Trumpet tip, Over Doing It

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2015
  • In this video I talk about over doing it and what you might do to recover.
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  • @TheMrAshley2010
    @TheMrAshley2010 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "...you're not protecting the village from intruders. You're playing trumpet." absolutely hilarious...and true!!!!!

  • @miguelsantiago84
    @miguelsantiago84 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    "its called patience... painful when your young" hahaha so true

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Miguel Santiago Glad you enjoyed that moment…I remember those days ☺ best, Jon

    • @gregorysloat4258
      @gregorysloat4258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It ain’t so easy when you’re older, either. 🤣

  • @sandwichxiii
    @sandwichxiii 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Our high school marching band brass tech needs to watch this so bad

  • @ParasiteQueen1
    @ParasiteQueen1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great advice. I REALLY over did it a few days before a Christmas, worship service at church, and I couldn't play jack - - I couldn't play anything over a middle C. Horrible. This is great advice!

  • @MrWynton5364
    @MrWynton5364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I simply tell myself that practicing today is for playing better tomorrow.

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      @tobycollin5759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @karsynleland3434
      @karsynleland3434 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Toby Collin Happy to help xD

  • @jettone11
    @jettone11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I miss your posts...R.I.P. Jon

  • @jacobwisenbach1234
    @jacobwisenbach1234 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This all needs to be said, like most of your videos. having dealt with issues like this in the past it made me laugh at myself. great work as always!

  • @PhilMargolies
    @PhilMargolies 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video. Some great advice there. Fortunately, my HS band director was also a trumpet player (former Northwestern student of Cichowicz), so he understood about saving yourself for the performance.

  • @daniela.desfosses4223
    @daniela.desfosses4223 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    John, I've found you're absolutely right: Good rehearsal lousy performance. Lousy rehearsal good performance.

  • @oldfatcrabxx
    @oldfatcrabxx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    like an old Chinese saying: overreach the mark is just as bad as not reaching it. Thanks, John~

  • @gettrancnlised465
    @gettrancnlised465 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a young trumpeter I greatly appreciate the advice, thank you so much!

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get trancnlised You’re very welcome

  • @user-dv3kt5qr3d
    @user-dv3kt5qr3d 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really love this advice !!!

  • @Touchgrindbmxbaws
    @Touchgrindbmxbaws 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just played for 6 hours three days before the biggest exam of my life so thanks you’re a lifesaver!

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow brother so glad it helped. Best, Jon

  • @pushyred
    @pushyred 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video John. I need to watch this every day!

  • @icemanlee666
    @icemanlee666 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thanks a lot Jon I'm gonna wait until all soreness is gone and then build up slowly like you said, thanks for the help

  • @ElPalomodelaSierra
    @ElPalomodelaSierra 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the advice! It is well appreciated!

  • @thebrothersignatiusbigband568
    @thebrothersignatiusbigband568 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes Jon! Great stuff.

  • @Round_Teddy_bear
    @Round_Teddy_bear 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best advice ever!!!

  • @BoazKimMusic
    @BoazKimMusic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jon,
    I really wish I had the confidence to do this even when there were performances coming up. Saving something for performance is important. Good note about avoiding long tones right after an injury. Thanks for making such great videos!

  • @mor2bz
    @mor2bz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow, real advice from someone who knows and cares. RIP Jon.

  • @adamf.4823
    @adamf.4823 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just started playing a couple of months ago and I'm surprised again and again how easy it is to overdo it as a beginner. I take regular breaks during practice sessions but I've still had to accept the need to skip a day here and there for recovery.

  • @dannybobbi2577
    @dannybobbi2577 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you John. You say it like it is!

  • @golf4funjn532
    @golf4funjn532 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great advice and video! This really helped me..thanks!

  • @thatwontwork9046
    @thatwontwork9046 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha great and true video! So enthusiastic too

  • @_DEATH___
    @_DEATH___ ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for your advices:)

  • @armandogiordano1226
    @armandogiordano1226 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You sir have just made my day hahaha

  • @CornetBlues
    @CornetBlues ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely 100% always keep some in reserve 🙏🏻🙏🏻🎺🎶🎺

  • @MaynardFreek
    @MaynardFreek 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    for some reason and I fell victim to this when I was young, the mentality is if you practice/play 3 hrs per day always going to your limits and constantly having a sore embochure, then cure has to more, more and more! Boggles the mind

  • @graceholloway5477
    @graceholloway5477 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:40 has me dead😂😂💀💀

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grace Holloway So glad you enjoyed that the results I was looking for

  • @michaelg3074
    @michaelg3074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes. Trumpet playing is like being an MLB pitcher. How many innings can you go before you injure yourself?

  • @Kira-pz8bm
    @Kira-pz8bm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @MrJacker751
    @MrJacker751 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    John how are you? I love your videos. I found your channel about a year ago and I am so thankful for that because I've learned so much. Thank you for that. Waiting on the next video !:)

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been to deaths door and back. I am much better and will start back up soon. Best, Jon

  • @tylermoon8503
    @tylermoon8503 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow this was a God-send for me at this point in my playing. I'm a senior in high school and have been going through an embouchure change for what I can remember as about 2 or 3 years now. It might sound strange, but I have basically worked through a lot of method books and finally found one that really works for me and really makes sense to me about a year and a half ago (Greg Spence's Mysterytomastery method. He has a wonderful website if you would like to check it out) and have basically reinvented my embouchure from an unusable, forced, mouthpiece pressure reliant, and tight one into about the most relaxed and healthy one that I can manage to establish. But it has been incredibly hard over these past few years because I have been lead trumpet in high school for all of my 4 years (I go to a small private high school) and most days the director is demanding much more out of me than I can give. I've always experienced range and forcing issues ever since I began this journey to figure out an easier and more efficient way of playing my sophomore year. But the one thing that has kept me going is the passion and kindness and musicians like you, Jon. I stumbled across your videos I think 2 years ago or so and I still didn't really understand everything that you were talking about with range and all that. But now it is finally starting to make sense and I feel like I'm finally on the road upward. From the bottom of my heart, thank you Jon. You really have kept me on this great, life-long journey of figuring out the trumpet and have changed my life. All the best and Happy New Year!

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Tyler Moon Well that is truly inspirational. I only hope a piece of one video helps one-person figure out some part of the puzzle. The videos are like breadcrumbs and when you put all of it together it should point to conclusions that make sense on a larger level. I honestly think people get more out of discovery that disclosure. Happy New Year Tyler I wish all the best for you. Jon

    • @thatwontwork9046
      @thatwontwork9046 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know I'm a few years late, but at the time of your comment I was going through the exact same thing, like exact exact. Thanks for sharing! I truly understand

    • @rodneymiller652
      @rodneymiller652 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rufftips I'm

  • @rebus9
    @rebus9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ugh. Guilty as charged. Thank you for reminding me of what I already knew was wrong, but frequently get sucked into doing more than I'd like to admit. 35 years of playing regularly year-round, and I still tend to over-do practice sessions when I'm facing a demanding performance that's outside of my comfort zone range-wise. Anxiety rises as the date gets closer, my daily workout routines get harder and longer, then I'm forced to take a day or two off because eventually all I can blow is airballs. My two worst habits are using too much pressure for upper register (hard habit to break) and knowing when to to say "when" and put the horn down. Anxiety makes us do bad things to our chops.

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      My mom always said end your session feeling good. Best, Jon

    • @rebus9
      @rebus9 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a tough one. I equate playing stronger with *being* stronger. Building muscle means working out to exhaustion and letting the muscles rebuild stronger. It's that mindset that's so insanely hard to disconnect when it comes to trumpet. I equate high register difficulties with being weak. So I "work out" to exhaustion. My endurance has improved a lot, but upper register-- still elusive. High C is strong, high D is sketchy. Can't break that glass ceiling no matter how many techniques I try. But everything up to high C has become much stronger and highly reliable. Frustration!!!!

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Might be some info here. th-cam.com/video/PXXuezlHcYw/w-d-xo.html
      best, Jon

    • @adamf.4823
      @adamf.4823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is so smart. Why is it so hard to do?

  • @louierippotack194
    @louierippotack194 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always thought that anytime my drill instructor for marching band was a little disappointed in my performance, it was cause my endurance wasn't enough or my range wasn't enough(even though that's still true, my range wall is at an Eb above high c and my endurance is pretty low). I see guys like dci lead trumpet players and james morrison who have virtually unlimited endurance, and i don't know how they do it.

  • @michaelg3074
    @michaelg3074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. This is contraty to EVERYTHING I learned in the 70's. And I never "kicked that football" (Charley Brown) I love your approach. Calm, patients. I can play piano chords over the CD while inbetween excercises. You may rewrite the Arbans. OK .... mayby that's a streatch, but I also saw in another vid: Rest as much as you play. Thanks.

  • @TheComedyHistorian
    @TheComedyHistorian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Before Drum Corps I was in a really good position playing wise, then I ruined it by over doing it. Oh well, I took four days off and now I'm hoping it gets better.

    • @rifle2563
      @rifle2563 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nathan Roscoe Tim amirite

  • @TheGentleUncle
    @TheGentleUncle 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many thanks for the great and fun teaching work you do. I would like to ask you a question: As a beginner with the trumpet (already having "many" years in music generally, in case this information shapes the answer differently), should I learn playing in relative pitch as we usually talk about or would it just be more straightforward to simply get used to actual concert pitch?

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TheGentleUncle Interesting question; I think it depends on what you want to do with the trumpet. If you are going to play jazz as a soloist in a small group you can think of things in concert pitch. This would mean you would read everything written in concert pitch and transpose by fingering everything to “sound” in concert pitch. If you are learning the trumpet to play in a band like a local community band whether it be a concert band or jazz band you should learn the Bb trumpet as everyone does a C is fingered open and sounds a concert D. In this way you will be able to read any piece written for Bb trumpet. I would personally do it this way because it offers the greatest opportunity.
      Best, Jon

  • @gruntpalm
    @gruntpalm 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    …made me smile john :)

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +simon taylor I kind of went for it on this one. I hate to see people get hurt playing and I went big on this video. It made me laugh several times. :)

    • @gruntpalm
      @gruntpalm 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i liked the morning after impression -i do know that feeling!,..your right on with the video john,have a great christmas !

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      simon taylor Thank you and a very merry Christmas to you as well.

  • @PlanetCoop
    @PlanetCoop 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You had me dead at 1:36 XD

  • @Spacekillguy
    @Spacekillguy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely agreed with the advice. Question, I often hear of advice saying "never skipping a day of practice" or some variation on that. Why would that be the case?

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Spacekillguy The concept of not skipping a day of practice comes from the idea of being consistent as a player. In this way you are always ready for a gig in case you get a last minute call. You will maintain a high level of playing proficiency and you will make steady gains on things you are trying to improve. I think it is important to play your trumpet everyday. I like the idea of an overarching weekly routine that provides a balanced diet of different skills. In this way we can work the same skill in different ways throughout the week. This approach can be implemented by the advanced student. If you hurt yourself this rule or concept must be superseded by common sense. Rest, recovery and therapy are applied to sports injuries. Simple logic points to the value of this approach to trumpet playing injuries. Time off to heal only makes sense, the play through the injury approach might do more damage. Being fanatical about playing everyday has its place but when we are hurt we must address the injury. Best, Jon

    • @Spacekillguy
      @Spacekillguy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Rufftips Thank you very much for the detailed reply!

  • @erikandreasbonde551
    @erikandreasbonde551 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi. Interesting about next Day when the lips are Hurt. Maynard played a little a time. Then nothing for half hour, then at little bit and so on the Day. At least told by Lynn Nicholson

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Erik Andreas Bonde This absolutely seems like the most logical way to recover a little easy sessions. They could be thought of this way, snacking. Instead of having your normal meal of practicing just snack a little

    • @erikandreasbonde551
      @erikandreasbonde551 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rufftips
      I godt to remember to eat small meals! Practice and rest... And then I go on trying to learn the trumpet. By the way, are you more self thought than taking lessons?

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Erik Andreas Bonde I studied quite extensively starting at age 10 for about the next 16 years. I studied some mainstream approaches and a few things that were a bit obscure. I worked on things that I developed for myself and studies that were assigned by my teachers. My focus of study changed as did things that I worked on throughout that time. I started working professionally full-time at 26. Learning took on a new meaning. The playing experiences I was engaged in kept me learning in other ways. I went through a period of time where I was playing 10-11 sets a day six days a week. When you are playing professionally you find yourself in a host of interesting situations with unique challenges. These challenges help you learn a great deal along the way. I still study what we do and discuss playing quite often with other professional musicians. All that being said I think it is when you know the difference between playing correctly and in correctly you will finally grow. We have to be self-aware. Teachers can show you things to do and do their best to explain how to do them. They can point out when you were doing things incorrectly and do their best to provide you a correct way to play. It is the player that must make the correction stick after all it is the student that must take responsibility for the information and apply it correctly. There is a level of maturity and self awareness that must be reached before this can happen. Without knowing the difference between right and wrong we are free to back ourselves into many different corners. Even after years of playing it is still a good thing to get a systems check once in a while. We spend hours by ourselves practicing it is Paramont that these are not hours wasted. Best Jon

    • @erikandreasbonde551
      @erikandreasbonde551 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rufftips
      Hi Jon.
      So nice writing with you. Thank you for your time and for all the wise words. Best to you from me😊
      Erik from Denmark

  • @Cola96K
    @Cola96K 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I entirely trust you , but I must say I find it difficult to rest when there's so many things to learn usually in a very short amount of time, plus the pressure of competition, gigging and performance related to the toughness of music industry. I hope I find the courage to slow down as you suggest

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that focusing on the necessary or most urgent demands is a human response to stress or pressure. Finding creative ways to cover the most urgent tasks as well as the things we want to accomplish is the key to defining priorities and processes. We can practice without the horn on our face. Reviewing music without the horn is a viable way to studying. Listening to music especially things we are being tasked to play is also a fantastic approach. Visualization has been proved to be a very powerful tool for the professional athlete. Get yourself out of the box and use that abstract mind that musicians have. Best, Jon

  • @icemanlee666
    @icemanlee666 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    good advice, I've been playing just over a week and I'm loving it, but I think I've been overdoing it as I've got jaw ache, is it normal for this early on I can play the low C easily but I struggle with the G which tends to make the jaw ache, but most teach yourself books seem to start on the G even though the C seems easier to get, have you any guide to minutes a day a beginner should practise?

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Lee Crofts Without seeing what you are doing it is very difficult to ay why the jaw is getting sore. This is not a typical issue with beginning players. I would take a good look at this video Charlie is incredible and describes the embouchure exceedingly well in this video. th-cam.com/video/Q17qIjoZ0-k/w-d-xo.html
      You should be relaxed and not contorting in any way. Fatigue might appear in the corners of the mouth and possibly in the lips. I would do 3, 15-minute sessions or 4, 10 minute sessions a day and spread them out morning noon and nigh if possible. No more than 20 minutes at a time for the first couple of months then work up to 3 20 minute sessions or 2, 30 minute sessions. After that well enjoy.
      Best, Jon

  • @jamesdrogers
    @jamesdrogers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hilarious!

  • @FlipJanson_
    @FlipJanson_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:36, wish my section leader would have known that during our marching season last year...

  • @CheapChampagne1
    @CheapChampagne1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for some great advice. What's that horn you're playing? It's beautiful.

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +MrAxSAP This horn is a Stomvi USA model. It is basically my backup instrument. I enjoy playing it; it plays great and I think it has a wonderful sound. Best, Jon

  • @vranhyre
    @vranhyre 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are your thoughts on pedal tones?

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +justin pugh Pedal tones have value. I caution playing them too much or to hard/loud when working on them. There are a lot of methods that use pedal tones as a part of the daily routine. There are trumpet players and teachers alike that absolutely insist they should be studied. I did work on them daily when I was younger but I stopped working on them below pedal C#. They are primarily used to teach the player to relax the embouchure or demonstrate the feeling of an open or unfurled set. This unfurled embouchure is to many the secret to the extreme upper register. It is widely stated that if you can play a pedal C open no valves this is the embouchure set that you use to play a double C. It is also said that you must play pedals to play in the high register. I simply will state that they have their value and should be played in moderation like most things we do. Best, Jon

  • @krakenjm6877
    @krakenjm6877 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadly (or maybe not so sadly) I have so much free time as a senior that I end up having 4-5 hours of free practice time in school and now I can last longer than the flute players in terms of endurance because I practice so much...

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      KrakenJM well done

  • @tallikimanimusic7127
    @tallikimanimusic7127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:57 😂

  • @trumpetman
    @trumpetman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, I've overdone it again for the umpteenth time since watching this video lol.

    • @Rufftips
      @Rufftips  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      J-Mo it happens... so how to recover and how to reduce the severity of our damage becomes the focus. Recover first then acknowledge the process that brought you here again. Examine if there are ways to reduce this process. Are there things you can do while playing that will limit the harm to your chops. Can you reduce the amount of playing in some way. We all have a week here and there that is completely loaded. It can be hard to turn down playing opportunities but if it is an option that might save you from the beating. Heal well and be smart. Best Jon

  • @mauromateosax
    @mauromateosax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:38 without context

  • @trumpetboss5483
    @trumpetboss5483 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey man save it for performance you will hurt yourself while doing this video

  • @skrame01
    @skrame01 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do protect my village from intruders!