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Bought these back in June 2020 because of this review. 3 year later and I do not regret getting them and haven't had any problem with them👌
The feeling when you are listening to a Z review through the headphones he is reviewing and its positive...priceless
Saaaame...I feel dat. Impressive how well they're holding value too, isn't it?
@@casualmime2792 I have probably wasted 10s of thousands on gadgets since 2003 and have to say 450 for a used pair of 1990 have been the most amazing and rewarding investment I have ever made! Almost a year and I highly doubt I'm going to upgrade them until they stop working.
@@muslimsfortulsigabbard8646 there being shipped should be at my house soon!
@@djbloo8996 Great choice. You will LOVE IT. Once a while I take some lucy and watch either Queen or AC DC old live show. It is as if I travel back in time and attend that concert.
I've paired mine with a portable dac, oppo HA-2 which Z also liked it a lot on his review and the combination becomes magical. I haven't tried any decent desktop amp/dac, but I can only imagine the end result is even better than mine.
I really want to invest in a good amp/dac but I'm already too happy with my setup so it is a bit hard to justify the expense.
@@muslimsfortulsigabbard8646 mmm last time I took lucy I laid under the desk enjoying the music of my 58x I use a dac modi shit and jds atom I've only heard good things about the dt1990 cant wait :D
Just a heads-up guys, the 3rd-party sellers for the bundle look rather fishy. Strange email addresses and asking buyers to contact them "before ordering". I've read that there's been scams with that exact setup where they get you to move the transaction off of Amazon and run off with your money. These two sellers are also just launched and have no feedback ratings. I sent a test email yesterday to one of the sellers (selling the bundle for $350), and never even got a reply back. Just be careful out there.
A good note.
just to add since i also checked the seller (one of the sellers actually sent me a reply)...the payment to the seller of this bundle is through amazon gift card in which you can't identify the person. red flag already. thanks for this warning vince.
Without a doubt it's a scam. Anytime they are asking you to move the transaction off of eBay or amazon walk away. Just had a case with the seller moving his Xbox off eBay and paid through "PayPal". The shitbag sent an email with a fake PayPal transaction number. The seller assumed it was legit and shipped the Xbox The email actually said the funds were awaiting transfer but would need to clear the "refund" period of 14 days. Needless to say the seller never received him money and is now out an Xbox also.
Vince Chang - I found a bundle deal through Amazon. Never asked to go off site. Beach Camera is the seller also aka Buydig on Fleabay. Solid outfit FYI. I did some investigative work before purchasing...
Pay with credit card. No problem - although these are easy to spot. As you said, key phrase is "call before ordering". They probably offer you extra 10% off if you give them your card details directly. So in that sense same level as Nigerian 419 scam.
I finally bought these, I can't stop nodding my head to tracks I may have listened to on multiple headphones 100s of times. These are insanely good for their price point, beat out the T1 IMO.
The Balanced pads provide a slightly larger sound stage with aggressive, punchy bass spikes which can be incredibly fun to listen to. You do lose the ability to hear different levels of bass with these. These are worse for games as well.
The Analytical pads are slightly narrower however are far more natural and you can absolutely hear far more. Great for vocals and complex tracks . There is no "extra" bass as such you just hear all the bass which is lost with the B pads.
My DT 1990's arrive tomorrow! Cant wait to give them a spin.
They still spin with you?
Not gonna lie, I had a heart attack when I heard the JSRF soundtrack 'Humming The Bassline', high quality vidya gmae 10/10
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didnt know what you meant til it happened...3x
Z Reviews Can you please do the Lp2's from Vmoda anytime soon?
By the way, I hate to make you even more curious @Z Reviews, but the Gen 2 T1 has all the improvements of the DT1990 pro, including the nicer treble. The Amiron home is also like a HD 650, with treble closer to the DT1990. It doesn't sound anything like the T90.
I would rather see an all-out review of the M-100's - The one he did with the Crossfade LP really didn't do the M-100's justice.
Am I the only one who thinks that the 1990s highs are screaming in your ears? Like not pleasant at all and requiring equalizing absolutely
Ive been watching audiophile videos for weeks looking for engineering cans. I didnt understand what all the reviews meant by separation and other terms.. Until last night when I picked up a pair of Dt-880 and blasted them. I was blown away and couldn't believe Ive never heard sound in this way. Well woke up the day after and just bought the 1990's I am hooked. lol
Just be careful mate, I got into this hobbie a year ago, started with Ifi Zen dac, next minute I've got an RME ADI2, and 4 pairs of headphones, it's a expensive hobbie so get prepared lol
@@lukeizze can relate😭
made in Germany, you know the Germans always make good stuff.
Sounds like you are enjoying the DT 1990 as much as I do, though I prefer the balanced pads over the analytical. They definitely are neutral but are toe-tapping fun and euphoric.
I think Z got the pads' descriptions backwards. The primary difference in them is that that the pre-installed Balanced (B) pads will result in more bass than the Analytical (A) pads.
Kevin Smith - you got it! Balanced pads=B A S S
1bentley4ever how's the soundstage? are 1990 good for fps gaming?
Makoro Gaming this is a really good question! Did you get an answer for it?
yifeng3007 yes! It is good for gaming! www.head-fi.org/f/threads/beyerdynamic-dt-1990-pro-beyers-open-back-mastering-headphone.814629/page-39
Well, I thought I was in love with the looks of my Philips X2... these are the best looking cans I've ever seen. I absolutely love my DT-770s, so this is very tempting, but my X2s are already pretty damn good.
I heard these recently, and I was really impressed, they have incredible detail and have a unique stand apart sound
There were some pads recommended, i thought Sony but I can't find them, they were really "thick"
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Z Reviews effect
It was like that when I released. I just have poor timing.
+Z Reviews how long are the vids delayed compared to patreon?
Throwback to Jet Set Radio 0:02
Just got these and compared directly with my HD600, which I preferred over the HE-500 (which I liked more than the LCD 2c) and EL-8 Titanium. They're definitely more detailed in the highs over the hd600, but they're definitely not what I would call sibilant. Mind you I'm sensitive to the treble area. Still, because of the jump in detail retrieval over the hd600 - not just in the treble mind you, but as a whole - I think they're more fatiguing over time. When I say more detailed I mean you can hear individual instruments better, especially behind vocals. The "mental image" of the instruments is clearer I guess is how I would put it. Am using the A pads and it's being run via a Burson Conductor Virtuoso with sabre dac if it helps.
have the 1770 for a few months now and god i love them. also love how detailt they are for being closed backs.
If it helps anyone else - my opinion: The DT1990 sounds like a perfect mix between HE-400i & HD650. It brings all good features together into one enhanced package. (Own all three and selling 400i & HD650 now). HE-400i are the worst of the bunch to me - overrated. HD650 are awesome and love em but a tad too slow and less soundstage/highs than DT1990. Summary: I'd NEVER recommend HE-400i - I'd recommend HD650 for everyone especially for under $300 as they can be had for half the price of the DT1990. And I recommend DT1990 for everyone who wants the best of the best and has $600 to spend.
Well shit.. I have watched this video and the T1 at least 5 times each. Really trying to decide on which to get. I really enjoy listening to my vinyl records on my hd700's. Movies with the HE-400i's and I play my piano with the hd598's. I really want these Beyer-Dynamics but all I can sample locally is Dt 990's which are okay but they have no place in my current collection. So I want to get these to pair with my jotunheim with phono for my classic vinyl. So the question is... these or the T1? Which one would suit me better for the separation of my classical records? Or is there still a better option?
DT880 600Ω best option if you have nice tube amp
Nürburgring Trials 😄 As a guy from NÜRNBERG (Nuremberg), this made me crack up, thanks for the laugh Z; keep doing what you're doing, really enjoying this review! 🌠
I thought that was rather tasteless.
Eh, to each their own. I think the prosecution of war criminals on a back then unprecedented scale is something to celebrate, not shun.
What's more enjoyable for music listening the Beyerdynamic dt 1990 or the sennheiser hd660s?
1990s
1990s
They sound way too much like my Sennheiser HD-600s to me .
So it is up to your ears the HD-660s would have been my favorite over almost anything except the HD58X exist and they fit that sound signature in my case.
The 1990s are just too boring to me except I really liked the Highs but I have a sub $60 pair of IEMs that have better highs and so the 1990s just don't do it for me .
If they were half the price maybe
Robbie's Audio World They’re not like 600’s.
I have these and the t1. I agree that these are slightly behind but still excellent
These are 400€ permamently on the german amazon. Almost a steal.
vi777x I‘m just scared of the Beyer Peak that fucking rips apart my ears on the DT 990 (250 ohm). I believe him that it‘s better on the DT1990s but my ears seem to be extremely sensitive to this...
@@a.f.j. The 1990 Pro are not as bad in my opionion, I had both. But they are still quite harsh and I think they are not made to be listened to with very high volume like other cans. But just as "Recommendations In Description"
said, they smoothen a bit after a few days/weeks, depending on how much you listen to them on a daily basis
The website explains it as, “experience the track with the balanced pads, and mix and master with the analytical pads”
Which portable dac/amp would you recommend to bring out the true potential of the dt 1990's?
Wonder too..?!
Me too
@@chris-nx1nk depends on. I'm on the search as well. Heresy to keep the analytical aspect. Magni 3 + to add a bit of warm. The topping a50 in the line of the 3+ but smoother. Thats what I could summarize reading a lot and watching z reviews. However I haven tried any. I'm powering with a focusrite clarett and I only have that reference. Imho I would go for something warmer like even a tube (just because my amp is quite neutral, analytical).
I'm listening to Tidal mastered (MQA) tracks using the SMSL m500 DAC with the analytical pads on these headphones. Every old song sounds refreshingly new, and joyful.
Just wanted to share, i'm using sennheiser hd25 for last 10 years and i got used to them just because i'm djing, and i was in shopping for 1990s so i've watched pretty much every clip that existed about them (and yours), just for the comparison on the 1990s on this clip it is unwathchable it's very hard on the "s" when you speak, then i switch to the hd25 and it's like chill wouldn't notice, and that's also in production when i mix and i just render it to test it on the 25s, just make it a little bit not harsh and i'ts just perfect and it's too easy...just wanted to share that i know it's not for comparison but it's new to me, i bought them 2 days ago
Hey Zios, not to seem flattering but your content gives me the best "no-bullshit" reviews on audio peripherals.
I would like to hear your review on a Shure SE846. Many of us would.
Just bought these through Amazon.ca. Z is spot on, I only differ by a couple points. Impressions below:
+Couldn't agree more about the build quality - it feels like I just bought an Audi S7 and it just SCREAMS material perfection to me.
+The band and cups fit like a DREAM out of the box. No fatigue anywhere for hours. I wear glasses too.
+The sound isolation is just the perfect amount for an open-back - it isn't terribly leaky unless you're piping volume through them and it makes for great soundstage (not too much not too little like closed). Spatially I think they still lose out to Senn's though.
+Bass is PERFECT with the balanced pads. You can hear EVERYTHING from something like the latter half of Massive Attack - Angel even compared to my full speakers+subwoofer setup.
-The treble is super detailed on the Tesla 2.0 driver like what balanced armatures did for IEMs, but I'd say they're a little too much by about 2.2 dB at 6K-10K (if I counter it on an equalizer it's perfect).
-Z wasn't kidding about the straight cable - it acts like steel wire rather than a headphone cable LOL.
-I really dislike the sound of the analytical pads - there is more detail but it puts them all front and center like I was sitting in front of a center channel speaker. I think it takes away from enjoying the headphone's inherent flat signature. In other words, with the analytical pads on it feels like I was no longer sitting in an acoustic music room, but now it's more of standing in a $600 phone booth with a premium center speaker and bookshelves - they sound good but it's not really enjoyable. It's counterintuitive to buying the open back - like if this sound is what you're going for, why not get the DT 1770?
Other notes:
-Not sure why they didn't make the cable jack on both sides. Other brands do this at much lower price and don't sound THIS GOOD - maybe that's their reason?
-My impressions are only based off songs in original FLAC version.
Setup:
Running my new DT 1990's through a SMSL M3 because my Essence STX ii died T.T
Zeos, the reason why the DT-1770 is getting bad ratings on Amazon is not because they sound bad. it's because a lot of people are getting their pairs with rattling issues on the right driver and also one guy's pair got broke within a week.
Well my 770dt 32 ohm broke in less than 2 weeks. 0%editing or mixing. Only listening to music without an amp straight from my motherboard. Beyer refused to do anything and asked me 50euros to repair the damaged driver. Lolz
@@usimortis1940 wtf
I know right? I went back to the shop asked for a refund and they refused. Anyways with some pressure they gave me new ones, 80ohm this time, which I have for like 2 years now, daily usage with a good soundcard. So even though the 32 were shit imo, im very happy with my 80, would recommend to everyone as their first headphones for music/gaming.
@@usimortis1940 nice that u like them. Im aint happy with my dt 1770 sadly. They are to neutral and Bassy i miss the Details.
@@vik4130 770dt 80 ohm at 100€ here in Greece, it's a steal. I dont know anything about the 1770 :/
I use Balanced pads, the EQ I use now, tomorrow it may change lol
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Please review the focal elear
Soon enough.
Z Reviews Thanks for the reply. Usually youtube content creators do not reply to the comments. Looking forward for that review. Thinking on getting them (or something on the range). Also would be nice what´s good to power them to get the best of them. Thanks for all the Reviews Zeos, I watch all of them :)
@@ZReviews ONE YEAR LATER
@@NightmareFactory830 another year later
I linked you the nesquik coffee pumper thingy in the video you mentioned it but you never said anything man.
Because I have not bought it yet. I just keep the tab open all the time.
Did Z get the pads mixed up or did I misunderstand him? Aren't the balanced pads the ones with the more holes and has more bass and wouldn't the Analytical pads with less holes be the ones you would master with?
Six years later, that bundle is still there
I also snagged these Beyerdynamics with the bundle because I mean why not? I've been looking to grab a Beyerdynamic headphones for awhile and these seem to be their best so far. I also don't have true neutral headphones, the HD650s are close but still warm.
Solved, got everything I asked for in the bundle. Also note, the aftermarket AKG cables, I have not been able to remove the cable since I plugged it in. Cannot pull it out, I have no idea why. Push the button and pull as hard as I dare, and I cannot remove the cable, so it is now permanently attached lol.
lol that cable does the same thing on my AKGs. Just gently wiggle it around while pulling and it'll come right out.
Looking for a set of closed cans to call home so I would love to see you get your hands on the 1770's.
These or the Sennheiser 660s? Mostly used for listening to classical music paired with a Schiit Magni 2 and Modi 2.
If its for classical music go for the dt 1990s, they have bettter highs. The Sennheiser are warmer
Same here, but mosly gaming and music, want to pair with dx3, any ideas?
Love Beyers,built like a tank,really comfortable,velour earpads,I have the dt 990 pros,just love em,they take a while for your ears to adjust but once they do,they sound amazing,give em time,why alot of people can’t get into 70’s prog rock,they listen to an album once and don’t give it time.
Beyer’s are the 70’s prog rock,jazz rock headphones,have that vintage look of old gear of that era,best.
I would love these.
My first were the 880 Pros before I switched to the HD600s I use now. These things look beautiful, regardless of how they sound. I mean I can't really afford them but... I want...
*do it*
@Immortal Oh man, what a journey I've been on the last 3 years. Turns out the 600s suck. I got educated. 1990s are by far the best dynamic driver headphones you can buy anywhere in this price range. 880s are just flat out better than 600s. If you really want 600s just get 598s and save the money. Veiled, muddy, no soundstage. Horrible for classical music.
@Immortal First off, only ever use the Analytical (A) pads. The Balanced (B) pads just bloat the bass. As far as sound, 1990s are essentially as flat as dynamics get, with a very slight peak in the highs that otherwise wouldn't be an issue except a lot of headphones have a dip in that area, so a lot of media sounds a little harsh in that range on 1990s. I remedy this by listening to music with better masters and using a tube amp, on occasion. It's not nearly as bad as people say though. They're very fast for dynamics as well. Soundstage is nice and wide but not insanely accurate. Basically, they do everything well but nothing incredible. They're my dailies and my mixing cans. I haven't heard T1s but as I understand they're very similar.
I watch this from Germany and his german jokes are so good xD
I'll repeat myself to please re-do the recording with different song. Or edit the ones they killed.
How does this compare to the t1 gen 1 and gen 2?
Bob The Badger This is much more fun
The cable HATES being straight, but it's a magical German cable with no microphonics.
Amazing headphones, I own two pairs, however, I think the DT-990 is almost every bit as good.
1st- ZEOS GOT IT "RIGHT"-THEY'RE AWESOME! I FOUND A BUNDLE WITH THE BEYERDYNAMIC A20 AMP AND THE DT1990's FOR $699. NOT THE $599 BUNDLE WITH THE FIIO A5. LOOK CLOSE AND FIND THE NO-BRAINER OF 2017! I own it and bought it- The low end and mids are fantastic. The cans are balanced!!!
Feeding the 1990's with an Astell Kern ak100ll via digital 3.5mm optical out and a Theta CD Transport into a Cary Audio DAC w high end ic’s and pc’s to either a Woo Audio WA3 and a WA6 amps.Using balanced pads for a lil more bottom end grunt. Low end sounds full and natural like bass guitar should-(think Fender P- Bass and Ampeg amplification. Super happy....FINALLY!!! I'm done looking for a great pair of open backs! Keepers for sure!!!
i enjoy having neutral headphones would you say its worth it over the hd 650
Z it is the other way around. I have these headphones and the ear-pads with the four holes are for analytical (More neutral sound). The other ear-pads with more holes (the ones you didn't put on the headphones) provide a slight bass boost (may be below 60 or 70 Hz). I can confirm that that is true. It is also stated in the manual. Anyways, thanks to you I bought these headphones. I hope they will help me a lot when mixing and mastering.
Cant wait for Z to put his hands on the Philips X2HR.
I heard the Jet Set Radio garage music and I AM SUBBED SO HARD BB
please help. i ve cut down my options to four headsets for mixing and mastering : the hd 650, the dt 1990, the monolith 1060, and the final sonorus III. I can´t make my mind on which one to buy.
regarding sound quality and clarity
@@sardinaoraculo7814 monolith 1060 and 650 are a good bit warmer and smoother than the 1990, for clarity definitely the 1990 and the bass on the 1990 is much better than on the other two cans, in my opinion. But beware, the 1990 Pro can be a lot harsher at times
I had the Shures 1540 and they were really well built and super comfortable, but they sounded really boring like you said. Nothing wrong or bad but not exciting. The Audio Technica ATH M70x sounded a lot better and were almost as comfortable. I end up returning the Shure even thought I got them really cheap (less than $300 usd).
Hi, could i please ask anyone on here for recommendations on a decent amp for these dt1990's ? I've seen so many reviews and looked at so many headphone amps that my head is spinning. I don't want to go to extremes in price, i just want to run them efficiently without going over the top as i know after a certain price point the benefits are tiny. I've seen Graham Slee, Violectric/Lake people, Audio Fidelity, Feliks and many more but I'm just getting more lost. Any help would be appreciated 👍
FiiO BTR5. Literally.
These vs HD660s for reference monitoring? Not music mastering really, or much much less, more video and mainly voice editing? Sorry for the odd question, trying to be specific, but may come off as wtf is this guy talking about.
Neither.
I own 660(owned and sold).600 ,DT1770pro, 1990pro. Normal day prefer ADAM a3x and its larger brothers in studio. The one that sounds the closest to my ADAMs is still the HD600. 660's mids is not as accurate due to people who are not in the pro field yet keep asking senns for a different sound. They really did nail it with the 600 years ago. But too many people could not appreciate and force the wrong way with 650 and etc. The 600 sounds just like my ADAM in the room with a little less due to being a headphone. however 660,650 all have some werid bump in parts that will mess with my mix.660s mids is much more colored than 600. 650 bumps low mids and mid bass which basically will make all you mix thinner and never translate to all system.
The new DT series are good headphones. but only that. I love my DT1770/1990pros to death. due to me being a huge sucker for excitement, but just as headphones. They have some of the best highs and lows in this band of range. Sub bass is second to none. Even many company's $2000 flagships cant do sub bass like the DT series does. But that is obviously gonna make your mix's sub bass sounds lighter in final product. Same stories goes with highs. Treble on these phones are HOT. They benefit and have energy, wide sounds, detailed layer of depth(the more upfront or pushed back sounds) and placements of instrument within the hard paned L 100% to R 100%. But the excited highs, while mixing and mastering, will over compensate and make your mix sounds duller and not translate again due to the highs being hotter on these phones.
I still love these DT series phones to death. But the purpose is more about enjoying music on these. When I try to dial a guitar tone but cannot use my monitor at late night, I'd still trust my HD600 more. But then again those aren't good in sub bass so I pull out the DT series to check for unwanted lows to get cleaner. But in daytime I'd still be with my studio monitors most of the time. coz with those you worry nothing about mids and soundstage.
gonna review the nightowls?
yesir
Man, these headphones are the best thing i ever heard. Its like listening to a whole other track if you put them on.
How is this even possible, that bass and everything, sound so so great and natural. Love it!
DT1990 or HD 660s? I just bought the HD 660s because I knew I wouldn't be disappointing for an all around good headphone for use with everything. Gaming, music, media watching cetera cetera
Hey man love your reviews. I've been debating on these or the LCD-X or the LCD-MX4. Obviously MX4 is like... I have to make a serious decision lol. But I'm thinking the MX4 or the X is the move. My friend preaches these beyerdynamic ones. What do you think now that you've reviewed a bunch of headphones? Mixing and mastering btw.
Would you recommend the DT1990 or AD2000x for gaming? Or is there any other ideal headohone you recommend? Please help!!
Hey what's up fella
I just found some 1980's beyerdynamics in my dads basement
Soooooooo yeah
Im really lucky guess
Nice. I wish I had beyer beyerdynamics. Hopefully soon
These or the Tygr 300 r? I've read online that they even tough they are much cheaper come pretty close to the 1990 Pro.
DT1990 or AKG 712 pro?
It's finally here yay! Do you have the 1060's in yet Z?
Which leaves me with the question: DT1990 PRO or Monoprice Monolith m1016?
I have the DT990 Pro 250 Ohm version and the 600 Ohm versions. At some point they both started to crackle on high bass.
Would that likely still be the case if I upgrade to a DT 1990? I also have the Sennheiser 660s and the T1 2nd Gen in mind. Or should I be looking at something else altogether?
My budget is $1000.
Oh…and I’m buying this primarily for action and sci-fi movies.
Hey Z, I'm thinking of buying a pair of AKG and I've narrowed it down to 2 pairs: AKG K7xx's & K712's. I've seen both reviews but I'm still confused about which one is better (or what the difference is).
Thanks,
The Eleventeenth Siege
Alright, thanks!
I thought the balanced pads (more holes) added more bass and the analytical was more neutral. Weird that Z says the opposite.
hey z reviews - i have been using a pair of DT990's with a fiio e10k for a while now. my mom has a hearing problem and i am trying to find a nice pair of bassy headphones for her like these 990's, but i was wondering if these 1990's would be better for her. would also need a good amp to go with it. i have an unlimited budget for this. was also wondering how these 1990's compare to something like the HD800s? thanks!!!
Beyer prices in america seems to be completely fucking up, here in Europe these usually goes for $400-450. So for Euro prices the bundle makes more sense price wise, the collection of random shit still doesn't make sense.
Have the dt990/600 driven by a little dot mkiii with tubes for soundstage. Mainly use them for gaming / footsteps, but also like listening to music. I edit television professionally, so I'd also use for scoring / sound design. Would these be enough of an upgrade to my existing setup to warrant the price?
In 2019 is there anything better at this price range?
I haven’t heard these, but I have heard the Sendy Aiva’s and I’d guess they’re better based on what I heard.
I personally prefer the Sennheiser HD 660S, but that comes down to preference I suppose. Also I've heard the Hifiman Sundara is very good.
Is a JDS OL DAC + JSD ATOM AMP good enough to power these well?
I power my pair with Oppo HA-2 SE and they sound great.
i like the pads that bring down 8k frequency, basically perfect then. Flat with bass and not sharp highs, about flat. Hi res like hi end planars, but with bass. The only bassy planar I know of is 100x their price lol.
Hello i have a question... I have a pair of AK T1P they Seem Rare Cant find any real reviews on them 32o tesla driver if anyone has any information on what you think is better for Music/gaming the DT1990 or the AK T1P These were given to me by my Father.
I just had these BeyerDynamic hp delivered this week. I had auditioned the 1990 in Hamburg last year.
They had the balanced pads on them, so I listened with them for 2 days, then switched to the Analytical pads.
The balanced seem to have a bit more bass. The analytical seem to be more open/airy. I think the soundstage is a bit wider with the analytical pads.
And certainly more comfortable than my Oppo PM-3.
I've had them connected to the Oppo 105d and the Parasound P7 pre-amp, if any difference, I don't hear it.
I have not tried them straight off the Mac mini yet.
These DT 1990 are worth every penny. Actually lower price on amazon than priced in Germany. $599 to €599($700).
DT1990 or the M560 which is your preference?
If I am mixing. 1990. If I am feeling frisky.. 560
Well im the frisky type so i guess ive saved money here, just need to get them delivered to England now thx
Colonel Basic - bullocks! Save up n buy the 1990's- they'll blow the 560's away
Actually, I own both, and both see a lot of use
The 560 is just a ton of fun, though the 1990 is clearly “technically” better
I still use my 560 a ton purely because they’re so fun and intense
Amiron home!
so when are you going to review the Monoprice M1060, we're all patiently waiting.
peace!!!
Can I wear them for a day... FUCK.. Also I am in no rush if they are sold out everywhere. I hate reviewing things that have disappeared from existence.
Z Reviews They will reappear soon enough.
Unless 1060 are on par with 600 / X2 or better.I don't give a s***t.
the problem with M1060 as I suspected, is suffering from quality control. When an item is this cheap that's what happens. In the head-fi forum many are replacing their cans due to crack in the wood ring and wire connection issues. Anyway, my akg k712pro is sounding so amazing these days that I couldn't care less for the M1060, and I doubt the m1060 will sound any better. Besides, I can't invest on a headphone prone to breaking over a short period of time.
Truth be told,huge improvement usually means about 15-20% improvement with 3X the cost in Hp game.
Had 598 was very happy with it,bought X2 still happy with it.Auditioned Omni,price tag alone made me vomit.
After all this time HPs that caught my attention are M1060 and HE1.
M1060 does not look like they are built to last.And the cable is the worst part of it.
5 mins in haven't heard a single useful bit of info yet
Which one would you prefer between neumann ndh 30 and dt 1990 pro? I wonder what is your opinion After 6 years
Just ordered a pair from Thomann for $389 USD. Excited to be getting them, been a fan of Beyer for many years.
I am getting motion sickness from this vid
:D
Should I get these or the lcd-x? I'll use between gaming ,music, and movies
I'm considering upgrading from my DT-880 to these, but is it worth it? Somebody on an audiophile server told me he's heard many times that a lot of people say the DT-880's are better.
I knew I made the right decision on buying these after three minutes of listening. The 990 has too much treble for me, and these do not if you are worrying. Natural AF and addicting. Amazing for $600. I'm with Z on the analytical pads, very comfortable. Glad to be back on team Beyer.
Keith Morrison is it good gaming like CSGO?
I mean any old headphones with decent soundstage and imaging will be good for cs go. With that being said, yes they are good for cs go, but they really shine in games like battlegrounds where you need pinpoint positioning. Honestly, these do get a bit uncomfortable after a four hours or so on the top of my head, but gaming and music sounds so damn good I don't care. If you only need headphones for cs go these are way overkill. Keep in mind, I don't think you can do a mod mic or something like that with these. You would need an external mic of some sort.
Makoro Gaming ^
i prefer the stock ones for some reason, it adds a little more bass and coming from a MMX300 i like it ^^
Was valways looking for a proper headphones for battlegrounds. Just wondering on a scale of 1-10, how good are these cans at pinpoint positioning? Like will this be able to give u the sense of direction whether the opponent is upstairs or in the same room or even just outside your house kinda accuracy? OR is it even better than what i asked for ?
Just bought these with a Jotunheim/DAC. It's... just... nice.
what do you mean? I was thinking on getting the Jotunheim for these...
jagrblood How is the Bass in the DT 1990, it doesn't lack of bass? For example when you listen EDM... i’m a basshead do you think that for that reason I would be disappointed?
@@heebbi Bass is extremly clear and punchy and there is enough imao. Also they go really deep into the subbass, however it's no subwoofer, but you can always EQ a bit to your likings, Tesla Drivers respond very nicely to EQ changes.
How is the imaging for shooters on these? I'm really interested in replacing my broken k7xx's but don't want to give up the actual perfect imaging since I mainly play shooters when I game.
I just resend a DT-990 and a K712.
The imagery was already much better on the DT-990 compared to the K712.
The DT-1990 is a version of the DT-990 of a higher range so I think we can say that the DT-1990 has a much better imaging than the KXX which itself a version of the K712 with less bass.
Very good. The T1.2's are slightly better, but the 1990s are phenomenal for gaming imo. Though the only other cans I've compared them against other than my T1.2's, are my Sennheiser HD700, HD660S and Focal Elegia's
@@junkiexl86 Do you feel like the 1990s are better for competitive gaming than the HD660s?
@@robertlysebo Oh yea, by a mile. All the 600 series Senns are poor gaming cans. They're vocal-heavy music specialists and that's about it.
bro I love this review just for the part:
you may annoy people... but who cares you own 1990s 😹
Amazon has these listed for $441-a price too good to resist. Let’s see if they’re as good as this review suggests...
What DAC and amp should I buy to use these with my pc?
would like to know too
HIGH LION i plan on buying them too and i tend to order the schiit magni 3 (amp) and the schiit modi 2 (dac) because of their ridiculous sound quality regarding the price, didnt try it out myself though
Fosetx hpa4bl
-Bundle: $350
-Only 1990: $599
H O W ???
just scammers on amazon.
The bundle scam
They invalidate the warranty and may contain B-stock or used headphones.
If I had to have one or the other (price doesn't matter)
These or the HD600?
Just ordered mine.. what did you get ?
1990's without a doubt. HD 600s don't stand a chance against them.
Hey zeos I know you dont do IEM's too often. But I am looking for a pair to use at work. Any suggestions in the 100-150 dollar range?
1more Triple drivers or the Meze that won the last shootout.
I have K712 and iam thinking about buying the dt-1990 for 430€ right now. Do you think they are an Upgrade for Mixing and Mastering?
I just ordered Darkvoice from Massdrop and planning on upgrading my DT990 pro-250ohm to DT990 600ohm or DT1990.
Which are better and worth it?
can i use my focusrite 214 audio interface for these. or do they need more power. thanks
5:31 this was a pretty analytical orgasm , but I still appreciate it.
Great review, as always, & I take the occasion to remind the pairs I'd be willing to see reviewed as well :
- Status audio HD2 (still my only pair, still enjoying them, it's been a whole year now)
- B&O H9 that just came out
- Focal Listen, ELEAR & Utopia (lol)
- Prosodia Bora (cheaper) & Zephyr (analytical, ideal for studio monitoring/production/mastering), very serious engineering, they master Controled & progressive directivity, wider sweet spot, stereoscopic imaging & dynamic... For those I think I can help as I know them personally.
- portable speakers like JBL Charge 2+, 3, Extreme, B&O M5... Don't know if you plan to do such a serie, if so it would be great & diversify even more
Anyway, I'm looking forward to becoming a billionaire so that I can get all this shit, & broadcat weird orgasms as well!
As an owner of B&O H6 and H8, and tried the H9... STAY AWAY.
JBL bluetooth speakers are only worth it sound-wise at 50% off, or better.
What about 990's ? DT 990 600 ohms vs DT 1990 250 ohms ? Music and gaming, which is better ?
Damn.. guess I'll add these to my watch list.
What would you say are the best "analytical", "balanced", "neutral" headphones? (taking a jab at the naming of the two ear pad pairs..) for no higher than about this price range?
I have the HE400i, K712 Pro, X2, TH-x00 Purpleheart and eyeing the HD 650/6xx and Ether Flow.. but I want a pair of very analytical, accurate detailed headphones in my collection.
These seem like they might be them?
Flow C's. A must own.
Z Reviews flow c over the open version?
they are 433 Euros in Germany
Pretty sure Zeo sold sand to the desert once upon a time!!
There has been a few of these crazy bundles on headphones lately. I got some Shure 215s with an A1 amp and 32 gb card for 103$ - the shures are like 95 on their own.
Germany knows their headphones. I wouldnt get anything but German-made.