Wow. I didn't thought that there will be episode about my country's mountain. Good job. I hope that there will be more episode about my country's mysteries.
Really enjoy these stories. Must also say I really like the charcoal style illustrations involved with these stories. Who ever does the artwork is incredible. Please don't change that illustration style it goes well with the story telling and helps to reinforce the mysterious sometimes other worldly mood.
Can we just stop, give a nod in the direction of, and props to, the man who over-hears a missing family's - and total stranger's - plight, in a tavern, only for him to mount his own rescue mission the next day? Brig. Gen. Zaruski, I salute you, sir.
Lame... Now Major General Robert Ross was the Stuff of Legends, with some real Swagger, like that time he defied the Kings Orders, marched to DC, like a Gentleman sat down to Dinner at the White House, than burnt that Mitch to the Ground! Like a Ross!
Bartender: A family has gone missing in the mountains! Polish General: So? Not my problem. Bartender: They’ve probably got alcohol. Polish General: I’m on my way! Note: I am myself of Polish ancestry and just joking around.
Believe it or not, this was not the first time Mariusz Zaruski had rescued a lone female survivor of a lost party in the Tatra mountains. In 1914 he led a rescue party that saved Maria Bandrowski, after she had lost her brother and his fiancee to a fall. I feel Wasserberger also deserves praise, his actions to help the family cost him his own life.
I was up in the Tatra Mountains with two friends this summer. It is a super beautiful area, but as with all such mountain areas one should be really careful not to be too ambitious with the route one chooses. The route we intended to go turned up to be closed for descend in the direction we were heading, so we had to choose an alternative route. This one turned out to be much much longer than we anticipated, and none of us, especially my female friend, were super good with traversing that kind of terrain. At the same time the weather changed suddenly, starting to rain and thunder, making it semi dangerous to climb on the mountain. We were all beyond exhausted when we finally made it back to the starting point, and I am just happy that nothing bad happened which it easily could have.
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 nope, nature is a noble and beautiful Madam but for the love of your life... she deserves respect! those who do not respect her, who mess with her in an overconfident manner, ...die...
I passed though those mountains many years ago, in the spring, but it was still like winter there. Though beautiful, they are eerie because they are surrounded by habitations and highways, which conceal a strangely inhospitable aspect from the tourist.
Always trek prepared , even when on small trips bring basic stuff. Water , warm , dry cloths , flashlight , fire starting stuff , knife , food. ALWAYS!!
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I gotta say tho, the quality of Bedtime Stories and Bob Gymlan is amazing, and the exact reason why Netflix should never have the opportunity to ruin it like they do everything else
we used to visit the tatras when I was a kid with my parents and as an adult I went there a few times by myself, and I always had an ominous feeling while hiking there once I went to the "Great Hincovo Tarn" and the next day I heard on the news that a guy fell and died not far from where I was, it still gives me chills when I think about it
I went swimming at the holiday Inn once, only to find out hours later someone crapped in the pool.. I still get chills thinking about it.. Like, what if.. I was in the pool when it happened?!. Thank God I listened to my magic 8ball that day.
I'm from Poland and I were many times in Tatra with my parents and brothers. And I seriously never heard of this story. This gives me a little chill to my spine
I have a theory: could it be possible the three victims accidentally drank tainted water from a stream or brackish pond? If the Tatra mountains had mining going on at the time there could have been runoff from hypothetical mines that got into the water or else some kind of algae. The three victims, wanting to refill empty canteens might have refilled from what they thought was clean water only to have it laced with heavy metals or algae blooms which affected all three victims. Depending on how much water they drank the father and son could have been the first and second victims due to their heart conditions with the third hiker being the last to finally pass away. After all it was noted he was in good health. Of course it could also be possible they accidentally consumed a poisonous fungi or berry. I’m not at all familiar with the Tatra mountain region (I’m from America) nor do I know a lot about what can cause the body to go into the state the victims were found in so if a person familiar with heart conditions and the Tatra mountains (specifically if there was ever any mining and what type of flora can be found in that area) that would be great.
@@stefanschleps8758 Thanks. I have a bit of knowledge on poisonous plants and fungi from my time in girl scots and where I lived in Connecticut my house was bordered by a park so I used to go hiking with my family through the nearby forest so I know a bit about fungi and berries. Unfortunately I don’t know if there were any tests developed around that time to pinpoint traces of heavy metals in the body because if it happened today in a forest that’s one of the first tests I would conduct. Depending on how much water they consumed (it was described as a summer day which means high heat so that means they probably consumed a ton of water which necessitated the refill of canteens) the heavy metals could have built up poisoning them and lead the three victims to their deaths. Of course this can also apply with the consumption of poisonous plants and fungi. There is a problem however: the third victim was an experienced hiker so he should have had knowledge of the local flora and fungi if he had hiked through that area a ton of times. I just think it was something in the water.
Well authopsy said there were no signs of poison and algae dont really bloom in Poland, especially at this altitude. The mining one could be more plausible but the problem with this theory is the fact how often the trail is and was taken by people, there would more than one case like this for sure, over the years. Mercury also dont usually give immidietly response.
@@Midnight1138 Interesting…the poisoning was the first theory that popped into my head. If Waleria didn’t drink as much or even any water from the refilled canteens then she was very fortunate.
I have never, ever heard of this story in my life and I live in Poland...then again in a completely different region than Tatras are in. It's over 4 hours drive from my city(372km/231.15 miles). We have a different mountain chain closer tho and that's where people go for weekend trips. Tatras is more like Winter Break/Vacation place. It is picturesque tho...I've got to agree. Air is certainly a bit cleaner up top.
it’s a tiredness that weighs heavy in the chest. It happened to me one time after losing my dirtbike in a valley and having to walk back to the road in full gear and misty wet conditions, with the sun going down . Near the top of the mountain ridge out of the valley I immediately became too tired to walk, then after sitting down in the mud I began to feel so tired I wanted to go to sleep. Every time I closed my eyes, mentally something was telling me it would only be a minute of rest, & I began to mentally freak out. kept Trying to wake up and keep my eyes open. It felt like I went from being okay, hiking steady to deathly intoxicated and wanting to blackout. After about what felt like an eternity of this struggle I crawled to my knees and then to my feet, and walking another 20 feet or so I felt normal again. Checked my phone & I had been there about 20 minutes. In another 100 feet I felt strong again and jogged the way down the other side of the mountain. I was a running athlete at the time this happened, I was well hydrated and I had been having healthy snacks all throughout the day. My gear wasn’t too heavy either about 30lbs total with boots, pack, helmet, clothing, water and snacks. You get so tired you can’t control yourself. I got my dirtbike back after a week, I double rode in with tools and fixed the problem. My bike is a 97 and it lost ignition from the conditions being too wet when the lighting coil wire got damaged and lost its water seal.
I thought you were gonna say when you looked down at your phone you felt like you had been walking for hours only to realize you had just ditched your dirt bike like five min earlier. Ha.
Heh, this is basically what depression feels like to me. I dunno how many times I have had to just lay down in the woods or on a small road while out and about with my dogs. Once I fell asleep in some tall grass while checking in on my horses. Luckily, I am much better now and not as exhausted nearly as often.
Reminds me of a 411 case where father and son got lost while hunting and the son became very weak for no reason then disappeared while his father was moving towards what he thought were headlights
I watched that piece. scary, murderously so. Lights, orbs' are NO good. Don't follow them; Min Min lights in the Boulia region, of Western Qld, Australia; is famed for these glowing orbs. People follow them and become lost easily, almost walk off creek banks and other potential misadventure. Crop circle formation and other high weirdness! So, so much out there. We are clearly not the dominant species on this planet! My one cent. Interesting story, very scary!
I used to go to the Tatra mountains as a kid with my family and school. And back then, there were no mysteries as everything could be explained by tourists being ill-equipped or wearing flip-flops on a mountain hike 🤦♀️🤷♀️
I would NEVER go there in flip flips or sandals... I go there barefoot 💪 and the sight of torn up, smelly feet, chased off all evil up there. TATRAs cleansed!
I just want to say how much I love the closing music. Such a creepy tag to the tale. It's the unsung hero as it gives the story's mood and close a moment to sink in rather than just have the next TH-cam recommendation load in with some moment killing advert. Brilliant channel.
Alcohol is a vasodilator. So, given they were likely dealing with hypothermia, the body restricts blood flow to the extremities to keep the core warmer. The alcohol reverses this process. She did not ingest the alcohol and it likely saved her life.
I remember reading with some disbelief the account in the book 'A Night to Remember'(by Walter Lord), in which the Titanic's baker, Johin(?), thoroughly "insulated" himself with spirits before calmly dropping into the freezing seawater. Apparently, he survived tho' my naval training taught me just how short a time one can last in water of that temperature combined with the deleterious effect of spirits!
This seems to me to be most likely. Missing a lot of details but the family was most likely ill-prepared, and not too fit. It has hypothermia written all over it.
This is most likely reason. The alcohol is the main variable between the male deaths and mother living. No mention of BMI and if the Mother were heavier with more insulating fat which is a characteristic of females compared to men, it may have reduced the hypothermia severity in her.
I'm late to the party, having just discovered your channel a couple of days ago, but I'm sure enjoying bingeing! Well researched and written stories with beautifully rendered illustrations, and intelligent, professional narration. SO rare these days, and so welcome.
Wow, I live in Poland and never heard of this story (I jokingly expected that you were about to talk of the "mystery" of why people go up those mountains in shorts during winter; which happens amazingly often...), thanks for making this video about it^^
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I’m from Poland and have hiked alone in Tatra mountains many times. Never heard of these stories before. This area is absolutely stunning and very much lush fairy tale vibes. Although I’m sure I won’t hike alone again after hearing these stories. Thank you for doing such amazing research and sharing this with us.
I do the same thing, nothing creepy about going to sleep with this kind of stuff. I'm a regular Joe that would never do anything creepy to another human being.
I think the boulder was probably smaller in height than our artist drew, like a thick boulder field on the shore of a lake. There is sometimes some miscommunication between artwork and writing 😂
But she said the other two were sitting next to each other but were found at separate boulders. Its a but suss that _all_ the body positions were wrong
@@bloodyneptune According to Waleria's story she remained with the dead bodies for almost two days after the deaths. Little creepy when you think about it... but in theory she had lots of time to move the bodies to any position she wanted. Question is why would she do that? Very weird mystery indeed.
@@Clemppu Not creepy at all. Dead people aren't creepy, they're just dead. Then the question why would she do that? It's her fucking child. Of course she wouldn't leave her baby until she absolutely had to. Secondly, the first thing you're taught in wilderness survival is STAY IN PLACE!! WAIT FOR RESCUE!! She didn't do anything wrong.
@@paulbegley1464 Its quite interesting. A lot of countries have such stories. But America has very strong pop culture so naturally their stories are far more popular.
With all the stories of mysterious deaths in damn near every environment on this planet, one wonders if its safe for anyone to go anywhere anymore. Still, very good story here. Thanks for bringing these to light.
@@eyecomeinpeace2707 Well.. there's a Million Ways to Die.... at home and in the woods... the real trick is dealing with known dangers. it's the UNknown dangers that'll get you.
@@eyecomeinpeace2707 most people die in their homes. In any case, there is no "safe place" to protect one from death in this reality. In my personal opinion it is best to not worry about the possibility of death, it will come for all of us at some point and the only comforting thing about it is: when it happens, one does not have to worry about it anymore.
Love this one, native to southern Poland but never heard of it. Just a polite hiking reminder: Tatras might be not Alps indeed but those are 6000ft plus mountains none the less. Emilcin Abduction from 1978 case would make great obscure fringe case episode :)
I kept waiting for the narration to notice that the bodies were found in positions and conditions that didn't really match up with Waleria's account. Granted she still has no motive, ultimately, but that discrepancy would seem suspicious.
@@osakarose5612 Yeah this definitely has missing info. But, given the circumstances... It's workable that Waleria was simply inexact in what she said, and not necessarily incorrect. Perhaps she tried to help her husband become more comfortable? Thus while he was dying she helped him stagger to a rock that he laid out on when he finally died? What I'm really wondering though.... a possibility that, as someone with first aid training, I think of that she probably lacked the training to even consider... were they dead when she left them laying in the snow? Is it possible they might have recovered if she'd wrapped them in blankets? I dunno. :/
It looks awfully similar to that case in Russia, if I remember well, 3 out of 4 people died almost at the same time and in similar conditions. To this day no one knows exactly what happened, I used to think it was similar to the Diatlov Pass incident but now it looks like an exact copy of this polish tragedy.
My thoughts also went to poison. One that can cause pulmonary edema, and isn’t easily traceable, is ricin. It can be faster acting if inhaled. There may have been some on their clothing, and also in the brandy. I’m not sure how to explain why the wife wasn’t affected, though.
I'm sure it's mountains disease. This story has a carbon copy in the form of Hamar-Daban tragedy. It's eerily similair. Not very high mountains, shit weather, young and healthy men and women dying one by one in a span of minutes, the strongest and healthiest is the first to fall and die, only one woman is not affected and ends up being saved after a few days.
This definitely lends credence to the idea that she killed them with poisoned cognac. If I'm not mistaken, this occured around the same time as the Hinterkaifek murders, and the police forensics on that were pretty appalling. I wouldn't be surprised if the Polish authorities just across the border and a mere 3 years later couldn't find traces of ricin that were present in the victim's bloodstream. The question is whether she knew or not. It could have been some kind of elaborate poisoning by a rival, but considering that it was her own flask, that she was the only one that didn't drink from it, and also shielded her rescuer from drinking from his canteen (it was his own, but in her confusion she may have mistaken it for her own cognac flask), it seems pretty likely that she knew what she was doing. Might have simply faked being depressed for a few years before she remarried.
You don’t have to poison alcohol in such icy conditions. Clearly people don’t understand you cannot drink alcohol in below freezing weather. It will absolutely kill you
Got called into work unexpectedly today but it was made ip for by a new BTS upload. Intriguing story I've never heard before and in a location that's unfamiliar to me. I couldn't help but draw immediate parallels to an incident in California just 3 or 4 months ago. A married couple, their infant daughter and their dog all were found dead on a hiking trail all close to each other. Much mystery as to the cause but the coroner concluded hyperthermia. Reasonable for temps. were about 105°F/40°C but their body masses varied significantly. Not the same conditions as the Tatra hikers but just as mysterious.
What a fascinating story. You guys did a great job with it as usual. But there is a part of this story that I am honestly rather surprised wasn’t explored at all, despite to me seeming like it is very deserving of some deeper exploration. I am referring to Wasserberger.. His role in the story was kind of glossed over despite being rather confusing about why he chose to do what he did. Why did he choose to leave his three companions in order to join the party of the husband and wife and child? What was it that made him feel compelled to do that despite not knowing them at all apparently? What is his background? Did he have any connections to any of the three members of that family? I’m not saying he did it. But I’m just stunned that it wasn’t mentioned or explored at all. Especially considering the fact that he wasn’t even with them. But then decided to leave the group he went with initially in order to “help“ people he’s never met before. Bizarre.
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This reminds me of a case in California earlier. A couple, their child, and dog disappeared on a hiking trip. The woman was farther along the trail then the man and child. The dog was near the man. They had partly fill water bottles.
Officials determined they died of heat stroke/dehydration. They only brought half the recommended amount of water for 1 adult, and this was 2 adults, a baby and a dog. Officials theorize the dad (who had the baby on a sling) sat down with the baby to try and cool off, and the mother continued on to try and get to the car and get help, but eventually succumbed to the heat as well.
Yes. Very similar indeed. The official explanation of hyperthermia is very difficult to accept. The family was seen earlier in the day of their day hike and seemed in great spirits and not asking for any assistance. If you consider that their dog also succumbed to some unknown force, we still have a true mystery on our hands. Even if the family got caught without enough water, the dog could have easily found water to drink and make it.
@@macioluko9484 Well... not sure which case you mean, but... if they really did run out of water, they probably didn't have their outlook change until it was too late. It's pretty easy to not notice when you're busy and trying to accomplish a task. You feel fine... for several hours after the point where you should have rehydrated. then when you realize you don't have enough water you try and make it last... by waiting... until it's too late. As for the dog... it didn't know where it was going. It may have just sat down and waited for the Humans to show it where to go.
@@lexibat7829 when they began the hike the temp was low 70s. By the time they turned around to turn back, the temp was rising and if I recall correctly, got up to 109 degree heat in full sun. The father sat down with the baby and the dog and the wife, who was found further away, tried to make it to the car, but didn't. Their dog was a long-haired breed as well and was probably suffering pretty badly long before they died. It's not like they dropped dead. It just got to a point where they physically could not continue, and then died shortly thereafter. It's not some great mystery. It's unusual, sure, but they made numerous missteps and they died as a result. Their prior hikes on the same trail is probably why they thought it would be easy and didn't bring enough water.
@@lexibat7829 It's a lot less spooky if you take out that "within moments" bit. no freaking way a coroner would say that. Minutes maybe.... but not "moments"... Also the actual time of death in hyperthermia cases is not the same as when the person stops moving. It's very much one of those "sit down to rest, fall asleep, wake up dead" things. it might be hours between those three steps. That's not the same as dying simultaneously. Hmm welll looking it up... I'd not call them "experienced" hikers. novices who'd gone hiking without dying before, yes, but.... they seem to be the kind of hiker more enthusiastic than skilled. Hmmm quickie timeline: they went hiking the 15th, got reported missing the 16th, and no one started looking until the 17th. Finding them was quick as all the searchers had to do was walk the trail. Hmmm reading a more in-depth description... it (the Hites Cove trail) is a big loop trail and they died in the coming back part. They were about 3/4 of the way done, but... were hiking uphill at the time they stopped. Around half the way in fact. Too far up hill to just go back down to the bottom to get water. While they hadn't drunk ALL of their water, they'd drunk most of it. looking at that... and knowing how hot it was that day.. very believable they over-estimated their hiking ability.
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It sounds like the deaths may have been caused by high-altitude pulmonary edema (HAPE). Possibly, ascending to a high altitude, being exposed to severe weather, then descending again quickly while exerting themselves caused the rapid onset. Heart defects are also known to make individuals more susceptible to HAPE.
I was going to say the experienced climber would know better, but then I remembered how many "expert" climbers die like this on everest. it's definitely possible
I do not think that they were at high enough altitudes for that to happen, and since the family was traveling slowly, they were not ascending and descending fast enough for that to have happened anyway...
Thank you for letting me know about these incidents i have never heard of. its intriguing to learn about mysteries and mourn these unfortunate people who has, in worst cases, lost their lives.
I heard if you've been good enough and ate your greens all year, that Father Bedtime will even hit replay on your 4hr asmr sleep videos, and turn out your big lights! 🎅
Such a great title , bedtime stories, because that's exactly what we do. Have some fun and then get into the bedtime stories. Seriously though we have grown to love your platform. Honestly for us there's nothing quite like a paranormal story about haunted or missing ships.
This tragic event has similarities with the Khamar Daban incident or what some people refer to as Dyatlov Pass Chapter two. Keep in mind that in both incidents, there was a rain event before the hikers fell ill. One theory is that the ground was contaminated with remains of biological weapons used by the soviet regime. The rain must have caused the particles in the ground to get into the air and the hikers eventually inhale them. There was also a female survivor in both cases. In this case, it is possible that the alcohol consumed by the hikers caused their condition to worsen and eventually killed them. But if you haven't heard of the Khamar Daban incident, it is also tragically interesting story. Keep up the good work with these stories!!!!
I saw the similarities, too. The survivor also comes under suspicion for being involved in the deaths, even if they had no personal part to play in them.
I actually was thinking something similar but with water consumption. My theory is the three males must have refilled their canteens with water contaminated by heavy metals or else algae bloom. I have no clue if there was ever any mining going on in the Tatra mountains so I have no possible way of confirming or denying this theory plus I don’t understand Polish which means even if I was able to get a hold of autopsy records I wouldn’t be able to decipher them.
Interesting story as always due to the writing of Simon Andrews. A nod to the fantastic drawing by Mikey Turcanu which drew me in from the start. And of course Richard While the voice of the story. Well done, all of you in the production of "Bedtime Stories". I will say that while the other 2 men drank of the hip flask; the boy ate of a candy bar. So, that shoots that theory down right there.✌
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First, those illustrations are really beautiful - bravo Mikey. I love the effects which you get with simple black and white. A very strange story, new to me, here in England. At a personal guess, hypothermia and exposure or something similar may have been involved - the deteriorating weather left them badly chilled and exhausted, bringing on the latent heart problems in father and son. Had they rurned back sooner, might they have survived? What really puzzles me though is the apparent fact that the bodies had been moved - who or what by, when and how? Or is that simply a sad fact of Waleria's memory being at fault?
12:46 - This is an incredible tale. But my immediate instinct is, she meant to poison her husband and accidentally, the other 2 have consumed whatever it was also. But, like trying to guess what's going on in a movie, I have no reason to believe I'm right
Chilling, I've been going to the tatra mountains since I was a little kid. I've probably walked in the places these people have died. Even had some terrifying experiences in there. Like sudden flares of thick fog overcoming us, accompanied by unnatural silence. No birds, no wind, nothing.
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I actually mentioned this mysterious case of the Kasznica family in my master's thesis about TOPR, the Tatra mountain rescue service founded by general Zaruski. Amazing guy, apart from being a top notch mountaineer of his era (numerous first ascents on many difficult rugged peaks in Tatras) he was equally as accomplished a seafarer, and a great patriot. I also believe I might have experienced something weird in the very area of the incident (Jaworowa valley, under Lodowy peak) - during one of my excursions I felt a sort of a compassion for my exhausted body, but as if from another person's perspective, as though I felt it for some other person, in other words. Does it count as a peculiar type of an out of body experience? :) P.S. I tip my hat to you for making a video on my beloved Mountains 🙂
I wondered if the Frog Pond might have belched something up, like methane. High concentrations of it can cause pulmonary edema. Could Waleria have been positioned so that she didn't get as much exposure to swamp gas? Just a thought.
I'm about three-quarters of the way through but can't stop thinking about a certain Theory I've had about these types of cases. A lot of these cases mentioned a certain amount of howling wind or wind picking up at some point receiving some kind of extremely strange illnesses and deaths among a select group. Is there anything in nature that might cause some type of aggressive ultrasound illness or death? Maybe this type of ultrasonic attack that is naturally occurring only affects people who are genetically predisposed due to some type of inner ear and cranial characteristics?
WHAT! :-) Seeing the notification, I nearly feel from my chair and counted the amount of coffee I have drunk today. Tatra Mountains is something really really familiar to me. I am just now writing my thesis (is is morning in Europe), which includes an observatory in... well, Tatras! Tatra is also the name on traditional automotive factory is near my birthplace. Well, actually I know about another mountains in Slovakia, where people notoriously disappeared... Tatras are in here known rather as an attractive tourist spot, where you cannot camp at all (Slovak laws) and you can easily get lost of injured. At least, this is about Polish tourists, not Czech ones who
I was near where they died just this summer. On the Czech side it's a really eerie area, even during peak tourism season. I think the most likely explanation is, quote (sry for using google translate) "It could happen that when they were blinded and deafened by the hurricane wind, they turned their backs to the wind so that it would blow at their backs and the backs of their heads, and this pressure could cause a vacuum to be created in front of the face - explains Maciej Bielawski."
The story says he dropped to his knees by the frog pond and died and the other two guys died close by. Wasn't there a story about people and hundreds of sheep that died from co2 gas released from a nearby lake? They died within minutes. They have since found a way to place pipes into the lake and release the gas. Maybe the frog pond released co2 and the woman was just not close enough to be affected.
Well, idk if it helps, but the Ice Pass is definitely not an easy place to traverse, both exhausting and quite difficult, compared to the most of Tatra Mountains. Another thing worth noting is the Mountains rising way above their neighbourhood, despite being around 30% lower than Alps etc. as both Slovakia and Poland are realy flat countries.
General Mariusz (not Marian) Zaruski was really a prominent figure of interwar Poland. He initiated both mountain tourism as well as sports yachting in that country. He was killed by the Soviets after their invasion of Poland 1939. Today, there is a Polish tall ship named after him.
An interesting story, sadly, I doubt we will ever know what really happened, certainly the technics used in the autopsies of the time would be rather poor at best compared to modern forensic studies available today.
Honestly, I really think that what happened is the harsh weather truly did weaken them, the father was not an experienced hiker, the little boy obviously wasn't and the more experienced hiker then carried the little boy to the frog pond from the original location the boy wasn't able to walk from. He would have been exhausted from traversing the weather for hours and then having to carry when more weight, maybe by the time they got to the frog pond their bodies survival instinct ran out and they could safely die I suppose. The wife said she heard a thump and the hiker had fallen, its very possible he landed on his own arm and broke it while also hitting his head. It's not unreasonable for someone who is completely exhausted to fall as dead weight and hurt themselves after trying to walk. Many animals will wait until they're in a safe place to die, its likely the same for humans. Why Waleria survived? Who knows, she didn't have the heart defect and wasn't carrying a ton of extra weight so maybe she got lucky enough to handle the trip up the mountain and make it out alive (barely)
That and perhaps consumption of tainted water. If they refilled their canteens from a stream it could be possible the stream was, hypothetically, tainted by runoff from mining. If Waleria consumed a bit of tainted water she was probably lucky enough to survive. Of course this all depends on if there was any mining going on in the area when this case occurred.
A truly challenging mystery. One worthy to be featured in an episode of C.S.I. Crime Scene Investigation or Criminal Minds. Or a stand alone motion picture. My first thought had to be altitude sickness or thin air. These would fall under ASM. The woman might have a physical condition that aided her in her survival since it is known that women have a high pain tolerance/threshold. She gave her son some chocolate. That can’t be tainted. Another theory is that they had breakfast before starting out. Could that meal have been poisoned? Not likely. Three male victims. One female survivor. One unsolved mystery. Great narration and artwork as always. Have a happy, healthy, safe, sane, prosperous and blessed holiday season. Looking forward to watching more Bedtime Stories episodes next year.
This reminds me of a similar incident that I think happened in the US in the 19th century, if I'm not mistaken. A sililar sized group of people suddenly fell seriously ill whilst campin g in the wilderness. Nobody could work out what had happened to them until somebody decided to test the remaining liquid in one of the group's drinking flask. Basically the pathologist suspected some sort of poison was to blame but who would have poisoned the entire group and themselves with a fatal dose of poison? Everyone was baffled until the poison was identified. It was snake venom. But how could one snake, or a lot of snakes, suddenly bite all these campers and that is forgetting that not a single bite could be found on a single victim. the answer was finally found many months later after a whisky storage shed of some sort (maybe bootleggers, I cant remember to be honest) was found with many barrels stored there. The barrels were smashed open and to ebverybody's utter astonishment several dead snakes (cant remember actual type of snake but I'm pretty sure it was not a rattlesnake, could be wrong) were found at the bottom. Whatever type of snake it was it was hibernation that caused them to find somewhere dry and warm and the shed was ideal, then what better place than a nice barrel?
Don't talk shit buddy, the protein-based toxins of snake venom need to get into your bloodstream to cause substantial damage. If you swallowed it, your stomach acids and digestive enzymes would break it down. It would be as if you never took a sip.
Snake venom is a pure protein...like egg-yolks. Eating egg-yolks is fine; but, injecting it into your blood-stream would be fatal. You could eat snake venom, and nothing would happen to you. If you had a cut in your gums/mouth, it COULD get into your blood-stream; however, it being diluted in that much alcohol wouldn't be enough to kill anyone in that way. Also, the alcohol will "denature" the venom; making it almost completely harmless. In fact, there are certain alcohols which have the heads of some VERY venomous snakes inside the bottles; the venom in the alcohol is a selling point of those alcohols. Do a search for "snake wine" in Google and see for yourself. I'm betting they were killed by some heavy-metals; or, some sort of poison they ate; but, since it was within the 19th Century (the 1800s), the forensics weren't as good as they are today; and, someone missed something, or didn't know what to look for.
@@BrockLee3 Most likely that’s the answer. As to snake wine no thank you!!!! I’ll stick to craft beer, fine wine, craft cocktails and craft apple pie moonshine (one of my weaknesses) for my alcoholic delights.
It would be very nice for you to narrate the story of.. The Grey Man of Ben MacDhui In the Cairn Gorms Ive been twice to climb up Ben MacDhui & its a strange feeling i cant say ive ever had before! Its a very strange strangeness A creeping uneasy atmosphere which ramps up slowly, taking you off guard... But the real frightener is when the grey moist mist appears from no where & all you can think of is the plodding footsteps behind you, shuffle shuffle & its ice water down your spine...its what you imagine I had to sing when i got too nervy & im tone deaf & sound like im kidding, im so tuneless but it was the only thing i could do to keep Jolly, Its more a feeling, a sensation & the impression that someone not of this realm is following you but can be in front of you, by the side of you or behind you all at the same time. Im not prone to fancy & dont usually get jittery but in places on Ben MacDhui theres a palpable Fear... yet.. from nature itself Dont know how long it would take you to tell the tale, but i reckon about 18mins would seal the deal. Its worth visiting, ive been twice Different season, different time periods & both visits were wistful, poignant, beautiful & very earthy & a feeling of before time existed. The Grey Man is a kind of Elemental spirit sometimes manifest or just presence but Being there stirs up something within a person, getting you stripped to your grass roots & laying your soul & spirit bare. Back to the essence of yourself & that IN itself can be very scary but you owe it to yourself to feel Accounted for & deemed your doing it right, your ok! Cheers & Peace 🇬🇧👧🕊
Can you guys do one on a caving/spelunking story caving is so claustrophobic inducing even from simply watching from behind a screen. It would be awesome!
My first thought when watching this was maybe the three died from poisonous gas like hydrogen sulfide. It doesn’t take much of that to kill. It’s heavier than air so it’s possible that the three who died might’ve done something as simple as bend down while walking through it; the husband was already weak and stopping to clear his glasses and the child was probably shorter. Admittedly there’s a lot we don’t know and even that explanation raises questions but it was my immediate thought.
Since they were found near a lake, I wonder if there was something noxious in the thick fog arising from it. Some lakes can emit hydrogen sulfide from decaying plant matter. H2S usually just gives off a bad smell, but in high enough concentrations causes *pulmonary edema* . No idea if this applies here, but high altitude lakes do have some strange properties and few have been studied in depth. Perhaps Valeria survived because the brandy exacerbated the effects, or because women breathe in lesser volumes of air and it dissipated before she got a lethal dose.
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Wait what!? Is already Christmas!?
Wow.
I didn't thought that there will be episode about my country's mountain. Good job.
I hope that there will be more episode about my country's mysteries.
Really enjoy these stories. Must also say I really like the charcoal style illustrations involved with these stories. Who ever does the artwork is incredible. Please don't change that illustration style it goes well with the story telling and helps to reinforce the mysterious sometimes other worldly mood.
I love how you guys have been putting in small animated bits.
How do you know he had never felt more alive?
Can we just stop, give a nod in the direction of, and props to, the man who over-hears a missing family's - and total stranger's - plight, in a tavern, only for him to mount his own rescue mission the next day? Brig. Gen. Zaruski, I salute you, sir.
couldn't agree more 👍👍
Absolutely. Not enough of those people around.
Lame... Now Major General Robert Ross was the Stuff of Legends, with some real Swagger, like that time he defied the Kings Orders, marched to DC, like a Gentleman sat down to Dinner at the White House, than burnt that Mitch to the Ground! Like a Ross!
Bartender: A family has gone missing in the mountains!
Polish General: So? Not my problem.
Bartender: They’ve probably got alcohol.
Polish General: I’m on my way!
Note: I am myself of Polish ancestry and just joking around.
NO! Must. Listen. Now.
* totally agree I'm just a mouthy arse ;P
one thing i like about bedtime stories is that they treat the unfortune people caught in these events with a degree of respect and consolation.
Amen
Indeed. ❤️❤️❤️
That's true
Who cares
So we should give respect too people who do something stupid
Believe it or not, this was not the first time Mariusz Zaruski had rescued a lone female survivor of a lost party in the Tatra mountains. In 1914 he led a rescue party that saved Maria Bandrowski, after she had lost her brother and his fiancee to a fall. I feel Wasserberger also deserves praise, his actions to help the family cost him his own life.
Sounds like foul play
Bandrowska*
Ski is male ska is female
I'm starting to think he makes them go missing now
@@malachisguides Highly unlikely.
You must be referring to the Drege Couloir tragedy in the Granaty massif.
I was up in the Tatra Mountains with two friends this summer. It is a super beautiful area, but as with all such mountain areas one should be really careful not to be too ambitious with the route one chooses. The route we intended to go turned up to be closed for descend in the direction we were heading, so we had to choose an alternative route. This one turned out to be much much longer than we anticipated, and none of us, especially my female friend, were super good with traversing that kind of terrain. At the same time the weather changed suddenly, starting to rain and thunder, making it semi dangerous to climb on the mountain. We were all beyond exhausted when we finally made it back to the starting point, and I am just happy that nothing bad happened which it easily could have.
no shit. nature's a bitch
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 nope, nature is a noble and beautiful Madam
but for the love of your life... she deserves respect!
those who do not respect her, who mess with her in an overconfident manner,
...die...
@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 I commend you on your choice of names…I actually LOL’d at the mental picture it instantly gave me! Well done 🤣
I passed though those mountains many years ago, in the spring, but it was still like winter there. Though beautiful, they are eerie because they are surrounded by habitations and highways, which conceal a strangely inhospitable aspect from the tourist.
Always trek prepared , even when on small trips bring basic stuff. Water , warm , dry cloths , flashlight , fire starting stuff , knife , food. ALWAYS!!
I love seeing all these stories that I would otherwise have never heard of. Thanks for doing all the research.
I wanted to give you a thumbs up but at the time of this comment your likes were at 69 and i didn't want to be the one to ruin that
We have very similar subs fellow prepper!
@@AlexT-md9df That's awesome!
If this show was on Netflix, it would absolutely explode. Nothing comes close to its originality or attention to detail. Bravo 👏
hold on im a let you finish but bob gymlan has the most original channel and attention to detail on youtube
Both Bedtime Stories and Bob Gymlan are fantastic. I also love Beyond Creepy, Paranormal Junkie, Strange But True Stories, Top 5, Scary Mysteries, Destination Declassified, Missing Persons Mysteries and The Wisconsin Files.
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 also Slapped ham is a good one.
@@jameshoops10 Bob's channel is maybe a fifth of the quality and actually changed more to bedtime stories format a year after BDS launched.
I gotta say tho, the quality of Bedtime Stories and Bob Gymlan is amazing, and the exact reason why Netflix should never have the opportunity to ruin it like they do everything else
we used to visit the tatras when I was a kid with my parents and as an adult I went there a few times by myself, and I always had an ominous feeling while hiking there
once I went to the "Great Hincovo Tarn" and the next day I heard on the news that a guy fell and died not far from where I was, it still gives me chills when I think about it
I went swimming at the holiday Inn once, only to find out hours later someone crapped in the pool..
I still get chills thinking about it..
Like, what if.. I was in the pool when it happened?!.
Thank God I listened to my magic 8ball that day.
@@ontherims3284 lol scary stuff indeed
Been to Tatra mountains once. Was pretty fun time. Pretty easy hikes tbh.
"On the rims"😂😂😂
Im dead
I'm from Poland and I were many times in Tatra with my parents and brothers. And I seriously never heard of this story. This gives me a little chill to my spine
I'm American but my Maternal Grandfather's side of the family came from the Krakow/Tatras area.
I have a theory: could it be possible the three victims accidentally drank tainted water from a stream or brackish pond? If the Tatra mountains had mining going on at the time there could have been runoff from hypothetical mines that got into the water or else some kind of algae. The three victims, wanting to refill empty canteens might have refilled from what they thought was clean water only to have it laced with heavy metals or algae blooms which affected all three victims. Depending on how much water they drank the father and son could have been the first and second victims due to their heart conditions with the third hiker being the last to finally pass away. After all it was noted he was in good health. Of course it could also be possible they accidentally consumed a poisonous fungi or berry. I’m not at all familiar with the Tatra mountain region (I’m from America) nor do I know a lot about what can cause the body to go into the state the victims were found in so if a person familiar with heart conditions and the Tatra mountains (specifically if there was ever any mining and what type of flora can be found in that area) that would be great.
Curiosity and intellect go hand in hand. I like the way you think.
@@stefanschleps8758 Thanks. I have a bit of knowledge on poisonous plants and fungi from my time in girl scots and where I lived in Connecticut my house was bordered by a park so I used to go hiking with my family through the nearby forest so I know a bit about fungi and berries. Unfortunately I don’t know if there were any tests developed around that time to pinpoint traces of heavy metals in the body because if it happened today in a forest that’s one of the first tests I would conduct. Depending on how much water they consumed (it was described as a summer day which means high heat so that means they probably consumed a ton of water which necessitated the refill of canteens) the heavy metals could have built up poisoning them and lead the three victims to their deaths. Of course this can also apply with the consumption of poisonous plants and fungi. There is a problem however: the third victim was an experienced hiker so he should have had knowledge of the local flora and fungi if he had hiked through that area a ton of times. I just think it was something in the water.
Yes, miners used a lot of quicksilver (mercury) back in the day. Poisoning could very well at least have contributed to their demise.
Well authopsy said there were no signs of poison and algae dont really bloom in Poland, especially at this altitude. The mining one could be more plausible but the problem with this theory is the fact how often the trail is and was taken by people, there would more than one case like this for sure, over the years. Mercury also dont usually give immidietly response.
@@Midnight1138 Interesting…the poisoning was the first theory that popped into my head. If Waleria didn’t drink as much or even any water from the refilled canteens then she was very fortunate.
I have never, ever heard of this story in my life and I live in Poland...then again in a completely different region than Tatras are in. It's over 4 hours drive from my city(372km/231.15 miles). We have a different mountain chain closer tho and that's where people go for weekend trips. Tatras is more like Winter Break/Vacation place. It is picturesque tho...I've got to agree. Air is certainly a bit cleaner up top.
Tatry są piękne ale też zawsze mnie przerażają, pewnie przez tą pustkę i uczucie, że całe góry cię obserwują.
Polecam film o tym na kanale szczytomaniak
I never did too even when I am interested in paranormal and weirdness since beeing a kid.
Na kryminatorium wcześniej o tym usłyszałem.
@@reiraghoul4696 'całe góry cię obserwują'...To szczera prawda, nieprawdaż? Są Śpiący Rycerze którzy pozostają pod Giemontem, od czasów Bolesława I.
it’s a tiredness that weighs heavy in the chest. It happened to me one time after losing my dirtbike in a valley and having to walk back to the road in full gear and misty wet conditions, with the sun going down . Near the top of the mountain ridge out of the valley I immediately became too tired to walk, then after sitting down in the mud I began to feel so tired I wanted to go to sleep. Every time I closed my eyes, mentally something was telling me it would only be a minute of rest, & I began to mentally freak out. kept Trying to wake up and keep my eyes open. It felt like I went from being okay, hiking steady to deathly intoxicated and wanting to blackout. After about what felt like an eternity of this struggle I crawled to my knees and then to my feet, and walking another 20 feet or so I felt normal again. Checked my phone & I had been there about 20 minutes. In another 100 feet I felt strong again and jogged the way down the other side of the mountain. I was a running athlete at the time this happened, I was well hydrated and I had been having healthy snacks all throughout the day. My gear wasn’t too heavy either about 30lbs total with boots, pack, helmet, clothing, water and snacks.
You get so tired you can’t control yourself.
I got my dirtbike back after a week, I double rode in with tools and fixed the problem. My bike is a 97 and it lost ignition from the conditions being too wet when the lighting coil wire got damaged and lost its water seal.
I’ve heard multiple stories about strange tiredness coming over people
Very eloquently said....
I felt like i was there. You are a good story teller.
I thought you were gonna say when you looked down at your phone you felt like you had been walking for hours only to realize you had just ditched your dirt bike like five min earlier. Ha.
That’s crazy almost like something you can’t see trying to make you sleep
Heh, this is basically what depression feels like to me. I dunno how many times I have had to just lay down in the woods or on a small road while out and about with my dogs. Once I fell asleep in some tall grass while checking in on my horses. Luckily, I am much better now and not as exhausted nearly as often.
Reminds me of a 411 case where father and son got lost while hunting and the son became very weak for no reason then disappeared while his father was moving towards what he thought were headlights
they should do a video about that
Yeah, very creepy.
I watched that piece. scary, murderously so. Lights, orbs' are NO good. Don't follow them; Min Min lights in the Boulia region, of Western Qld, Australia; is famed for these glowing orbs. People follow them and become lost easily, almost walk off creek banks and other potential misadventure. Crop circle formation and other high weirdness! So, so much out there. We are clearly not the dominant species on this planet! My one cent. Interesting story, very scary!
I used to go to the Tatra mountains as a kid with my family and school. And back then, there were no mysteries as everything could be explained by tourists being ill-equipped or wearing flip-flops on a mountain hike 🤦♀️🤷♀️
słynne klapki:)
Hahaha
and they are doing the same irresponsible things until to this very day
I saw the same in Tatra, sandals, flip flop.
I would NEVER go there in flip flips or sandals... I go there barefoot 💪
and the sight of torn up, smelly feet, chased off all evil up there.
TATRAs cleansed!
I just want to say how much I love the closing music. Such a creepy tag to the tale. It's the unsung hero as it gives the story's mood and close a moment to sink in rather than just have the next TH-cam recommendation load in with some moment killing advert. Brilliant channel.
It kind of reminds me of the first Alien movie, the song does at least
Alcohol is a vasodilator. So, given they were likely dealing with hypothermia, the body restricts blood flow to the extremities to keep the core warmer. The alcohol reverses this process. She did not ingest the alcohol and it likely saved her life.
I remember reading with some disbelief the account in the book 'A Night to Remember'(by Walter Lord), in which the Titanic's baker, Johin(?), thoroughly "insulated" himself with spirits before calmly dropping into the freezing seawater. Apparently, he survived tho' my naval training taught me just how short a time one can last in water of that temperature combined with the deleterious effect of spirits!
This seems to me to be most likely. Missing a lot of details but the family was most likely ill-prepared, and not too fit. It has hypothermia written all over it.
@@johnjephcote7636 yeah, vasodilation can do weird shit. Your fingers feel warmer... because they are, but your core body temp is dropping.
Your mom is a vasodilator...
This is most likely reason. The alcohol is the main variable between the male deaths and mother living. No mention of BMI and if the Mother were heavier with more insulating fat which is a characteristic of females compared to men, it may have reduced the hypothermia severity in her.
I'm late to the party, having just discovered your channel a couple of days ago, but I'm sure enjoying bingeing! Well researched and written stories with beautifully rendered illustrations, and intelligent, professional narration. SO rare these days, and so welcome.
Kasznica is actually pronouned 'cash-knee-tza', but other than that - another great episode
Wow, I live in Poland and never heard of this story (I jokingly expected that you were about to talk of the "mystery" of why people go up those mountains in shorts during winter; which happens amazingly often...), thanks for making this video about it^^
I just can't say enough about the fantastic job you guys do on every episode. You really have a way of immersing the viewer/listeners into every story. Fantastic job!!! Hope you all have a wonderful holiday and an awesome new year! 🍺☃️❄🎅⛄🌲🤶🍺
I’m from Poland and have hiked alone in Tatra mountains many times. Never heard of these stories before. This area is absolutely stunning and very much lush fairy tale vibes. Although I’m sure I won’t hike alone again after hearing these stories. Thank you for doing such amazing research and sharing this with us.
I have gone thru BS library trying to find one I havent watched. Now I begin reruns. This content is part of my nightly falling-asleep routine.
I do the same thing, nothing creepy about going to sleep with this kind of stuff.
I'm a regular Joe that would never do anything creepy to another human being.
Interesting story. The injuries to the more experienced climber are the real thing that make it hard to just say hypothermia.
Wait, if her husband died in her arms, how did he end up face up on top of the boulder??
I think the boulder was probably smaller in height than our artist drew, like a thick boulder field on the shore of a lake. There is sometimes some miscommunication between artwork and writing 😂
Oh, ok. Thank you.
But she said the other two were sitting next to each other but were found at separate boulders. Its a but suss that _all_ the body positions were wrong
@@bloodyneptune According to Waleria's story she remained with the dead bodies for almost two days after the deaths. Little creepy when you think about it... but in theory she had lots of time to move the bodies to any position she wanted. Question is why would she do that?
Very weird mystery indeed.
@@Clemppu Not creepy at all. Dead people aren't creepy, they're just dead. Then the question why would she do that? It's her fucking child. Of course she wouldn't leave her baby until she absolutely had to. Secondly, the first thing you're taught in wilderness survival is STAY IN PLACE!! WAIT FOR RESCUE!! She didn't do anything wrong.
This reminds me of that case in Russia where a group died after bleeding out suddenly, and only one member of the group survived.
I immediately thought of that incident too. And the survivor was a female.
Can you give more info about it?
@@tsuss2205 Its called the Korovina Incident or Kahmar Daban. Lots of videos YT
Khamar Daban
Easily my favourite channel...hands down ! Amazing and enjoyable content for years now. Top shelf.
If you are discussing Poland you've got to cover the UFO crash in Gdynia or the Emilcin abduction. Would be great if you did
Ooh, yes! Would love to hear this.
Yes please!
Wow! Those sound interesting as hell!
Poland has its own Roswell ? Never heard of it. Sounds very interesting.
@@paulbegley1464 Its quite interesting. A lot of countries have such stories. But America has very strong pop culture so naturally their stories are far more popular.
With all the stories of mysterious deaths in damn near every environment on this planet, one wonders if its safe for anyone to go anywhere anymore. Still, very good story here. Thanks for bringing these to light.
@@eyecomeinpeace2707 Well.. there's a Million Ways to Die.... at home and in the woods... the real trick is dealing with known dangers. it's the UNknown dangers that'll get you.
City's are still the most dangerous places on earth.
@@noelienoelie8425 ah yes, the hunting grounds of the most dangerous predator known to exist...
@@eyecomeinpeace2707 most people die in their homes.
In any case, there is no "safe place" to protect one from death in this reality.
In my personal opinion it is best to not worry about the possibility of death, it will come for all of us at some point and the only comforting thing about it is: when it happens, one does not have to worry about it anymore.
Love this one, native to southern Poland but never heard of it.
Just a polite hiking reminder: Tatras might be not Alps indeed but those are 6000ft plus mountains none the less.
Emilcin Abduction from 1978 case would make great obscure fringe case episode :)
I kept waiting for the narration to notice that the bodies were found in positions and conditions that didn't really match up with Waleria's account. Granted she still has no motive, ultimately, but that discrepancy would seem suspicious.
@@osakarose5612 Yeah this definitely has missing info. But, given the circumstances... It's workable that Waleria was simply inexact in what she said, and not necessarily incorrect. Perhaps she tried to help her husband become more comfortable? Thus while he was dying she helped him stagger to a rock that he laid out on when he finally died?
What I'm really wondering though.... a possibility that, as someone with first aid training, I think of that she probably lacked the training to even consider... were they dead when she left them laying in the snow? Is it possible they might have recovered if she'd wrapped them in blankets? I dunno. :/
@@osakarose5612 she probably moved them after their deaths as she was mourning them….
@@osakarose5612 Classic Polish investigation🤤
She does if she ain't human. An aspect we would never ever consider. They were human she wasn't.
They live...
(Gangstalking 101)
@@timothyhyena3106 interesting hypothesis. supporting evidence? :D
bless this channel for the content it uploads.
It looks awfully similar to that case in Russia, if I remember well, 3 out of 4 people died almost at the same time and in similar conditions. To this day no one knows exactly what happened, I used to think it was similar to the Diatlov Pass incident but now it looks like an exact copy of this polish tragedy.
I was thinking about that too. All three are very strange.
@@Nyctophora Some speculate that it was an experiment conducted by the Russian army and I think the same.
What is the name of this incident?
@@DanksterPaws It was the Korovina Group, who died in near-identical circumstances in a place called Khamar Daban
A New Episode from this unique channel is *always* a Blessing! This Channel Bob Gymlan Beyond Creepy and Top Mysteries are the gem!
Bob is a Globalist! And it's Bigfoot behind the New World Order!
@@randyross5630 Lmao!
Gotta like Mrballen too. He's a great story teller
@@thedoruk6324 Bob touched me! Me Too! Me Too! Shut this Channel Down and always believe the Victim! No matter how ludicrous!!!
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Oh JOY! A new Bedtime Stories! I don't even care what it's about. I'm sure it's fascinating! 💜
They take things that may be just interesting and make them fascinations - don’t they?
Alright, just relax Nancy. Why don't you take your attitude down a peg or two hmm?
My thoughts also went to poison. One that can cause pulmonary edema, and isn’t easily traceable, is ricin. It can be faster acting if inhaled. There may have been some on their clothing, and also in the brandy. I’m not sure how to explain why the wife wasn’t affected, though.
Cuz she killed them maybe
I'm sure it's mountains disease. This story has a carbon copy in the form of Hamar-Daban tragedy. It's eerily similair. Not very high mountains, shit weather, young and healthy men and women dying one by one in a span of minutes, the strongest and healthiest is the first to fall and die, only one woman is not affected and ends up being saved after a few days.
Snorting tobacco perhaps?
This definitely lends credence to the idea that she killed them with poisoned cognac. If I'm not mistaken, this occured around the same time as the Hinterkaifek murders, and the police forensics on that were pretty appalling. I wouldn't be surprised if the Polish authorities just across the border and a mere 3 years later couldn't find traces of ricin that were present in the victim's bloodstream.
The question is whether she knew or not. It could have been some kind of elaborate poisoning by a rival, but considering that it was her own flask, that she was the only one that didn't drink from it, and also shielded her rescuer from drinking from his canteen (it was his own, but in her confusion she may have mistaken it for her own cognac flask), it seems pretty likely that she knew what she was doing. Might have simply faked being depressed for a few years before she remarried.
You don’t have to poison alcohol in such icy conditions. Clearly people don’t understand you cannot drink alcohol in below freezing weather. It will absolutely kill you
Got called into work unexpectedly today but it was made ip for by a new BTS upload. Intriguing story I've never heard before and in a location that's unfamiliar to me. I couldn't help but draw immediate parallels to an incident in California just 3 or 4 months ago. A married couple, their infant daughter and their dog all were found dead on a hiking trail all close to each other. Much mystery as to the cause but the coroner concluded hyperthermia. Reasonable for temps. were about 105°F/40°C but their body masses varied significantly. Not the same conditions as the Tatra hikers but just as mysterious.
*whispers* a witch...
Was gonna make the same comment. Two completely different scenarios, but this video made me think of that recent incident as well.
These crime mysteries or "in the surrounding of", are by far my favorites.
I was going to save this story for bedtime, but it’s only 4 pm. Thanks again for the excellent tale!
I had never heard of this story before watching the video. Thank you so much as always for posting such amazingly insightful content.
Had a horrible day😔..i needed this. Thanks for the upload
Sorry CuZn I hope things get better for you soon
@@mongojrttv thanks alot... Really appreciate
What a fascinating story. You guys did a great job with it as usual. But there is a part of this story that I am honestly rather surprised wasn’t explored at all, despite to me seeming like it is very deserving of some deeper exploration. I am referring to Wasserberger..
His role in the story was kind of glossed over despite being rather confusing about why he chose to do what he did. Why did he choose to leave his three companions in order to join the party of the husband and wife and child? What was it that made him feel compelled to do that despite not knowing them at all apparently? What is his background? Did he have any connections to any of the three members of that family? I’m not saying he did it. But I’m just stunned that it wasn’t mentioned or explored at all. Especially considering the fact that he wasn’t even with them. But then decided to leave the group he went with initially in order to “help“ people he’s never met before. Bizarre.
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This reminds me of a case in California earlier. A couple, their child, and dog disappeared on a hiking trip. The woman was farther along the trail then the man and child. The dog was near the man. They had partly fill water bottles.
Officials determined they died of heat stroke/dehydration. They only brought half the recommended amount of water for 1 adult, and this was 2 adults, a baby and a dog. Officials theorize the dad (who had the baby on a sling) sat down with the baby to try and cool off, and the mother continued on to try and get to the car and get help, but eventually succumbed to the heat as well.
Yes. Very similar indeed. The official explanation of hyperthermia is very difficult to accept. The family was seen earlier in the day of their day hike and seemed in great spirits and not asking for any assistance. If you consider that their dog also succumbed to some unknown force, we still have a true mystery on our hands. Even if the family got caught without enough water, the dog could have easily found water to drink and make it.
@@macioluko9484 Well... not sure which case you mean, but... if they really did run out of water, they probably didn't have their outlook change until it was too late. It's pretty easy to not notice when you're busy and trying to accomplish a task. You feel fine... for several hours after the point where you should have rehydrated. then when you realize you don't have enough water you try and make it last... by waiting... until it's too late. As for the dog... it didn't know where it was going. It may have just sat down and waited for the Humans to show it where to go.
@@lexibat7829 when they began the hike the temp was low 70s. By the time they turned around to turn back, the temp was rising and if I recall correctly, got up to 109 degree heat in full sun. The father sat down with the baby and the dog and the wife, who was found further away, tried to make it to the car, but didn't. Their dog was a long-haired breed as well and was probably suffering pretty badly long before they died. It's not like they dropped dead. It just got to a point where they physically could not continue, and then died shortly thereafter. It's not some great mystery. It's unusual, sure, but they made numerous missteps and they died as a result. Their prior hikes on the same trail is probably why they thought it would be easy and didn't bring enough water.
@@lexibat7829 It's a lot less spooky if you take out that "within moments" bit. no freaking way a coroner would say that. Minutes maybe.... but not "moments"... Also the actual time of death in hyperthermia cases is not the same as when the person stops moving. It's very much one of those "sit down to rest, fall asleep, wake up dead" things. it might be hours between those three steps. That's not the same as dying simultaneously.
Hmm welll looking it up... I'd not call them "experienced" hikers. novices who'd gone hiking without dying before, yes, but.... they seem to be the kind of hiker more enthusiastic than skilled.
Hmmm quickie timeline: they went hiking the 15th, got reported missing the 16th, and no one started looking until the 17th. Finding them was quick as all the searchers had to do was walk the trail.
Hmmm reading a more in-depth description... it (the Hites Cove trail) is a big loop trail and they died in the coming back part. They were about 3/4 of the way done, but... were hiking uphill at the time they stopped. Around half the way in fact. Too far up hill to just go back down to the bottom to get water. While they hadn't drunk ALL of their water, they'd drunk most of it.
looking at that... and knowing how hot it was that day.. very believable they over-estimated their hiking ability.
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Thank you! I have spent many summers hiking the Tatars. These places are very familiar to me.
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It sounds like the deaths may have been caused by high-altitude pulmonary edema (HAPE). Possibly, ascending to a high altitude, being exposed to severe weather, then descending again quickly while exerting themselves caused the rapid onset. Heart defects are also known to make individuals more susceptible to HAPE.
I was going to say the experienced climber would know better, but then I remembered how many "expert" climbers die like this on everest. it's definitely possible
I do not think that they were at high enough altitudes for that to happen, and since the family was traveling slowly, they were not ascending and descending fast enough for that to have happened anyway...
Is HAPE similar to the Bends in that regard?
Apparently, being male is also a factor in developing HAPE.
@@crazysilly2914 High winds reduce ability of humans to absorb O2 and therefore increase the potential effects similar to HAPE
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Such a great title , bedtime stories, because that's exactly what we do. Have some fun and then get into the bedtime stories. Seriously though we have grown to love your platform. Honestly for us there's nothing quite like a paranormal story about haunted or missing ships.
Great job as usually, Bedtime Stories.
BTW General Mariusz Zaruski was a great, extraordinary person. Sadly, he perished at the onset of WW2.
This tragic event has similarities with the Khamar Daban incident or what some people refer to as Dyatlov Pass Chapter two. Keep in mind that in both incidents, there was a rain event before the hikers fell ill. One theory is that the ground was contaminated with remains of biological weapons used by the soviet regime. The rain must have caused the particles in the ground to get into the air and the hikers eventually inhale them. There was also a female survivor in both cases. In this case, it is possible that the alcohol consumed by the hikers caused their condition to worsen and eventually killed them. But if you haven't heard of the Khamar Daban incident, it is also tragically interesting story. Keep up the good work with these stories!!!!
Thought the same thing, although in that case women also died.
I saw the similarities, too. The survivor also comes under suspicion for being involved in the deaths, even if they had no personal part to play in them.
I actually was thinking something similar but with water consumption. My theory is the three males must have refilled their canteens with water contaminated by heavy metals or else algae bloom. I have no clue if there was ever any mining going on in the Tatra mountains so I have no possible way of confirming or denying this theory plus I don’t understand Polish which means even if I was able to get a hold of autopsy records I wouldn’t be able to decipher them.
Bad water consumption doesn't really explain the bodies being in totally different positions than her account.
Interesting story as always due to the writing of Simon Andrews. A nod to the fantastic drawing by Mikey Turcanu which drew me in from the start. And of course Richard While the voice of the story. Well done, all of you in the production of "Bedtime Stories".
I will say that while the other 2 men drank of the hip flask; the boy ate of a candy bar. So, that shoots that theory down right there.✌
Will watch this mostly later tonight for me so it’s like a treat for later
I was just on a binge watching spree on your channel and what do you know....you just dropped a new video!
Guess its time to continue my spree for atleast one more video
You should do a video on the missing crew of the Terror and Erebus! That would be so cool.
I second this. Those ships, lost in the Arctic, make up my favorite ghost ship story ever.
What an obscure and enthralling tale. I cannot think of many other Podcasters that would even know to cover this. Thank you.
This is eerily similar to what happened to a group of hikers and their instructor. (Not the Dyatlov incident).
The korovina incident?
Possibly. Incident with the female instructor and 4-5 young adults. One survivor.
First, those illustrations are really beautiful - bravo Mikey. I love the effects which you get with simple black and white. A very strange story, new to me, here in England. At a personal guess, hypothermia and exposure or something similar may have been involved - the deteriorating weather left them badly chilled and exhausted, bringing on the latent heart problems in father and son. Had they rurned back sooner, might they have survived? What really puzzles me though is the apparent fact that the bodies had been moved - who or what by, when and how? Or is that simply a sad fact of Waleria's memory being at fault?
12:46 - This is an incredible tale. But my immediate instinct is, she meant to poison her husband and accidentally, the other 2 have consumed whatever it was also.
But, like trying to guess what's going on in a movie, I have no reason to believe I'm right
We are all just speculating.
Chilling, I've been going to the tatra mountains since I was a little kid. I've probably walked in the places these people have died. Even had some terrifying experiences in there. Like sudden flares of thick fog overcoming us, accompanied by unnatural silence. No birds, no wind, nothing.
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Straight in. No messing. Great stuff!!!
I actually mentioned this mysterious case of the Kasznica family in my master's thesis about TOPR, the Tatra mountain rescue service founded by general Zaruski. Amazing guy, apart from being a top notch mountaineer of his era (numerous first ascents on many difficult rugged peaks in Tatras) he was equally as accomplished a seafarer, and a great patriot. I also believe I might have experienced something weird in the very area of the incident (Jaworowa valley, under Lodowy peak) - during one of my excursions I felt a sort of a compassion for my exhausted body, but as if from another person's perspective, as though I felt it for some other person, in other words. Does it count as a peculiar type of an out of body experience? :)
P.S. I tip my hat to you for making a video on my beloved Mountains 🙂
I wondered if the Frog Pond might have belched something up, like methane. High concentrations of it can cause pulmonary edema. Could Waleria have been positioned so that she didn't get as much exposure to swamp gas? Just a thought.
at that altitude and low temperature? not likely.
They stopped at the pond because they were too weak to go on. They had been feeling sick for a while before they reached the pond.
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I love hiking through Tatra mountains yet I never heard this story. Thanks for bringing this story up :)
As soon as he says "but first" I'm ready with the fwd taps!
I'm about three-quarters of the way through but can't stop thinking about a certain Theory I've had about these types of cases. A lot of these cases mentioned a certain amount of howling wind or wind picking up at some point receiving some kind of extremely strange illnesses and deaths among a select group. Is there anything in nature that might cause some type of aggressive ultrasound illness or death? Maybe this type of ultrasonic attack that is naturally occurring only affects people who are genetically predisposed due to some type of inner ear and cranial characteristics?
There is other cases like this?!?!
@@crazysilly2914 yep. Some people in outdoor groups seem to have a mental/ physical breakdown that effests the majority for unknown reasons.
WHAT! :-) Seeing the notification, I nearly feel from my chair and counted the amount of coffee I have drunk today. Tatra Mountains is something really really familiar to me. I am just now writing my thesis (is is morning in Europe), which includes an observatory in... well, Tatras! Tatra is also the name on traditional automotive factory is near my birthplace.
Well, actually I know about another mountains in Slovakia, where people notoriously disappeared... Tatras are in here known rather as an attractive tourist spot, where you cannot camp at all (Slovak laws) and you can easily get lost of injured.
At least, this is about Polish tourists, not Czech ones who
I was near where they died just this summer. On the Czech side it's a really eerie area, even during peak tourism season. I think the most likely explanation is, quote (sry for using google translate) "It could happen that when they were blinded and deafened by the hurricane wind, they turned their backs to the wind so that it would blow at their backs and the backs of their heads, and this pressure could cause a vacuum to be created in front of the face - explains Maciej Bielawski."
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Good one guys!
Curious circumstance, natural difficulties, and tragedy for an unknown reason. . . good mystery.
The story says he dropped to his knees by the frog pond and died and the other two guys died close by. Wasn't there a story about people and hundreds of sheep that died from co2 gas released from a nearby lake? They died within minutes. They have since found a way to place pipes into the lake and release the gas. Maybe the frog pond released co2 and the woman was just not close enough to be affected.
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Well, idk if it helps, but the Ice Pass is definitely not an easy place to traverse, both exhausting and quite difficult, compared to the most of Tatra Mountains. Another thing worth noting is the Mountains rising way above their neighbourhood, despite being around 30% lower than Alps etc. as both Slovakia and Poland are realy flat countries.
Slovakia is anything but a flat country man. I should know, I live here.
I digress, and clearly state it's an Active Volcano taller than the Rockies...
General Mariusz (not Marian) Zaruski was really a prominent figure of interwar Poland. He initiated both mountain tourism as well as sports yachting in that country.
He was killed by the Soviets after their invasion of Poland 1939.
Today, there is a Polish tall ship named after him.
An interesting story, sadly, I doubt we will ever know what really happened, certainly the technics used in the autopsies of the time would be rather poor at best compared to modern forensic studies available today.
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Finally something close to home
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Honestly, I really think that what happened is the harsh weather truly did weaken them, the father was not an experienced hiker, the little boy obviously wasn't and the more experienced hiker then carried the little boy to the frog pond from the original location the boy wasn't able to walk from. He would have been exhausted from traversing the weather for hours and then having to carry when more weight, maybe by the time they got to the frog pond their bodies survival instinct ran out and they could safely die I suppose. The wife said she heard a thump and the hiker had fallen, its very possible he landed on his own arm and broke it while also hitting his head. It's not unreasonable for someone who is completely exhausted to fall as dead weight and hurt themselves after trying to walk. Many animals will wait until they're in a safe place to die, its likely the same for humans. Why Waleria survived? Who knows, she didn't have the heart defect and wasn't carrying a ton of extra weight so maybe she got lucky enough to handle the trip up the mountain and make it out alive (barely)
That and perhaps consumption of tainted water. If they refilled their canteens from a stream it could be possible the stream was, hypothetically, tainted by runoff from mining. If Waleria consumed a bit of tainted water she was probably lucky enough to survive. Of course this all depends on if there was any mining going on in the area when this case occurred.
And then he reanimated and crawled up onto a boulder?
A truly challenging mystery. One worthy to be featured in an episode of C.S.I. Crime Scene Investigation or Criminal Minds.
Or a stand alone motion picture.
My first thought had to be altitude sickness or thin air. These would fall under ASM. The woman might have a physical condition that aided her in her survival since it is known that women have a high pain tolerance/threshold.
She gave her son some chocolate. That can’t be tainted.
Another theory is that they had breakfast before starting out. Could that meal have been poisoned? Not likely.
Three male victims. One female survivor. One unsolved mystery.
Great narration and artwork as always.
Have a happy, healthy, safe, sane, prosperous and blessed holiday season. Looking forward to watching more Bedtime Stories episodes next year.
This reminds me of a similar incident that I think happened in the US in the 19th century, if I'm not mistaken. A sililar sized group of people suddenly fell seriously ill whilst campin g in the wilderness.
Nobody could work out what had happened to them until somebody decided to test the remaining liquid in one of the group's drinking flask. Basically the pathologist suspected some sort of poison was to blame but who would have poisoned the entire group and themselves with a fatal dose of poison?
Everyone was baffled until the poison was identified. It was snake venom.
But how could one snake, or a lot of snakes, suddenly bite all these campers and that is forgetting that
not a single bite could be found on a single victim.
the answer was finally found many months later after a whisky storage shed of some sort (maybe bootleggers, I cant remember to be honest) was found with many barrels stored there. The barrels were smashed open and to ebverybody's utter astonishment several dead snakes (cant remember actual type of snake but I'm pretty sure it was not a rattlesnake, could be wrong) were found at the bottom.
Whatever type of snake it was it was hibernation that caused them to find somewhere dry and warm and the shed was ideal, then what better place than a nice barrel?
Is there a gas, like Radon that can occasionally issue from ancient granites, that might have affected the men more?
Oooh interesting. I personally was going with a heavy metal tainted water theory.
Don't talk shit buddy, the protein-based toxins of snake venom need to get into your bloodstream to cause substantial damage. If you swallowed it, your stomach acids and digestive enzymes would break it down. It would be as if you never took a sip.
Snake venom is a pure protein...like egg-yolks. Eating egg-yolks is fine; but, injecting it into your blood-stream would be fatal. You could eat snake venom, and nothing would happen to you. If you had a cut in your gums/mouth, it COULD get into your blood-stream; however, it being diluted in that much alcohol wouldn't be enough to kill anyone in that way. Also, the alcohol will "denature" the venom; making it almost completely harmless. In fact, there are certain alcohols which have the heads of some VERY venomous snakes inside the bottles; the venom in the alcohol is a selling point of those alcohols. Do a search for "snake wine" in Google and see for yourself.
I'm betting they were killed by some heavy-metals; or, some sort of poison they ate; but, since it was within the 19th Century (the 1800s), the forensics weren't as good as they are today; and, someone missed something, or didn't know what to look for.
@@BrockLee3 Most likely that’s the answer. As to snake wine no thank you!!!! I’ll stick to craft beer, fine wine, craft cocktails and craft apple pie moonshine (one of my weaknesses) for my alcoholic delights.
It would be very nice for you to narrate the story of..
The Grey Man of Ben MacDhui
In the Cairn Gorms
Ive been twice to climb up Ben MacDhui & its a strange feeling i cant say ive ever had before!
Its a very strange strangeness
A creeping uneasy atmosphere which ramps up slowly, taking you off guard...
But the real frightener is when the grey moist mist appears from no where & all you can think of is the plodding footsteps behind you, shuffle shuffle & its ice water down your spine...its what you imagine
I had to sing when i got too nervy
& im tone deaf & sound like im kidding, im so tuneless but it was the only thing i could do to keep
Jolly,
Its more a feeling, a sensation & the impression that someone not of this realm is following you but can be in front of you, by the side of you or behind you all at the same time.
Im not prone to fancy & dont usually get jittery but in places on Ben MacDhui theres a palpable
Fear... yet.. from nature itself
Dont know how long it would take you to tell the tale, but i reckon about 18mins would seal the deal.
Its worth visiting, ive been twice
Different season, different time periods & both visits were wistful, poignant, beautiful & very earthy & a feeling of before time existed.
The Grey Man is a kind of Elemental spirit sometimes manifest or just presence but
Being there stirs up something within a person, getting you stripped to your grass roots & laying your soul & spirit bare.
Back to the essence of yourself & that IN itself can be very scary but you owe it to yourself to feel
Accounted for & deemed your doing it right, your ok!
Cheers & Peace
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i am from slovakia so i must watch this
Can you guys do one on a caving/spelunking story caving is so claustrophobic inducing even from simply watching from behind a screen. It would be awesome!
My first thought when watching this was maybe the three died from poisonous gas like hydrogen sulfide. It doesn’t take much of that to kill. It’s heavier than air so it’s possible that the three who died might’ve done something as simple as bend down while walking through it; the husband was already weak and stopping to clear his glasses and the child was probably shorter. Admittedly there’s a lot we don’t know and even that explanation raises questions but it was my immediate thought.
A famous case (at least in the interwar period). And still unexplained.
Thank you!
Since they were found near a lake, I wonder if there was something noxious in the thick fog arising from it. Some lakes can emit hydrogen sulfide from decaying plant matter. H2S usually just gives off a bad smell, but in high enough concentrations causes *pulmonary edema* . No idea if this applies here, but high altitude lakes do have some strange properties and few have been studied in depth. Perhaps Valeria survived because the brandy exacerbated the effects, or because women breathe in lesser volumes of air and it dissipated before she got a lethal dose.
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No, they were already sick long before they reached the pond.
@@noelienoelie8425 Especially Wasserberger.
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