Just got my roll back and wow. PUNCHY! I am going to def shoot it 1 stop over next time and scan at home. Lab scans are so dark. Understandable being an experimental film and excited for the future of the stock.
I liked the first photos of the brick building. Love the saturation of Orange. The reason I love Ektar and Fuji xtra . I guess this is like a lomography film as far as them saying to use it at 100 200 400 speeds. And I would use this for portraits. I use all film for everything and not what it says to use it for. I am an experimentalist and the reason I shooot film only. I like the unpredictability of results. It's like traditional painting. When the paint dries it could be a different shade of from what you started with.
Great video! wish i watched this before I shot my first roll of this film stock. I was not happy with the results but now I know how to go about shooting it the next time around.
Did you do the scanning yourself or did the lab do it for you? I'm thinking about NLP's "standard lab" profile after conversion which is meant to replicate the curve that labs give you and I often find it too contrasty. Maybe the film itself has a lot of contrast built in, plus more contrast from the lab and it becomes almost unusable.
I used to work at a film lab and the techs there said it actually looks best when scanned with an epson scanner. Their fuji scanner made the film look HORRIBLE. But they looked incredible on someone’s personal epson 600 scanner
i’m just not impressed with the film. there’s such a strong contrast and it often looks like the quality of a polaroid. every review i’ve seen of this film, the results have been completely underwhelming - and not due to the photographers themselves.
I totally agree, but they have to pay the bills, so you know, youtube, crap and stuffs (what did you expect from a channel sponsored by squareeeeeespaaaace ?)
I think you should shoot digital if you are looking for a perfect results. These are first batches of the film and they created this from the gound up. It will be better in the future for sure.
I just picked up this film up today. and I talked to my friendly lab tech for a while about it. I am going to try and use it in a controlled environment, for some moody portraits. I feel like this could maybe possibly be an amazing film stock for indoor medium to low light moody images. outdoor in bright sun and dark shadows really bright out the worst in the contrast. imo. still cool though
Great video! I absolutely thought I botched my roll when I get the scans back. It was the worst I'd shot in years. Then, as I learned more about the stock, I'm pretty sure I crushed it on my first roll. 🙂
So you shot three different ISOs on the same roll of film? I'm not sure that's what they mean by shooting at three ISOs. Normally, you shoot one ISO per roll. I've never heard of a film that was flexible when it comes to changing ISO on one roll. I mean...How is the lab going to know how to process it? Don't you have to let them know which ISO you used and then they process accordingly? If this in fact does have the capability to handle three ISOs on one roll of film at a time, then that's really cool! I can't tell you how many times I've wanted a film that was flexible like that.
He’s specifically under and over exposing the film by a stop each way, assuming 200 as box speed and developing for that. It’s a way to test the exposure latitude of the film - fairly standard
Thanks a lot for the content! I just bought this film and I'll definitely use your tips to try to get the best results out of it 😁 If I could just ask for one thing, it would be great if you wrote down the apperture and shutter speed of the photos when you show the results. Sorry, but as a non-native English speaker, it's a bit hard for me to get that just from you saying it. It's easier if it's written down. Other than that, perfect content, thanks a lot for your effort in doing that and kindness in sharing it 😊
I want to try shoot one and there is a store that sells them, however idk how much it priced on US but here its almost as expensive as Portra so I got conflicted on buying one 😕
There are quite a few Phoenix review videos on TH-cam and everyone seems to be putting it into an F3 to test. I just ordered a roll, and guess what, I plan to use my F3 as well. Your review was super helpful, so thanks for sharing. Luckily winter in Scotland doesn't give much contrast so that may be in my favour 😊
I really think the only decent results I have seen from this stock which still doesn't look amazing as it is still quite new was from Kyle McDougal. I would look at his videos as he goes in depth on pushing and pulling the film and how to maybe get the best results of this film stock.
And I forgot to mention this in my initial comment, but I think it is important that photographers like you show bracketing for this film and the experimentation that is important with film photography.
For the price of Kodak portra, I’m not so sure this is a good film. I just picked up 5 rolls. Thanks for the video. We shall see. It looks like if I want to pay safe, I shall use it in over cast Seattle weather. When the sun is out, I will expose for the highlights and expecting the shadows to go black.
Every youtuber trying to play nice and say how psyched they are for new film, but good god it just looks terrible in every single review. They say "Harman SAYS it's experimental, they admit they could've used more time developing it."....Then they should have.
Hmm. Those scans look like they have been messed up by the lab. I don't think that any of the labs knew what scanner profile to use with this stuff, hence the wild contrast and bizarre colour palette. If I had to guess, I'd say that - like consumer level C41 films, the contrast and colour is "baked in" and needs no adjustments. In fact, a lot of the scans in the video look like my original scans of Ultramax or Gold, converted in NLP with Noritsu or Frontier profiles. My first roll is away bieng developed, but when I get it back, I'm going to scan and convert with a completely linear tone profile and see what happens.
Thank you for this. My first roll looked awful and I was frustrated cuz everyone else's videos looked perfect
This film is UNIQUE. Not everyone likes it but I can see people loving this film for what it is and experimenting to get some cool results!
thanks for sharing, beautiful work with those pics!
cannot wait to try this film out🙏
I really love Phoenix, its applications are limited but I can’t wait to try it out in the snow.
Just got my roll back and wow. PUNCHY! I am going to def shoot it 1 stop over next time and scan at home. Lab scans are so dark. Understandable being an experimental film and excited for the future of the stock.
I liked the first photos of the brick building. Love the saturation of Orange. The reason I love Ektar and Fuji xtra . I guess this is like a lomography film as far as them saying to use it at 100 200 400 speeds. And I would use this for portraits. I use all film for everything and not what it says to use it for. I am an experimentalist and the reason I shooot film only. I like the unpredictability of results. It's like traditional painting. When the paint dries it could be a different shade of from what you started with.
Thank you for the review! About to try mine today 🎉😊
Great video! wish i watched this before I shot my first roll of this film stock. I was not happy with the results but now I know how to go about shooting it the next time around.
Did you do the scanning yourself or did the lab do it for you?
I'm thinking about NLP's "standard lab" profile after conversion which is meant to replicate the curve that labs give you and I often find it too contrasty. Maybe the film itself has a lot of contrast built in, plus more contrast from the lab and it becomes almost unusable.
I used to work at a film lab and the techs there said it actually looks best when scanned with an epson scanner. Their fuji scanner made the film look HORRIBLE. But they looked incredible on someone’s personal epson 600 scanner
i’m just not impressed with the film. there’s such a strong contrast and it often looks like the quality of a polaroid. every review i’ve seen of this film, the results have been completely underwhelming - and not due to the photographers themselves.
I totally agree, but they have to pay the bills, so you know, youtube, crap and stuffs (what did you expect from a channel sponsored by squareeeeeespaaaace ?)
@@chriscard6544jealousy is ugly
Why do you bother shooting film then. You seem like you prefer digital.
I think you should shoot digital if you are looking for a perfect results. These are first batches of the film and they created this from the gound up. It will be better in the future for sure.
we like some truth maybe.
I just picked up this film up today. and I talked to my friendly lab tech for a while about it. I am going to try and use it in a controlled environment, for some moody portraits. I feel like this could maybe possibly be an amazing film stock for indoor medium to low light moody images. outdoor in bright sun and dark shadows really bright out the worst in the contrast. imo. still cool though
Great video! I absolutely thought I botched my roll when I get the scans back. It was the worst I'd shot in years. Then, as I learned more about the stock, I'm pretty sure I crushed it on my first roll. 🙂
Picked up 4 rolls myself can’t wait to try it :) lovely shots 🎉
I’d definitely underexposed it and push it both one stop and cross process in E-6 to see the result,
So you shot three different ISOs on the same roll of film? I'm not sure that's what they mean by shooting at three ISOs. Normally, you shoot one ISO per roll. I've never heard of a film that was flexible when it comes to changing ISO on one roll. I mean...How is the lab going to know how to process it? Don't you have to let them know which ISO you used and then they process accordingly? If this in fact does have the capability to handle three ISOs on one roll of film at a time, then that's really cool! I can't tell you how many times I've wanted a film that was flexible like that.
He’s specifically under and over exposing the film by a stop each way, assuming 200 as box speed and developing for that. It’s a way to test the exposure latitude of the film - fairly standard
I bought two tolls - primarily to show my support of Harman. But I appreciate these recommendations.
Thanks a lot for the content! I just bought this film and I'll definitely use your tips to try to get the best results out of it 😁
If I could just ask for one thing, it would be great if you wrote down the apperture and shutter speed of the photos when you show the results. Sorry, but as a non-native English speaker, it's a bit hard for me to get that just from you saying it. It's easier if it's written down. Other than that, perfect content, thanks a lot for your effort in doing that and kindness in sharing it 😊
Dang! What an awesome opportunity to get to checkout more of the fortress/base.
Got couple of rolls to try out..can't wait
Fort Point is a Civil War era fortication and is simular in design to Fort Sumter in South Carolina.
PLEASE try cross processing it in E-6!
Love the video. Love the images. But cmon, a Dodgers hat at Fort Point? Wild lol You’re cursed now 😂
I want to try shoot one and there is a store that sells them, however idk how much it priced on US but here its almost as expensive as Portra so I got conflicted on buying one 😕
Looks like Ektar with blown out highlights. Don't love this film but good that there are more options.
Wait, you changed the iso on the same roll?
Over and under exposed from box speed, AKA Bracketing!
@@Caballeroshot so how's the development for that? 🤔
@@crwn_munkz Develop at box speed.
@@Caballeroshot makes sense
There are quite a few Phoenix review videos on TH-cam and everyone seems to be putting it into an F3 to test.
I just ordered a roll, and guess what, I plan to use my F3 as well. Your review was super helpful, so thanks for sharing. Luckily winter in Scotland doesn't give much contrast so that may be in my favour 😊
I really think the only decent results I have seen from this stock which still doesn't look amazing as it is still quite new was from Kyle McDougal. I would look at his videos as he goes in depth on pushing and pulling the film and how to maybe get the best results of this film stock.
And I forgot to mention this in my initial comment, but I think it is important that photographers like you show bracketing for this film and the experimentation that is important with film photography.
it's Xmas time, so I will be very nice: this film is a pure....beauty, best film, it will replace Portra.... 😅
the king!!!
That battery failure is exactly why I stuck with the Nikon F2.
I thought the f3 has a 1/80 mechanical shutter speed without batteries
Definitely 1/60
I think one has to pick the right shot for this film.
You made this film stock look good where as other reviewers have not
Except for the halation, Phoenix reminds me of Adox ColorMission 200.
I don't think lab scans are the way to go with Phonenix.
here is why it is absurd, a good test should be done with prints, not scans, just my opinion about film photography in general.
For the price of Kodak portra, I’m not so sure this is a good film. I just picked up 5 rolls. Thanks for the video. We shall see. It looks like if I want to pay safe, I shall use it in over cast Seattle weather. When the sun is out, I will expose for the highlights and expecting the shadows to go black.
Everything I've seen from this film stock has convinced me to absolutely never buy it.
Every youtuber trying to play nice and say how psyched they are for new film, but good god it just looks terrible in every single review. They say "Harman SAYS it's experimental, they admit they could've used more time developing it."....Then they should have.
@@RyanEdwardWise to me it's a way to avoid non serious channels, who sold their soul
My shots all look like they were taken on Mars.
Yikes, reminds me of the early 2000’s where everything is highly contrasted
ALWAYS carry extra batteries when your shutter depends on it. Rookie mistake! :P
Hmm. Those scans look like they have been messed up by the lab. I don't think that any of the labs knew what scanner profile to use with this stuff, hence the wild contrast and bizarre colour palette. If I had to guess, I'd say that - like consumer level C41 films, the contrast and colour is "baked in" and needs no adjustments. In fact, a lot of the scans in the video look like my original scans of Ultramax or Gold, converted in NLP with Noritsu or Frontier profiles.
My first roll is away bieng developed, but when I get it back, I'm going to scan and convert with a completely linear tone profile and see what happens.
Sorry for the random question. My wife asks if you are fillipino.
limited lattitude is an understatment, Kodak has spoiled us and ripped us off.
Time to make a dope vlog. Oops my camera battery is dead, oops my video camera is almost dead. Oops this light is super harsh. A+ for effort 😂
It’s clearly just Kodak Gold re-packaged.
In other words...it's crap!