This is The Best Flanker in the World
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- China J-11D is expected to be the best Flanker in the world. Before, the J-16 was supposed to be the best Flanker in the world.
Let's learn more about the J-11, the J-16, the J-15 and the other Chinese Flankers.
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China J-11D is expected to be the best Flanker in the world. Before, the J-16 was supposed to be the best Flanker in the world.
Let's learn more about the J-11, the J-16, the J-15 and the other Chinese Flankers.
#J11 #j16
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Again. Thank you for your hard work making this video and sharing your knowledge with us! Great video!
What a load of utter toosh. Is this why China sent su 35's to the south China sea and when Pelosi came ?
@John Grigg Try saying something remotely relevant you dipper
China has never offered any of its flanker variants on the international arms market as a concession to Russia. Russia was also not completely blameless in the way the original Su27 deal fell apart, there was extreme tardiness and unreliability on their part in the period of 1996 to the early 2000s due to the collapse of the USSR.
China announced itself that su 35's were in the air when Pelosi came and they were deployed to south China sea. This idea that these J fighters are better is just crap
Interesting
This might be true, but Chine always try to manufacture everthing by itself. They even do it when their own product is more expensive then an import product with compareable quality. They do it simply becauce they try to keep the money and the whole chain of economic value in China. Trust me I work with people from China since more than 15 years. They buy at the beginning, but as soon as they identify a real nead or market, they instandly try produce it in China.
Both see the bad points and disadvantage of each other, but still they try to work it out and stick togheter.
The deal failed because China still hasn't paid Russia for the flankers they received.
China did not COPY the Su-27 but acquired production license from Russia, which had stopped producing Su-27 at that time.
From what I heard, China bought the production right of Su-27 with a large amount of money. The amount of money is insane during that time. The only caveat is China can not resell those self built flankers.
Maybe they could resell the newer flanker derivatives and give Russia a cut. Actually, wondering whether the Su27s were actually bought from the Soviet Union (not Russia per se)
@@k.k.c8670 1996, so about 5 years after the collapse of the soviet union
@@92HazelMocha IIRC the negotiation started before the collapse.
@pm That was the Su-33 prototype that turned into J-15. The Su-27 themselves were bought from Russia.
@@zchen27 They got the SU-33 prototype blueprint from Ukraine to develop J-15.
My cousin is the weapon system officer on J16. He told me J16 is very capable fighter, he love his aircraft.
I'm still shocked that your numbers haven't reached six digits yet.
You're definitely on your way. One of my favorite things is finding amazing channels when they're youg and watching them grow.
You're like the Perun of aeronautics. Staggeringly in-depth analysis, and quality of content.
I get excited whenever I see a new video out from you. I've learned SO MUCH from this channel!
He's literally reading the Wikipedia page for you, not to mention he never even mentions his sources
Lol he is not.
Fighter Pilot Podcast is the best source about military aircrafts on the TH-cam.
There is no single Wikipedia page for this!
Sources are posted on Patreon and for members. It is one of the perks for those who support the channel.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech his name is pig bait id guess hes a troll...when your over the target...you get the flak...
I am from Bangladesh and one thing I can tell you that people who always search for great contents will be the one to find pages like these.
i like J-11 because of DCS, i'm amazed on its electro optical sensor which makes locking onto enemy somewhat stealthy.
@窜天猴 J-11B is my favorite also these flankers can use Modernized fox threes like the PL-15 with astonishing range
@窜天猴 unfortunately i can't actually play DCS because i can't afford good pc, but I've been watching contents about this game for years and learned so many things about DCS I've seen how it progress throughout these years hopefully soon i am able to play DCS and fly the J-11B
Like DCs pilots, Chinese pilots love the plane but hate the r27,77 missiles, that's how the j11 project begin
Hi! The DCS Su-27 version have the IRST that make lock targets 'stealthy', the problem is you cant fire the R-77 (but you can do it in the MiG-29S and track two targets at the same time (with TWS). The J-11A can fire the R-77 and the J-11B/15/16 etc of the chinese asset pack mod can launch the PL's missile family (they are great).
that's kinda weird to have IRIS-T on a Russian plane but it works so it's great
China and Flanker are completed each other, in one hand China aire force fill the gap of defence system before J10 and J20 come out, so they will not be complete defenceless for several years. (Also get the russian tech which was still consider advanced at that time). On the other hand, these deal really save the russian plane industry, it kept everything going in trouble time. Also Chinese user do giave a lot of valuable feedback about the technical details, eg. early Flanker's weak structure problem, these feedback also help the Russia to design and make Flanker better. A win-win situation for both.
The extra effort you've been adding to your videos is noticed and appreciated!
The breadth of these programmes is remarkable, in this case this is leveraging an already remarkable airframe for more capability, notably China going down the F15E tandem config for the A2G role vs the side by side of Su-34, probably influenced by the Su-24 and F-111 of the 70s. This doesn't stop them from carrying on with more fundamental aircraft development. I suppose not sacrificing current capabilities whilst developing future aircraft Bravo another interesting post.
The Tandem Configuration limits Pilot to WSO interaction to Audio, while the Side by Side help's immensly with the Workload, Communication, Systems Management. The Su-34 and the Ka-52 are the way for Russia. Impressive Aircraft both of them. The only Downside with the Su-34 is the rear visibility, but they have a Toilet instead :)
@@WanderfalkeAT You might have to ask operational pilots about that, all I seem to recall was that from a study of side by side v tandem in a 60's or even 50s was that side by side was psychologically advantageous for the crew's willingness to undertake and complete missions in the nuke role. Other than that virtually all modern fast jet attack aircraft in the NATO Inventory are tandem or even single seat (go figure) in any case if you missed the point of China's appropriation of the Flanker airframe for systems upgrades, it minimises the design risk if you don't radically change the airframe, I daresay that without an SU-34 to hand to develop a side-by-side variant for marginal operational advantage designing a wholly new duck bill cockpit for their attack aircraft would have been a pain, they took the less radical path of the tandem configuration.
I guess tandem better preserves the air superiority capabilities of the plane as well, making it more multi role.
@@WanderfalkeAT Never thought the Russians to be the ones that provide more crew comfort.
@@suisinghoraceho2403 Its also just less risk for the Chinese as they are just keeping the gross airframe configuration more or less the same so while they are upgrading systems they are not worrying about serious aerodynamic changes which will need to happen if they build a side by side cockpit (even if they have acces to the blueprints to an SU-34) they will need to not only reconfigure the forward control surfaces but also the changes to the flight control systems.
Two main fighter jet factories in China. Shenyang started with the Su-27 assembly and developed a series of flankers; Chendu started with Mig 21 and developed J7 serials, but they are not stopped there, they come up with the J10 serial and ultimately, the J20.
You are awesome, man! Just stumbled upon your channel recently. You are extremely knowledgeable! I’m learning a whole lot from your videos.
The most appreciate videos you made are not being biased. Most jet fighters analyst youtuber are acting very bias and double standard to Russia and China military capabilities. They were like all westren jet fighters are so super advance and China military fighter are crap... They only telling to what they subscriber like to hear but not the fact. Thanks to such good and educated videos you made.
@Bilbo Fappins how do you know ?
@Bilbo Fappins are they getting shot down yes
Are they getting shot down by 7.62 no
@Bilbo Fappins yeah yeah yeah yeah what ever you say... Bla bla bla....... You the smartest one. the rest human being on earth are idiots including me. Ok? Happy?
@Bilbo Fappins take your bad "osint" to reddit.
@Bilbo Fappins tf are you talking about?? Getting shot down by 7.62? This ain't call of duty
Again. Thank you for your hard work making this video and sharing your knowledge with us! Great video!
on the su35, Chinese wrote in the contract it needs to have the exact same avionics as the Russia's own version. they thought Russians broke the contract, because the electronic warfare was only on J-10A's level.
Seems fake but ok
@@abcdefgh-hz6pk J-10A's electronic warfare is much advanced than Su35, Su35 is still an clock shop version
Chinese microelectronics industry is definitely decades ahead of Russia
@@frankfleming1103 J-10A came out around 2007. China received su35's in 2016, although the contract was in 2012. They had high expectations because the original su27 made big leaps in electronic warfare.
@@corvoattano4777 Yes in producing refrigerators and coffee machines. Unlike Russian Army which has its own chip factory chinese doesnt have one. You need to distinguish between industrial, consumer and military electronics... They differ totally. By that logic Japan would have been mightest Army in the world. Also russian radar tech is decades ahead of chinese and even better the US
Another great one, thank you very much for making it!
I'm finding this channel remarkably helpful; thank you.
Dude. You are the best public domain aggregator of information on weapons systems I have seen on TH-cam. Your detail and workmanship is impressive. Thanks for another deep dive into the fascinating world of Russian and Russian derived Fighter aircraft.
If the training of the Chinese pilots and their tactics are worthy of this aircraft, the prospect of our fifth gen fighters facing a huge fleet of these and a significant number indigenous Chinese stealth fighters for intelligence and targeting is kind of frightening. I still have confidence that our Air Force and Navy can deal with them, but we may see some serious casualties in numbers we have not faced since Viet Nam. And the Chinese will have enough numbers to absorb significant casualties and still pose a threat.
Let’s just hope it doesn’t come to that, especially on the issue of Taiwan. The Chinese stance on the matter has always been maintaining political status quo whilst deepening commercial link. It is a fairly workable proposition for all parties involved.
@@suisinghoraceho2403 The Chinese position has always been "One day we will claim what is rightfully ours".
Would love a more detailed video on J-16D.
Amazing content. Enjoyed watching this video. 🙏🤲
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You are a part of a small group of TH-cam channels I rely on for information regarding aircraft and technology. Thank you for this excellent resource.
I think that intellectual rights do not apply to the military in any country. If your country has the ability to copy, you will copy whatever you can.
Totally agree, in wars there’s no rules, do whatever it takes win the war.
Ok little pinks
"INtellectual Property rights do not apply" seems to be an extraordinary position to take for "Allies Without Bounds" like China and Russia.
However, China holds the same position with customers, investors, suppliers, etc.
@@Rob_F8F China is showing the blueprint for all the formerly colonized countries to rise up from developing to developed. If the rest of the world waited for the west to help them without just taking what they needed, they'll just continue to be poor. You should never follow rules made from the people who steal the resources of the poor!
maybe pick up a book
J-11D has been under test for years and maybe we'll never produce them. Since a 4++gen fighter using 5th gen avionics can't be much cheaper than a 5th gen fighter and its air superiority capacity can never match a real 5th fighter. The fact is we choose to directly put J20 into mass production.
Btw, the reason why keep producing 4++gen J16s is that they are multi-role, having great payload, and are suitable for intercepting and long-range CAP missions because they have double seat, just like F15EX. A good parter of J20s.
Brilliant! Love this series.👍
Thank you for your knowledge, expertise, and insight. Much appreciated 🙏
Interesting detail I noticed. For the J-15Bs, the back wall of the radome is angled upwards (probably for stealth). I’m pretty sure that variant has even more internal changes.
The angled back wall suggests an AESA radar.
@@TangoLima1 Yes this is true as well. Although AESA can be mounted on vertical radome back wall too.
@@nitroxide17 Yes that is true. The angle of the back wall is not a pre-requisite to mount an AESA antenna (such as F-16 and F-15 ) but J-15B is a "new " design and the Chinese have taken the opportunity to work this feature into the "new " aircraft.
Great video as always 👌🏾
another great video but too short 😁.I look forward to this video all week, keep up great work.
Flanker is one prolific aircraft. From one Mother Flanker (MF), now there are hundreds and thousands of them. Strong DNA. China loves them.
What can you say, it's one of the best looking birds out there along with the f16 vipers in my opinion.
Your content and your English is superb, thumbs up and subscribed.
I like your new presentation style.
Your hovering flying torso is the most sophisticated
I’m glad your presentation on Chinese Flankers are accurate, bravo 👏
...keep going; you're doing an excellent job.
Love your content
I'm within a hairs breadth of building a DCS PC. Thank you GPU economy for finally toppling.
China bought Su-35S just to see and learn its capabilities and its flight characteristics and then improves their J-11 to match or exceeds Su-35S
The original purchase of su35 was to solve the production capacity problem of Chinese fighters. Some Russian made fighters with similar performance were used to replace the old su30, but the performance of su35s was poor
Most of u might wondering where is j11C, in fact the j15 was initially called J11C
The sheer industrial and economic might of the Chinese to develop such Flanker variants is not doubt something to be envious of.
Outside of Engines I am sure the Russians are especially envious.
Another excellent video M7.
Not as envious as the Americans who don’t believe any of this
@@johnm7267 that makes no sense
@@johnm7267 What do you mean?
Americans are well aware of all of this and I am sure they do respect it, same for Russia (even thoug the russian war articulations and logistics are bad).
China is not Iran.
Hi, I am a big fan of your videos. Have you considered making a video going into details about the Flanker and Fulcrum Aerodynamics and comparing it to the other Aerodynamics configurations most commonly used, such as The Canard Tailless Delta ?
I would love to see a video on flanker's aerodynamics and controls, lifting body seems interesting
Central lifting body layout? And the very effective side strip wing design? The flanker series has very good maneuverability at subsonic speeds, but the airplane is very large and falls into a "trap" at supersonic speeds. The Flanker has poor roll performance and the airframe structure is not strong enough. The latest su35s and j16 got rid of it by changing materials and redesigning the aircraft.
Keep up the good work!
Some people can't take the truth..
Very competent insight. Su-27 truly is a legend of aircraft evolution. Paired with chinese electronics, this may be the best fighter today omitting the stealth aspect. I somehow do not trust j-20 aerodynamically and while I think F22 was a TOP in its times, its time is over. The main thing in the end. What I want to say is that the way this post is made and Millenium's style overall is like talking to a friend over a beer. And well, I like that.
The F-22 is still on TOP
歼20挂载三个副油箱在3万多米的高空从中国西南飞到了中国东北！
Avionics on F22 is much worse than F35.
@@user-yi9ls5uf3v you should be crying
@@user-yi9ls5uf3v better place than you
Amazing video!!
Could you do one about Rotating Detonation Engine?
I'd love to see this, as long as it dosen't shake appart your pc while rendering ;)
Love seeing the Flanker, or whatever they make, or call it…or whatever it is that just looks like the “Flanker” getting the treatment it deserves from the Chinese.
Please talk about the Su 30MKI upgrades so far and about the planned future upgrades which was recently approved for 84 Su 30
The PLA Airforce has about 750 Flankers and the PLA Naval Aviation has around 150 (J-11/J-15/Su-30MK2).
900 of these very capable aircraft is a massive asset for the PLA forces.
Good vid
pretty cool
You should try to make a video on "How to identify which Flanker it is" ... those are visually so similar. Also how the Taiwan MoD knows what models they are when they report daily activities.
I am pretty sure they are guessing...😂
@@Millennium7HistoryTech Ha ok, lol
Visually I know there are some minor details, like whether it is twin seat or not, radome shape, canards (not always super visible from the side) etc ...
@@jwickerszh for chinese flankers u can kinda tell the difference by the paint scheme
@@ferrous3262 you can kinda tell a J16 regardless of paintjob because it's the only modern Su derivative with 2 seaters but without canards and the indigenous engines. Most other Su derivatives with 2 seats tend to have canards.
Good lord, that thumbnail is the kind of eyesore color combination I'd come up with 😂
OMG, finally the same conclusion as RUSI analysis
Flankers are my fav seires of aircraft, specifically the Su-37 Terminator.
Otis: "Sir, you forgot to feature me in this video. Don't you appreciate all the research I do for this channel, sir?"
Poor Otis.
Briliant documentairy
J15T will be on the type 003 soon
I think it would be of huge fun if India flankers were mentioned in this video.
Erm. J-11D is kinda considered dead as of now - there is an ongoing J-11 fleet upgrade instead.
Some notable features of J-11D surfaced on (currently developed) J-15B, but those are a different matter.
what's the music after 7 minutes?
Can you make a video about Russian/Soviet test aircraft?
it would be nice in my opinion since there are not so many videos out there..
it is almost a consensus now that no new j11d airframe will be produced, the technology however is being used to MLU j11b
I think plaaf keeps the sukhoi for going into international air space, for example when they go to Taiwan or close to other countries.
Do you have one on the SU-34?
J-11/15/16 Family: Flankers of Theseus
Ha! I got that reference as I am now an expert on Identity Philosophy after watching Wandavision. Cheers! 👍👍👍
When l can hear what you say it's very intresting.
My favorite of the extended flanker family are the SU-57 SU-47 and SU-34 you can we discuss the (last) in one or more future videos
I believe the J-11D project had been cancelled because J-16 is superior.
Instead most of J-11 B will be upgraded to J-11 BG.
You should really do a video on su30mki
Butthurt "copy" comments arriving in 3, 2, 1...
No they are not just copies. They are a new flanker family tree and the Chinese have actually perfected the flanker. It has been taken as far as it can go. At it's full development its kinematics and avionics and weapons systems make it dangerous for even fifth gen aircraft. The j-15b would wipe the floor with the f-18e/f. I wonder if the Chinese will use the electronic warfare elements of the j-16 on some j-15b fighters to answer for our growler.
@@jamesmandahl444 There are better EW suites than the growler, and I'm wondering if that's what they've put into the J11D
Looking forward to new Flanker videos. Though I prefer Russian Flankers :)
Now that the chinese will start producing carriers with catapults, are the original j15's canards still needed? They mostly add weight if they are not helpful for take offs anymore
They can still be used on the Liao Ning and Shan Dong which are not catapult capable.
@@davezgy1 i was refering to the new variant, but your point is valid
@@amp5275 guessing they can still use the newer J15 on the Type 003 as a transitional replacement of the older version before the J35 could scale to mass production. They could also use them for training new pilots for the upcoming carriers.
They may still be useful for landing though.
J15 catapults variant is J15T
Did not know Lidl made fighter jet
What I heard was that J-11D is not a newly produced variant, but rather an upgrade and life extension kit for existing J-11Bs.
j11d is new so far there seems to be two prototypes the upgrade for j11b is called j11bg
The "D" variant is their equivalent of the american F-18 "Growler"
@@theus663 u mean the j16 ?
@@ferrous3262 Yes, i always confuse them.
@@ferrous3262 I think that there actually is a J-11D variant that is designed for Electronic Warfare (like the J-16D version is).
the one on the thumbnail will be available next Thursday at your local Lidl :D more seriously, I'm not sure the chinese QC is better than the russian one so we (well, they) can expect some "surprises". Anyway, another great video! 👍
Is this based on any data or just your opinion that China can’t produce anything of quality… even though most of the electronics in your house and car are built there.
Find a close up pic of a Russian SU-27 and a Chinese J-11 as well as a U.S. F-15 and compare the build quality and finish of the three. The Chinese and US birds look high quality, the Russian one looks like it was built by drunk illiterate peasants.
Is your opinion of the Chinese quality control, based on recent experience in the Chinese aviation industrial facilities?
Or is it just based on obsolete information or assumptions?
China: Hell yeah the 980mm diam radar fairing
Also, Russia got Su 30SM2s. They will be able to control drones.
And j16D Growlers counterpart??
yes
Oh well, this is how I wrote it back then
Vasily looked up at chief Wu over his shoulder with an uneasy expression and said:" so... this is not just a localised 27?" And cheif Wu just shook his head while still bending down over the cockpit and his arm placed on the front frame:" no captain... this is a J11D... but trust me , it's far better than what you have in mind..."
Vasily leaned back on the seat and gritted his teeth:" it suddenly sounds like a bad idea to take this out for a combat patrol right off the bat..."
Chief Wu said:" no worries captain, all the damage has been repaired, even the seat is a whole new one..." Vasily looked up at him again:" that's not my... alright, I need a marker, and some paper tape... oh and, don't tell me this thing doesn't have any settings for interface markings other than chinese..."
Wu answered while already climbing down the ladder:" I have that flash memory somewhere if I can find it, I'msure it wasn't on the cargo plane that aliens shut down on our way down here... it won't take more than a couple of hours captain..."
What is this?
@@Millennium7HistoryTech a small portion from one of my more original ideas for a scifi novel, currently shelved and eating dust, mainly because back then my understanding of air combat and technology was criminaly miniscule so now that I have access to much better sources I rather do much more study on it, these days there is DCS, and some amazing channels like yours or aircraft interviews, or fighter pilot podcast etc that I draw information from, when I feel confident that I have a proper picture I sure should get back to it...
Basic idea is, around our current time in a slightly alternative history aliens invade earth and our hero, one captain Vasily "Kurshan" Pupov, a Su57 pilot stationed at Kamchatca gets caught in the air by the first wave of air battles aliens launch to secure their planet fall, then there is a journey all the way across the Asia so he can join what's left of soviet troops on the European side of things, I wrote it as far as Kyrgyzstan but that's as far as it ever flew 😉 it must end up somewhere between the things my god of military novels Tom Clancy writes and the character driven story telling of ace combat series... or so I hope it does...
@@sohrabroozbahani4700 All the best for your novel! Let me know the day you have it completed!
@@Millennium7HistoryTech sure sensei... thank you 😊
J-11（A/B/BS/BG）：350
J-16（A/D）：330
J-20（A/B）：210
SU-30（MKK/MK2）：100
J-15：50
SU-27（SK/UBK） ：40
SU-35S：24
Total 1104 As of February 2023
J-16 Using almost all the technology of J20, GaN radar, avionics, fire control, PL-15, WS-10C (enhanced version), composite materials such as titanium alloy and carbon fiber, stealth paint, it is a terrible 4.5 generation bomb truck!
You know too much!!!
I think at this point, Russia and China would actually work together on a common engine similar to how France SNECMA and US GE worked on their CFM engine.
fun fact ws-10 is actually a cfm-56 + Al31 afterburner now the performance is close to f-110 ge132.
Most of the current Chinese engine are base on the cfm-56 design
@@aliceWT yes, Chinese cann't cooperate with Russian, because Russia always want to take out an USSR old technology model, change another name, do nothing and let Chinese pay. Chinese alway want to put into large amounts of money, start from zero, and set an higher standard. CR929 will disband in the future. China and west's cooperate is much smooth
Garmin GPS inside 😂
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What about the engines in the J11D?
It uses WS-10
@@The136th WS-10 engines are underpowered, have low reliability, and no thrust vector capability. Customers of Chinese fighters demand Russian RD-93 and AL41 engines.
China is developing it for themselves. Anything they sell is just a bonus. China will get there eventually, along with ws-15. It's already better than al-31
The fact that china already uses them in the single engine j10 shows that it is mature and reliable enough already and China has already achieved what it needed to. and of course ss time goes on their expertise and quality will keep getting better. The engines are more than good enough for war time mass production already, everything else now is just a bonus.
@@ex0duzz AL31 was on old Su27, over 30 years ago.
All new fighters will have supercruise and thrust vector control.
@@ViceCoin that is just not true.
SU-27 components were found to be inconsistent from batch to batch,
so much so that they had to make it themselves just to get consistency.
By then, they found they have LOT OF ROOM to improve....just by getting the base line consistent.
( a few thing they can now tune )
Electronics from China were already ahead of Russia, hence changing to better radar is a given.
I wonder if Russia bought the J11 AND THEN REVERSE engineered it,....would Russian industry also improved ??
You improve yourself by benchmarking against someone better.
if you only complain then you will become the next India.
Is not the real issue with PRC "homegrown" aircraft their engines? aka WS-10 / WS-15 ?
The WS-10B/C had been good and reliable enough for two to three years now. The next is a vast capability upgrade from WS-15.
@@suisinghoraceho2403 Perhaps. But with a corresponding reduction in thrust compared to the original Russian engines, Chinese fighters with WS powerplants to date have been underpowered compared to their Russian counterparts.
The Flanker is the best designed fighter of Russia, but the best Flanker is made in China🤪
it's been a while
If they wouldn't reach those engines the avionics wouldn't save it from obsolescence. This airframe it's very interesting due to the amount of change in agility with thrust vectoring or even with those small canards.
The engine was already reached a few years ago. WS10 series has been standard on Chinese flanker with the B variant solving most reliability issues and the C variant improving it to SU35 thrust standards.
@@dabo5078 allow me to be cautious about those claims, I really doubt they achieved the figures of the latest Al 41 variants, the most serious analyst have reasons to believe that russian engines are only second to Americans who have the edge in this field. I buy it if you tell me that with afterburner they reach similar thrust figures but their lifespan or IR signature should not be as good.
@@josefranciscoramirez4438 Go search up the standards of ws10c. Secondly the Russian don’t have as money to maintain their r and d. The ws-15 which is equivalent class to the F22 engine in thrust had already gone under test flight with the j20 this may.
What is the difference between the j-11D vs the j-16
J-11D is EW variant of J-11 while J-16 is multi-role developed with knowledge gained from production of J-11 and join development of SU-30MKK. There also J-16D which is EW variant of J-16.
@@holystatic is the su30mkk, just like the j16, mostly a strike fighter (air to ground) primarily though while the j11B/D is more air superiority?
@@k.k.c8670 Yes, SU-30MKK were developed with intention to perform strike mission. Anyway, while J-16 are capable as both A2A and A2G, their roles in PLAAF right now are mainly air superiority that working together with J-20 (Think of it as missile truck like F-15EX).
J-11B are mainly air superiority with some of them upgraded with AESA rader (BG variant)
Basically, PLAAF follow some of USAF playbook. F-15C as dedicated A2A, F-15EX as missile truck to support F-35A.
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J11 VAR!ANTS IT'S F0R AIR SUPER!0R!TY AND INTERCEPT0RS
J16 VAR!ANTS IT'S F0R MULTI R0LE F!GHTERS JETS 0R F!GHTER LAND ATTACKS SUPP0RT
J11D AND J16D IT'S ELECTR0N!C WARFARE CAPAB!L!T!ES VAR!ANT
@@holystatic I actually think the J-11D is not the EW variant of J-11, as EW needs to be twin seat while J-11D is single seat.
It’s prob an air superiority variant, like the Su-35, but it was dropped in favor of J-20 and the older J-11B were upgraded to bring some specs to the J-11D instead. Now newer J-15 will be built using part of the J-11D technology.
Abou Su 27 kits bought from Russia, The Chinese called russia customer support with a big complaint: "Every time we try to assemble one of this kits we end up with a locomotive...Please help" Russia 🤣
we have yet to see WZ engines better than 117S that is on Su-35S
these flankers seemed like a stop gap measure. as soon they perfect the j-20 j35. they would probably stop producing the j-11 and j-16's.
J-16 is the GOAT among Flankers.
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Wait for the Super-Sukhoi upgrade of Indian Su30MKI.
It comes with a toilet?
@@publiccommentor5201 Nope.
No fighter jet comes with a toilet.
is the J11 better than the su 35?
Yes
The russian where so pissed, when the chinese reversed engineered the flanker
They bought the production rights of the SU27 if not the Russian defense industry would have collapsed the 90s.
SU35 é o melhor caça da atualidade!
The breadth of the Chinese flanker programme is indeed vast, though the age thing is a little inaccurate.
If we look at the USN, their oldest tactical aircraft is the Super Hornet from 1999, but AFIAK none of the Block I are still in service, with the oldest being just under 20 years old.
The USAF F-16 fleet has an average age of 17.2 years, so it’s older but not that old, and with the new upgrades for the Viper in the SABR radar I expect a breath of life into these aircraft.
The J-20, J-16 and J-10C are known as the Three Musketeers of the Chinese Air Force, similar to the American F-22, F-15 and F-16.😉
Yes, definitely on the same lines.
More like the F15EX and F15C because fellow 2 engines + the EX/J 16 is a 2 seater multi-role while the older C version/J 10C is a single seater dedicated air superiority
Chinese military exports are ramping up fast. Watch for when China exports military drone swarm systems. Look at DJI’s $14,000 M30K drone including excellent optics, night vision, precision lat long target mapping, Laser range finding and laser designator. Now add multiple specialized drones including snipers, shaped charge guided munition release and suicide drones with coordinated operations quickly dominating many square km in 1 predawn hour. For the price Germany is paying for one F35 ($240 million each when including everything but consumables and future upgrades), China will be able to offer 17,000 militarized drones comparable to the M30K.