The Lone Ranger - How to Build the Biggest Flop of All Time | Anatomy Of A Failure
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- 2013's Disney summer blockbuster The Lone Ranger was directed by Gore Verbinski and starred Jack Sparrow himself Johnny Depp, and they clearly tried to recapture the success they found with Pirates of the Caribbean. Unfortunately, for some reason this time it didn't work and The Lone Ranger ended up becoming the biggest box office bomb of all time, costing Mickey Mouse over 200 million dollars of lost cash. One of the biggest reasons for this is that they seemed to have forgotten the core qualities you need to keep in mind when making a massive blockbuster meant for all general audiences. In today's Anatomy of a Failure, let's see what those qualities are in order to see where The Lone Ranger went wrong. Here's how to build a box office flop.
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The Lone Ranger (2013)
The Lone Ranger rides again with this big-budget Walt Disney Pictures production starring Johnny Depp as Tonto and Armie Hammer as the famed gunman. The story centers on Tonto's recollection of the adventures that found lawman John Reid transformed into The Lone Ranger, legendary hero of the Old West. Gore Verbinski everything wrong with the Lone Ranger cinemasins honest trailer lone ranger watch full movie online free 4k hd clip lone ranger 2 biggest box office flops movie flop johnny depp amber heard directs from a script by Justin Haythe, Ted Elliott, and Terry Rossio.
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Captain America: Civil War (2016)
In this superhero epic, the denizens of the Marvel Universe are forced to pick sides when Captain America (Chris Evans) and Iron Man (Robert Downey Jr.) come to blows over ideological differences. After a mission involving a new Avengers squad led by Cap ends with several civilian casualties in Lagos, the team are asked to sign an agreement that would force them to take orders from a United Nations panel. Tony Stark (aka Iron Man) pressures Cap to accept this new arrangement, in part because he feels deeply guilty about his own past recklessness; Captain America, however, fears that the Avengers will only be corrupted by bureaucracy. Their disagreement eventually escalates into all-out war when Cap's old friend Bucky Barnes (Sebastian Stan), now a brainwashed assassin known as the Winter Soldier, reenters the picture. Captain America: Civil War brings back former Avengers characters such as Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson), Hawkeye (Jeremy Renner), Scarlet Witch (Elizabeth Olsen), War Machine (Don Cheadle), Falcon (Anthony Mackie), and Vision (Paul Bettany); it also drags into the fray low-rent superhero Ant-Man (Paul Rudd), and introduces both the powerful African prince Black Panther (Chadwick Boseman) and a new, younger incarnation of Spider-Man (Tom Holland). Directed by Anthony and Joe Russo.
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Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
Captain Jack Sparrow (Johnny Depp) returns to the screen for another round of supernatural adventures on the high seas in this spirited sequel to the 2003 Disney hit, which re-teams original director Gore Verbinski with original screenwriters Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio. As Will (Orlando Bloom) and Elizabeth (Keira Knightley) prepare to exchange vows at the altar, their wedding plans hit rough waters with the arrival of sea-bound scallywag Jack Sparrow. It seems that Sparrow owes a substantial blood debt to half-octopus sea captain Davy Jones (Bill Nighy), and that the only way for the flamboyant sea rover to elude the wrath of his otherworldly pursuer is to seek the aid of mysterious and powerful voodoo priestess Tia Dalma (Naomie Harris), whose ability to resurrect the dead and gaze into the future may provide just the advantage needed to avoid a waterlogged fate in the locker of his legendary nemesis. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
I thought that this was a great movie, didn't know it flopped until now.
It was technically a flop, I guess - but it made a small amount of money. Certainly didn't lose any - and isn't remotely close to be 'the biggest flop of all time'.
@@simonjohnston9488 it lost $160 million which makes it one of the greatest flops ever.
Simon Johnston Alongside with John Carter, it is. To judge how a film did at the box office, you have to take into account not just the costs of the production itself, but distribution, marketing, etc. To break even, you roughly have to double the production cost of the film, and this wasn’t a cheap one.
It is the biggest flop of all time because the production company lost 160-200 millions with it, and most films aren’t even capable of flopping that hard because they usually cost less than that (ergo, if nobody went to watch them, zero, even then they wouldn’t be flopping this hard). I don’t think this is an awful movie (it has big flaws, though, like the ones mentioned in the video. I agree with those), but sadly numbers don’t lie. What we have here is a meh / decent film, that happens to be the biggest flop in the history of cinema 😕
Same hahaha
Probably because everyone watched it illegally and without paying. 😂😂😂😂🙈😛😛😛
tbh this movie was pretty enjoyable, way better than the recent netflix's ''most horrifying'' ''most watched'' shitty originals and comedies
I agree. Its been on the telly twice this year so far. I knew the Lone Ranger character wasn't going to be a hit with generation raised on super hero movies but didn't think it deserved to be a flop, but when the movie costs over $200m the bar for success is so much higher.. I actually enjoy the movie
I dont understand with netflix. On tv series, they killed it. I used to watch superhero series such as arrow, flash, and so on. Then i watch netflix daredevil and then punisher. They beat the shit of cw tv, the owner of arrow series. Netflix do the best company can do. About 10 episode per season, dont have too many subplot, interesting cinematography.
I dont know why they cant translate it to their movie division.
Here's the difference between those Netflix movies and The Lone Ranger: about $365 million dollars. Those Netflix movies only cost about $10 million dollars AT MOST to make, and will generally make that money back or more. The Lone Ranger lost $245 million dollars. And yes, the movie is pure shit. Seriously, people have had their entire families murdered for A LOT less the $245 million dollars.
@@DeadlyDanDaMan just an opinion you have there. I love that movie and will continue to watch it whenever I feel like it.
@@DeadlyDanDaMan It still isn't a waste of money since people enjoyed it
Till the day I die, I will defend this movie.
My brother liked this so much and played it repetitively so that I actually hate it. It's my fucking frozen...
May that day come soon.
@@MAGAMAN excuse me? What kind of a fucking reply is that?
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@@MAGAMAN wishing death upon someone just because of their opinion makes you look psychotic
let's be honest though, it is extremely impressive that the crew actually built an entire railway loop and made working steam locomotives. Like isn't that such a cool thing to think about that the trains are real and feel alive.
The fucking dedication.
The steam locomotives were actually hollow with steam rigs inside of them, but they still 'ran', which in itself is impressive af.
Man. This movie looks like a small mistake compared to Cats 2019.
We all knew cats was going to be trash this movie had potential tho
Or the Rise of Skywalker
Or Mars Needs Moms.
>_>
Compare to Cats even The Room is a masterpiece :)
@@mav_in_space The Room IS a masterpiece compared to anything.
_"Movies made for "everybody" are actually made for nobody in particular."_
Roger Ebert, Spirited away review
or the full paragraph,
_"Miyazaki says he made the film specifically for 10-year-old girls. That is why it plays so powerfully for adult viewers. Movies made for "everybody" are actually made for nobody in particular. Movies about specific characters in a detailed world are spellbinding because they make no attempt to cater to us; they are defiantly, triumphantly, themselves. "_
Roger Ebert was a 10/10 human and this is a great example
Too bad this critic doesn't want that.
To add to that, I genuinely believe that Tolkien wrote The Lord of the Rings for himself and himself alone. The rest, I think, speaks for itself.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 If i'm remember it correctly, Tolkien wrote Lord of the Ring as Myths/Folklore for british people, with Hobbits as younger britainian in mind.
He noted that britain, other than king arthur legend is sorely lacking in folklore/mythos compared to European countries such as Greek.
Example of a movie that tried to be for everybody, and wound up being for nobody: *Terminator Genisys*
Older fans were alienated by all the weird new characters and bizarre plot elements, and newer fans couldn't appreciate all the fanservice callbacks to the originals.
When I first watched "The Lone Ranger" back in 2013 I loved it so much. I revisited it again a couple of days ago and I still enjoy, despite noticing its flaws. But, to be honest, I'm still kinda angry how this movie could've been a masterpiece if it had a better (A LOT BETTER) script, because the visuals, action and even most of the acting is pretty great. Darn shame...
:(
I loved everything about this movie, including the lego sets
You brought up a memory I didn’t know I had
This movie had Bitchin Lego sets man.
I had all of the Lego sets, this was like my favorite movie
“Good shot”
“That was supposed to be a warning shot”
“In that case, not so good”
See? See??!!! This movie was actually funny!
These lines may not be funny as is but the way they were delivered by the actors made it funny.
This explains his integrity really as questioned by Filmento. He accidentally killed them.
Searched for this in the comments
@@swarajkanr Yeah, I really didn't understand why he brought that up. It was clearly established as unintentional, and Filmento even said "accidentally". Yeah, warning shots are stupid, but this is a guy with no combat experience, no training, someone who didn't even use guns until a few days prior. A warning shot is absolutely something he would think was a good idea
The thing is, it's really hard to make a "Blockbuster Western." Audiences don't really go into a Western looking for massive, expensive action setpieces - they want interesting characters, a compelling story, a few gunfights, and people riding horses through epic scenery. I mean a beloved western like The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly actually has a pretty impressive Civil War battle toward the end, but it's not why people love the movie, they love it for the characters, the cinematography, the score, the general atmosphere...
Also hero stories/charecters aswell as antihero's and villains seem central to western type stories.
The Legend of the Lone Ranger from the early 80s is much better. A little hokey, but still a good movie with better drama and characters than this slog.
I watched a Korean + Western movie, the good the bad and the bizarre (놈놈놈) but set in WW2 phase Manchuria. Extremely interesting movie.
Speak for yourself my dude. Not all of us "people"
See also: Tombstone, Unforgiven, Lonesome Dove, etc
i literally watched this movie multiple times when i was little i don’t understand why people don’t like it😭
That’s what I’m saying I loved this movie as a kid I haven’t watched it since but when I was little this move was amazing
same bro, this movie was literally my favorite when it came out
Mulan: "Hold my beer"
God it was so terrible
@@butterypigeons1089 Bad and terrible.
Terribad
Disney: Hold my keg.
I watched just the trailer and the critics review, Never watched and never will.
Good thing I have not watched the remake Because the OG will be the only one I'll ever coincide as being Mulan
It's a shame this did so poorly. I actually liked this movie and wanted to see more of it haha, might not be many who think that though
I agree, personally I really enjoyed i. Thought it was a fun movie. loved the train scene near the end
Same, it was one of my favorite movies growing up.
I enjoyed it too and was confuse it didn't work in the box office
I actually enjoyed it too.
I love it and I'm happy they made it the way it was made
I adore this movie. It’s criminally underrated
I feel the same way for the King Arthur film that came out a few years back. They spent like 200 million on it and ended up getting like 20 million from the box office.
I watched this movie when I was 10 when it first came out and I still fuckin love it. Didn’t know it flopped until now
@@2kmichaeljordan438 same. It's super good, I don't know what people's problems with it are though. The music was amazing, the story was great, the acting was wonderful. I mean what is there not to love. It's just Pirates of the Caribbean in the wild west, who wouldn't love that?! lol
Also, I love your name xD
@@littlehollow it has Johnny Depp in it what else do you need lol
Because criminals made it
This movie had the greatest train chase of all time
Either this or The Legend of Zorro.
But could you ride a horse through a train carriage? I feel like the roof wouldn’t be tall enough.
@@NCC1371 thats because its a movie, movies dont make sense and they shoudn't
@@IEatPrimeSong Wrong. Some movies depending on the genre and tone they pick and depending on what they want to be can and should be coherent or make sense. It's not because it's a movie that it should always be d*mb and treat the audience like fools. Which is why this movie failed...it couldn't decide what it was, so audiences weren't interested.
The scene where the guy eats the heart screwed me up as a kid
This needs to be mentioned more prominently - one simply fact that also tanked the movie is that it has a bad guy eating Someone a heart as a scene...
That does not work in an often funny blockbuster movie
Rango is a far better western film that's directed by Gore Verbinski.
The superior example by far, though funny enough the same screenwriter (John Logan) did both movies.
Rango is also a better version of Shark Tale.
Which also starred Johnny Depp
They were ridding the Pirates of the Caribbean wave, so they thought they could replicate the success. Unfortunately, they didn't pay any attention to the script.
Which coincidentally also starred Johnny Depp.
Personally for me, the biggest problem is Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow as Tonto.
Peter Frank especially because it’s more like Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow from Dead Men Tell no Tales as Tonto
@@michaellynch8021 Yeah... 😅
A complete disgrace to Jay Silverheels. He’s probably rolling over in his grave.
Peter Frank and Movie Reviewer
Agreed..I just kept seeing Jack Sparrow pretending to be a Native.
Well this „waiting for the train“ is a classic western-movie-thing
Another classic western movie thing is that they were made on small budget and had a moderate sized audience that was okay with that.
@@arandombard1197 yeah, may be not the thing to expect from Disney
this was the last movie i got to see with my grandparents in theatre before they both died. I like it for that lone... reason.
Westerns are generally slow films, even the great ones. The main plot of 'The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly' doesn't kick in for a good 30 minutes. I think audiences are just tired of Johnny Depp doing cosplay.
I though I was the only one that though that.👍🏻
nope, we all want more johnny
You think the good the bad the ugly is slow. Leone's next film "Once Upon a Time in the west opens with 3 men taking over a train station and then they wait for 10 whole minutes doing nothing to progress the plot. The scope of the plot isn't fully revealed until 1 hour into the film. Possibly the slowest movie I've ever seen. But it is fantastic
@Andrew Jackson no it doesnt.
I agree
The Lone Ranger is like a high-quality steak from a high-end restaurant, but after it was done another chef came in and poured chocolate sauce over it: both those things are tasty in their own right but together they end up messy and mismatched
From what was described, I wouldn't give it that. It is like someone that thought an old fashioned apple pie would go well with ketchup for some reason, but used wormy apples and and positively awful ketchup.
My point is, modern movie making and The Lone Ranger each have strong points and weak points, but they don't go together well, not without violating what makes each what it really is. Yet, this movie took the worst of both rather than the best of both when even taking the strongpoints may not have worked out (not without some serious creativity anyway).
It took the old fashioned ideas of making Native Americans look foolish and superstitious with newer "all white people are ebil" ideas, in the same scene even it seems ("I see now you are not wendigo, just another white man" (congratulations, you just thoroughly irritated both sides of that equation)). While granted this is a bit of a stretch, I offer it to illustrate the more subtle issues. For a more visual example, it combines over-the-top markings common in the original with more sharp camera work, which hits a certain uncanny valley. My apologies as I don't know terms here, but I hope you can see what I am talking about. As far as pacing, well the video covers that pretty directly. Older films were often far more slow paced than anything now, and while either can be good, the made the slow boring and the fast confusing which is by far the most common complaint about both. If the slow was thoughtful and the fast exciting, that would be perfect.
The Lone Ranger explained with food
Chocolate on steak is a very acquired taste, I've cooked it before personally and it was an explosion of craziness. As long as you know what you're doing you can make any dish taste better than any five-star establishment.
Well, he didn’t actually mean to kill the two men in the beginning and even if he did, killing two guys with weapons who are willing to kill you at the first sign of hesitation is a lot different from killing someone who’s completely at your mercy because he killed your brother.
He's making the point that the actors are being led by the nose by each writer. Obviously the commissioner had no control over how the men died, but the aspect of how they were killed relies on the whole mystic spirit walker thing that put it in motion
It's not that character's fault that he was written into an arc that bounces between themes. At the same time he WASNT written to indicate of conflict of soul for being a murderer
In fact its during the "I'm not a savage" scene where he throws down his mask, symbolic that he doesn't believe in the spiritual aspect of what he's been doing. If this is true, then by now he should have to answer for the change of course because it's been established that he believes men should be tried and punished via sentencing
They don't want to write those scenes for the sake of realism, they want to keep the train rolling so the audience gets their playful action scenes in the end. The point is that the character is being pulled by the directors like stretch armstrong to the point where any established identity or motives becomes nonsensical. We shouldn't care about themes because the film doesn't give us a reason to care, or at least is too whimsical to make caring pay off
Just sit back and enjoy this silly adventure that we spent 200 million dollars on- to their credit there's not a lot of risk on our end in doing so
@@ramblincapuchin9075 I think the forfeiting of the mask scene still works because he's running away from something that is true. He can't escape it. It isn't meant to be a victorious reclaiming of his morality. Like Butch says, "You're like me." And that's true. Ultimately, he is like Butch.
The deaths of those two men are not at contrast with the theme, because the entire character is never in control from the moment he is revived.
He may want to spare the lives of criminals. He may want to be on the side of the law. He may want to not believe in the spirituality of himself.
But what he wants is against what is real.
He killed and will kill again, because the law can't be worked within. He has to be an outlaw.
He's not just the Lone Ranger because he was the only Ranger left alive.
It's because he is the only ranger who operates by those rules.
That's one of the reasons why he must wear the mask. Much like the comanches, he's a ghost. A dead man. Something that isn't supposed to exist as long as "progress" is around.
And like Tonto says, "It's better to stay that way."
"In many ways the final product here feels very much like watching The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi in the same movie."
Isn't that exactly what The Rise of Skywalker became? :)
At least Lone Ranger is watchable. Lol
Nah. TROS got fucked over by issues outside the creators’ control.
I've always felt like The Lone Ranger is a movie everyone's heard about but no one went to see. Including me.
X-Men Dark Phoenix joins that club
Wreck it Ralph 2
Well it’s on Disney + which is how I saw it
Similar to Avatar, except everyone DID go to see it but nobody remembers it
I had never heard about this movie before this video
They paid over 100 million in marketing and I just heard of this movie.
On a youtube channel
Today
let face it... 100 million don't help.... you see that and just don't care... since it was for very old people but people who go to moive for this kind of movie is young people... so what the hell are they thingk?
So 100 mil on marketing. 100 mil on Johnny Depp. The rest went into paying the rest of the cast of crew and production of the film. Sounds legit to me.
@@omegasupreme5527 movies are so bad today why do they sink so much money into them if they're going to bomb?
@@campkira What about Lord of the Rings?
I think they just paid Subway to slap Tanto on their walls and make crappy Lone Ranger themed subs for a few weeks and call it a day. That will bring in movie goers!
It’s so upsetting that this movie flopped, I thought it was a lot of fun
I watched this movie on cable tv at like 3am with my dad one time, and we had an Amazing time. Every time it came back after a commercial break, we thought the commercials must have been playing over the movie (which would obviously never happen) because we had no idea what was happening.
It was amazing. We were laughing our asses off at this movie. The plane confusion and dumb action made it so funny. We just asked like "what the hell is going on?" Out loud and then laughed so many times.
I love this movie and I only love it because of that memory and the action sequence at the end.
Hey, Filmento, how about giving us an in-depth analysis about why John Carter flopped? That would be a really interesting video, I think.
The movie was good. Disney just did a terrible job of marketing it. Calling it just 'John Carter' didn't help since that's the blandest name ever for a sci-fi epic.
galactica1981 true
@@fattiger6957 hell, the book's title (John Carter of Mars) would have been better for marketing because it at least sounds like a sci-fi movie.
@@fattiger6957 I remember when that was anounced, the name sounded to me like a rom-com or a drama. When I saw the posters I was utterly confused, and that made me lose all interest in the movie. If they called it John carter of Mars, that would've instantly told me it was sci-fi and maybe I would decide to go and watch it. So, that's how a name can kill a movie I guess.
John Carter flopped because Disney got cold feet. Faced with a massively expensive film that was way over budget, the suits decided to cut their losses by not properly supporting/marketing it.
Let's take a character famous for being a capable gunfighter...and make him useless and afraid of guns.
Makes sense...
@laz kar Like the Batman Begins for the Lone Ranger. :D
@laz kar I think there was such a scene during the climax. Him taking a shot at the bad guy who wants to kill Tonto at the other train "I am the spirit [something]. I can't miss."
Well it's meant to be a prequel
@@Alte.Kameraden Oh, another origin story. Ain't that original. I kind a miss those days when the hero protagonists just jumped on screen fully fledged and how he came to be was told to use somewhere in the Act Two.
@@wjzav1971 I think it has more to do with wanting to make film trilogies. You don't start them in the middle. If I recall this was mean to be a film series, but well it didn't work out that way.
I actually loved this movie c:
My grandma took me to see it when I was 14 and I still enjoy it today
Nathan Cole’s motive for wanting to marry that woman was because he didn’t think he could have a family of his own due to his injures in the war? Damn that is deep.
He is right. I didn’t notice that detail. I just thought he was a creep.
Well, he still was a creep though
@@thanhhoang7335 yeah agreed. But I love it when they give characters more depth. Especially for the antagonists of the story.
10:48 I actually really liked this movie as a kid when it came out, I watched it on multiple occasions. How did I never notice that he was insecure about having no wiener
With her accent and how it's worded, my brain won't register the words. It's really weird...I'm a native English speaker, it's just how it's written and pronounced. Hey, proof is how I've never seen Filmento have to write out the text and highlight it like that LOL.
be glad to put on subtitles on the movie when you watch it on dvd or at home online!
As a kid?
What are you 17? Lol
@@Logan_93
What's wrong with him being 17? Jealous, old man?
You honestly never really needed the train sequence, you could've started the whole movie with him waking up in the grave and figuring out how he died.
But then you would have needed to show what he figured out and you'll end up with the same movie in a different and more confusing order.
Why? It's well done. It's fun and exciting.
cowboys and aliens started with that scene
Basic storytelling for complete noobs: Start the story at the latest point possible that still makes sense.
i watched this movie with my family last night and even though it’s 2 and a half hours long, it truly felt like i was watching a four hour long movie
Honestly, I think John being an idiot is part of a character arc and I cannot be convinced otherwise.
The final chase on the train is a masterpiece of directing, editing and rythm.
And the only good scene in the movie
That's what Gore's bread and butter is. He is fantastic at directing incredible action sequences.
And music.
Gore Verbinski is a master of his craft
randomguy6679 false, the opening scene is also magnificent. This whole movie was beautifully directed.
I was so heartbroken when I found out this movie flopped... I really love this movie
@Matt R Or, you know, people might be allowed to like whatever films they wish.
@Matt R I'm gonna look for your aproval next time I watch a movie
@Matt R you can sort my trash too
Hollywood used to love making Westerns because they were CHEAP. And one of the things general audiences liked about westerns is that their plots were usually simple (which also allowed more time for character development). Those two things if done properly could have made this movie be a welcome breath of fresh air in an era dominated by huge effects heavy superhero movies. So this movie being so huge and complicated really means that the filmmakers didn't understand why the audience might have been interested in it. They wanted to make a superhero movie covered in dust.
When a film is just non-stop action from beginning to end to end the complaint is that the film never slows down to establish characters and build a story. When a film takes the time to establish characters and set-up the story the complaint is that the film is too slow and audiences are bored. Whatever, I never watch these blockbuster products anyway.
I still like this movie. Gave me that old western feel. Maybe cause my grandma is a western fan and all I watched around her was western films.
They should've taken a few tips from Zorro if they wanted to make a Western in the modern era. I think having the train flip over and soon around like a cartoon was a bad choice.
I hate the fact no one likes this movie *I LOVE IT!!*
me too!
I really liked this movie especially the detail of Tanto "making trade"
@@johnbeauvais3159 That whole aspect of his character was so interesting, stemming from the bad trade he made as a kid that got his village massacred.
@@barbaro267 The one at the end "Who would ever trade a silver watch for birdseed?"
"Bird can not tell time" has stuck with me because it's a hilarious answer that demonstrates how a valid consideration, what if he was making trade with a bird, can be overlooked. It also shows that something that might not be as valuable can be more useful. Also it's just a really clever response and shows that Tanto is sly when he wants to be
@@johnbeauvais3159 I absolutely agree. His character was quirky, but also wise when need be. That line is such a great one!
im literally on the floor convulsing right now, how could you say this movie is a flop when its my favourite?
They cast an essential "Nobody" as The Lone Ranger, then casted a "Big Budget" Actor as Tonto thinking the Supporting Character would carry the movie and it was just exactly like that scene, your head getting dragged through horse turds
This could have done well with a Nobody as the lead character, but the writing, acting and direction were all shit!
That was a big problem, they were trying to have the supporting character carry the movie. The main character was dumb and the worst cowboy ever.
I don’t think that the main character being “dumb” was the problem. You can have an incompetent hero supported by a competent second just fine (think Austin Powers or Wallace and Gromit), but you gotta be consistent about it, and this movie wasn’t. Both Tonto and the lone ranger kinda switched roles and competency levels and seriousness and never fully committed to any role (silly or serious, main or second)
But I think the main issue here is that the movie treats the supporting character as main, only because he is THE Johnny Depp.
I think that Armie Hammer would’ve been able to carry the movie IF he had been given the chance, but he wasn’t. As soon as JD appeared he didn’t steal the screen, he was handed the screen and it showed.
@@javec7697 Hey, Austin Powers was competent. Lol he was only incompetent for a short time when he lost his mojo after dr. Evil time traveled and sucked it out of his frozen body.
Lol fair enough xD
I'm mostly shaking my head about how they didn't even bother to research what a Wendigo actually is. If this is in the west, I'd think a skinwalker would be more appropriate.
It could be a connection to the cannibalism? That's what creates a Wendigo.
@@Siofragames Yeah, but the story doesn't really go into that. According to American Indian stories, it is something that you can or will become after giving in to to your baser emotions. Never really got THAT from this story, which isn't to say it is a bad story, because I love it, but it isn't about a Wendigo.
The chief of the commanche literally said wendigos were stories told to children to scare them. I get u but what a wendigo is isnt really important especially if you consider the end where tanto says you aren't a wendigo you are a greedy man or some shit like that . just commenting cuz im watching it rn lol
Tanto as a child attached that label, and then as he grew older, he failed to shed the assumption (probably because of how traumatic his experience was, and also how high the cost of realizing humanity is capable of that kind of evil would be). A child misusing a legend isn't surprising.
@@Siofragames ironic that Army Hammer is the real wendigo
yes, slowly cutting the heart out of a dying man's chest is definitely tonally appropriate for the movie where man gets dragged over the horse poo poo. LOL DEFINITELY FITS LOL
To be fair, the contrast between brutality violence/tragedy and cartoonish silliness can work when done correctly. Take Django Unchained for instance. Or hell, practically any Tarantino film. For instance Infinity War was light and humorous at times without destroying the weight and impact of what was going on throughout.
@@hollowbastion9372 You're right. But it think getting conflicting or even contradicting tones to work properly with each other is one of the hardest things to tackle in filmmaking. If you're not 100% sure that you can get it right, you might better step away from it, because it can easily fuck up everything.
Bijinius Cross then you can’t like Indiana Jones either lol
It was very poorly handled in this movie. Butch even takes a bite out of it. And then we get to watch a horse shit and drag a guy over said feces.
Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
That's the part of the movie that was not needed it didn't work with the rest of the film, it was my issue with the movie.
I remember watching this with my grandfather when it came out on Vudu. I thought it was pretty cool, especially the train battle
I feel like I enjoy movies that nobody likes
Same
This movie, john carter, and tron legacy, are movies i loved when I was younger without internet or cable, i learned later around 2016 when i got into movie reviews I learned that not many liked those movies
I believe people nowadays take movies too seriously
@@technounionrepresentative4274 I think I take movies to seriously but I still love all the movies you listed.
I would recommend this movie for the following specific situation: you and your friends / family have all sat down to a big meal together, maybe it was Thanksgiving or someone's birthday. You've had a great conversation and a great meal and for whatever reason it's not practical for anyone to leave yet. You don't want to watch a complicated movie, and you want a movie where people can doze off while watching it and not feel they've missed out - yet it has to be engaging enough for those who are still awake. The Lone Ranger is the perfect movie for this scenario.
I gotta say it. I love this movie even tho it has big problems
SAMMIE ye me too. I thought it was funny
Same lmao, I thought it was pretty funny n all. Not a masterpiece by any chance, but something I'll gladly watch and enjoy.
I dislike very few movies
Me too I like the overall vibe
it's a fun action movie
This movie eis so nostalgic to me.
I remember watching it after a very tiring day working with my dad, eating pizza and soda in the night.
Good times.
I saw this movie in theatres and loved it. Had no idea it was a flop.
I’m still sad this movie failed, I wanted the western to return even tho nowadays that genre is kinda hard to get people interested into.
At least we had Tarantino doing some stuff
But the story was not that great. Solely based on Johnny Depp.
The Mandalorian is basically a space Western and people seem to love it. It's just about giving it a fresh coat of paint, the genre itself is timeless.
No genre ever truly dies. Westerns are still made today, they're just kind of sidelined. In a Valley of Violence, Jane Got a Gun, Hostiles, the list goes on. They don't rake in the money that they did in the 50's, when you got a new western practically every week, but they do get made on a fairly regular basis.
The thing about westerns is there are still great ones out there and they are all small budget or indie movies. It's just they don't need to be $250 million blockbusters since westerns are pretty cheap to make.
I watched it a few years ago expecting to just make fun of it the whole time. I was surprised by how much I liked it. Like the video says, it mostly suffered from pacing issues and not being clear enough with character motivations.
The most interesting thing to me though was how good of a job Johnny Depp actually does in this movie. From the trailers you expect just more of the same over the top wacky style of acting associated with his Tim Burton performances, but what you get is almost the straight man in a comedy duo contrasted with Armie Hammer's goofy character.
Overall a 6.5/10. Not a great movie, but not as bad as you may have been led to believe.
This comment was better than the whole video
The film started off great but that was it. Tonto's backstory is absolutely AWESOME but otherwise the film is just plain silly.
The only great character is the nefarious antagonist. That's how I anticipated Euron Greyjoy to be. The director couldn't decide what the film should be and messed up completely.
The problem is, a 6.5/10 movie doesn't earn $300 million at the box office
sean hantz tell that to star wars XD
@@gabrielfallon8629 LoL. I assume you're referring to the original Episode IV? In all fairness, Star Wars was revolutionary for its time, from the storyline, to the characters, to the visual effects. It literally took the world by storm. By contrast the Lone Ranger mythos is so old (originating in what, the 1950s?) that most of the tropes have been copied and done better by this point. It really didn't show audiences anything they hadn't already seen before. Hell, even the framing device, namely the story told in flashback by an old man (Tonto), had already been done in Young Guns (Billy the Kid). Same mistake that John Carter made (another $200M disappointment), trying to create a never-before-seen blockbuster out of source material that was almost a century old.
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Atlanta is better. Cheaper cost of living and a blooming industry in cinema. Expanding every year
I have noticed a bunch of people enjoying this movie, me included. That makes me think why this movie was a blockbuster fail and you said it at the beginning of the video. It was trying to be a blockbuster.
Western movies tend to be pretty slow and people who came, expecting a blockbuster with a bunch of action in it, which ends up with people being disappointed by the end. This movie was just not meant for theaters. This movie was meant for watching on your sofa while you relax or do whatever.
“He’s one of them rangers...round here, he’s known as strider.”
Watching Johnny Depp wander around the whole time with a dead bird on his head was the clincher for me.
The Lone Ranger is a wonderfully underrated film!
Right up there with other Disney produced films like John Carter of Mars & Tron legacy.
All of these are tremendously underrated films that deserve more love than they got on their release days.
So glad that all these films have found their audience since their theater release & in a way all of these films have become Disney cult classics now!
If there's any film I would love to see a sequel to, it's this one!
The Lone Ranger successfully does what wild wild west attempted to do in the 90s and failed at.
Lone Ranger is a tremendous love letter to beautiful western films of the past, and does a similar creative thing of building up the protagonist in The way Disney used to do with films like condorman.
Another film where the protagonist was kind of a nerdy buffoon who learned to be the hero over time.
THAT'S the kind of character and protagonist I'm interested in and the film's villains are handled just as well.
Other big problem is trying to have a somewhat dark andgrim story with lots of people getting killed, and then having Johnny Depp being a comedy act is just 3rd wall breaking.
I still feel, that even with all its flaws it didn't deserve to be so poorly received and have that bad results. It is not the greatest movie of all time but it is a very decent movie and it gives very good entertainment once it picks pace. Very good video tho. :)
the only thing that matters is majority opinion whether the majority is right or wrong.
Gregg Hanson only for those who choose to let it matter
@@mightymaxglitches1548 If it's your job to make movies (meaning it's your source of income) of course it matters. You can choose to earn a bit less money in order to make something better artistically maybe send a message if you're into something like that but you mustn't lose money especially not 200 million. If you lose that much money you objectively failed even if there are couple of people who like it
@@nnnp634 the pros spend 1 million on a movie and profit like 30 millions aka blumhouse
I did enjoy this movie especially with the final fight scene and the music playing made it more memorable.
Gioachino Rossinis William Tell Overture Finale. I cannot listen to that without constantly laughing in euphoria. It's glorious!
aa yes high ho silver... that was only good thing about that moive... the rest just meh...
The train finale is one of my favorite action sequences of all time. It's absolutely epic & captures the throwback, not-quite-realistic action of the original show. Sometimes, I throw just this scene on for the kids & we have have a blast. People hate on this movie but never actually saw it.
I watched this with friends and we were the easiest audiences ever since we only wanted some excuses to hang out together. But when we left the theatre everyone had the same thought, “WTF was that”.
I really liked the pacing of this film honestly. I wish it was done more often. General audiences are only used to getting into action scenes and main plot points quickly because the expectation has been set for them by other blockbuster movies. Then again, after seeing The Turin Horse every movie feels fast paced lol.
I didnt know this movie flop, but I do like this movie, wouldn't mind to rewatch it.
there are lot to enjoy here.... as long you turn your brain off.... i would mind since it a waste of my time.... since there r so much better moive out there...
Same here! I did not even know people disliked it
me too
Easily Johnny Depp's worst role since being Amber Heard's husband.
Shr1mpSush1 lmao
His role was good. The director just didn't know what to do
@@MrMango331 Johnny Depp was basically sleepwalking through this whole movie.
He was at his prime in PotC: Curse of the Black Pearl and it only went downhill afterwards. Even with this mediocre script, a Johnny Depp in form could have made it work due to sheer charisma and because he would have demanded changes.
@@tjroelsma nah he did his thing in dead man's chest and worlds end after that yea it went downhill
@@kidmiic1733 I would argue that neither Dead Man's Chest nor Worlds End reached the level of Curse of the Black Pearl. Yes, they were way better than Lone Ranger, but Depp/Sparrow was already showing to be way more real drunk instead of pretend drunk in the sequels.
Albeit going for different audiences / approachability, Django: Unchained is a good example of how the movie SHOULD have been, in terms of pacing and plot development.
Instead of opening with the 'Noble Savage' display, they could have framed something along the lines of the main character interacting with a Marshal or someone similar, introducing and resolving minor conflict, and perhaps being given a badge as a keepsake - then transitioning that into having effects throughout the rest of the story, culminating in them taking up the law personally (putting on the badge before the final conflict or something similar).
The not-quite naive, but still semi-pacifist hero, left for dead with their family murdered, takes up the gun, seeks revenge, then later justice. Toss in a side-plot or two, where say the bad guy's actions indirectly cause good, and that by pursuing vengeance (say destroying what they built, i.e. a mineshaft) would devastate the lives of the innocent, etc.
In my view, that would create a more socially and philosophically 'complex' narrative, which imparts 'life lessons', can be reasonably fast paced, while still retaining high narrative values. Perhaps even taking the step that the character does not recognize the flaws in their singleminded pursuit until the effects are had, at which point they have to pick up the pieces, and find a way to atone.
I think the theme could have been about modernity vs tradition, rather than having that conflict be present in the script itself
I might be in the minority, but I like the lone ranger movie, and I enjoy every second of it each time I rewatch it.
i dont think you are minority, its such a fun movie
What makes a movie a flop in my eyes is the recall factor in your mind. There are movies so good, that you will use the one liners in your day to day vocabulary, when you sit quietly and the movie pop in your head.
A failure is a movie you can't remember. I saw Lone Ranger and I can barely remember anything from it. Seeing your video here, some things are coming back to me. There is movies I have rented and after 20 minutes I realize that I have actually seen it before. That's a true failure
In general movie talk, a flop refers to a movie that makes very little money, regardless of quality. There are quite a number of very terrible movies that are not a flop and actually gain profits (the Transformers movies come to mind) and then there are also movies that are really good but did not turn in a profit and considered a flop.
Edit: Also, the same thing happened when I watched the Shaft movie on Netflix. 5 minutes in, I had a feeling that I've seen it. Skimmed through the timeline and realized that I did... haha :D
Financial flops are more important since every studio is out to build movie franchises now. If a movie makes a boatload of money, you can be guaranteed there will be a sequel. If a movie fails to make money or doesn't take in enough money, there will never be a sequel.
@@clementj That's exactly right. Recall has nothing to do with being a flop. The term "flop" is all about the box office.
Bay's Transformers are the perfect example. Despite being terrible, the first 4 movies were box office smashes. I can still "recall" how terrible part 2 was.
Jaco Tromp Flop is the wrong word, but yeah being forgettable is one of the really bad attributes that a movie can have. Never watched the movie, but I would say that it is pretty „impressive“ for such a visual distinctive movie to be forgettable ... really well done on a negative scale of movie qualities.
I mean, can you really forget the amazin 20 minutes train climax?
I love your videos man!!!
Your arguments are in a nice order. I like to listen to your comments while doing the dishes. It's very relaxing.
Also and the most important of it all you've got some nice memes brah
I made the mistake of listening to the critics and , to this day, am sorry I never saw it on the big screen. Love this movie, bought it.
Somebody needs to do a re-edit of this movie to greatly reduce the comedy, accentuate the drama, and lower the confusion level.
I hear Topher Grace is especially good at that. No, seriously look it up
Johnny Depp tries to hard on this one...i couldn't watch the entire movie..i tapped out 30 mins into it
What confusion ?
What are you confused about?
For the love of the gods, please stop using Infinity War as an example of a good plotted movie!
Leave out all the 20+ movies prior to Infinity War and the movie isn't great anymore. Show Infinity War to a person totally oblivious to all Marvel Comics/Movies, who doesn't know any character prior to Infinity War and this movie will feel like a lukewarm "good generic superhero-league vs. evil purple man from space chasing an insanely powerful magic MacGuffin"-movie.
Infinity War works because it can rely on several years of previous world and character building, not because its a decent stand-alone movie.
(to be clear: infinity war is a good movie, I'm not claiming otherwise! However, it doesn't work compared to a stand-alone/1st in a series movie such as Lone Ranger since it's a sequel to many prior movies)
If you watched Infinity War without seeing any other Marvel film before it, it would be so confusing!
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Only God exists
Just that Thanos isn't some evil purple man that's looking for a macguffin, he's a fleshed out character with motives and a layered personality. And your argument falls flat because Infinity War is a sequel and connected to every other Marvel movie so it should be veiwed as such.
@@domagojzrilic6190
You obviously didn't understand my point lol.
Yes it is a sequel that IS my point. Therefore it only works as a sequel, not as a stand-alone movie. 🙄
It wasn't meant be a stand-alone movie which makes it a poor example for "being a better stand-alone movie" than Lone Ranger. It isn't, because infinity war isn't a stand-alone movie.
@@FeuerblutRM What a foolish surmization of Infinity War. The entire Infinity War trilogy is not meant to exist as a single standalone. It is meant to be the pyramid spire on a pyramid schematic of the previous movies. If you want to be further destroyed by me keep posting idiotic and asinine statements again. Fool.
I still really enjoy this movie as I got to see it with my grandpa before he passed away(he loved the OG Lone Ranger) and while has its problems I always love watching it
I love it when you use fragments from the movie in question like a sort of meme template, to illustrate a statement you're making
Sadly, this was beaten by Despicable Me 2 out of all movies.
The problem with this film is the plot, and the tone. John Reid's turn as the Lone Ranger is too long, the focus on Tonto as the lead is a mistake, the mixture of camp and serious tones is imbalanced, and the origin of the bad guys (and the groups being split into two) is just too much. It's still servicable, though.
Agreed, this movie never had a clear target audience, which make people doubt about even buying the tickets to watch it.
that less that one was fun...
@@TheThundercool I
Sadly? I'm not saying DM2 is some kind of masterpiece, but at least it wasn't a total trainwreck like this.
Very well said! If it had shifted its focus from Tonto to the Lone Ranger, and made him less of a dweeb, this movie would've have been so much better.
I remember when this movie came out that a big issue a lot of people had was that a tanned Johnny Depp was playing Tonto, a Native American character. Then he tried to justify it by bringing up his past claims that his great-grandmother was "Cherokee or maybe Creek Indian" because she came from Kentucky. 😩💀
Diyah Ni'Quél I remember that too. It did seem like they just gave the role to him without really thinking about how audiences would feel. I think this is half the reason why it flopped. Same with Ghost in the Shell. The controversy kills the franchise before it’s even hit cinemas.
Actually a lot of Natives were upset about this. Yes there were some in the movie and they may have been fine with his portrayal, but many Native Americans spoke out about this when the movie was announced. Natives are actually behind in today's "woke rights". They've only recently been recognized for being culturally appropriated & racially discriminated against. White people have played people of color in cinema for years, but it doesn't make it okay. This is like how white men would put on black face to play an African American. This would not fly today, at all! So why is it okay to do it to Natives?
As for his claims to be Native American, Indian Country Today stated that Depp had never inquired about his heritage nor was he recognized as a member of the Cherokee Nation and it also led to criticism from the Native American community, since he has no documented Native ancestry. During promotions for The Lone Ranger, he was adopted by a member of the Comanche Nation, making him an honorary member of her family but not a member of any tribe. Critical response to his claims from the Native community actually increased after this. So it wasn't just the "woke crowd".
If that's a "criticism" then you need your diapers changed. Being an Indian playing an Indian character doesn't automatically make you an Oscar winner.
@@diyahniquel And of course the problem that the writers of this film didn't understand that the OG Lone Ranger was a sit-com based on Don Quixote, with Tanto (stupid) busting his butt to try and keep "he knows nothing" from killing himself. It's a masterpiece of NDN comedy, and they shit all over it.
@@diyahniquel thats so sad and true...
Albeit in theory IN THEORY im not opposed as people portraying my people in movies (i cant complain about, for example, Eli Wallach in the good , the bad n the ugly, negative stereortype and all but the movie was HELLA GOOD) denying the history of negative portrayals like mikey rooney as an asian (an even WEAPONIZED ones as a way to indignify the misrepresented) and brush it off as the "durr hurrr Sucial joozteez guarriors whinneing" will be just plain ignorant and reductionist...if not dumb. but in my case, im in this particular moral dilema:
In one hand, u hire actors mostly because how capable of the role they are and recognizable, so people enjoy it and it does not flop: i mean, representation or not, the movie's priority is to be enjoyable! not a sociology's essay (if u want real, unbiased and as accurate as it can gets representation of minorities you should...like... watch a documental or read literature about them?) ; in the other, we dont know for sure in back in the pre-production days there were a native movie actor charming enough for the role, not just portraying as tonto bc representation, but also doing a hella good job at it! thus, not just making an enjoyable product but also putting in high ground the represented people (and being a sort of role model for the kids to look up to ☺) and hollywood didnt hire the man mostly out of lazzyness/narcissism when casting.
whats more important at the end of the day?: try to please a crowd who cares more about "historical-repair" and the harm it maaaaaayyyy do than watch the movie? (*CoffcoffselfdepricatingwhitesCoffcoff*)
and walk on eggshells when it comes to the minorities we're borrowing credibility from?
or just... make a damn movie, as manny jimmies it may rustle moslty because someone...somewhere..will yes or yes become offended out of paranoia rather than criticism of the product? (*CoffcoffwhitesagainCoffcoff*)
(keep in mind that the real problem with misrepresentation is not the posibility of offense itself but the posibility of REAL LASTING IMAGE HARM it may do to the people's portrayed...not what it """""could""""" do, but what it objectibly DOES in the publics perception)
tldr: whats more important in a movie: hire a good actor? or not offend the one we borrow credibility when harming them is NOT the intention?
I honestly LOVE this film. It is not THAT slow, and has a smart, brilliant plot and well-developed characters.
its honestly a good movie and im extremely confused as to how it flopped, its a damn shame.
I have to disagree that films that are 'too smart' are doing something wrong, one of the worst thing you can do as a writer is underestimate your audience, or to treat them like idiots. People know when they are being pandered to, and talked down to. You have to write the story you want to tell. It's fine to do so with an age group or demographic in mind, but "idiots" is not a demographic, it's insulting.
The Dark Knight is an example of a '"too smart" hero film. And yet it became a success
Thank you for writing this, on a lot of video essays and other analysis type content, the TH-camr and parts of their comment section share the mentality of audiences being dumb and not appreciating smart movies
Well he touched on that with the red string, obviously how audience is to slow to pick up on that XD jokes jokes
Blade Runner 2049
budget: 150 million
box office: 260 million
The Meg
budget: 130 million
box office: 730 million
I hate them, but dumb movies work.
It's not insulting if it's correct. If you are making a movie so expensive that i can only be profitable by making a billion dollars, you need to appeal to every demographic. That includes a lot of 'low-intelligence' 'low-attention span' viewers, regardless of how offensive you find that as a demographic.
The one thing that baffles about this movie, is how the hell did this thing cost 300 million? What did they spend all of this money? Clearly not visual effects, clearly wasted marketing because I did hear about this movie when it first came out...
Alochol
That no visual effects part is that because they are damn good visual effects so you didnt noticed. They dont blow up trains bridges and other stuff
Until now, I don't see the point of this film being a flop.
It got a decent story, good acting, great casting, epic action scenes, not so bad ending and let's not forget the movie had scenes of awareness for racial slavery.
I mean what is not to like ?
Can we also talk about how much of a faux pas it was to have John take the moral high ground over Tonto while calling him a savage at the same time? I mean... Yikes.
I mean he didn't call him a savage, he just said "I'm not a savage", for behaving in a particular way.
@@Gadget-Walkmen By implication, calling himself better for "not being a savage" implies the person he's talking to is a savage.
@@guyofminimalimportance7 maybe but not 100% sure because maybe he’s just taking about savage killing behavior. Not people but like I said, It’s not 100% clear on that.
@@Gadget-Walkmen At the very least it's pretty easy to immediately assume that's what he means. Once again; if the reason you claim you're better than someone else is because you're "not a _____" then that's pretty much the same as calling the other person whatever fills in that blank. That's just how English works. This, mixed with how the belief that all natives were savages was a common justification for Americans as they forced them out of their homes makes the whole exchange very awkward.
I'm not saying acknowledging the biases or different social standards of a the period in a movie set in the past is wrong. What I am saying however is Validating that bias by portraying the character expressing it as being correct in his belief is pretty questionable to say the least.
He was a savage though
As someone who genuinely enjoyed this movie, I found myself very engaged by your critique of it. I also love your style of visual comedy. Very well done!
I think the biggest fault this movie had was making The Lone Ranger such a dweeb for 90% of the movie.
That and a misleading title: it should have been called "Tonto". Also, the insufferable Johnny Depp is your lead! A recipe for failure!
I didn't mind that. They should have cast someone else for Tonto though.
@Andrew Jackson Lou Diamond Phillips is exactly what this movie was missing! The perfect modern Tonto!
Yeah the ranger is never allowed to be the hero.
@@kidpizz Yep. It sure as hell didn't do Clayton Moore justice. Armie Hammer looked the part & easily could've carried the same charisma and presence, but the writers just trashed all opportunities for that. I feel like most of that falls on Johnny Depp. Once they made the mistake of signing him on for Tonto, he probably demanded an insane amount of money to have the "lead" role/lines.
If Depp was never in the picture, I get the strange feeling that we would've have a fine Lone Ranger film!
bruh one of my favourite movies lol, guess i just have a sort of soft spot for cowboys
The movie was actually pretty good. The outrage mob just had a hissy fit.
This video did, in fact, encourage me to watch The Lone Ranger.
I didn’t even hear about Cole being “gelded” and I’ve watched he movie twice now, knowing that he goes from cartoon villain to an actual believable character.
Before I was like “ wtf why does he want that boy so bad is he a pedo!??”
I legit didn't know about Cole's whole deal I just thought it was generic villain is into the female and protagonist has to save her lmao
neither did i ! and i have probably watched it +4 times !
Talk-supersix-seven it has to do with the conversation being in such little focus in the scene you didn’t realize the implication
is that Cole lost his manhood not that they ever try showing any hints about it like him being jealous of a man peeing standing up or something 😝
Westerns are usually slower type movies as in that’s what this is so the sluggish feeling comes from every western I watched hell I even got that feeling when watching rango and everyone praises that movie
"How to build the biggest flop of all time"
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...Is it just me or was that the “eating” sound effect from Minecraft? Am I hearing things?
You ain't the only one
It definitely is.
Holy crap it is!
Sam Lim
Wait, was that actually in the movie?
@Sam0193 it wasn't in the movie lmao, Filmento edited that in for a bit of comedy i guess
I was surprised at the low rating of this movie on IMDB but even more surprised when I realised that the villain had no weiner
I thought this was one of those movies that gets better every time you watch it.
LEGO sets for this we’re amazing wish I never missed out on the sets ............
This movie is my guilty pleasure
bro you need to get out more often.
I was so hype for this movie. They had so much potential and screwed it up.
kingDom 1515 Yep. And I feel like one main reason is that cavendish is an awful enemy and he eats hearts.
Don’t let ugly, awful people at hearts in mainstream blockbusters, guys.
agreed.
i was not... rememeber did watch it in theater since i was free back then...
@@bingobongo1615 Cavendish was one of the few good things to come out of this movie, imo. He needs to be awful, lmao. He's the damn villain of the movie.
Man, I'm learning so much about movies in this channel 😂❤ I'm gonna criticize so hard the next time I go to the movies
The Lone Ranger was f-ing awesome. But I’m not rewatching it to confirm or deny this. We shall never know for sure