Why LTD is great even when comparing them to ESP.
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- Again, huge shout out to Joe Sansalone from Heavy Metal, Amps and Pedals! Now, with regard to LTD, you guys seriously need to buy a Korean made LTD 1000 series!! They are every bit a copy of the more expensive ESP Customs. The only difference that I personally see is where LTD chooses a 1/16" flame maple veneer, ESP uses 1/4" to 1/2" flame maple cap that are gorgeous! Thanks for watching!!
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I'm a hyper-critical guitar owner, and I've gotta say......the LTD EC-1000 I played on at one point that was about $850 is the absolutely best metal guitar that I've ever played on. Outperformed Ibanez, outperformed Schecter, outperformed Jackson.....it's the best import guitar I've ever played.
Yes bro, I totally agree with you! I don't even play my Ibanez guitars or Jacksons anymore for the same reason! Legit, the EC-1000 you played sells for about $450 today! Best used guitars on the market!
@@louistorres I mean, the attack is perfect, the fretwork is impeccable, and it’s just a fast ass guitar!!
Is there a particular date range for the ec1000 that one should look out for when searching used?
@@Kitten_Party they’ve been made the same way for a long time, but obviously, if they’ve been made in the past ten years, I’m sure you’ll do just fine. They’re incredibly comfortable to play. I’ve also been told that people praise the Korean built ones over the Indonesian models just like Louis says in the video.
Glad you've seen the light! Nothing beats the value of LTDs. I have a handful of ESP standard series, E-II's, and LTD's and they are all just awesome guitars. I have had good luck with newer Indonesian made LTDs too, but the early to mid 2000's era is just magic!
See, now I'll definitely stick to the early 2000s. Everyone says the same thing!
I have an old LTD H301 that I absolutely love, I’ll never get rid of it. It’s a 2001-2002 I believe
Yes, i have said the same thing. Something magical about that time frame. I have 2 , 2007 LTD’s, and they are amazing guitars. Quality is top notch without spending the extra grand or
So.
Hell yeah, the "old logo" Eclipse and Viper models are some of the best guitars I played
Ltd are hands down the best import line of guitars, the Cs stuff is also elite level stuff
why are you banned off reverb bro?
I have an LTD JM-II on the way, can’t wait! I absolutely love the higher end LTD’s. They are just as good as ESP standard and E-II
Thanks for making this video, it's awesome to hear someone with so much esp experience say the ltds are just as good.
Bro, it's shocking! I'll buy my buddy's ESP but that's it! Aside from the new ESP Urban Camo I traded for. I definitely won't buy another ESP from now on, I now have six LTDs now and they're all amazing. :)
After fighting with my deluxe 1000 for years, ended up upgrading most of my gear and besides throwing a set of fishman classics in its still all stock (maybe a new nut got installed) it’s an absolute BEAST… fallen in love with it again after retiring it and got a lp. Can’t put it down now nice to have it back in the mix
That's so great to hear, Tyler! I'm glad it's back up and running again! Yeah, they really are beasts!!!
I've an Ltd M-1000 Deluxe. Bought it brand new in 2007. Love it and still plays like day 1
"I will never... ever... buy an other ESP" that one sentence sums up the whole video.
It even should have been the title of this video :)
Saying that one line is still crazy to me but I honestly won't buy another ESP. There are more options with ESP but if I want the feel, the weight and the quality... then I've found it in the early 2000s LTD M-1000 models. It's crazy!
@@louistorres I'm a long time LTD user. I've played almost everything, ibanez, jackson etc... But my M shaped LTDs have always been my go to guitars. The sound, the feel etc...
So hearing an ESP guy say that... It just makes me have that ear to ear smile 😁
Welcome to the LTD FAMILY !!!
Went to my local Volkswagen dealer and asked to test drive the Louie. Oddly they had no idea what I was talking about. Dig the vids brutha. 🤘
Oh my god! I just laughed out loud! Hahaha! Jason, you are the man!! Hahaha!!!! So funny!!!!!
I've got an EC-1000 Deluxe, and it is hands down the best guitar I have ever owned. Everything I play at guitar stores gets compared to it, and very few have stacked up. Interestingly, I just got my hands on an MH-350FR and it's also badass, for around half the price of my EC-1000. I wasn't planning on keeping it, but I think that's changing.
I have 3 ltd's, korean ec1000 deluxe, indonesian ec256 and Hetfields signature snakebyte all 3 are very good guitars and played often .
Great video Louis informative as always.
I've never played one of their Indonesian builds, so I'm glad you like it! Especially since you have an EC1000 to compare it to.
@@louistorres I found the EC 256 at a pawn shop in brand new condition except the prior owner tried wiring in a new pickup and couldn't get it working again, got frustrated and took it in. I got it for $160 took it home and fixed it. The differences are all hardware, 2 frets and fret board.
The 1000 weighs 8.75 lbs
the 256 weighs 8.40 lbs
24 frets for the 1000
22 frets for the 256
Body thickness is some for both 1.5"
Neck at 1st is 42mm -1000
40mm -256
@ 12th fret. 52mm for both
1000 has a better nut than 256
Esp brand locking tuners -1000
Ltd brand nonlocking -256
Tonepros brg and tail with set screw 1000
Basic chinese brg tail -256
1000 came with EMG
256 came with no name pickups
Both guitars have front body binding and neck/headstock binding
1000- ebony flag fret markers
256 - rose wood and dots
The build quality is excellent on both and the playability is surprisingly similar the 1000 does seem to have more bottom end which puts a smile on my face. The ec1000 is a beautiful guitars no question
The 256 is a fantastic value that follows its more expensive brothers playability pretty darn close.
Hope that gives you an idea Louis
I love my LTD's. LoL.
Cheers
@Isaiah Miller for sure they can and hopefully that gets you back up playing and enjoying that guitar .
Man, I HATE being broke and poor, seeing all of these amazing guitars. I just wanna, ONE DAY, own one of them... :( Life is HARD!
the M1000 dlx has neck thru, stainless jumbo frets, and a floyd, that ticks all the boxes I want one.
I bought several LTDs in the mid of 2000s the are great for the value and all of them are modified with upgraded hardware and the are fantastic
Yeah man, I really disliked LTD for years and only because they weren't ESP. I looked at them as cheap versions until I bought one last year and that was it! I would gladly trade my $1,600 Ibanez Prestige for an LTD Elite any day of the week!
Glad you liked the LTDs. Wouldn't pass on a good priced ESP if you come across one, but nothing wrong with a high-end LTD, they are really good workhorses worthy of being used on albums.
Doesnt even have to be high-end LTDs
I have had a couple of people recording with 300 series LTDs at my place in the past and they were really good
@@cederickforsberg5840 I own a 500 and a 401 series ltds MIK
great guitars but I always have something better in the studio when I record so they never get to go on an album :D
@@cederickforsberg5840 back in 2001 the 300 series was literally the only "LTD" they really have weird naming XD
I just took the plunge on an Indonesian EC1000. I was dreading it arriving after seeing the state of some of the early Indo ones on another TH-cam video. BUT....mine is a 2021 build, and it seems like they've got it all back in order. It's easily on par with my old korean MH1000. I'd say don't worry it it's an Indonesian built guitar, as long as it's built from this year onwards.
Yep. I have a 2019 m1001 Indonesian model and it's great. Super comfortable and very shredable.
Very encouraging. I bit the bullet and bought a 9 lbs Indonesian EC-1000T, vs. 8+ lbs Korean they had in stock. I am still waiting for it to ship. My gut feeling was to go for the heavier one, it looked on pictures as good as the one from Korea.
@@ahsverkoshkin1249 have you got it yet?
@@MrGibspoon So, a curious development occurred. I technically bought it, but they took over a week to start shipping it, in the meantime I discovered that there's a new '22 model - Natural Charcoal Burst - with quilted maple top and direct mounted pups... and I felt that this IS the guitar I really want. It kind of resonated with me much more than the dark cherry... So, I was able to cancel the old order and I pre-order the new model I really liked. They believe it should arrive in March, and, of course, no way to tell where the batch will be made from... The waiting continues. But I don't mind, I think it will be worth it in the end :) Thanks for asking. I can report back in few weeks :D
I’ve played ESP for 14 years now, best brand out there. I just bought a «used» 2022 E-II Horizon Japan import in Amethyst Sparkle. It was like brand new, and I paid less for that than what my friend paid for his new LTD. So check the used marked.
That's so sick!! I hated the E-II for years, then bought two of them and they are INCREDIBLE!! Ate all my words about E-II!! ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEM NOW!!
I actually got my Viper 400 for free. It’s a 2005 Korean model and it is probably the best made guitar I’ve ever played. It has EMG 81/85 and it’s really beat up after having played it live for several years. It never had tuning stability problems, no weird neck problems. It’s straight as an arrow and never goes out of tune! It’s funny because it sat I strung in my friends closet for years before he just handed it to me. I think the older ones were amazing because I bought an EC 1000 in vintage black with Seymour Duncan’s and it had a weird twist in its neck. I got rid of that one.
Anyway, my old brown viper is always gonna be fun to play and it sounds hella good! Good video man! 👍
For free!!! That's awesome!!!!!!
Just stumbled on this video, I have an LTD phoenix 1000 bass made in Korea and its absolutely perfect. there are no gaps or something. Just simply perfect.
Got a Korean made Esp LTD SC-20....best guitar I've ever owned..and about 2k less than an ESP custom series..I like the way It feels and sounds..imo well made lil guitar..and I didnt notice much of a difference and feel to justify the price diffrence.
I bought an ESP LTD AS-1 Alex Skolnick in lemon burst with an amazing flame maple veneer! A thick mahogany body with a nice chunky neck, it's an amazing guitar that plays and sounds great!! It came with a massive heavy duty hard case.
I have an H207 and a Viper 407. I used to play Ibanez exclusively but I fell in love with the looks of Horizons, so I traded my Japanese RG7420 for an H207 and was blown away by the quality. Even though the RG7420 was supposed to be higher quality, it seemed like the H207 was better built. And the LTD neck shapes fit me better than the thin Ibanez wizard necks. Haven't played anything better than LTDs since then. I hope to some day own an EII or an ESP.
Right now, I'm playing 3 Les Paul Standards, a 1988 Jackson USA Custom Soloist, and I got an LTD Kamikaze (repainted). The Kamikaze was a backup for my Soloist. I did a complete setup on it and even though I'm not big on bolt on necks, it's an awesome guitar. I've been thinking about doing a custom order, to my specs, but it's a lot of money. Great collection, brother!!
I own an LTD EX-400 and LTD V-401 and they are both KILLER guitars.
Thanks for clarifying this. There are a few videos of the LTD vs ESP’s but you’ve gone into great detail in regards to it. I am torn between getting a LTD Arrow 1000 and an E-II Arrow.
Bro, I swear to you, as someone who hated LTD guitars for over two decades, the LTD 1000 line are every bit as incredible as any of my ESP Customs. If you put an Arrow 1000 against an Arrow E-II, the main difference will be the price tag and maybe something very subtle, like a different bridge but nothing major. My LTD M1000s are identical to my ESP MII Customs and my ESP MII/ E-II models as well. It's crazy! There's really no point in buying an ESP unless you want the badge and with that, like I mentioned, my LTD KH602 feels WAY better than my ESP KH2.
The Indonesian guitars are honestly pretty good now, they’ve figured it out; getting some decent specs for the money with quality that backs it up.
I know three dudes who just got IndoLTDs and said the same thing. I'm glad they've gotten their quality to match those from the Korean factories they use. :) Thanks for sharing, bro! I'm glad more guys are saying it's better.
Brother, you nailed it! My ESP Deluxe EC-1000 with the active pickup is a fire-breather! I think Queensryche is what got me hooked on that brand...... it's an $800 guitar that EASILY puts +$2000 guitars to the test!!!!! Beautiful blood red.....looks like someone's arteries spilled all over it! LOL LOL
That sounds sick!
Great video. I recently got a LTD Black Metal M-1 (Korea) and an LTD Custom 1987 M-1 (Indonesia) and the quality on both is insanely good, as good if not better than my Jackson COW6 MIJ. The Indonesian M-1 is definitely on par with the Korean, can’t tell them apart.
Man, Sammy from Goatwhore was telling me the same about the 1987 M1 reissues. He said I wouldn't know the difference between my ESP 1987 M1 Custom and the newer LTD model. That makes me want to get one now and do a comparison video!!! Haha! You are the man!!! Thank you for sharing this, you've got me thinking I should look around for one!! :) Thanks brother!!
I love neck through body guitars.
Man, you would love the LTD M-1000 or MH-1000! Figuring they didn't want to step on each other's toes, there's no reason why the LTD M-1000 shouldn't be called an LTD M Custom. It's 98% identical to my ESP Customs. It's crazy!
@@louistorres I’m a hard tail guy, though. Floyd Roses drive me nuts, and I have almost never used them when I actually had them on guitars that I have owned.
@@Chord_The_Seeker I'm the opposite, I won't even look at a guitar without a floyd. I'm addicted to flutters and that Vai-ish bend up and slide down move. Plus they just look cool to me.
All guitars should be neck-throughs or ste-throughs! Ok, maybe not all because we also need Strats and such. But, a lot of them should be.
The newer 1000 series ( either Korean or Indo) are really REALLY good. Got an NW-44 a few years back and it's insanely good. I always recommend them.
I had a black LTD M-1000 that I bought new in '03 or '04. It was before the flame maple top was available. I loved it. It was a bit heavier than my other guitars but, it was so easy to play and sounded great! Only sold it because I needed the money and I've regretted it ever since. Now that I'm not broke, I should buy another one however, all black ones are hard to find.
Check out the M Black Metal series that one is pretty nice.
I have a 2002 M-1000 and it is really great. I thought the black one came only in 02...
Yes it's heavy, maybe mapel body?
@@jontangenes9275 it was probably an ‘02 model bought in ‘03. Could’ve been maple body too. Definitely wasn’t alder! Lol. Paid $899 with esp hard shell case.
@@scottsouter280 Great guitar. You should try to get it back.
I wanted to try an Evertune bridge, the first guitar with one equipped that came up on Reverb was a LTD EC-1000 Deluxe. That guitar is so good that it's ruined me. I now have a TE-1000 Deluxe ET, Viper 1000 Deluxe ET, and a SN-1000 Deluxe ET to go along with my EC-1000 Deluxe ET. My Strats, my Tele, and my Les Paul are hanging on the wall for looking at only. The rack of guitars I write with, play on, and record with are all LTD 1000 Deluxes with Evertune except for a Charvel DK24 (for tremolo stuff). Completely awesome guitars. Great shapes, great comfortably, the best neck in the game, extremely reliable factory setup, and the best QC of any instrument I've bought.
Yes bro!!!! And to think that I hated LTD for virtually 25 years!! Bought one and was shocked! Then bought another and like you, just kept buying them! That's awesome that you have a bunch with the evertune!!!
Love my Korean 2020 LTD M-1 Custom Series 87 reissue. Incredible build quality , tone and sustain
Before watching the video I wanna give you a big Thumbs up for demonstrating those beautiful guitars ,hard cases and gears ,I loved it and loved how you filmed it 🤘🏼
You are the man and thank you for taking the time to leave a comment. Happy Friday!!!
@@louistorres I appreciate you man ,every moment of this video was pure and I really enjoyed every second of it,appreciate you and without exaggeration it was one of the best video I’ve ever watched,I care about every single detail of content,how it starts ,the background,the way you talking and honest review of the guitar ,its a pity how late I know your channel but already subscribed and became a huge fan of you,keep it up man,you’re awesome 🤘🏼Happy Friday,Cheers 🫡
@@alyamini111 You literally just made my day, bro. Thank you so much for being so great!! :')
my made in Korea m1000 was built on 2018, many people say that newer LTDs do not have the same quality as the earlier ones, I haven't get a chance to try an ESP custom yet, so I'm curious if that's true.
I've been told by guys not to buy a newer LTD for the same reason, that the newer one isn't the same as the older models from Korea. That's why I only buy older ones. My LTD 1000s are just like my ESP Customs, only they're setneck. My LTD 600s are EXACTLY like my ESP Customs, even neck thru body.
@@louistorresi can't understand what's the problem with an ec 1000 from 2018 or 2021 if it's made In Korea? Anyway what's the point? It does matter to be made in Korea or to be made in older years 2006, 2010 etc?
Are you looking at the selfie screen? Gotta look into the lens!
Yes! That's the hard part! Lol
Having been a gibson/ibanez player I'm looking at schecter and ESP for something different. Not sure what things were like 2 years ago but here in 2024 I've noticed that most LTD EC-1000 guitars come loaded with stainless steel frets where as the more expensive ESP's do not. LTD are the way to go when looking at the price vs the lifetime of the instrument. I could not justify buying a really expensive guitar that ultimately won't last.
Yeah man, l was shocked when they started using stainless frets. That was a huge hit out of the park!
Louis, my thoughts on the LTD vs ESP debate are very similar to yours except my journey to getting there has happened in reverse. I've owned several LTDs from different ranges over the years but pulled the trigger on an E-II Eclipse II last June. It's my first Japanese made ESP/E-II and I was motivated heavily to buy it by the alleged increase in quality that is said by many to be there from a Korean LTD to a Japanese ESP.
While I like the E-II and can tell that a lot of care and effort went into building it, I honestly don't believe it's better than my 2012 LTD EC-1000. In fact, after putting the two under the microscope heavily recently, I actually think that the LTD plays and sounds better even though I've tried to make sure the two instruments were set up as similarly as possible in terms of action, pickup heights, etc.
My experience was very similar with an E-II Horizon NT-II that I briefly had last Fall that I didn't feel was any better than my 2015 Korean LTD MH-1000.
Japanese ESP and E-II are absolutely great instruments but I believe the Korean LTD 1000 Series instruments to be arguably the best on the market today for $ to performance.
Yes bro! The Koreans literally built their ESP/LTD models to show up the Japanese. I'm with you, bro!
Hey Louis, thanks for your comparison. I wish I'd have seen this video 2 years ago. In 2006 I got my first ESP, now they're 5 ESP and LTD Guitars here with me, all bought new:
- 2013 Ltd EC-1000 FR Deluxe, Korea, Floyd Rose 1000, EMG 81 and 60, abalone binding: absolutely flawless instrument! Not the slightest hint of an issue.
- 2014 Ltd James Hetfield Iron Cross, Korea, EMG Het-Set: sounds huge, feels great, very little paint flaw on the fretboard binding (masking I guess).
- 2015 Ltd H-1007 Deluxe, Korea, EMG 81-7 and 707: very tiny chip on the fretboard binding near the pickup. Otherwise flawless.
- 2012 ESP V-II Std FR, Japan, original Floyd Rose, maple neck throug body, 2 x EMG 81: everything from top to bottom absolutely perfect.
- 2006 ESP Eclipse I CTM, Japan, EMG 81 and 60, maple set neck instead of mahogany: This one kinda stands out a bit from all my other guitars. It somehow has the mojo I guess. It feels lighter, sounds fuller and punchier, still more articulated and bright also. The neck on this feels just a bit better fitting and smoother then on the others. It has a bone nut and sperzel locking tuners. And it's got the older shape with the longer horn like for example Esa Holopainen's Eclipses. And the deeper back relief also.
So I think, the 1000 series LTDs in technical aspects totally hold up to the standard ESP, maybe even the customs. They for sure have a very good quality for the price. But one day, somebody might meet an instrument, that just has it. One that just fits, feels and sounds that little bit better. Might be an ESP, might be an LTD, or an E-II. Who knows...
Greetings from Bavaria, Germany!
You have a great collection of ESPs! Yeah man, I totally agree and as an example, I love my LTD Kirk Hammett much more than my ESP KH2! You are the man and keep collecting, brother and thank you for posting your gear!! Cheers from New York!!!
@@louistorres Thanks for your kind words 😉 Your collection is awesome as well, I'm gonna watch some more for sure when I find the time.
Have a great day!
When I moved from an LTD EC-1000 to an ESP EC-1 Standard it was a HUGE difference to me. Like, night and day difference.
Can you elaborate? What was the things you noticed the most that was different? I am looking at guitars to get a new one so any input I can get I appreciate
@@everythingizextreme666 It's a play thing. Tonally, they all sound identical to the LTD models. I had two ESP Eclipse Standard's and they both played different from each other (one was brand new, and the other was used). But the ESP Eclipse is far ahead the LTD EC-1000 in weight balance, and playability. I eventually sold all of them and now have a Gibson LP (double cut) and a Gibson Explorer. Both required a lot of work to be playable, but now my Explorer is my favorite guitar. However, the ESP Standard I ordered from Guitar Center brand new was perfect from day 1. I would also look into a Gibson Explorer, tbh. They're amazing once you get the proper set-up and pickups in them. In my Explorer I have a SD Black Winter and SD Nazgul.
@@josefkainrad thanks for answering. Yeah thats the thing thats most important to me and I have a hard time believing they feel the same to play but I havent been able to test this my self
I have an LTD V-50. Found it at Pawn America for $120. A little back story. I bought a PRS custom 24, 10 Top in 1999. Even then it was $3,200. I sold it last year because I like the LTD way better. And this is probably the cheapest Flying V model LTD makes. The playability, the tones, the feel, the look. Everything I liked better than the PRS. I just ordered an LTD EC-1000 Deluxe Fluence black from Sweetwater. Can't wait to get it. 😃
Another ltd shout out, I just bought a mirage deluxe and it’s fucking incredible
The mirage is sick! Congrats bro!
My wife: omg, you have way too much gear and guitars!
Me: Shows her your intro. 🤣😂
Hahahahahaha!!!!!! I just laughed out loud! Tell her to relax, then hand her a Snickers! Lol!
Excellent video !!
Thanks brother!! You are the man! Hope you have a great Wednesday!! : )
I recently bought a LTD MH-1007ET and it's a gem. Made in Korea as well and I got it for almost half of it's original price in very good condition
Dude I totally remember Manntis!!! 😂 They were pretty heavy lol
Sleep in your grave! 🤘🏻
Solid album back then
A dozen furieus also had a great album
That show was cool
I'll take a Korean-made guitar by a reputable manufacturer over almost anything else. The Koreans are doing stellar work on guitars. Outside customs, as good as Japan, IMO. Of my 8 electrics, 6 are Korean made, and I couldn't be more pleased.
I was just playing the Ltd H-51 I've had for many years but have largely neglected in favor of my Fenders and Jackson. But wow does this guitar seriously rock and is seriously fun to play!
Bro, I hated LTD for years, since hearing about them in 1996. Last year was the first time I realized how great of a company they are! I'm glad you dusted yours off and played it. Yes man, they really are incredible guitars!
I guess an LTD is my next guitar lol great video mate.
Thank you so much. Yes, trust me that if you stay within the 1000 line, you are basically getting an ESP Custom. Upgrade little things and you'll be all set, while saving thousands! :) Happy Saturday!!
@@louistorresSounds awesome, been looking at the LTD MH-1001 NT never played an LTD before so this will be my first. Happy Saturday man!
I've bought 4 LTDs They're just fine. The signature models have a little to be desired when you crack open the backs and see that the wiring and pots...mmmm could have been better which means you basically can upgrade the guts if you want.
That's typical of any guitar that's sub-$2,000 these days. Everything is cheap until you upgrade it yourself or just buy a more expensive guitar. My PRS Custom 22 was wired by a professional who cared, and it's beautiful. Everything else, including my 90s ESPs look like a kid wired them. Haha!!
I'm Just about to purchase a LTD ESP MH -350 FR Black flame top , it's made in Indonesia 2011 only £300.00 3 Month's warranty EMG 81 - 85 pick ups.
I read that the best guitars they make are their 350 and higher models. You're going to love it!!!
I remember when LTD came out and I've always kind of viewed them as a second rate ESP. Even though I can't afford an ESP I'd look down my nose at the LTD. All that said I owned a Korean LTD MH-1000 Deluxe a few years back. Found it in a pawn shop for $125. I don't think they knew what it was. Probably the nicest guitar I've owned. I rarely played it. It was mint and so nice I didn't want to scratch it. Traded it for a early '90's Jackson Fusion( Dinky body Gibson scale length). I fell in love with that scale and been jonesing for something with a Les Paul vibe but a more shredder neck. Picked up an EC-401 over the weekend. I really like it. Neck could stand to be a tad thinner like my Jackson as I'm still love the feel of the mid '90's Jackson Professional series, but I'm really warming up to this LTD. I'm curious what the extra thin U shape on the limited edition LTD KH3 feels like.
Yes bro! I'm still shocked my the quality of LTD guitars! They're so great and I'm glad you had an MH1000!!
Wow!
Can I have the name of that pawn shop?
@@paulallyngoff7472Sorry I can't reveal my sources :).
Louis... what’s up bro...
I was in GC one day and saw a used LTD EC-401-QM (Korean) for $350. It was filthy but looked cool. Took it home and polished it, steel wool to the frets, oiled the fretboard, and gave it a proper setup, and man... the guitar is awesome. The craftsmanship was great and it plays amazingly.
It’s a guitar I reach for most often these days. Just a testament to how good the Korean made LTD’s are.
I do want to get a M-1000 deluxe soon.
Yo... How come you’re banned from Reverb???!!!
I’ve owned quite a few ESPs. I’ve never owned a custom. I’ve owned multiple standard and E-IIs. Recently I snagged an LTD Arrow (Korean made) and the trem cavity was cut too small. Other than that it was perfect. The guitar plays great, but if I ever wanted to add springs, the trem cavity is too small and the springs will rub against the wall of the trem cavity and it will catch when I’m dive bombing. . Kind of a bummer. ESP make my favorite guitars for sure. I think I was just unlucky here.
If you had an ESP E-II neck-thru body, then there's really no difference between them. I have a few E-II models and they are every bit a Custom. :)
I've a, 2014 Ltd ex-360 that I would never sell. I have the new ex black metal, a 07 Ltd ex -400, a bunch of Epiphones and two Gibsons. The 360 has something special about it
Did they go back to Korea then? The new LTD MH-1000 ET is made in Korea. Thoughts?
Did they move back to the Korean factory? I didn't know. Unless I play one first. :)
@@louistorres right? I just looked up the new model and it says made in Korea... imo if that is the case, might just have to actually buy one
I believe the high end 1000s are still Korean. World Guitar craftsmanship is excellent.
This was entertaining. I have a newer Korean MH1000NT (my video is actually on the ESP website on that guitars page, the purple MH1000NT). I bought one and it showed up and was absolutely gorgeous but had crazy fret buzz on the first fret no matter what I did with the setup and had some finish flaws going on so I returned it and got another one and it's amazing. I love it very much. Plays killer, looks killer, sounds killer. I also bought one of their newer D-6 basses last year and had to return it. It was like a b-stock. Lots of crap going on with that thing. So kinda hit and miss in the QC dept. but when you get a good one.....yeah man. It's good!!!!
Oh no, sorry you ran into those issues but glad you returned them and got better replacements! Hell yeah!
In my opinion, I think the upper mid range Ltd are among the best on the market in their price range. This weekend I am going to get a Ltd H3-1000 de luxe in the second hand market and it is absolutely awesome.
Ivan! You're going to love it! The 1000 series are incredible guitars!
I bought an Indonesian 2016 model from guitar center recently. The guy told me it has stainless steel frets I doubted it but later realized they were shiny as hell after a month still shines lol and it has the steel color on it no yellowish tint to it. I took the pickups apart to add some springs which were missing and found out they were nazgul sentient pickups. Theyre pretty good . Neck pickup especially sounds good on single coil great strat sound and nazgul sounds more like a telecaster. Only problem is the frets feel sharp snd looks like the ends lifted up a bit. I guess thats normal with a used guitar tho. I sanded the neck so its super smooth now. Im thinking of modding it maybe idk
Watch a few videos on filing down the fret edges but man, what a steal! I love Nazgul and Sentient pickups!! Yeah bro, upgrade it when you get the chance, little by little.
@@louistorresthanks ill check out and definitely man. Im gonna do a partial split mod so it sounds cleaner and more powerful in single coil mode like prs does. I need to do something about the volume knob for a more gradual roll off instead of it sounding like an on off switch. Im gonna have it brought in for a setup to fix up the frets crown level and fret end dressing, earvana nut and new tuneomatic installed and filed for low action. Maybe i can get the fretboard edges rolled too lol 😂
I have a M-10!! Yes, bro! M-10!!! The most cheap guitar by ESP/LTD. I'm from South America (Brazil). And here, even picks are expensive!
Seriously? Even picks are expensive?
@Jack Ryder Uh, no. Music is about many things including creativity. Your hands are part of it but, how about singers? See? Too many people out there trying to say epic shit while ending up sounding dumb.
I'm planning on getting a MH-17 with my sweet disability check next month or keep working on my partscaster.
I have two ltd 1000 series and love both of them. They play awesome. I can't see paying thousands more just for it to say ESP on the headstock. Even though I kinda do want one..... 😆
You would get an ESP Custom neck thru body and be like, I just paid for a sticker that reads ESP. If you want something better, get the KH602 or JH600 which are both true neck-thru and not set-neck. You'd be shocked!
I have a Korean made Left Handed LTD Sn-1000 and it’s amazing, super versatile and lightweight
this guy makes good shit! like seriously right up my alley really gets me excited watching
Thanks brother! I try to make my videos without any script, without ten camera angles and it's just me being me. Thanks for literally understanding my style... It's like chillin' with you guys at a bar. :)
Just bought a mint 2006 Ltd M-1000 off reverb, thanks for being banned LOL great video thanks!
Hahahaha! I'm glad you got one! Yeah man, you literally have a guitar that's 95% an ESP Custom. Next, you should get an LTD Signature, any of the 600 models, they are 99% an ESP Custom and are true neck-thru body. Grab a Kirk hammett or Jeff hanneman.
I have a ESP LTD ec-1000T and love it ! In fact I'm getting ready to get a EC1000 w/EMGs . Great guitars.
I'll find another M1000 one day. :) Loved my old one it was legit man. Good video.
Wes! You totally need to get another one. I was so shocked that I HAD to get another one, just to confirm that they really are this great AND THEY ARE!!! : ) Glad you liked it, bro!
@@louistorres I regret having to sell it years ago but it was one of those things where money got tight back in the day. Since then I've got other guitars but always search for the perfect m1000 :)
I have both Korea made EC-1000 & M-1000 and the 2002 year M-1000 is my favorite guitar. They sound even more better if you swap out the Floyd trem block with a solid brass unit and IMO the EMG's sounded a bit too brittle for my taste in the M-1000 BUT sound great in the LP style EC-1000. I swapped in a set of active Duncan Gus G's in the M-1000 and man it made a huge difference. A much warmer and smoother tone but same attack. I also replaced all Floyd screws and all body screws with titanium. My M-1000 has a jet black non flamed top though.
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I've played LTD guitars for years. I own 3 ECs (1000, 401VF, and 256) And an MH-1007ET. Save for my Paul Reed Smith, they are the only guitars I play. My only regret, however, is not buying at least 2 ESP Custom Shop guitars when I lived in Japan, had plenty of money, and no bills or kids.
You know what bro, your LTD 1000s are just the same as any ESP Custom. The only difference that I see is the price. The craftsmanship in the LTD 1000 models are literally exactly the same, it's crazy.
@@louistorres That is very true. They're obviously built to the same specs and standards and with the same materials. I got to be honest though (and I'm willing to admit that this could be the placebo effect. Lol), but there was just something about those Japanese ESPs. They just felt different in the hands. Plus they had a ton of models that you can't find here in the States. Not unless you REALLY look for them. They were the kind that you only find in the ESP catalog. But as for quality and sound, dead-on accurate.
The thing with the "abalone" is what happen to girls the first time they look at me...they look away, buuuuut when you get use to it...you love it!!! Nice and honest video like always, bro!! Stay safe man
I've had LTDs and ESPs. Don't mind the LTDs, but I can't stand when people that list them for sale put "ESP EC-1000"... stop trying to upsell it
Well, it‘s still an ESP just as an Epiphone is a Gibson. Stop falling for upsale strategies used by big corporate.
@@flowryan5829 They are not the same. Epiphone is not a Gibson. Epiphone is a separate company that was around before Gibson, which Les Paul worked for. He convinced Fibson to buy Epiphone. ESP is not LTD either. LTD is a production line designed after ESP. This is common knowledge
@@voodoocustompickups2547 oh trust me, I know the history behind almost every big guitar company just as good as anybody else.
@@voodoocustompickups2547 But an Epiphone stays a Gibson just as an LTD stays an ESP. There ain‘t one without the other.
@@flowryan5829 Epiphone is not Gibson. Gibson is made in the USA while Epiphone is made in China. LTD is not ESP. First it says "Designed by ESP" on it and second it is made in a factory in Vietnam, China or Korea. ESP is strictly made in Japan or USA
LTD's are fantastic. 1000-series LTD's are all any 'home studio' player will ever need. The pickups on the 1000 series are on par with anything else in production. LTD's sound great right out of the box.
If you set string heights to spec LTD's feel ~almost~ the same as an ESP. LTD's come a little 'dry' out of the kiln, and the necks accept a tremendous amount of oil. A side-of-fret swat here and there with the 3000-grit sandpaper block and some XXXX steel wool, and you're getting to that attention to detail level that you get from Kiso, you're just not getting it from the assembly line. You will have to do that part yourself. With a little love you can oil that fretboard to a furniture-grade black, and you'll never tell the difference after a year or so of 'break in' unless you look down at the headstock. They break-in very nicely, and I always point my students towards the LTD 1000 line.
If you're a touring musician, the chromium alloy parts will begin to corrode much faster than stainless steel due to sweat under stage lights. Stainless holds up, night after night. You'll find that your premium components will stand up to tour rigors much more effectively than the softer metals, especially if you get condensation going from cold to hot climates on the same run. Once the 'orange' in the chromium parts starts to show, swap them out with stainless components. Get ya some Tone Ninjas on the headstock, sculpt a bone nut to match the composite, and you're quickly coming close to ESP-land with your LTD, at about 1/6th the cost.
A new M-I custom is $5,995. An LTD M-HT series is about $999. With $20 for a new bone nut, $60 for some good tuners, $25 for a good jack plate, and about $5 in sandpaper and a little elbow grease you can get what you want for pennies on the dollar.
I have nothing but good things to say about LTD's.
My first guitar was an LTD F-50 made in Indonesia, after a few months I managed to exchange it for a LTD M-200FM. I liked these guitars. But then I bought a white LTD DV8-R and I was delighted with it, I think it was the best guitar I have ever had. But then I had to sell it. A few years later I bought an ESP V-II STD, it was a good guitar, but it was worse than the DV8-R. I had to sell the V-II STD again and after a while I bought the LTD V-500, I did not feel the difference between them, they sound almost the same, but the V-500 also falls short of the DV8-R in terms of quality and sound, but still I like her. In a few months I will try to look for a black DV8-R, I really hope that I can find it in almost new condition. This model means a lot to me because it was played by one of my favorite guitarists (Dallas Coyle). I would love to buy a black ESP DV8, but for my country it costs too much money. I think that new guitars of all manufacturers have become worse, in fact, this applies to almost all products, not just guitars.
For real? I have a player grade black dv8r and was thinking of a v2 std. It's worse than the ltd?
@@model101jr5 I don't know why, but I don't regret selling the V-II STD. Top LTDs used to be very good. I don't think it makes sense to change DV8-R to ESP. I recently bought a Peavey 6505 MH, which made me realize that having a good guitar (I don't think anyone would argue that top LTDs are good guitars) is better to focus on buying better gear. Although, if you really want ESP and it will motivate you to play even more than now, then in this case, buying a new guitar also makes sense.
@@xxxDiabloNeroxxx I have that dv8r, two ed roman customs that cost waaaaaay more , and a schecter jvl7 nt. And I think I like the ltd the most . To the point of I e seriously considered selling the other sand investing in more ltd's and a Kemper stage. Idk gas is a disease. First world problems I know lol
Always great
Thanks brother! Love your channel and you're a beast of a guitarist! :)
I have 2 Ltd DV8R Dave Mustaine V’s from 2003 1 is the tequila sunrises #186 of 200 both made in Korea and I love them. Same specs as the ESP version with locking tuners and tone pro bridge. I’ve tried both versions and couldn’t tell the difference.
Same with my 06 dv8
My MH-400 from 2006 plays just as good as my EII horizon.
Yes bro! The LTDs from that era are literally the best!
The title confused me because I thought they pulled a Fender and made a new brand called LTD because of the line of guitars. But no, LTD is still an ESP they’re talking about the ESP custom lines.
I've got may hands on an LTD ALX-600 SE Pinky. Can't afford an ESP Alexi Laiho obviously. Short of that machine, it's very well made. Solid stuff.
If I remember, that was a limited run too! That's awesome! I know your 600-SE is a beast! that black and pink is perfect too! I've been eyeing a pink Kiesel Aries! Such a great color!
I dig your passion you crack me up
Hahahaha! I'm glad I can make you laugh, that's everything right there, bro. Having a good time. :)
Just got bought my first LTD M-1000 for my birthday this year. I was looking at the E-II Horizons but opted for this one first as I am still fairly new to guitar. I will probably get a "proper" ESP at some point.
I use to be a Dean VMNT player, but in 2012 I bought my first ESP Ltd and I never turned back. I have a Ltd Buz-7 and two Ltd EC 1000ET. Love them!
Got an LTD 256, it's amazing. even the stock pickups sound great
damn it, you made me click AGAIN!
you're truely a formidable foe, Lou!
i had that exact same guitar , same spec , same color same everything , i ordered brand new from a store in jersey after shopping around in 05 , i paid i believe around 445 shipped to me , i no longer have it but boy do i regret letting it go .
couple years ago I got the LTD MH-350FR. VERY unknown guitar but plays fucking amazing. It's a 700 dollar guitar but plays better than most Ernie Ball Majesty's I've tried. ESP is truly a great company
I'm deciding between a 2019 ESP E-ii Viper and a new LTD VIPER-1000 .... what do you think?
by the way, the ESP had its EMG's swapped out for Duncan Nazgul/Sentient.
I bet they are nearly identical with the E-II being made in Japan with the same templates while the LTD is either Korea or Indonesia.
He has customs 😎
That's all I buy now. I had Standards for years but literally sold my Standards you get Customs. There's such a huge difference and they're not usually much more, used of course. :)
@@louistorres I’m looking at a schecter banshee custom . Beautiful and a low price
@@louistorres so an esp eclipse custom Japan is gonna play and feel way better than an esp standard Japan ?
you must have a good job to be able to collect esp guitars . i can only afford the ltd 200 series and to me they are some of the best built low end guitars. anyway i love watching your vids and since i cant afford esp i will just look at yours lol. keep rockin man.
I always wonder the same thing about these guys. They seem like regular dudes just like us until they nonchalantly show off loads of expensive guitars.
Just bought an LTD MH-200QM. Looks and sounds amazing for $500. I think back in the 90’s-00’s you had to pay to get quality. Now, you can get a quality guitar out of the box for $500 and it will sound and feel just as good as the $1000 and up.
I got offered a ESP LTD MH-1001NT for about $380!
I tried an ESP E-ii M-i a few days ago, and man now I'm hooked. Maybe I should get a ESP/LTD V instead of a Gibson
Personally, after owning several Gibsons throughout the years, I'd take an LTD or ESP all day! The build is phenomenal, just try an LTD or ESP V, you'll be shocked!
@@louistorres I will! Still trying to find one here!
You’ll have another real ESP in the next 3 months lol! 😉 The LTD 1000’s are indeed great 🤘🏻
You know! I would have always agreed but I swear, I can buy another LTD or four for the price of a used ESP! Next is an LTD MH-1000 bc I love Horizons!
ESPs are awesome period
There is a massive difference between a ltd and an esp guitar although ltds are nice they don't compare to a esp made .I have a $1300.00 demonology Ltd and a $6300.00 Kami 1 made in Japan there not even debatable. The only way someone would not know that is if they played an LTD their whole life and never tried a Esp guitar.only my opinion I actually bragged about my ltd until I played a esp guitar myself.
Bro, I think you're crazy. I personally own 12 ESPs and nine LTD 1000 series models and I think the complete opposite. There's absolutely no reason to buy an ESP unless you're like me and don't know what else to buy bc my money tree never stops. My LTD JH600 and LTD KH-601 are exactly as my 1987 ESP M1, 1990 ESP MII, 1991 ESP MII, my second ESP MII (bc I had to buy two of the same) 1992 ESP MII, 1996 ESP Horizon, 1986 ESP Mirage, 1997 ESP Maverick and whatever other ESPs I have bc I have 53 guitars. Lol.
I got my LTD BW-1 about a month ago. I love it, and have no remorse.
Hands down, best clickbait on the internet 🤘
Cool video. I got the white LTD SNAKEBYTE a few years ago and I can't believe the quality. The ebony fretboard it top-notch and the fit and finish is immaculate. Plays and sounds awesome.
There is a white one with maple fret board on reverb for like $1400, its definitely sick, but not at that price. How do you get along with the finished necks? Are they sticky?
I usually tape off the two ends of my necks then hit it with a 0000 steal pad. It mattes it out a bit and makes it perfect. So none of my guitars are sticky at all. I never give it the chance; it's the first thing I do. :)
I have a ESP LTD ST-203 since 2011 made in Vietnam and it neck n playability, fret work is better than my 2020 USA Strat Performer
Ive got a green ec1000 from 09. Great guitar with an awesome top. Ive got a few vids of it on here. Even had guys on here asking if i wanna sell
If everything goes well- I'm getting the m-1007 ht. Thanks for your input on this. BTW- I got banned from Reverb too!😆
You're going to love that guitar!!