germany or Japan for quality because your s is substandard that no one with money will buy .
Jump scare elephant , very Oct 31th ....
IF an aircraft is designed to be "stealth"
THEN, issues like manoeuvrability can be of lesser importance.
That is where leaving out YF-23 became a controversial decision.
You lay out conditions for "stealth" aircraft and choose a conventional plan....
IMHO
In terms of quality, the Chinese PLAAF is already superior to USAF. J10c>F16v, J16=F15ex, J20>F22/35, J16D>EA-18G, KJ500>E3, PL15>AIM120, PL10e=AIM9X. The only disadvantage is quantity.
Given so far Chinese soldiers cant win fights against Indian's while massively outnumbering them, their "quality" wont make up for shit. Paper Tigers are still just paper.
@@sylumgand urr, you mean in Bollywood movies?
@@tonglianheng Errr I mean the clashes on the border regions that spark up every couple months.
這是在說笑話嗎???
J20頂多和F16V同等級的東西而已
霹靂15根本垃圾中的垃圾
速度慢，體積大，準度差
人家老美是拼命把飛彈縮小，你們中共是拼命把飛彈做大
外掛飛彈是要怎麼隱身????
別再出來讓全世界看笑話了
@@IREXIC 看到你美国爸爸快不行了，你急了 。哈哈
That elephant gave me heart attack 😐😐
It also, according to this video, the torsional part of the fuselage may not last through long term use to keep it stealthy. Not that it really matters since they can just produce more at large number since they are China.
The large weapons bay could give it better weapons selections.
Firstly, I'd say that not even China can just crank out advanced fighters at a rate of 100s/month. Quite aside from the cost implications, there are going to be construction bottlenecks that no amount of just having a massive population can overcome. How many engines/month can they realistically produce? What about avionics packages (especially in light of the general shortage of quality chips they seem to be suffering)? What's their production capacity for the composite materials they need? Most importantly, how many of the advanced/specialised machine tools that are needed do they have? What about experienced, qualified operators for them?
Secondly, there's the issue of the most important component of any plane : the PL-1 (or "pilot", as they are sometimes known). The PLAAF is not known for the quality of its' training regime (and yes, they are improving it over time, but it still leaves much to be desired), and you'd think they'd want pretty much their best flying the J-20, one of their best aircraft. Even if you could theoretically replace the airframes, replacing the lost experience is a tall order (see : IJN, circa 1943)
@@talltroll7092 US population was double that of IJ during WW2. Today China's population is 5x that of the US.
@@nickl5658 Irrelevant. It could be 1,000x, or 1,000,000x larger, and it would still be just as hard to train an experienced pilot. Giving 1,000 pilots an hour of training will never yield one pilot with 1,000 hours of experience
The J20 is a very Cheap Copy of a Russian Mig Fighter, that have Stealth Body,
the elephant was scarier then the plane.....
Well at least he did not say " But if you DIG a bit........... deeper you find the blueprints of the F35 "
I don't know who said this but he is quite right that :
"China is just like North Korea but with a better camera work & better PR".😁
Largest population of any nation which means more smart people! They clearly have an obsession with engineering and can be quite unscrupulous in how they gather technology...we underestimate them at our peril
That person was the biggest fool then
@@carldavies4776 yeah that's my thoughts. While we are screaming bout our "freedoms","geezuss",and"guns". They are focused on education, engineering, and catching up. The most patriotic thing we could do right now is educate our kids, which we seem allergic to at the moment.
@@carldavies4776 more smart people that have not learned to think for themself.
@@gurgleblaster2282 absolutely agree
I don't think China is up to par with American engine technology !
This is one ugly fighter. It not as stealthy as American F-22 the indian military tracked one on regular radar.
About the RAM, there were multiple mentioning in some of the military enthusiast shows in Chinese. Without the specifics obviously...
I absolutely love these videos, really gives you a much better insight and some proper information about these jets, as always I appreciate you taking the time to put these together. I also find it quite fascinating that the Chinese are STILL using the Saturn AL31F engines for their 5th Gen fighter, that engine at one point would have powered every single Flanker in the Soviet Union at one point!
Nope. J-20 is now using WS-10C, the Chinese indigenous engine, with maximum thrust anywhere between 144KN ~ 155KN.
Truth to be told, China stopped buying Russian AL series engine At least 5yrs ago
@@donchen4906 because they have plenty of them already
"I also find it quite fascinating that the Chinese are STILL using the Saturn AL31F engines for their 5th Gen fighter" J-20 is using the third version of its powerful WS-15 engine. It never used the Russian AL-31F engine nor the indigenious WS-10 engine.
@@andrewhomo2461 PLAAF is still building hundreds of new fighters every year. Why would someone stock engine?
I think we need to test this in a real fight.
Actually it's a common rumour that even F-22 pilots go for the hills when seeing this thing in the vicinity...
I wouldn't want to be in any 4th Gen fighter or large support aircraft knowing that J-20s are in the AOR, since their combat radius is huge.
It's a strategic deterrent in that respect, since it threatens maritime patrol, EW, Recon, AWACS, tanker, and heavy lift aircraft.
@@rosomak8244 Opposite would be true. J-20s would be top priority targets in the ATO for Raptors and JSF before you could really do anything, which could turn into a drawn-out Stealth hunting Stealth air campaign with lots of stand-off, and a concerted effort to attrit them.
It follows China's military strategy of deterrence, while the whole of their society has been tasked with a total people's war of economic, political, cyber, information, and germ warfare against their main customer bases...not smart.
@@LRRPFco52 hhmhmhmhahahahah. We will see.
@@rosomak8244 , if a F-22 sees a J-20 in his vecinity then the J-20 would already be dead.
The Indian Air Force have confirmed that they can track the J20. So it is not that good apparently at stealth
Yes...... You are right
LMAO endians doesn't know is that, the j20 is flying with radar reflector.
Take those claims with a massive heaping pile of salt.
It usually takes a real combat sortie to confirm something like that. People were claiming F-35s were getting tracked when in reality they had their beacons on so that they COULD be found. Then they claimed Russian assets were tracking them in Syria... until an air strike package was sent in over S400s and they didn't detect shit.
I will not take the Chinese tech lightly. Under estimating a rival is a huge mistake a d we have to give the CCP props for getting this far in half the time.
@@nicator8380 more accurately the Indian military probably knew about it (it is standard practice that stealth planes in peace time during ferrying will always carry radar reflectors for safety of other aircrafts), it is just a matter of Indian media and fan boys not knowing about it.
I think the J-20 flying without enhancers would be throwing away capabilities before combat. The F-117,F-22,F-35 and B-2 all have them for training and local sorties.
I love the intro comedy
What comedy? Otis is a real AI developed in a Russian underground facility to work on human genetic, but it escaped through a dial up modem in 90s. Soon Otis was bored and created a human as apet in an Italian genetics lab in 2000. Yoday, we know that human as Millennium 7*.
The F -22 will make this piece of junk beg
The F-22 is also getting modernized
you make learning this stuff easy
I wonder when Otjs is starting to take over the world...
You can rivets. Rivet visibility is bad for stealth. Visibile panel gaps are bad for stealth.
@Milenium the real genius of the J-20 is the fact that pilots can order their own spare parts and upgrades on Ali-Express. 😁
I wonder what them front rudder wings are used for???
Definitely not an add on extras by the designers.
The J-20's flight manual was actually pretty easy to find.
(The Soko J-20 Kraguj)
canards is great, but it's really difficult too.
china did it. that's really awesome.
and i think the canards will be the future of jet fighter.
Pretty ugly "jewel"...
They should hire you, a youtuber "master"
Cold is much much greater than hot