My First Roll of Harman Phoenix 200, in the Leica M4-P
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- I had the opportunity to try out Harman Phoenix 200 prior to its release. It's a very imperfect film with a number of real (and potential) flaws, but I absolutely love it.
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00:00 Start
00:19 Film Overview
04:51 Shooting Details
06:17 Pros
10:14 Cons
12:54 Deep Dive
14:20 Conclusion
17:55 Gallery - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Thank for the thorough review Alex:) Just one small point, the film is actually on a tri-acetate not PET base. We will be adding this info to our technical data sheet.
Thank you! I'll point that clarification out in the future videos. My gut feeling was really that it's CTA but it behaves quite a bit like PET so I took a guess! Once my new filter arrives I'll be doing more cross-processing tests.
So far, besides Bad Flashes you have made the most comprehensive video about this film. Really appreciate your technical evaluations and reviews! :)
I'll happily take that :)
As usual, the best film reviews on TH-cam. I like film that has a look for my personal work. Hopefully it won't be too expensive in Sweden.
I think I'll be using it to document the Christmas holidays :) If you do use it and share to Instagram, let me know when you post! Thank you.
@@Shaka1277 Cool idea. You’re following me on IG so keep your eyes peeled ;-)
I think you've done the best and most detailed overview of this film that I've watched so far. Sounds like the 'influencers' that sent their film off to labs (at least here in the US) suffered from bad scans. And most of those videos were just 'hey- here's a new film, watch me take pictures with it!' Your video deserves WAY more views. I think overexposure is the key on this film.
You've earned a subscriber, and I'm part of the older film demographic, I remember printing Cibachrome in the 80s. You kids have missed out (but the chemicals were a hazmat spill in a box). I've got a few rolls of Phoenix on order, and will be subjecting them to NLP conversion. I also want to try old-school RA4 printing. And I'm very interested in E6 cross process. That too was a good video.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. Something else I've noticed in other videos (mainly the US ones) is that their negs are MUCH more purple than mine. I have to wonder if the type of bleach/blix matters quite that much, or if it's something else.
@@Shaka1277 well, I'm going to find out. I use Kodak flexicolor c41 in a Jobo. That could be an interesting comparison. I'll see what develops (ha!).
Analogue photographers owe Harmond/Illford a lot because they were instrumental in keeping film alive. There B&W are all very good including the lower silver Kentmere that they also made into 120 size. I use film and chemicals from Harmond. While my basic choice is Kodak TMAX 100. I love Delta 100 and generally only use Illford Rapid Fix. For them to spend the money and time to develop a colour film is tribute to their film community support. Folks who shoot colour should buy some Phoenix just to support the Harmond efforts. I don't shoot a lot of color but I bought 2 rolls to support the effort.
I'm quite a fan of TMax 100 but for general shooting I'm extremely happy with Kentmere 100 in my TLR! Kentmere in 120 is fantastic.
After watching a few videos on this film yours is the first one that shows someone who actually knows how to meter and process film. Beautiful shots that give a feeling of what this film is actually capable of. Great work!
I have seen some honestly sub-par scans so I'm glad I went to the effort and that some people feel it showcases the film a bit better. Thanks for the kind words!
TH-cam recommended this video and I'm glad I watched, a wonderful review of Harman Phoenix. I have a couple of rolls here waiting to be shot over the weekend and excited to see what I get. I've also been browsing a few of your other videos and found them all very enjoyable. I'm a fellow Dublin based film photographer and a new subscriber to your channel. Thanks.
Thanks for the detailed testing
So these scans look way, way better than my images. I may get back in touch with my lab for a re-scan with the appropriate settings.
Your photos came out so much better than everyone else's
Thanks for the in depth review, and... some of those photos just aren’t fair because they’re so good! ;)
by far the best review I've seen.
man, everybody got this film!!
As I have come to expect here, a very complete and thoughtful analysis of this new film. The film sounds like a prototype, although Harmon seems to have checked off all the desirable boxes, except for grain and resolution. The color balance and contrast look particularly nice to me. The resolution issue may be a matter of bringing color dye coupler migration to heel. Given the short development time, I was expecting less. Unhappily, this won't be a film I'm likely to use, as I remain firmly rooted in RA-4 printing, and the lack of a color balancing mask (that red-orange thing) will make it practically useless in that venue. Finally, the polyester film base will make this film a no-no for the "richy-rich" who want to use their LabBox processing tanks for 35mm film, as it cannot cut the film from the cartridge. If Ilford/Harmon can overcome the "cons" mentioned as they further refine this film, and if they can hold the reported price point, I think they will sell every roll they can manufacture. Good on 'em.
Thanks Randall! Definitely not a film for everybody. I've seen some RA-4 prints actually, and the results look good.
Ribsy has done some RA4 from it. Says the colour correction is considerably different (obviously), but he's pleased with the results.
That base is interesting, might work well as a reversal film in E6 chemistry
Check my other video on it :) I had more than one roll, so tried to do something different.
Support them to encourage new film color design. This film best suited for photo artist and hardcore hobbyist. Lov ethe color.
First this morning I saw that beach portrait on Flickr and a couple of hours later I ran across this video. It is a small world... of film shooters :)
Great video! It's always nice to see an Irish based creator post and seeing your local areas of bray and surrounding locations is always lovely. Thank you for giving me some inspiration for locations. I subscribed right away!
Thanks Ben! I'll check out your Instagram later!
I'm very grateful for this very clear-headed view of the film. It will help me make sense of the two rolls that are coming my way (I'll get Harman to process and scan them and then repeat the scanning at home with a flatbed scanner and then camera plus light panel).
I'm delighted that so many people are finding my video *useful*. I try to be a resource rather than an entertainer and I'm glad it's paying off. If you have any questions don't hesitate to reach out!
It's so refreshing to sea a new color film with unique colors and rendering. Very informative video! I've watched at least 10 other reviews of that film and it's like everyone had a different film. In the end, it all comes down to scanning and you did a fantastic job! Great contrast, great colors, as it should be.
Thank you for your excellent review of Phoenix 200. Film renaissance - let's goooo! :)
i shot it +1.5 stops and kind of regret it. high contrast scenes have to be composed really carefully with this stock which i learned the hard way😂 i still like it and i think i'll get another roll, especially considering it might be the last roll i can get for that cheap. these greens caused by certain artificial light sources really came out on my roll though, made for some awesome although unexpected matrix looks.
Awesome. Really enjoy your enthusiasm and knowledge sharing ✌🏽
Best film reviews on the tube. And not just that you have an absolute fantastic eye. I loved every single shot.
Also the film seems to be a real chameleon it can look like kodak / cinestill but it also has those wintery cold green fuji vibes!
I hope they continue this journey.
Thank you! It was stressful trying to make every shot count and I do feel I did well. Definitely one of my best rolls in a long time in they sense.
I'm really looking forward to what they do next!
Great informative video with this new film, a lot of work involved, great pictures with it, bravo!
I'm not a film color but there is something i like into it, i will give a try👍
Great job Alex!
Great video as always, I'll have to pick up w roll soon!
Excellent review, thanks for the trouble you've gone to with testing this new product, the future of Harman Colour is very promising
This is by far the best video I've seen on this film and I've watched a lot of them the last couple of days. I'd love to see you do something like these videos for Orwo NC400 and NC500 as there isn't much out there on those films. You've got yourself a new subscriber, keep up the good work.
Thank you! Those films are on the cards, in a sort of a way. 😉
@@Shaka1277and colour mission? Seems everyone kinda forgot about it.
Light piping is mostly caused by the material of the base, not really the color of it (since that is usually just a relatively light tint). For example, a PET base is very prone to light piping, which is the base of Aerocolor according to Kodak (ESTAR PET).
Your sample pictures the best 've seen! I really don't like the grain and awful shadows! Anyway I'm not one judge, as I use digital for color! In my BW HP5+, I often see colors, reds and blues. Panchromatic films see colors! Rodinal developer is a color developer! Bravo!
I feel bad plugging another video but in my recent C-41 Phoenix video I improved the grain and shadows by rating at 100 and pulling -1 stop!
If you shot this film at 100, would you have the lab process for 100 or for box speed? Looks like you got good results overexposing and processing normally, just curious if a -1 pull would reduce grain and increase detail at all. Love the review, very informative!
That's something I want to try! I didn't have enough rolls to try a pull too, as it's something I don't really do myself at home and our labs don't offer it.
I am super excited but also frustrated no stores in New Zealand or even Australia have it. Probably going to buy from B&H but their postage to this part of the world is a ransom lol
Pity :( Maybe reach out to Harman and check first? Even in Ireland not every store has it right now so there could be delays/it could be phased.
@@Shaka1277I ended up purchasing 3 rolls, and a 3 pack of Lomo800 from Photodom NYC the cost came out about $50 cheaper then B&H so it wasn't so bad :) Looking forward to comparing it with the new Orwo films I have in my fridge
@@phillipbanes5484 indeed :( I ended uo buying my film from Photodom NYC Aand saved about $50 for the same items, but indeed postage was still a bit but thats ok I'm happy as long as postage isnt more then the cost of the actual film hahaha