So The Roadhog Rework Got Buffed Already In Overwatch 2....

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  • @bsgsmusic3451
    @bsgsmusic3451 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    Friendly nades are insane with Roadhog. His healing goes up to 300 HPS, which is literally the same amount as transcendence.

    • @respawnlp8400
      @respawnlp8400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Dont Forget its trance healing + 40% dmg reduction 💀🤡

  • @spectralace314
    @spectralace314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +390

    For those wondering on the numbers for the healing per second. The healing was 150hp/s and is now 200hp/s.

    • @guiltyweeb24
      @guiltyweeb24 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      *200hp/s

    • @Shzl47
      @Shzl47 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@guiltyweeb24 can confirm. 500 / 2.5 = 200

    • @spectralace314
      @spectralace314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@guiltyweeb24 I fixed it. Sorry, tired brain

    • @tau-5794
      @tau-5794 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      And on a 10 second maximum cooldown, that averages to 50 hp/s or basically like having a Mercy pocket you all game.

    • @MistaBean22
      @MistaBean22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That feels illegal

  • @user-ov7ci8tp8v
    @user-ov7ci8tp8v 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Tree being an absolute menace while flats just stands there and diesn’t is the most junkrat and roadhog moment of all time.

  • @Blamowizard
    @Blamowizard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +225

    So Hog's issue continues to be that he either absolutely stomps or gets absolutely annihilated depending 100% on enemy comp and friendly Kiri presence? And he's not actually stronger against the things that counter him so easily, just more oppressive when those counters are not present? Who could've seen this coming?

    • @pushyrummble8625
      @pushyrummble8625 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Tbh, this change really didn't do anything to og hog except give him a shorter cooldown for his healing but at the cost of how much a times. Bit of extra damage also with pig pen

    • @ddd6792
      @ddd6792 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      just make his healing less when hit with nade heck just make nade lower or half heals not outright deny it

    • @mutantraze3681
      @mutantraze3681 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@ddd6792 this right here. Imagine having a job to balance the game and not understanding this after years. JQ is fine since its an ULT but anti and sleeps ease of use combined with hard countering mauga and hog is ridiculous.

    • @BigBoneBusiness
      @BigBoneBusiness 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I've always wished that Ana's anti would reduce healing by 50-75%, OR just absorb a flat amount. Let it last the same amount of time, but if an anti'd target is healed for 200-300 health, make it fall off prematurely. I'm not a balance person, I'm just throwing numbers off the top of my head, but the idea is there.

    • @mrsalty8050
      @mrsalty8050 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@manphamquang809 lil bro you’re so dumb if you think that’s a good idea in any way

  • @auberginemanproductions1608
    @auberginemanproductions1608 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +449

    Seems like the best option against a Hog now is just to constantly keep the pressure on so there's no opportunity for his breather bar to refill
    EDIT: Obviously this is if you aren't running Ana or Zen

    • @avatarofdeath
      @avatarofdeath 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      If you're just shooting the tank then you're doing what the tank wants. Their job is to take damage. You win when the tank doesn't need to be shot.

    • @DanildFlamme
      @DanildFlamme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Or a single Anti-nade works quite well too.

    • @jrod9918
      @jrod9918 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@avatarofdeathdepends on who you play and what elo. As a reaper main I win a lot of my games by constantly pressuring the tank until they used all their defenses then go in for the kill.

    • @Yungie201
      @Yungie201 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@avatarofdeath No he's just gonna be more annoying to fight against now. He was already annoying before. Like he's basically unkillable just like Sigma.

    • @burnttoaster7425
      @burnttoaster7425 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Literally works like every other tank killing tank character, just swarm his ass

  • @ravenclaw9122
    @ravenclaw9122 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    They either make a character basically must pick or non-existent and people get flamed for not playing what's meta instead of what characters they like.

    • @yuhitsme516
      @yuhitsme516 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ya. Tbh I played hog since og overwatch. I played him when he was op and when he was ass. Either way I get flamed tbh lol

    • @benjaminasmus3980
      @benjaminasmus3980 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That will continue to be and always has been a part of live service games. You have to accept that, and buffing characters to push skins when you play live service games.

  • @Lanewreck
    @Lanewreck 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    The dr is the biggest one for sure. Bc tanks without armor or good mit abilities like a shield ect, are just a bigger target.

  • @lordkdg8200
    @lordkdg8200 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    Tree is just having so much fun playing with Flats

    • @nightbonus
      @nightbonus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      does Tree have a channel?

    • @dhabu9017
      @dhabu9017 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Tree has been this amazing bonus to Flats' last couple videos; I'm loving his energy and the bromance the two of them have :P

    • @rebeccajohnson7551
      @rebeccajohnson7551 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      dude

    • @AnOriginalName500
      @AnOriginalName500 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-qj6lq4hd9fif you're gonna troll at least try to be funny. Like goddamn you picked the absolute lowest hanging fruit and expected it to work out

    • @Das_Ungeheuer
      @Das_Ungeheuer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@dhabu9017
      Add how Tree annoys/surprises Somnus every now and then and you have great character arc over there

  • @calibrated692
    @calibrated692 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Excellent, right back to where we were before. A hog where you have to chew through his health bar 3 times to kill him

    • @benjaminasmus3980
      @benjaminasmus3980 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome to live service games, and you realizing time is a flat circle. It's gonna be like this for the rest of your life

  • @Pheminon1
    @Pheminon1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    I'm worried about the power creep in where you HAVE to run Ana & Zen or the Hog is just not dying and then nobody dies until someone ults. Like, is Hog just going to NEVER die if he's against a team WITHOUT an Ana?

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Yep. Because that is balance apparently

    • @sebastianrodriguez8992
      @sebastianrodriguez8992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I mean not really it makes it 10x easier but good teams with enough aggression still just walk him half the time
      You play a tank with barrier and you can deny a lot of hooks already and just hound him with damage until he burns through all his heal and explodes which just makes him the fattest Ult battery in the game
      Imagine a 1200hp Ult battery for your team that's basically what hog is rn

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@sebastianrodriguez8992 so the option is have Ana or everyone on the team dedicates all their attention to one character and pray he doesnt get additional heals? Or his team doesn't take yours out?

    • @pokemonmoment
      @pokemonmoment 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PaulSmith-nb6md what my first thought was lol

    • @beckyg5952
      @beckyg5952 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      easy fix - nerf his survavability and get rid of ana nade that way hes decent when they dont have an ana and decent when they do

  • @TheBlackShinigami
    @TheBlackShinigami 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Kiriko and Baptiste are gonna be good damage support combos for road jog and Mauga as their ultra basically up their damage together to the max! Kitsune Amplification is slept on

    • @Alex_Aramayo
      @Alex_Aramayo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Iv always wanted to see that combo w bastion 💀

    • @PurpleMoon799
      @PurpleMoon799 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Alex_Aramayokiriko ult also crazy with bastion turret mode, he just goes BRRRRRRR

    • @savageweeb3608
      @savageweeb3608 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PurpleMoon799 nano rush bastion 💀

    • @PurpleMoon799
      @PurpleMoon799 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@savageweeb3608 have an echo copy a mercy and make it more evil 😈

    • @savageweeb3608
      @savageweeb3608 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PurpleMoon799 exactly 💀

  • @brandonmorgan4570
    @brandonmorgan4570 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Why don't they just make a role passive for tanks where anti heals just do a 75% heal reduction instead of no heals at all and buff Ana a bit to compensate for the change

    • @tryingtochangemyways5074
      @tryingtochangemyways5074 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because people will cry tanks are to strong

    • @DeputyFish
      @DeputyFish 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ana doesnt need a buff. even with that change.

    • @aceuxroo
      @aceuxroo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that buff could be specifically for mauga and roadhog coz their sustain is thru healing and with very little mitigation to survive anything

    • @user-uv6qu3wb5d
      @user-uv6qu3wb5d 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@aceuxrooevery tanks sustain is supports. Every tank dies immidetly if they can’t heal. Jg, Mauga, Hog are obvious, but so does Rein die, DVa, sigma and etc. of course the latter have other ways to protect themselves, but if they are Naded, they immidetly die if it’s on cool-down

    • @mrsalty8050
      @mrsalty8050 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You want to buff something that is already way too powerful when you read it on paper and also when you play the game? This is why you aren’t a dev or have any say at all with what comes out for this game

  • @jubjubssy
    @jubjubssy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    When will the balancing team EVER learn that you shouldn't do 'small' buffs for 3 aspects of the same hero or ability - they've been making the same mistake for 6 years. First with soldier recently, and also with zarya recently (which they reverted).

  • @TheStylishSpy
    @TheStylishSpy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    As a woman Junkrat player I am a paradox according to Somnus 😂

    • @jonathanh.2038
      @jonathanh.2038 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I knew a female junkrat main on xbox back in the day. It might have been a sustained period of hallucination though, a spatial anomaly perhaps?

    • @otsu3011
      @otsu3011 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      women plays other classes beside support?

    • @elpapisaint
      @elpapisaint 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The only constant with junkrat players is that they smell bad

    • @lavenderlilacs
      @lavenderlilacs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@otsu3011average ow player

    • @otsu3011
      @otsu3011 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lavenderlilacs normal*

  • @magmarxiogaming6717
    @magmarxiogaming6717 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    With how oppressive ana can be for hog he's gonna need as much health as he can get at times so these changes aren't the worst things they could've done but the real issue was more on ana than it was on hog

    • @randomationstudios24x68
      @randomationstudios24x68 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I also think if they actually made the healing slower but gave more damage resistance it would be better because he could still use breather through the full duration of nade and tank the damage

    • @lumines.6622
      @lumines.6622 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      At this point I'm convinced they need to add new passives to tanks so they can't be CCed or Ana naded for as long as other characters like how sleep doesn't affect them as long, else they will never balance tanks properly.

    • @ChrisCarlos64
      @ChrisCarlos64 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Ana was always a hard counter to Hog and that is fine. The problem with this stuff over time was OW made CDs shorter making nade up more. It combined with the high damage output within recent times, especially supports has lead to such a shorter TTK in games.

    • @fireblitz3438
      @fireblitz3438 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It definitely is, however, i see why they did this for hog, certain matchups made him feel extremely squishy, even with using his pre-buffed breather. For instance, hog mirror matchups tend to make it as who explodes first since the breather didn’t provide much to mitigate damage. Now it can do a bit more without being too oppressive (hopefully)

    • @dashieldmasta177
      @dashieldmasta177 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ChrisCarlos64It’s the exact opposite, but okay. Healing has never been better in OW2. Without anti nade in the mix, the game would become an absolute slog of nothing ever dying. If anything we need more anti effects.

  • @e.b.9702
    @e.b.9702 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    His Hog not dying at all.
    Flats: "Tankiness is still not there quite yet."
    ???

    • @TheGamegurusChannel
      @TheGamegurusChannel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Flats doesn't get HP tanks like hog or Mauga

    • @Raide225
      @Raide225 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Flats is kinda trash at HP tanks

    • @TheGamegurusChannel
      @TheGamegurusChannel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Raide225 fr I watched his ass die with his E up and unused on mauga too many times to buy him saying that he was ass. That shit gave you double reaper's life steal!!

  • @John.Sharptooth
    @John.Sharptooth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I could see the pain on flats face everytime the lifeweaver managed to survive

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like it to work sorta like a parry for incoming damage so the damage resistance and he'll start up is almost instant but still with significant recovery.

  • @TikkaQrow
    @TikkaQrow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A Sombra constantly tunneling enemy Ana, forcing her to nade herself, would be good too if missing the Kiri

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it's funny how these hog changes are now mandating that every team plays Ana + Kiri + Sombra, literally the heroes with all the most hated abilities in the game. These devs are talentless

    • @Raide225
      @Raide225 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@Real_MisterSirit is the community's fault not the Dev's they say they want hog buffed and then complain that's he's op when buffed

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Raide225 The community is not responsible for balancing the game, considering the average playerbase is below gold. You should listen to the playerbase about what feels good/bad, but you still need to have the professional insight into how to properly address these issues instead of just doing the lazy braindead thing of buffing Hog to get more people to play him or whatever. It's an amateur approach.
      When the community (of sub gold players) say they want Hog buffed, what they actually mean is "we want Hog to be playable like the other tanks". A professional game dev needs to understand the difference and act accordingly.

  • @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
    @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I might need to clean my glasses, did that say "buffed" already?

    • @desperadox6835
      @desperadox6835 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

    • @ondakojees
      @ondakojees 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He means since the rework, it’s been only around 3 days

  • @jhildebrandt121
    @jhildebrandt121 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Somnus started yelling at the beginning of the video I thought it was some crazy new Brig voice line because she started talking about the "Barrier down, get back" line 😅 I wasn't paying attention to the video at first because I was working on something so I had to quickly pause the video when I realized the voice line seemed to keep going

  • @SM-ok3sz
    @SM-ok3sz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:49 I thought that was a new brig voice line. I was so confused! She sounds just like her haha

  • @ultrahotwings9738
    @ultrahotwings9738 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm showing my age here, but Ana nade makes me think of Pokemon Gen 4 and Garchomp.
    There's a reason that was one of the first pokemon ever to be banned from competitive play. It was so powerful that pretty much everyone ran it, so everyone had to run counters to it as well, but it would just hold a yache berry to mitigate its 4x weakness to ice, so you had to run TWO counters to it. Which left a team screwed if the opponents randomly didn't have one, 'cause you'd have two spots dedicated to countering something that 95% of players had and you happened to run into one of the 5% of players who didn't have it.
    I'd say double the duration of nade but get rid of the anti on it (aka: only keep the healing buff effect for allies). Bonus in that it forces plat Tracers to stop farming damage off the tank and saying "Sombra, why do I have double your damage?" since the Sombra is actually doing her job and hitting their supports and not farming pulse bombs off Reinhardt, only to yeet them into oblivion.

  • @ctrl_polarbear1000
    @ctrl_polarbear1000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ever since you talked about Anna being hogs downfall when last time his healing was over powered, I swap to Anna immediately to anti him and sleep. Just need my team to go in on him when he’s anti 😀

  • @TheBlueCrayon
    @TheBlueCrayon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tree is absolutely nuts on junkrat

  • @Rubbish_
    @Rubbish_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:54 the bro code kicked in

  • @ThreeLetters3
    @ThreeLetters3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:00 the solo ult xD

  • @5ivehead977
    @5ivehead977 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:40 why do I have deja vu

  • @manicdestroyer3651
    @manicdestroyer3651 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That hook on doomshits when to were ulting was sexyAF

  • @Pheminon1
    @Pheminon1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Flat's Hog gameplay is making me have a panic attack. He's definitely a Quick Player now lol

    • @Nazobypass
      @Nazobypass 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yet he still plays all his roles at GM, what is your point buddy

  • @renm4779
    @renm4779 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    9:41 Somnus knows whats up. I played a game where the enemy sombra was the only one doing anything but I hadn’t died to her yet so I typed in chat “hit aim labs som” bro…. The whole enemy team started fighting each other in the public chat and we rolled them. Its about the mental game.

  • @marcusbullock2753
    @marcusbullock2753 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That zarya Vs hog match up is pretty good.

  • @marvingreenscreen9947
    @marvingreenscreen9947 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think if you held the breather for long enogh you should get cleansed from bad effects
    since its his breather and hed have to hold it he''s not completely immune to cc but it would at least make him not useless vs Ana

  • @magimoo9371
    @magimoo9371 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro got the jsr music in the back

  • @CyberBunny-xb8nn
    @CyberBunny-xb8nn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    no one talking about the happy birthday bit lol

  • @ecmonkey13
    @ecmonkey13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    He's insanely hard to kill now. Yeah you can nade him but a Kiri, Bap or LW can save him. Don't forget finally killing him and a Mercy brings him back.

    • @TempestS0
      @TempestS0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Soooooo, just like all the other tanks?

    • @kaelkirkby9191
      @kaelkirkby9191 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the result of all that effort is a five second reprieve at best before he's back in the fight.

    • @forcekin1350
      @forcekin1350 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds like a support issue.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TempestS0 Other tanks don't have the same type of personal sustain nor do they revolve around a single ability to be useful (hook). Hog is literally useless until he lands a hook. He isn't a tank, he's just very fat.

    • @Raide225
      @Raide225 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@forcekin1350hog doesn't die supports fault
      Too much damage supports fault
      Too much cc supports fault
      Overwatch has any problems support's fault
      Makes since 😱

  • @rhade3845
    @rhade3845 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Dammit, now he can face tank dva bomb again, and still end up with nearly full health

  • @sethm6650
    @sethm6650 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    When Flats hooked that Doom before his seismic slam hit I was so excited I peed a little

    • @kaelkirkby9191
      @kaelkirkby9191 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Looks like we got ourselves a little pissboy.

    • @dains6623
      @dains6623 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bruh

  • @allencunningham9002
    @allencunningham9002 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    It's pretty bad when they need to design characters entirely around a character existing because of a single ability... either the ability is to strong or it needs to be added to other kits to spread the ability out more so that character isn't the single answer to everything.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They just shouldn't touch Hog at this point. Revert him to where he was pre-buff. If he's bad in general and mostly played by a niche of enthusiasts, then let that be it instead of destroying the whole game balance just to make him fit like a ball into a square hole. Im so tired of these devs not understanding their own game.

    • @Hooga89
      @Hooga89 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Heroes being hard countered is how Overwatch has been forever though so I don't see the issue. The only problem with Hog is clearly that people refuse to switch supports.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Hooga89 Main issue is format change. In 6v6 even if one tank was hard countered, you had an ally tank to help you out or minimize the counter's impact. Hog was not hard countered in 6v6 because Hog didn't have to be a frontline presence all the time, there was another tank to help do that, so the effects of sleep dart and anti-nade were greatly minimized and coult be more easily played around. In 5v5 you have no other tank, so if you get hard countered you just have to swap -or rely on supports to bail you out, and that's how we get to the "supports control the game and do too much" system that everyone is complaining about now. It's all connected.

    • @Hooga89
      @Hooga89 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Real_MisterSir Good reply, I agree with basically everything you say. Here's to hoping they make OW 6v6 again lmao.

  • @thecasualgamer2811
    @thecasualgamer2811 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive seen two types of hogs recently, instantly falls over, or never falls over. The first had a mercy and lucio and we stomped the team so bad. The seond i was healing on lifeweaver with a kiriko and dude never died once. Literally 33 to 0. It was cool but i felt bad for the other team.

  • @SophSophSoph298
    @SophSophSoph298 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I saw it... a tank killing... I was happy for a second

  • @Poopkipp
    @Poopkipp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They should have made Hog a DPS and dropped his HP to like 350 or 400. That way, he’s no longer responsible for creating and holding space but instead gets to focus on securing elims. In a sense he would be an “off tank” and could get Zarya bubbled or shielded by Rein etc. And 400HP would be easy to take down with a bit of focus fire.

    • @michxc
      @michxc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      look who still cant cope about ow1 🤣

  • @Normalaatsra
    @Normalaatsra 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's a higher presence of hog out there now, but imo it's not that he's become a must pick, it's just more people can finally play hog who's viable to play again. I'm more than comfortable just putting the pressure on as dva.

  • @teodorvaskinn8035
    @teodorvaskinn8035 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Road hog was power full and now broken

  • @AbrahamA44
    @AbrahamA44 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:55 flats doesnt kill junkrat and smirks about it :D

  • @toshizue8627
    @toshizue8627 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anti-nade is still a problem. It's a non-interactive ability within the vaccuum of OW. Once you're hit with it, you contextually can't do anything.

    • @naimjustjokin_
      @naimjustjokin_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hide.

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Take cover, but some tanks don't get the memo and dive while anti'd, begging for a dart. I really need to get out of gold.

    • @BloodRain222
      @BloodRain222 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s almost as if it’s the only ability that can deal with hog now. I hate anti too but with this new hog i feel it’s the only thing that gives you a sliver of a chance to kill him and even then kiri and bap exist to negate nade

  • @insertname7891
    @insertname7891 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the reduction in time for max use is lowkey a nerf on breather, less time that youre resistant to dmg

  • @ricecrew2
    @ricecrew2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wow, it’s like roadhog has become some sort of tank!

  • @comicalrock496
    @comicalrock496 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    was 50% reduction, with DVA defense matrix basically being 100 percent from front, and she has decent movement, I think 50% minimum to make hog a viable tank when he has no armor and slow. Like Orisa doesnt even get headshot on her and she has like 3 ways to mitigate and the spin thing makes her faster, so hog could use a bit more. They even took away his 30 hook damage and made it 5, so even his stun damage is bad. Anna and Zen still melt me pretty bad because of the squishiness

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He can use hook every five seconds though

    • @comicalrock496
      @comicalrock496 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaulSmith-nb6md this is true, but orisa while not dragging an opponent to her has a spear that does fairly high damage, good stun too. Sure it pushes people away, but unlike hog, she doesn't really have the same range limitations for consistent damage

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@comicalrock496 but not every five seconds. And the tracking for the hook is more forgiving than the spear. The hook also allows for trap set up and s full blast of his weapon where her spear does not

    • @TempestS0
      @TempestS0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      50% would be too much now. It'd be better for them to reduce the total use time to 2sec or to reduce the amount of total time for a recharge. Reducing total use to 2sec would increase the HPS

    • @tico5058
      @tico5058 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These new buffs make him pretty unkillable. If you’re still getting deleted, this might be a skill issue, no offense.

  • @mdubleyew7924
    @mdubleyew7924 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hog self heals more in a game than a support does now.

  • @gpu213
    @gpu213 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    everyone gets destroyed by ana and instead of changing ana, once again they just buff the heroes that are her victims, which will make them oppressive against everyone else but still annoying to play into ana, also making ana an even more necessary pick, thus exasperating the problem further.

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly.

    • @borrow4654
      @borrow4654 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They're allergic to nerfing supports properly

  • @Sadnessinabab
    @Sadnessinabab 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    they need to tune down the heal a lil bit

  • @TryHardRune
    @TryHardRune 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    how often do you get the 40% resistance every time you heal? or is there a hidden cooldown on that? or can you just sip a little heal and gain it again and again?

    • @TempestS0
      @TempestS0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It only works while healing

  • @Ash-pt6ih
    @Ash-pt6ih 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They need to remove fall off damage at least the 4 big pellets might feel a bit more effective at range

  • @kingcrow15
    @kingcrow15 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah, it's a little rough to be countered by the most popular hero in the game.
    Feels like most of your game are determined by weather you have an Ana to counter their hog and a kiri to counter their Ana.
    So as a hog, you don't feel like you have much control of the situation unless you swap against unfavorable match ups.

  • @BgJimy
    @BgJimy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I finally rank up with him 😂 I love it

  • @dragonvenom9788
    @dragonvenom9788 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He’s gotten more buff already than dooms gotten in a while

  • @buttbutterson5326
    @buttbutterson5326 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone else see the brigette A pose when getting hooked?

  • @westsydevybe
    @westsydevybe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @ 8:22 ballerina hog rag doll lol

  • @twistyc7439
    @twistyc7439 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a former junkrat enthusiasts most if not all of us take a shower we may play the smelly man doesn't mean we act like the heathen somnus

  • @peterexperience
    @peterexperience 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i almost started yelling at my screen for you to put down your trap.

    • @Raide225
      @Raide225 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts bro had no strategy

  • @mattevans4377
    @mattevans4377 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Let's be honest, it's not that they don't have an Ana, it's that you have an Ana and they don't. The team with the Ana, or the better Ana, always wins.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *The team with the better Kiri wins
      Having to act proactively always takes more skill and timing. TP Suzu is just braindead and gives you the upper hand more consistently than nade (when both heroes are present).

  • @ranarman5866
    @ranarman5866 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    This feels weird man
    Just a few months ago, Flats was flaming hog mains on tik tok
    Now he's playing Hog constantly
    Even before the patch, he became what he swore to destroy

    • @lennywhere
      @lennywhere 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he's flats

    • @incomplet1396
      @incomplet1396 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      the rework cam out 1 day ago chill, hes farming for content

    • @SomeKindaHero117
      @SomeKindaHero117 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@incomplet1396 The real take away from this

    • @damianrehbein3992
      @damianrehbein3992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You 0lay what you need to win the videogame man.
      Its top 500.

    • @troymerz4344
      @troymerz4344 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      First it was month ago where the hog oneshot still was there... and second after month's opinions can change

  • @dapsychokilla
    @dapsychokilla 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my favourite hog main streamer, flats

  • @koquarian
    @koquarian 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like people forget that Junker Queen's ult is an anti heal as well and she gets it often thanks to her damaging abilities frequencies. Ana isn't the only counter to him. New roadhog is very fun and I used to love him before the doomfist update, but these days, I'm just a Zarya kinda dude.

    • @azurabbit12
      @azurabbit12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah yes, the only 2 counters are a 15 second cooldown and *checks notes* an entire fucking ultimate from the role with a single player in the team, yup, perfectly balanced, work done folks

    • @koquarian
      @koquarian 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@azurabbit12 I can tell you're really passionate about this, so I'm just going to say I feel sorry for you. lol

  • @Secret63333
    @Secret63333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Honestly, I play Cass and Reaper and have just been consuming them as ult batteries. Cass headshots can stay out of range of hook and ruin his healthbar, and Reaper..... is Reaper.

    • @bsgsmusic3451
      @bsgsmusic3451 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sombra can also mess with hog by hacking to disrupt heal, really good when he’s already under pressure.

  • @naimjustjokin_
    @naimjustjokin_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Going to be interesting seeing Mauga vs Hog

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah yes. It's going to be the battle of the supports once again. Who has the better Ana, better Kiri, better Bap, better LW. The Hog and Mauga players will literally be puppets for their support cooldowns. Nothing has changed. Devs still don't know how to balance their own game.

    • @Raide225
      @Raide225 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Real_MisterSirtanks don't die
      Supports fault 😮
      Please just give it a rest hog and mauga could be op but the supports have little to do with that

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Raide225 Nah who let you cook? The entire reason a Hog is good/bad in his current state depends on whether sleep+anti-nade is in play, and thus also if Suzu/Lamp is in play. Hog is one-dimensional, his hook is his only core threat as a frontline tank, meaning the downtime between his threat potential he has to basically just survive and exist. And the supports singlehandedly dictate this, unless you play in silver where nobody pays attention to anything or anyone and you can just farm.

  • @naimjustjokin_
    @naimjustjokin_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is there only a 1 second cd on rebreather unless he uses the entirety of the heals ??

  • @Randomplaceinruralamerica
    @Randomplaceinruralamerica 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hog NEEDS a health reduction if they want to keep his healing how it is.
    Large amounts of damage only get him to 400 or 300, then he just heals.
    Even with an Ana nade, if there’s a Kiriko nearby then it gets Suzued away

    • @kharngotrekson1726
      @kharngotrekson1726 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe its a support problem? Not the tank one?

  • @THEpicND
    @THEpicND 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All they had to do was up the dmg resistance and nerf ana nade on tanks and we’re bing chilling but now I fear they went too far

  • @maxnieukoop6765
    @maxnieukoop6765 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Might be a hot take, but I thought it was fine before. I don't like characters being unkillable. Support is one problem that just won't go away, but now it's just back to old hog with a new "soft cc" and a one shot combo

    • @TempestS0
      @TempestS0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And he'll still be the worst hero in the game

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's bullshit. The balance team is losing their minds.

  • @spectralace314
    @spectralace314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I feel like a useful addition to his kit to not make him get full 200% countered by Ana is to let his heal work through antiheal at 30-50%. Still would be a massive hit to his healing, both reducing his HP/s and total healing capacity, but better than how if the enemy picks Ana its borderline a forced swap. Ofc sleeps and other stuns wouldn’t be affected.

    • @MeowyMeowster
      @MeowyMeowster 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Absolutely not.

    • @mikeyX101
      @mikeyX101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They need to be careful with changes like that. They probably don't want to introduce too many edge cases that are harder to maintain and manage. Changes like that also make the game harder to understand. (Roadhog is purple, so anti-healed and can't receive healing from external sources, but can still restore some health on his own)

    • @spectralace314
      @spectralace314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikeyX101 well it would be mentioned in the ability description I would think. I just think that Suzu is too widely needed for too many heroes currently. Having a hero who survives off of self healing alone shouldn’t be able to have that taken away.

    • @davidc.
      @davidc. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly tanks in general should have something like that.

    • @niggachu420
      @niggachu420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Roadhog mains bugging lmaoooo

  • @nomartorres9083
    @nomartorres9083 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would still give him something else on his heals, maybe reduced active cooldowns on his abilities based on damage ticks/total damage received while healing or a “thorns” effect which deflects damage back to the attacker while he is healing. Still feels unplayable against Ana

  • @mynizzle12345
    @mynizzle12345 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    his self heal and survivability seem broken in my ranks. if you dont have ana its really rough

  • @shorelinefishing9213
    @shorelinefishing9213 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think this will be good for hog his counters are still there and the support is still op

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You mean his counter?

    • @shorelinefishing9213
      @shorelinefishing9213 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaulSmith-nb6md “counters”

    • @PaulSmith-nb6md
      @PaulSmith-nb6md 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@shorelinefishing9213 Ana is one person

    • @shorelinefishing9213
      @shorelinefishing9213 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaulSmith-nb6md

    • @shorelinefishing9213
      @shorelinefishing9213 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaulSmith-nb6md theres mire than just ana that counters hog my man.

  • @WanBelltrum
    @WanBelltrum 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Flats isn't even using hog to his fullest potential

  • @sethwalhart7893
    @sethwalhart7893 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is hog back to put support back in its place

  • @velociraptom5254
    @velociraptom5254 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That first game he never died. But all that game felt was frustration because of Lw pulling everyone everytime. And Amos frustration knowing Hog is unkillable dumbly

  • @stroads.
    @stroads. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ??? He's already been kinda nuts

  • @samthibert6527
    @samthibert6527 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hog feels like there is no tank pick to counter him. So you need Ana zen to win

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it's a complete joke. We need more reworks, current roster is a damn mess.

  • @ron-aa2264
    @ron-aa2264 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty sure orisa still feels like well orisa in the mu tho

  • @ToastbackWhale
    @ToastbackWhale 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Wait what the fuck. I thought he was already feeling strong.
    But as a Hog main I'm not complaining lmao

    • @guilhermesantos2953
      @guilhermesantos2953 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      he was not strong, just in lower rank, in GM he was still trash

    • @jamespa7193
      @jamespa7193 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In what world was he strong

    • @borrow4654
      @borrow4654 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jamespa7193lower casual ranks. Hog will just bully those lobbies because people dont counter pick

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@borrow4654 Hog only has 1-2 counters.

    • @guilhermesantos2953
      @guilhermesantos2953 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mycelia_ow ?? Mei, Bastion, Ana, reaper, Orisa,

  • @questionable_live
    @questionable_live 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fix anti-nade

  • @waterman7082
    @waterman7082 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn, hog is even more op now. I recently played an Ilios game on unranked (I doubt bronze is better) and the enemy tank played hog. And we got ANIHALTED, by this ONE hog and the rest of his team which we could not kill, BECAUSE THE HOG WOULD KILL US IMMIDEATLY. Btw he was I think 'bout 25-1 (the 1 death was when he switched to hamond and then died very fast)

  • @sirdragonmoon7092
    @sirdragonmoon7092 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They could reduce hog health so that he is sligly more killable if the players dont manage their resources properly

  • @lrmcatspaw1
    @lrmcatspaw1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hog is a nice support.

  • @Sukarettoroz
    @Sukarettoroz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cyx is eatin good rn hog a menace

  • @heresderrick3261
    @heresderrick3261 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don’t let the the opposing team have a bastion, Ana, and zen against roadhog. You will really have to rely on your team to kill them if those are your opponents (or have a kiriko)

  • @esperhusky4838
    @esperhusky4838 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a mercy-ana main. Laughs in sleeps and antis

  • @Zemilia22
    @Zemilia22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We going to talk about the person who joined the game at 4:58 lol

  • @SSWAZZY
    @SSWAZZY 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a high gold/kinda in plat player who gets mad when no one picks ana against hog i think these changes are good 👍

  • @johnmetzakis2910
    @johnmetzakis2910 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah for me now i auto pick ana if not facing a hog swap to kiri

  • @gp42846
    @gp42846 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nah that Junkrat was OUT to get your Ana

  • @Billy_The_Frog
    @Billy_The_Frog 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was playing hog for the past few days and almost every match i played had an enemy ana, was not a fun time

  • @Dishonored-xx2ov
    @Dishonored-xx2ov 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After playing doom against this kind of roadhog, I m not gonna play Overwatch again, i think

  • @NobleRenegade7
    @NobleRenegade7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rein needs a re-work next

  • @Lucarioux
    @Lucarioux 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    30% to 40% damage reduction means hog can survive dva bomb with 100 hp at full health at point blank. Which before he could not.

  • @Quizzy0000
    @Quizzy0000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    haha lets see hog these hog buffs feel. while somnus is ranting in the back :D

  • @MedasGaming
    @MedasGaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the 1 sec cooldown on heal yikes

  • @DarkWingPenguin
    @DarkWingPenguin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why didn't they just give him a cleanse ability that extends his healing by 1 second instead of all these other changes. His weakness was Ana grenade which made him unviable. So if he healed himself. Got hit with the nade. Use the cleanse ability to allow him to heal himself. Better option then what his kit is now.

    • @BloodRain222
      @BloodRain222 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly yeah. Revert his breather to what it used to be so we can actually counter it while also making it so it cleanses anti now. His new breather is obnoxious