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  • 3 MUST KNOWS for Roadhog REWORK | Overwatch 2
    Roadhog got a rework! Or maybe just some nerfs...
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  • @h.a4283
    @h.a4283 ปีที่แล้ว +1393

    I think the nerfs made roadhog alot more skillful in his hook ability. Ive even begun to use it as a sort of throw mfs into my team kind of ability rather than trying to solo secure kills

    • @kevinnarcisonarcisosandova3447
      @kevinnarcisonarcisosandova3447 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      When i firts see hog i think it would be like makoa from paladins , cant one shot but he feed his team like a mom bird

    • @marcovangraan1066
      @marcovangraan1066 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Yeah I think that is how you are actually supposed to play him

    • @taylorfilm
      @taylorfilm ปีที่แล้ว +18

      that was what they designed him for im so glad that’s how he’s getting used

    • @eigorson
      @eigorson ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah thats how he really should be used like imo

    • @meowcow21
      @meowcow21 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup. Feels so good when you have teammates that follow up. And his faster fire rate with another extra shot is way deadlier when you're waiting for hook. I love it.

  • @crashgpx
    @crashgpx ปีที่แล้ว +631

    Strategy 2, play with your team. Maybe that’s not just a Hog thing people should try

    • @cannonjackson9302
      @cannonjackson9302 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Literally bro just said “strategy number two, play the tank role correctly”

    • @CowKirbo
      @CowKirbo ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@cannonjackson9302 considering that hog could do it before without his team, at least they balanced him a bit better.

    • @shutupjosh2084
      @shutupjosh2084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this ain’t overwatch 1 anymore friend.

    • @CowKirbo
      @CowKirbo ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@shutupjosh2084 you say that like playing with your team is a bad idea in OW2.

    • @bobbygymson8013
      @bobbygymson8013 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@shutupjosh2084 ow1 is ow2 goofy ass 🤡

  • @garrettlison4992
    @garrettlison4992 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    I think you lost all the Hog mains when you said "play with your team"

  • @lesliejacoby9137
    @lesliejacoby9137 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    2 more tips are the 90 degree hook turn is now easier with the distance change and that if you jump after you hook it will give you time to walk up to your target for more damage.

  • @The_MRC.
    @The_MRC. ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "playing with your team"
    Damn

  • @mayoroflazytown466
    @mayoroflazytown466 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I feel like it makes him more of a tank buster and less of a squishy destroyer

    • @seansampler6808
      @seansampler6808 ปีที่แล้ว

      How so?

    • @marcovangraan1066
      @marcovangraan1066 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's not supposed to be a squishy destroyer, that's what the DPS is supposed to do

    • @tristan-smith102
      @tristan-smith102 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@marcovangraan1066 so half of the dive tanks' roles are nonexistent? 😭

  • @SekaiRA
    @SekaiRA ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Hog isn’t a tank, he’s just a very large and healthy DPS.

    • @Wolfaas
      @Wolfaas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i mean all tanks are some more some less :D

    • @Sketchy_Dood
      @Sketchy_Dood ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wolfaas yes but at least some aboard damage with shields and what not

    • @Zakaarus
      @Zakaarus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hog 🤝 zen
      Third DPS

  • @TheShapingSickness
    @TheShapingSickness ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thing people are missing is that using any other tank is way better, same damage output and better utility.

    • @Das_Ungeheuer
      @Das_Ungeheuer ปีที่แล้ว

      He will soon be reworked to have more utility for his team.

    • @teejay1646
      @teejay1646 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fr Hog is a throw pick. People actually sitting there saying he's fine BC "his brawl is better"
      Better than what? Rein? Zarya? Orisa? JQ? Fuckin Doomfist and Sigma brawl better than hog does

    • @yarn7344
      @yarn7344 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@teejay1646 he needs his hook to be removed, but his damage buffed on his primary fire left click let it to 200 per shot while the right click can be 150 same as now, what do you think?

  • @Hoodlet
    @Hoodlet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Play with your team”
    Yeah, like that’s ever gonna happen

  • @stormdragon4758
    @stormdragon4758 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Bellaboo made a video showing how you can still do the 1 shot combo, just jump before you shoot. It takes a lot more skill though.

    • @phredbookley183
      @phredbookley183 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just jump? Is that it? Frustrating. But good to know

    • @marcovangraan1066
      @marcovangraan1066 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah at least as a moira or cassidy I can roll/teleport before he shits on me without me being able to do anything

    • @Aurora12488
      @Aurora12488 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@phredbookley183 No, people are just confused. Sure, jumping puts the character in the air a bit so they're slower moving backwards, but they still are hooked the same distance away from RH, so if they have any movement/CC abilities they can get away before RH goes into one-shot range.

  • @capncoral
    @capncoral ปีที่แล้ว +180

    “We have nerfed Roadhog so he can no longer one shot”
    And then the players instantly find a new method to do it anyways, Good on ya!

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Loool for real

    • @durangosanchez3688
      @durangosanchez3688 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It’s just a patch so the game is somewhat playable till the rework and tbh I feel like it did help and bit and the game gane doesn’t feel as aids

    • @coolpfpbut9505
      @coolpfpbut9505 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      The developer notes said they wanted to reduce the one shot ability, not make it impossible.

    • @Rerollful
      @Rerollful ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@coolpfpbut9505 they don’t seem to read they just want roadhog to be bad because they have a skill issue to not be out in the open and hide behind covers

    • @Shadowical
      @Shadowical ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@Rerollful its hard not to be out in the open if youre in a 5v5 fighting game.

  • @VJArt_
    @VJArt_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally an example of a proper nerf, makes the unwated behavior more of a skilled thing, but not locking it away forever. And generally making it fairer for everyone

  • @sniclops15
    @sniclops15 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The prefire hook was always a classic strategy for high elo hogs, so seeing it have to be used to perform the combo is nice. I'm interested to see the potential that the hook distance has with environmental kils

  • @ManMilk07
    @ManMilk07 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Number two : work with your team."
    No way man

  • @pencilsandchill
    @pencilsandchill 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Roadhog is still viable"
    Now he is not lol.

  • @Standard____
    @Standard____ ปีที่แล้ว

    ‘Play with your team’
    My dps Moria friends: did you say something?

  • @OtoriDaisuke
    @OtoriDaisuke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Strategy 1: get a zen, step 2: profit

  • @stopmotionstupidity2440
    @stopmotionstupidity2440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roadhogs when they realize they can stay with their team:

  • @DapimpBDSD
    @DapimpBDSD ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Teamwork?? In OVERWATCH??? Nah man, you wild

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My b...

  • @latiremo9133
    @latiremo9133 ปีที่แล้ว

    this nerf has added a revolutionary 1% increase in skill requirement to play hog

  • @ladykryo4592
    @ladykryo4592 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Do keep in mind, this isnt his rework. Its changes they got out pre season 3 to adress (warranted) player frustrations. Hes still due for a more proper rework in season 3 according to Aaron Keller

  • @vaguelyhumanoid7419
    @vaguelyhumanoid7419 ปีที่แล้ว

    Strategy 2: play the team-based shooter like a team-based shooter

  • @arturolealsolano5159
    @arturolealsolano5159 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I LOVE that the hook leaves targets further away from you; environmental kills are now much easier and more fun than ever!!

  • @tsunderefan6072
    @tsunderefan6072 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can actually respect roadhog players now. He takes actual skill to play

  • @uhhno841
    @uhhno841 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "He cant 1 hook" me after 1 fucking tick of dmg watching the oncoming hog hook "my time has come"

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      So fearless until the 1 tick of damage xD

    • @uhhno841
      @uhhno841 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dunmuir i just a mercy indulging our reapers dive too far into the backlines before being ditched wadya want lol

  • @easondarkflames9072
    @easondarkflames9072 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw this thing where you can still one shot with hog when you pull a squishie above your head and then you can one shot. Characters can't move while they're in the air so it's still possible just harder

    • @StephaneLevs
      @StephaneLevs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They can still react/move but it's definitely less mobility compared to being on the ground since you dont get any momentum.
      I'll also had that you can use walls in general to put them a tiny closer but you have to time it right so in general, it's definitely harder to get a 1shot combo like before

  • @jackmason6788
    @jackmason6788 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone: yay Road hog can no longer one shot with his broken kit
    1 extra bullet: 🗿

  • @ElmEtZ_13
    @ElmEtZ_13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard that you can jump to after hook to get a one shot

  • @glitch-3107
    @glitch-3107 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Were people not pre-firing before?!?! I've been a Hog main since day one and I've added that lil xtra spice just in case

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      You didn’t have to, so it wasn’t always better to 🤔

  • @epicgamerboi3965
    @epicgamerboi3965 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re still able to one-shot without the pre-fire, you just have to jump before you shoot.

  • @Shadowassassin908
    @Shadowassassin908 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember in ow1 using the two shot hook method, feels nostalgic to see it back in play

  • @imprincesswolfy2565
    @imprincesswolfy2565 ปีที่แล้ว

    “There’s no I in team”
    -Roadhog

  • @Literally___Me
    @Literally___Me ปีที่แล้ว

    A zen literally just discorded anyone I was about to hook 💀

  • @candifemale5118
    @candifemale5118 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Other tip: You can still one-shot by jumping while moving forwards and hooking. Then aim for the head rather than the neck.

  • @kulls96
    @kulls96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You helped me out and I'm helping you out :)

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Loool preciate it 😏

  • @Sentay0
    @Sentay0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Feels a little insubstantial, I didn't want him non-functional but I am still skeptical of the ease of hook-shoot.

  • @MonkeyD.War_
    @MonkeyD.War_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A dev confirmed that this is not the rework, only a nerf. The rework will be coming next season

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully the full rework is more inspired than the Doomfist and Orisa ones

    • @yarn7344
      @yarn7344 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Dunmuir it will be a soft rework

  • @AverageYTer
    @AverageYTer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meanwhile junkrat can 100-0 me in less than .5 seconds

  • @draxurez8818
    @draxurez8818 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got back from ow from last season and I don't know why i can't kill with my roadhog and this helped. Thanks

  • @zir456
    @zir456 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now those fall hook more deadly💀

  • @carterjesso805
    @carterjesso805 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now comes the mercy hog meta

  • @coleslaw5713
    @coleslaw5713 ปีที่แล้ว

    People don't know they just let out a demon

  • @AlmondGlue
    @AlmondGlue ปีที่แล้ว

    I still can’t believe people weren’t prefiring when they hooked. I was doing that pre nerd

  • @Sacred_Cow
    @Sacred_Cow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Played hog on well today, got 6 environmental kills, 4 were because of the new hook change.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol yeaaah, that part is a big buff

  • @benlarson6031
    @benlarson6031 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it just me or does "you won't get one shot anymore unless you have taken any damage and being out of position means you'll still definitely die from someone else" seem like it's the same exact problem with a different flavor

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      To an extent yes 🤔

  • @Soda_Drunka
    @Soda_Drunka ปีที่แล้ว

    As long as you get a 20-30 damage hit at the start of trying to do the strat you'll be fine, if not then hook them into your team

  • @SacredToast
    @SacredToast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ever since the nerf I haven’t seen a single Roadhog player

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeh, that’s what happens with nerfs tbh. Doesn’t really matter how impactful it is, people’s perception push them from playing him

    • @SacredToast
      @SacredToast ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dunmuir yeah, the sad thing is Roadhog had never truly changed, it was the changes of other characters that made him good

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SacredToast to be fair his one shot is fundamentally misdesigned though, just like doomfist was, and hanzo/widowmaker are

    • @SacredToast
      @SacredToast ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dunmuir yeah I hear you out on that

  • @davidtapia8158
    @davidtapia8158 ปีที่แล้ว

    Roadhog players when they have to rely on their team in a team game

  • @saint6282
    @saint6282 ปีที่แล้ว

    ALSO TRY TO HOOK THEM AND FACE THE WALL TO BRING THEM A BIT CLOSER BC THE WALL FORCES THEM TO CLOSE SOME DISTANCE

  • @nightnoob6619
    @nightnoob6619 ปีที่แล้ว

    to oneshot you need to jump after you pulled your enemy

  • @vers1266
    @vers1266 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty sure the people who are really upset by this nerf is the hog players that fully relied on his one shot to have value.

  • @notgiorno8832
    @notgiorno8832 ปีที่แล้ว

    People really thinking he's unviable after the nerf like he doesn't leave you one shot

  • @PRTJ01
    @PRTJ01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh i think zen is gonna be very good now especially with hog and kiriko that orb with hog is even more important with these patch notes

  • @ryanhelm1813
    @ryanhelm1813 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 1st game messing around with the hog rework I got a hook only final blow on an enemy roadhog lol

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Broken! Nerf ASAP

  • @DNYLNY
    @DNYLNY ปีที่แล้ว

    Hog/Lucio is really nice rn.

  • @mediaslaps2317
    @mediaslaps2317 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel bad for hog mains can't even one shot tracer💀

  • @gabbe1257
    @gabbe1257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, he didn't get totally deleted but he is at least a bit more skillful now

  • @phredbookley183
    @phredbookley183 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bingo. He's still gonna be a pain my asp

  • @bigred7646
    @bigred7646 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be cool if he Everytime he got a hook assist kill his hook timer resets

  • @myralde2028
    @myralde2028 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can actually still one shot every squishy and 250 HP Hero by just jumping after hooking them than headshot and meele. So the one shot is still there you just gotta jump.

  • @MaybeUrGay
    @MaybeUrGay ปีที่แล้ว

    This isn't the rework tho, it's just a balancing to his current kit. Reworks are when the devs change their kits to better suit the characters and benefit every one. Like Bastion, Torb, orisa and many others

  • @Thysillyone1
    @Thysillyone1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Note: this is NOT the rework they are still working on that, this is just some nerfs for now.

  • @moylefam5394
    @moylefam5394 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just jump toward them before hooking and you oneshot anyways

  • @aurel-san8403
    @aurel-san8403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx for the review bro thats some good shit right here❤

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      preciate it homie

  • @thelostradiant3953
    @thelostradiant3953 ปีที่แล้ว

    This isn't the rework, this was a nerf before the devs can release the real rework.

  • @asilva5021
    @asilva5021 ปีที่แล้ว

    They made him a little more in line with tanks
    But Sojurn is still a massive problem they ignored

  • @0_eclipsis_049
    @0_eclipsis_049 ปีที่แล้ว

    Atleast it made the oneshot skillfull

  • @micahisonYT
    @micahisonYT ปีที่แล้ว

    …prefiring it is

  • @crisveom
    @crisveom ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They just fix the One-Shot why are you changing it

  • @mad0813
    @mad0813 ปีที่แล้ว

    Despite what the beginning of the video said this isn't the rework the rework isn't coming until season 3 this is a nerf to act as a stop gap.

  • @joshwebb4244
    @joshwebb4244 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dammit Roadhog's are gonna play smarter now

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Brain expanding 👀

  • @adrianclendennin9368
    @adrianclendennin9368 ปีที่แล้ว

    they nerfed him into to ground now

  • @Alirezarz62
    @Alirezarz62 ปีที่แล้ว

    My main was hog I always loved playing him but recently I've been playing Rammatra and Zarya a bit more and I kinda forgot hog actually exists lol I don't see him often tbh

  • @brendanmilligan7778
    @brendanmilligan7778 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a feeling they would go back to when he had 6 shots again. I always like to compare road hog and reaper to their balance against each other in a 1v1. Right now I’d say reaper will win majority of the time against him in a solo fight with these new changes

  • @googoat
    @googoat ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact it took months for them to nerf him was insane tho

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      See the Brigitte experience from ow1 lol

  • @hereticslayer2757
    @hereticslayer2757 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally I think a nerf to road hog should be an increase to the cool down on hogs self heal

  • @lowmememan
    @lowmememan ปีที่แล้ว

    Aint no way that he said "hes still a powerfiul counter to dva"

  • @MegaWedge
    @MegaWedge ปีที่แล้ว

    People still gonna complain to nerf him

  • @ninjamanfella
    @ninjamanfella ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember when they did this in overwatch 1 lol

  • @RM.-_-.
    @RM.-_-. ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm pretty sure his old was touched they changed his damage or how much projectiles come out of his primary fire and his alt is just a shit ton of primary fire I had a hard time killing a tank with his primary fire normally I can drop an altering arisa as roadhog instantly but it wouldn't kill her

  • @vandlassie8478
    @vandlassie8478 ปีที่แล้ว

    and somehow hog hook is much easier to use than ana dart

  • @soloshottie
    @soloshottie ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope they nerf this again so he cant one shot even with a prefire. namely, lets reduce the stun component so it only stuns on a catch for a brief moment, instead of all the way until they're released, adding some risk since you can be shot by the target you're actively hooking

  • @galelululu
    @galelululu ปีที่แล้ว

    been playing brig and just standing next to hog and bashing whoever gets hooked. Easy finisher, easy damage, easy timing, decent range, doesn’t knock them away.

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Following up on opportunities is definitely a good strat!

  • @ninjaelectivire1118
    @ninjaelectivire1118 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they had gutted him for a least a month as atonement for what the hog meta did to us

  • @bendingwater7780
    @bendingwater7780 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was stated that this is not his rework bit a nerf to keep him in check since his counter orisa was being nerfed

  • @Baconbaconbaconbacon1
    @Baconbaconbaconbacon1 ปีที่แล้ว

    We clearly need a genji nerf

  • @joshuaguzman6211
    @joshuaguzman6211 ปีที่แล้ว

    So in short you have to use your brain to kill rather than look at the hook cooldown timer

  • @gunsandroses9349
    @gunsandroses9349 ปีที่แล้ว

    So he’s basically been reverted to that one phase he had a few years ago… but better

  • @germans_lol7259
    @germans_lol7259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thye made him an actual viable tank

  • @olhydralo5945
    @olhydralo5945 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey hog can still one shot, you just have to add a jump to the combo when moving forward after hook 👍

  • @braeden8506
    @braeden8506 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tips! But what is this “team” thing? Is it a tech or a hidden ability? When was it added?

  • @Raxxer1993Q8
    @Raxxer1993Q8 ปีที่แล้ว

    He can still do the 1shot combo. They didn’t change much it 😂

  • @devinalexander9327
    @devinalexander9327 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hog zen 1 shot hook

  • @Ritsu13
    @Ritsu13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too bad they lied about the hog rework coming out and just nerfed him

    • @Dunmuir
      @Dunmuir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems a full rework is coming later too

  • @brown_Mango_mochi
    @brown_Mango_mochi ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's an idea, remove quick melee

  • @OCEAN-MAN45L
    @OCEAN-MAN45L ปีที่แล้ว

    i hate the roadhog nerf i was a roadhog main now i can’t even kill a single enemy 😢

  • @omegastrike8812
    @omegastrike8812 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought they said this isn't the rework

  • @artatitsworst8725
    @artatitsworst8725 ปีที่แล้ว

    ´Strategy 2 working as a team in the team game

  • @lunarblasting4562
    @lunarblasting4562 ปีที่แล้ว

    They forgot to nerf genji

  • @Capin_KO
    @Capin_KO ปีที่แล้ว

    As a zen player, if I just discord a target, do they still get one shot by the old combo