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This was one of the biggest reasons why I quit. Every dungeon pug was focused on doing it at breakneck speed, trying to skip every single mob pack, and then people losing their shit if you accidentally pulled one.
@@mcfarvo Commenting here to echo your sentiment. BRD was the greatest dungeon ever imo. I absolutely Loved going there and I used to know every route through there by heart.
I was there at Blizzcon in 2017 (my first one live, came all the way from the UK!), I was sat about 15-20 feet from J.Allen Brack when he made the announcement. The hall erupted, whatever you heard on stream doesn't do it justice.
I wasn't there, and I'm definitely not the most passionate about vanilla WoW. But that announcement is right up there with Square Enix announcing the FF7 remake (FF7 being my all time favorite game). Something I had hoped would happen a few times over the years, but never actually expected to really happen. When this was announced... it was more emotional than I could understand why. I started playing at the end of TBC and release of WotLK, so this was a chance to experience a part of the game I had never experienced before. Still gives me major goosebumps to watch those announcements!
@@chreezy9383 It might be the case for him that he frequented reddit and forums where people were not expecting it and denied it or he is just very salty for blizzard activision ruining a game he fell in love with and hasnt gotten over it yet. He will get over it eventually, as should we.
@@chreezy9383 The thing, the people that are invested in the game, to the point of watching videos about it, saw it coming The dumbasses that feed into this system didn't, because they're just that dull it's like the people who keep, playing nowadays, after years decades of playing, and see nothing wrong with either the game or blizzard
Sorry for your loss, my family has suffered losses recently as well. Glad the videos have been a good distraction, I think that can be healthy. Good luck dude and thanks for watching
@@carnifexia1725 Turtle is great, though my biggest gripe with it is just how old the server is. Raiding feels like you're being carried because most people are already geared because the server is 5 years old. The PvP server was an obvious flop when it was announced because most of the players aren't pvpers, the RP community left because the server got stale and is over on Epsilon. Epoch I think is going to do a lot of lasting damage to Turtle if Turtle 2.0 isn't huge.
Fun behind the scenes at MadSeasonShow: before even beginning to write the script for new episodes, Madseason figures out how he's going to slip in the "I told you so".
These videos are such a trip down memory lane, thank for making them. I played from Vanilla to WoTLK. With a brief return later. Honestly, I didn't like the Burning Crusade that much, the new gear with the new damage, made those vanilla players lose their lore somehow, it was so cool seeing someone walking around in full epics or even a full tier set. An inspiration to all the things you could do, even when reaching 60. Then the outland came and all of it was worthless pretty much. I do specifically remember being hyped about flying mounts in the Burning Crusade "WOW, I can fly ANYWHERE?" That was mind-breaking. But, after getting it and seeing how it influenced the world, did I realize that it was indeed one of those things I thought I wanted, but I didn't. It just killed the world. It felt empty. It was like a huge social aspect was removed when you didn't encounter other players walking around. Sure, no more ganking from hordes, but it started the arc of isolation in the game. I enjoyed some aspects of WoTLK, but the game wasn't the same. cross-realm Dungeon Grouping and PvP had just removed so much of the social aspect, and all these things stacked up. I quit. The community wasn't there, and only the most hardcore nerds were still playing. Still miss those days. Returning to vanilla much later just wasn't the same, the min-maxxing really sucked the joy out of the game for me, it just wasn't as magical when you knew what the best talents, races and builds were, where all the quests and secrets were located. Had some fun playing with old-schoolers but you could not mistake that every single aspect of the game had been organised and calculated, you didn't need to rely on others and if you were curious about someones playstyle or items, you'd just look it up. No point in trying out different builds as it all had been datamined and perfected through the years. Fucking nerds.
I still get chills down my spine and tears in my eyes when I watch the Classic announcement video and the Dwarf Hunter comes up on the screen. It's difficult to explain the feeling or even the reasons for it, but I know that many, if not most, in this comment section will completely understand.
People often talked about wotlk being the peak of wow, but I still remember how many friends and peers I had playing in vanilla that stopped either with tbc or with wotlk. Being the hopeless nerd, I continued even into wotlk but I remember having to forget many names on my friends list that stopped coming online for all new people even as we switched to battlenet and the game continued the stagnating climb to its peak subscription numbers.
The clip of J.A.B. announcing Vanilla always gives me chills. Great vid! Also, your last video's background music gave me the urge to replay (and finish for once, I swear) FFX. Just found a deal yesterday and I'm in Kilika's Cloister of Trials! :D
Blizzard didn't give a SHIT about vanilla until they found a way to monetise it beyond what a regular sub brings in. "Told you so, by the way." - Prophet MadSeason.
I used to post on the forums in NA and was one of the more vocal people even just defiantly namedropping Nostalrius and Elysium while I was berating the flaws of the then current (WoD-Legion) expansion. A game a lot of people really don't give credit to here is RuneScape and I'll tell you why. Jagex implemented something to the game called Bonds, players could buy these with real life money then sell them on the Grand Exchange for player gold, these could be used by players for subscription time. They were a massive hit for the game. Blizzard a couple years later announced the token doing the same thing. One difference though is that in RuneScape you as a free player can actually accrue the money to buy a bond and Jagex just enjoys the benefit. Blizzard actively nerfs gold farms to push the sales higher. However for those not in the know with RuneScape, they made a series of sweeping changes but the most divisive was in 2012 called the Evolution of Combat. They basically radically changed the way you did combat, including actual hotkeyed abilities... in fucking RUNESCAPE, THE CLICKER GAME. Needless to say this decision was just forced through despite player bitching, developers were very much convinced fans just needed to see it to understand it... If you want to know where this story ends, Old School RuneScape was subsequently released in a desperate bid and has supplanted RS3 (the original servers and game) in popularity. Jagex themselves and I believe specifically Mod Ash stated that OSRS is a long campaign of winning back player trust over EOC.
@Madseasonshow , I absolutely love the videos. As I relive the best moments playing through classic rerolls. It’s your videos on the background during the grind. Love the show. Keep up the good work
@@madseasonshow We haven't always played on classic era, but as of that record we had prepped for about 9 months, regearing, relearning and in the end improving on the at the time 3 year old record by the Chinese guild Noobs. Majority of us hadn't copied our characters over when it was available but instead had to remake our characters from scratch! We just yesterday broke the all time Blackwing Lair record aswell, albeit that one is not as clean as the Naxx run was. But we intend to still break the remaining 2 records from MC and AQ40, and after that getting back to destroying our Naxx time yet again :D
Memories from Brazil here, monthly subscription wasn't a affordable reality until Cataclysm, in my country. I used to play it on lan houses which used their own modified pirated version, we would play for hours doing the most unoptimized random shit, basically strolling around the game world asking each other what to do. I never felt the same joy after I started a subscription in Cataclysm. Even though I tried playing it with 2 friends after school, we always felt like something was telling us to do shit instead of having fun.
Awesome video! I remember getting a wow trial back in vanilla and enjoyed it a lot. I remember being slightly scared of the Wandering Protectors in Ashenvale and overall having a great time playing. I then decided to play some more and spent a lot of my time leveling up in Westfall with a subscription and from I don't know how long, I ended up swimming up and down the Stranglethorn Vale fishing for the iron and mithril-bound trunks. It was MY way of playing the game and MY way of earning my own pocket of gold. Fast forward I joined a guild, got slapped by a ghost in Karazhan that aggroed and killed the whole guild, then I joined another guild in the Lich King expansion, got the turtle mount, Arthas blade and that was all she wrote. LK was the peak for me and vanilla was the womb that gave birth to some fantastic experiences!
I love your videos MadSeasonShow, you really know what you are talking about and you have made me love Vanilla more and more. I am gona join phase 4 that comes to Classic SoD and i hope that they have done it well and that we how loves Vanilla can enjoy it. Please continue to do more videos about Vanilla, thats the high point everyday i start up youtube and see if there is something new from you :)
I first started playing World of Warcraft in June 2005! I was hooked from the moment I logged on. Originally, I was going to make an Orc Warrior. But a friend convinced me to play Alliance instead. So, I made a NE Hunter and never looked back! I miss those old days, but I still enjoy World of Warcraft. I am not into private servers. My second server, Stormscale, became my Home server. I now have a guild on there, Order of Gwydion!
I’m a little drunk and reminiscing on old memories of comfort and nerdiness. I love 2000’s blizzard games. Thanks for bringing me back to that sweet nostalgia. I probably won’t remember all the lovely history you spent so much time on. But know I share your magnetic wow sentiments. Hopefully someone who develops games catches on and takes advantage of this absolutely delicious market of people waiting on an absolutely delicious game…I’m hungry.
Oh wow! I have been out of the loop so long I had no idea any of this happened I last played in 2009 and am just returning trying to catch up with all the changes since Lich King. Thanks for this comprehensive historical overview.
"Monotonous Adonis". Brilliant, Sir. Your videos are amazing from front to back; but there are particular gems that you scatter about in them which add a special sparkle. I love everything you do. :)
What Blizzard doesn't realize.. is they are making history. Every move they make can either make Blizzard great again or push them further over the cliff. Vanilla WoW has so much potential; and can easily reignite the passion that lived and breathed throughout Classic WoW. There is no other game like Vanilla WoW and it will go down in history as the best MMORPG ever created. I hope to see my grand children playing World of Warcraft one day.
Guys, if you haven't done it yet, give ascension wow a try. It is a really well run server with some of the best ideas I've seen in the genre. It's like Sod but way more in depth with crazy build variety.
the hardcore classic days spawned some of the funniest and best moments in classic wow IMO. ill never forget all those death clips and the OTK mak'gora.
20th anniversary server have been so fun for me. Was level 8 and found a group. We all ended up leveling together and the fun we all had. Many in the group were trying wow for the first time. Never get that from retail.
I absolutely LOVE it when you throw the token back in their faces! I hope you find a way to throw it into every single video lol. Well done as always MadSeason!
I do feel Old School Runescape's success did give an indicator that old versions of WoW can thrive and be profitable. Given how it was insanely popular beyond nostalgia and eclipsed the main game in terms of popularity.
Mad thanks again for blessing us with another upload. As i sit here on my only day off in weeks, i really look forward to sitting down with a nice cheeseburger and watching your videos. Thanks mad and godspeed.
Great video, Madseason. SoD p4 comes out soon, and the news has been dropping like hotcakes. I think people are getting excited about the latest season again. I've heard quite a few people mention that a re-release of Classic TBC would be great. I hope they do that at some point, despite the classic community already being spread between so many versions.
turtle wow is fun and classic plus, new custom zones items and talents. new karazhan 40 raid is coming up, and the Emerald Sanctum 40 raid is custom too, great community too!
For me... Cataclysm marked the beginning of the end of my journey with Retail WOW! Although funnily enough, I actually DID enjoy the high level stuff... Vashj'ir was Amazing!!! And I really did enjoy Deepholm! But levelling a new toon from scratch in the revamped Old World? Yeah... Something just felt... Broken... Off even!!! So much so, that I only managed to level just ONE toon, and simply levelled all my other high level toons to 85! So it was a VERY mixed bag! And even now it's been re-released as a Classic relaunch... I jumped in once, drooled at the VERY nice looking graphics... And then promptly jumped back into good ole Vanilla Hardcore! To immerse myself back into the original Old World... Along with the INSANE challenges that Hardcore provides! I had planned to play Cata Classic again with an Old Friend... But he no longer seems to be bothered anymore... And quite frankly... Neither am I!!!
When I was a kid I didn't have money to pay for a subscription fee to play WoW. So I started playing on private servers for TBC and then moved on to WOTLK. Those were some amazing days. Private servers in that era were truly something else.
Take me back to Nostalrius man. I remember when that server hit about 6k players, it was nuts. Every area of the world was busy and bustling, you could get a group for anything and there wasn't mara spams in chat or anything silly like that. Sure 300 ping wasn't ideal, but damn did it feel like I had 2004/05 Vanilla back, technically two times more than my old haunt Azgalor back in the day.
I started playing Ascension, season 9 after P2 of SoD and I've not had more fun in WoW for easily 10+ years. It's like a breath of fresh air. Not to mention the game is actually being actively developed unlike umm...whatever is happening to Classic and it's iterations by Aggrend and pals :D
I cant get enough of the story about the monotonous adonis who has forseen the future and up to this day can quote himself and telling the others that he told them so! I love it every single time it´s in your videos
The wow classic announcement still gives me goosebumps. Played when it when t came. Had to quit (again) but then started again autum 2023 and in January this year I got my first Kel'Thuzad-kill ever. Now I can finally rest.
Man I remember my friends older brother installing the game for my friend and I and helped us get on to a private server in 2005. There were a lot of private servers even then, played on many before convincing my parents to pay for a subscription in 2006.
Beautiful story telling. Enjoyed from start to end. I could watch you saying I told you so over and over again and it makes me smile inside every time. Truth hurts.
It's actually crazy how good the presentation of the Vanilla project is. And in stark contrast to how out of touch he was during the panel where he was asked ("you don't want that")... when he says "your favorite flavor... is vanilla!", it still gives me chills.
RIP nostalrius what an amazing wow experience that server was. I was shocked when they announced classic at blizzcon and hilarious to think how few servers they had planned originally. I played on stalagg and it was crazy to experience that 2019 launch
My favorite part of all of this is how there was a one point in time where people would write literal essays about how Vanilla will never be a thing again; and now there's retail, Cata classic, AND Vanilla Classic 😂😂
Classic hardcore might be one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. No micros. No boosting. If you make it to 60, you earned it. One of the last bastions of good WoW.
I'm always chasing the feeling of wonder and immersion that I got from leveling my first toon during BC. 2019 vanilla is the closest I've gotten. I feel like I missed SoD, but will maybe catch the next one.
This was a great and informative video on the events around Classic WoW. I was there when it first started, being young and not having disposable income or stable internet connection at home for the monthly subscription meant that I was going on private servers when visiting friends which probably ran the leaked alpha version at the time. I recall it being a buggy, laggy mess but damn did it have charm... And when I eventually started playing retail off and on again I also felt the decline in focus, charm and character with each expansion. It was a shame to see a once great game studio go down like this. As for the origin story, I think you could have spent a little more time on Warcraft 3 since it hardly got a mention, but the Warcraft 3 TFT expansion started off with the Rexxar campaign which many consider a prelude to what WoW would eventually become.
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The 3 best expansions in wow: cata, mop and legion.
Worse expansion: WoD
I really do hope you play OSRS and give it a review. I would love to see the difference in devs.
@@Kelvrynthe dungeons were challenging!
Bro could tell me this story 500 times in 500 different videos, I still listen to it
I just watched it for the "I told you so, BTW"
Lmao same
Somehow hes making the same video every 2 weeks and i watch it.
LOL same
well at least you guys acknowledge he is making the same video over and over. The first step is being honest with yourself.
One of the saddest changes that happened to WoW (for me), is when dungeons changed from an exploration event to a speed-running lootfest.
Dungeon crawls like BRD were like adventures
This was one of the biggest reasons why I quit. Every dungeon pug was focused on doing it at breakneck speed, trying to skip every single mob pack, and then people losing their shit if you accidentally pulled one.
So when they added RDF
ofc we wana do it fast like seriously ppl already explored em a million times what do u guyz expect ? u guyz are weird
@@mcfarvo Commenting here to echo your sentiment. BRD was the greatest dungeon ever imo. I absolutely Loved going there and I used to know every route through there by heart.
I am 80 years old. My son tricked me into playing the game when I kept yelling at him to turn off that computer and get in bed. - I'm still playing.
I was there at Blizzcon in 2017 (my first one live, came all the way from the UK!), I was sat about 15-20 feet from J.Allen Brack when he made the announcement. The hall erupted, whatever you heard on stream doesn't do it justice.
I wasn't there, and I'm definitely not the most passionate about vanilla WoW. But that announcement is right up there with Square Enix announcing the FF7 remake (FF7 being my all time favorite game). Something I had hoped would happen a few times over the years, but never actually expected to really happen.
When this was announced... it was more emotional than I could understand why. I started playing at the end of TBC and release of WotLK, so this was a chance to experience a part of the game I had never experienced before. Still gives me major goosebumps to watch those announcements!
This man will never miss an opportunity to say “I told you so”, and I am here for it 🙌🏻
Told you so. Yeah so did 99% of the player base.
@@Muhlum24 Yeah, i like madseason but its getting kind of annoying, not gonna lie. Everyone saw it coming
*The sun rises in the east* - «Told you so!»
@@chreezy9383 It might be the case for him that he frequented reddit and forums where people were not expecting it and denied it or he is just very salty for blizzard activision ruining a game he fell in love with and hasnt gotten over it yet. He will get over it eventually, as should we.
@@chreezy9383 The thing, the people that are invested in the game, to the point of watching videos about it, saw it coming
The dumbasses that feed into this system didn't, because they're just that dull
it's like the people who keep, playing nowadays, after years decades of playing, and see nothing wrong with either the game or blizzard
Season of mastery was also weird because it launched in the middle of tbc right before Black Temple so they were cannibalizing their own players
I regret not playing SoM big time
Shadowlands/Classic Naxx, Hardcore Wow (6 months in)/SOD and as u mentioned SOM/TBC
always gotta pick
I think Season of Mastery could have done way better if it had some chance to breathe from Vanilla.
Thank you for keeping me sane. With my father's passing and work, you really make my days better.
Sorry for your loss, my family has suffered losses recently as well. Glad the videos have been a good distraction, I think that can be healthy. Good luck dude and thanks for watching
@@madseasonshow thank you buddy! And ditto I suppose. Part of life. Good luck to you as well mate and keep up the good content.
"fathers" wtf
@@Jackfromshack fixed it! Ty
Nostalrius was the first private server I tried. Loved it. Played max level and quit. Have not touched WoW after that.
Nostalrius was the best Vanilla ever made (after the original ofc). Not even 2019's Classic could come close. I'm glad you and me were there :)
I was there, 3000 years ago...
Fury prot MT, full world buffed juiced to the gills raids didnt exist on nostalrius yet. Boss damage and armor was tuned much higher too
Mad's been on an absolute tear lately, and I'm loving every moment of it. Keep it up brother, you're killing it!
Private server history is a fascinating yet underrepresented topic, sick vid mr. show!
Super underrepresented, I still think we have private servers to thank for the official classic re-release
Wotlk will live for ever
im glad turtlewow and ascencion are getting their honorary mentions
Great servers! And soon Epoch arrives too!
Turtle is pretty damn sweet. Lots of respect for the devs on their achievements, especially the custom music.
TurtleWoW is amazing, I unsubscribed to WoW once I found out about that server
@@dannyp9210 Epoch looks really great.
@@carnifexia1725 Turtle is great, though my biggest gripe with it is just how old the server is. Raiding feels like you're being carried because most people are already geared because the server is 5 years old. The PvP server was an obvious flop when it was announced because most of the players aren't pvpers, the RP community left because the server got stale and is over on Epsilon. Epoch I think is going to do a lot of lasting damage to Turtle if Turtle 2.0 isn't huge.
Decades from now the year 2024 will be known as the 'Year of MadSeason', every time I blink there is a new video!
Fun behind the scenes at MadSeasonShow: before even beginning to write the script for new episodes, Madseason figures out how he's going to slip in the "I told you so".
You cooked, now we eat.
no, now we feast
Nay! We feast!
oh he's feeding, alright
Es hora de comer
Quenching my thirst.
Hearing the word "warez" in 2024 is a vibe.
Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker
Did Someone mentioned "Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker" ?
did somebody say?
Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]!!!
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These videos are such a trip down memory lane, thank for making them.
I played from Vanilla to WoTLK. With a brief return later.
Honestly, I didn't like the Burning Crusade that much, the new gear with the new damage, made those vanilla players lose their lore somehow, it was so cool seeing someone walking around in full epics or even a full tier set. An inspiration to all the things you could do, even when reaching 60. Then the outland came and all of it was worthless pretty much.
I do specifically remember being hyped about flying mounts in the Burning Crusade "WOW, I can fly ANYWHERE?" That was mind-breaking. But, after getting it and seeing how it influenced the world, did I realize that it was indeed one of those things I thought I wanted, but I didn't.
It just killed the world. It felt empty. It was like a huge social aspect was removed when you didn't encounter other players walking around. Sure, no more ganking from hordes, but it started the arc of isolation in the game.
I enjoyed some aspects of WoTLK, but the game wasn't the same. cross-realm Dungeon Grouping and PvP had just removed so much of the social aspect, and all these things stacked up. I quit. The community wasn't there, and only the most hardcore nerds were still playing.
Still miss those days. Returning to vanilla much later just wasn't the same, the min-maxxing really sucked the joy out of the game for me, it just wasn't as magical when you knew what the best talents, races and builds were, where all the quests and secrets were located. Had some fun playing with old-schoolers but you could not mistake that every single aspect of the game had been organised and calculated, you didn't need to rely on others and if you were curious about someones playstyle or items, you'd just look it up. No point in trying out different builds as it all had been datamined and perfected through the years.
Fucking nerds.
I still get chills down my spine and tears in my eyes when I watch the Classic announcement video and the Dwarf Hunter comes up on the screen. It's difficult to explain the feeling or even the reasons for it, but I know that many, if not most, in this comment section will completely understand.
People often talked about wotlk being the peak of wow, but I still remember how many friends and peers I had playing in vanilla that stopped either with tbc or with wotlk. Being the hopeless nerd, I continued even into wotlk but I remember having to forget many names on my friends list that stopped coming online for all new people even as we switched to battlenet and the game continued the stagnating climb to its peak subscription numbers.
The clip of J.A.B. announcing Vanilla always gives me chills. Great vid!
Also, your last video's background music gave me the urge to replay (and finish for once, I swear) FFX. Just found a deal yesterday and I'm in Kilika's Cloister of Trials! :D
We’d love to have you over here on Old School RuneScape MadSeason, you and Jimmy need to play / make a video together !
Thanks for the support, Runescape video in the plans :D
Mmm, another hit of that Mad Season Sauce
He’s literally killing it recently, I love it 🤘🏼
This sudden burst of content is greatly appreciated
Blizzard didn't give a SHIT about vanilla until they found a way to monetise it beyond what a regular sub brings in.
"Told you so, by the way." - Prophet MadSeason.
I used to post on the forums in NA and was one of the more vocal people even just defiantly namedropping Nostalrius and Elysium while I was berating the flaws of the then current (WoD-Legion) expansion. A game a lot of people really don't give credit to here is RuneScape and I'll tell you why. Jagex implemented something to the game called Bonds, players could buy these with real life money then sell them on the Grand Exchange for player gold, these could be used by players for subscription time. They were a massive hit for the game. Blizzard a couple years later announced the token doing the same thing. One difference though is that in RuneScape you as a free player can actually accrue the money to buy a bond and Jagex just enjoys the benefit. Blizzard actively nerfs gold farms to push the sales higher.
However for those not in the know with RuneScape, they made a series of sweeping changes but the most divisive was in 2012 called the Evolution of Combat. They basically radically changed the way you did combat, including actual hotkeyed abilities... in fucking RUNESCAPE, THE CLICKER GAME. Needless to say this decision was just forced through despite player bitching, developers were very much convinced fans just needed to see it to understand it... If you want to know where this story ends, Old School RuneScape was subsequently released in a desperate bid and has supplanted RS3 (the original servers and game) in popularity. Jagex themselves and I believe specifically Mod Ash stated that OSRS is a long campaign of winning back player trust over EOC.
And that's a problem how?
@@Flirt136It’s bad because it cannibalizes the game. Think before you comment.
@@networknomad5600 And that's bad how exactly. Explain it to me since you think so much nerd
@@networknomad5600 you have not used the word cannibalise properly there
We’re old fellows … its over , we ll never have this again
BABE WAKE UP, NEW MADSEASONSHOW VID
@Madseasonshow , I absolutely love the videos. As I relive the best moments playing through classic rerolls. It’s your videos on the background during the grind. Love the show. Keep up the good work
Thanks for showing my vid!
"Quite Drastically" :^)
Good run dude, I've watched it a few times actually
@@madseasonshow We haven't always played on classic era, but as of that record we had prepped for about 9 months, regearing, relearning and in the end improving on the at the time 3 year old record by the Chinese guild Noobs.
Majority of us hadn't copied our characters over when it was available but instead had to remake our characters from scratch!
We just yesterday broke the all time Blackwing Lair record aswell, albeit that one is not as clean as the Naxx run was.
But we intend to still break the remaining 2 records from MC and AQ40, and after that getting back to destroying our Naxx time yet again :D
@@Drasten omg you're living your best life I'm jelly af
Memories from Brazil here, monthly subscription wasn't a affordable reality until Cataclysm, in my country.
I used to play it on lan houses which used their own modified pirated version, we would play for hours doing the most unoptimized random shit, basically strolling around the game world asking each other what to do.
I never felt the same joy after I started a subscription in Cataclysm. Even though I tried playing it with 2 friends after school, we always felt like something was telling us to do shit instead of having fun.
Awesome video! I remember getting a wow trial back in vanilla and enjoyed it a lot. I remember being slightly scared of the Wandering Protectors in Ashenvale and overall having a great time playing. I then decided to play some more and spent a lot of my time leveling up in Westfall with a subscription and from I don't know how long, I ended up swimming up and down the Stranglethorn Vale fishing for the iron and mithril-bound trunks. It was MY way of playing the game and MY way of earning my own pocket of gold. Fast forward I joined a guild, got slapped by a ghost in Karazhan that aggroed and killed the whole guild, then I joined another guild in the Lich King expansion, got the turtle mount, Arthas blade and that was all she wrote. LK was the peak for me and vanilla was the womb that gave birth to some fantastic experiences!
I love your videos MadSeasonShow, you really know what you are talking about and you have made me love Vanilla more and more. I am gona join phase 4 that comes to Classic SoD and i hope that they have done it well and that we how loves Vanilla can enjoy it. Please continue to do more videos about Vanilla, thats the high point everyday i start up youtube and see if there is something new from you :)
Me and my homies are riding the turtle, have been for a couple years now. Great server
Shoutout for the turtle
Been playing turtle since 2022. I think its the best vanilla experience you can get at the moment ❤
It weirdly enough feels more "Classic" than Classic WoW did, even though Turtle has extra content.
I first started playing World of Warcraft in June 2005! I was hooked from the moment I logged on. Originally, I was going to make an Orc Warrior. But a friend convinced me to play Alliance instead. So, I made a NE Hunter and never looked back! I miss those old days, but I still enjoy World of Warcraft. I am not into private servers. My second server, Stormscale, became my Home server. I now have a guild on there, Order of Gwydion!
I’m a little drunk and reminiscing on old memories of comfort and nerdiness. I love 2000’s blizzard games. Thanks for bringing me back to that sweet nostalgia. I probably won’t remember all the lovely history you spent so much time on. But know I share your magnetic wow sentiments. Hopefully someone who develops games catches on and takes advantage of this absolutely delicious market of people waiting on an absolutely delicious game…I’m hungry.
His voice is so relaxing. It's comforting. The nostalgia hits so hard when he talks about it.
Oh wow! I have been out of the loop so long I had no idea any of this happened I last played in 2009 and am just returning trying to catch up with all the changes since Lich King. Thanks for this comprehensive historical overview.
Hard to believe Blizz took 13 years to find the copy of classic when it was right in front of their eyes.
I will never stop enjoying MadSeason's videos about wow!
And I want 2019 vanilla Classic to be released again with progression
What a great Clip. Just started new on Zandalar Tribe EU🥳. Thanks a lot 👍🏻😍
"Monotonous Adonis". Brilliant, Sir. Your videos are amazing from front to back; but there are particular gems that you scatter about in them which add a special sparkle. I love everything you do. :)
What Blizzard doesn't realize.. is they are making history. Every move they make can either make Blizzard great again or push them further over the cliff. Vanilla WoW has so much potential; and can easily reignite the passion that lived and breathed throughout Classic WoW. There is no other game like Vanilla WoW and it will go down in history as the best MMORPG ever created. I hope to see my grand children playing World of Warcraft one day.
Idk, Lineage 2 Interlude was the best RPG, especially by its special social gameplay and interactions, which is the main thing to me in mmos.
Well, for that to happen you'd have to talk to a girl first.
@@romaroalte2645 you are free to find lineage 2 the better rpg, but lineage 2 didn't had the succes wow had.
Guys, if you haven't done it yet, give ascension wow a try. It is a really well run server with some of the best ideas I've seen in the genre. It's like Sod but way more in depth with crazy build variety.
the hardcore classic days spawned some of the funniest and best moments in classic wow IMO. ill never forget all those death clips and the OTK mak'gora.
Hugely helpful. Thank you!
20th anniversary server have been so fun for me. Was level 8 and found a group. We all ended up leveling together and the fun we all had. Many in the group were trying wow for the first time. Never get that from retail.
I absolutely LOVE it when you throw the token back in their faces! I hope you find a way to throw it into every single video lol. Well done as always MadSeason!
To this day, when I hear "your favorite flavor... is vanilla" I can't help but cheer :D
Stay awesome Madseason, we love your vids.
"The monotonous Adonis"
You're such a precious item man, rofl. Keep them Nostalgicraft videos coming!
I do feel Old School Runescape's success did give an indicator that old versions of WoW can thrive and be profitable. Given how it was insanely popular beyond nostalgia and eclipsed the main game in terms of popularity.
Madseason pushing out these banger videos at the speed of light... Crazy, top man. 👍🏻
Mad thanks again for blessing us with another upload. As i sit here on my only day off in weeks, i really look forward to sitting down with a nice cheeseburger and watching your videos. Thanks mad and godspeed.
Great video, Madseason. SoD p4 comes out soon, and the news has been dropping like hotcakes. I think people are getting excited about the latest season again. I've heard quite a few people mention that a re-release of Classic TBC would be great. I hope they do that at some point, despite the classic community already being spread between so many versions.
turtle wow is fun and classic plus, new custom zones items and talents. new karazhan 40 raid is coming up, and the Emerald Sanctum 40 raid is custom too, great community too!
Im enjoying this as always, and it's strange that I'm replaying this three times in row, love u Mads
It's starting to feel like every video mad uploads is an excuse to slip in the "I told you so" bit and I'm all for it.
I love these videos you keep giving us!! Good work man!
I was just binging your old history videos, good timing!
Man seeing that 2017 announcement again brought a tear to my eye.
Glad you make more videos. Morning coffe and watching this is golden.
I love how you treat the WoW Token debacle like a trophy. XD
I honestly think COVID-19 Catalyzed Classic as a huge part of its popularity.
The crowd really likes vanilla ice cream
That intro is just so good that it makes me press the like button for the video in literally the first 5 seconds.
For me... Cataclysm marked the beginning of the end of my journey with Retail WOW! Although funnily enough, I actually DID enjoy the high level stuff... Vashj'ir was Amazing!!! And I really did enjoy Deepholm!
But levelling a new toon from scratch in the revamped Old World? Yeah... Something just felt... Broken... Off even!!! So much so, that I only managed to level just ONE toon, and simply levelled all my other high level toons to 85!
So it was a VERY mixed bag! And even now it's been re-released as a Classic relaunch... I jumped in once, drooled at the VERY nice looking graphics... And then promptly jumped back into good ole Vanilla Hardcore! To immerse myself back into the original Old World... Along with the INSANE challenges that Hardcore provides!
I had planned to play Cata Classic again with an Old Friend... But he no longer seems to be bothered anymore... And quite frankly... Neither am I!!!
I love how madseason will never let the wow token thing go, bask in that vindication brother you earned it
Thank you, madseason, for another great vid!
Playing Vanilla HC 1-3 months a year, its the perfect nostalgia trip with the leveling zones
I think you mean that we were all waiting for warcraft 4. We already had Warcraft 3, and The Frozen Throne expansion.
"told you so, btw" lol LOVE IT!
When I was a kid I didn't have money to pay for a subscription fee to play WoW. So I started playing on private servers for TBC and then moved on to WOTLK. Those were some amazing days. Private servers in that era were truly something else.
Leveling in Vanilla is GOAT, PVP / Shuffle in Retail is really sophisticated
14:37 Props, the best music for "you think you do, but you don't" IS the Goldeneye n64 Music!
..I miss WoW. A lot. I just don't know where to start anymore.
Turtle wow
Take me back to Nostalrius man. I remember when that server hit about 6k players, it was nuts. Every area of the world was busy and bustling, you could get a group for anything and there wasn't mara spams in chat or anything silly like that. Sure 300 ping wasn't ideal, but damn did it feel like I had 2004/05 Vanilla back, technically two times more than my old haunt Azgalor back in the day.
I'd stay up into the wee hours of the night and play with all of the Europeans and Chinese. The world was bustling 24/7. Nothing will ever compare.
I started playing Ascension, season 9 after P2 of SoD and I've not had more fun in WoW for easily 10+ years. It's like a breath of fresh air. Not to mention the game is actually being actively developed unlike umm...whatever is happening to Classic and it's iterations by Aggrend and pals :D
Never got into the WoW scene when it came out, but MadSeason makes me nostalgic thinking about it
I cant get enough of the story about the monotonous adonis who has forseen the future and up to this day can quote himself and telling the others that he told them so! I love it every single time it´s in your videos
Even to this day when I hear the "...your favorite flavor is vanilla!" I get goosebumps. That classic announcement was so epic.
Dear Mad season, thank you for the content! I am addicted to watching your videos. Absolutely love it.
The wow classic announcement still gives me goosebumps. Played when it when t came. Had to quit (again) but then started again autum 2023 and in January this year I got my first Kel'Thuzad-kill ever. Now I can finally rest.
Man I remember my friends older brother installing the game for my friend and I and helped us get on to a private server in 2005. There were a lot of private servers even then, played on many before convincing my parents to pay for a subscription in 2006.
Beautiful story telling. Enjoyed from start to end. I could watch you saying I told you so over and over again and it makes me smile inside every time. Truth hurts.
Big shocker: cata classic drove more people to the private servers.
MadSeason is love, MadSeason is life.
Always great to hear your voice!
Thank you for the great video.
God... that vanilla icecream line reveal was so epic when it happened.
Great vid, thanks Madseason.
It's actually crazy how good the presentation of the Vanilla project is. And in stark contrast to how out of touch he was during the panel where he was asked ("you don't want that")... when he says "your favorite flavor... is vanilla!", it still gives me chills.
RIP nostalrius what an amazing wow experience that server was. I was shocked when they announced classic at blizzcon and hilarious to think how few servers they had planned originally. I played on stalagg and it was crazy to experience that 2019 launch
I still goosebumps when Alan says the line “… is vanilla”
My favorite part of all of this is how there was a one point in time where people would write literal essays about how Vanilla will never be a thing again; and now there's retail, Cata classic, AND Vanilla Classic 😂😂
"What If" series. People would love it!!! Seriously, that would be an epic series, and I don't think anyone has done it in capacity yet.
so awesome, ty mad!
bro I love your content
from France
A good video while editing, The Madseason effect, ty man. i need ur calm voice
Classic hardcore might be one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. No micros. No boosting. If you make it to 60, you earned it. One of the last bastions of good WoW.
I'm always chasing the feeling of wonder and immersion that I got from leveling my first toon during BC. 2019 vanilla is the closest I've gotten. I feel like I missed SoD, but will maybe catch the next one.
This was a great and informative video on the events around Classic WoW. I was there when it first started, being young and not having disposable income or stable internet connection at home for the monthly subscription meant that I was going on private servers when visiting friends which probably ran the leaked alpha version at the time.
I recall it being a buggy, laggy mess but damn did it have charm... And when I eventually started playing retail off and on again I also felt the decline in focus, charm and character with each expansion. It was a shame to see a once great game studio go down like this.
As for the origin story, I think you could have spent a little more time on Warcraft 3 since it hardly got a mention, but the Warcraft 3 TFT expansion started off with the Rexxar campaign which many consider a prelude to what WoW would eventually become.