Alien The Original Screenplay - Alien Lore History & Origins - Space Jockey Lore - StarBeast
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The Alien film from 1979 went through alot of script changes. This video will cover the original story by Dan O'Bannon in comic book form released by Dark Horse Comics. Alien The Original Screenplay. It also includes alot of history and evolution about the Space Jockey. Where its name came from and how is design had changed during production. StarBeast. What is Alien the Original Screenplay?
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Xenamorphs and Predators, are they real??
Great narrated comic sir! I really enjoyed it!
A. Lot. Two words not one.
So I was not aware that Disney got a hold of the rights of aliens and predator.
I don't know if you know this but fortnite did a collaboration with Marvel for season 4 battle pass. And Marvel is owned by Disney. Season 5 battle pass has just added Mandalorian and Predator as characters. Alongside Snake Eyes from GI Joe and the t-800. I'm going to guess that Disney owns all of that too now.
Disney has a history of holding on to to the copyright franchise longer than it should. So it's kind of a damn shame but they got their tentacles on this.
Disney is the real predator.
I don't know man . dark horse comics was doing quite fine in my opinion . And i don't think marvel would do a better job than dark horse .
@Stoobentooben M.D. yeah you're right lmao
@Stoobentooben M.D. actually they got Marvel Max for that kinda stuff. i also thought that they might tone down their Max stuff since they’re owned by Disney now (and that’s what they’ve been doing for the most part on the mainline books) but they just released a new Punisher book in the imprint and it literally had a scene where three guys got fucking skinned alive
They can't get 90% of the Star Wars comic right. That's with tons of resources...They will never get this right.
@Stoobentooben M.D. lol very True. Alien is far more difficult to get right through. As we can see in the movies.
Dark Horse is the golden boy when it comes to these dark comics but don't forget Marvel has put out some brutal works, for example a line of Punisher comics that was super brutal.
I am really digging that original space jockey. It carries the presence of something powerful and mystical.
I like it and geigers, though this One if by far cooler and more freaky and elegant looking, I kinda like Geiger’s version a little bit more? I think the reason I like it more is because despite it not looking human at all, despite almost melding into its chair, there’s this air of elegance and higher power that can still be obviously seen, it’s like seeing a sculpture about love for a different species or a different culture, despite it not looking like anything you know or have seen it some aspect of its divinity can still be felt
B9th are def weird and creepy
The 'Prometheus' suits were some of the least imaginative explanation of this decade,
It reminds me of Fern from Adventure Time.
I really feel for Dan O'Bannon, this version is more or less the same as the movie and it annoys me that David Giler has tried to discredit Dan by saying that the original script needed a major re-write. The main thing they have changed is the inclusion of a pyramid and changing the crew from scientists into space truckers.
they chaned the Alien cus of tehnology issues
and cut out the pyramid
Giler and Hill added Ash, that was their major contribution.
Yeah, I was gonna say, there's really not many changes. Hell, they even had the cat in this script.
I felt like you once, but having read O'Bannon's first draft and the shooting script, which was doctored by Giler and Hill, I have to give it to those guys also. The story and premise are entirely O'Bannon's. There's no taking that away from him, but the feel of the movie we now know as Alien only came about through the rewrites by all the parties. The changes Giler and Hill made were for the better, it has to be said.
Giler and Hill's contribution of Ash was indeed inspired, which made Ash one of the most iconic androids in film history. That said, Giler himself gives me such slimy producer vibes in how he downplays O'Bannon's script and seems to insinuate that he was more of a contributor than Dan O'Bannon or Ron Schusset.
Disney AND Marvel? Oh man they're gonna suck all the cosmic horror right out.
Marvel is full of cosmic and horror stuff. They can do Alien.
@@walterhoward5512 yeah, but it always has to have the themes of the rest of marvel and non of the violence because disney wont allow anything past pg-13 to exist. There will be no true violence, no dark corperate themes.
@@speeve1366 I'm pretty sure Deadpool is confirmed to be R-rated aswell as blade. Blade I'm not too sure about but Deadpool will definetly be R-rated so it's possible alien and predator franchises will be R-rated aswell
@@speeve1366 The Marvel movies and comics are two separate things. There is a comic book called Immortal Hulk that has violence just as graphic as anything in the Alien films. It is very anti-corporate as well.
@@dracodraco8003 Yes but all the movies your talking about are pre-disney
I just like how the so-called original idea of alien wasn’t supposed to be some ant-like hive. It was meant to be truly alien, Lovecraftian in a way. Like they said the Alien in, well Alien had a sadistic nature to it (the unseen tail rape to death on Lambert) The Alien’s ideal, motives, perspective and everything about it was alien.
Exactly, and everything that followed just turned it into a nothing special bug that could be blown away. I hate the term xenomorph, it was something unfathomable, something utterly alien.
@@yogajitsu7252 I think the Xeno morph was pretty cool as nothing’s acted like it before and how it’s purpose is just survive and how it’s a merciless killer
Lovecraftian is a great term to apply to the original Alien. It was twisted in a way and the whole thing was like some kind of weird bad dream. In the novelization by Alan Dean Foster the crew of the Nostromo even began to consider that the Alien might be capable of invisibility, to which Ash says "No known creature is capable of genuine invisibility" Ripley replies with "No known creature is able to rip through solid steel hull plating" It was super eerie to consider that and an ice chill ran down Lambert's back as she considered that the creature could actually be in the mess room with them if it was capable of invisibility. The Giger designs and mood is all totally Lovecraftian. This is what everything after Alien lost, like I said, it became utterly 'de-alienized' and even got itself a name, the Xeno! It became nothing more than a one-dimensional sci fi horror creature that we have seen a million times before in sci fi horror. That's what made Alien so compelling and unique, it was totally and utterly... Alien.
@@yogajitsu7252 if you play Alien Isolation, you can see that they actually mixed both the original and bug concepts. Each "drones" are almost invincible and mysterious as was the xenomorph in Alien, while they still capture humans to breed and build a hive
@Autistic Luci What?
What's with people in space finding out a planet has breathable air immediately taking off their helmet. As if there aren't any other kinds of threats from deadly dust to I don't know Aliens!
I've been asking that every since I saw Covenant. 😒😒😒😒
Do u wear a covid mask as well?
@@qram281 What's a COVID mask?
We have to wear masks on earth right now. No way would anyone realistically take their helmet off on an alien planet...
@@qram281 Funny you mentioned that. Now, looking what some people is doing in Earth, the space travelers taking their helmets off doesn't seems that out-of-character for human beings.
Looks like Lovecraft great old ones.
Yeah this design seems to have that vibe to it. The other video I did does mention the Lovecraft connection.
In fact the original alien does feel like a Lovecraft type of story about a group of explores stumbling onto a great discovery only this discovery leads them to the world of the unknown wear man was never meant to gaze
@Lucifer Black tentacles
@Lucifer Black
Oh dear *Azathoth*
Chill!
They only said the alien looks like one of Lovecraft creatures, yours is a real big overreaction...
Just eat a snicker and drink some chamomile tea!
@Lucifer Black wow you’re such an edge lord
The design is VERY Lovecraftian
So sit down, fool
The thing that made the original Alien moves so great was that the alien was a complete mystery. Much more realistic not to know the backstory on your alien monster.
And that's the main problem, Alien was NOT a monster, it was NOT an animal. It was alien intelligent life form, as smart or smarter than humans and that's why first one worked so well. Viewers along with the crew with every single kill realises that this "animal" is actually thinking just like humans, hell, it might be even more intelligent since it is always two steps ahead of the crew. What Cameron fucked up was how he treated Alien, he changed it into some alien huge space bug, he wanted too much to make Starship Troopers movie and thus he borrowed a lot from that book, he changed Alien into space bugs, he took space marines concept and voila - ALIENS. I don't deny that it is a great action flick movie but it is really, really poor ALIEN sequel since it simply slaughtered all the mystery and unknown about alien and it's origin. That's why I respect ALIEN3 more, sure the production of the movie was a mess and Fincher couldn't do what he wanted with the movie due to studio interference but at least he wanted and tried hard to return the franchise to it's origin and give us a movie that would bring back the atmosphere from the first part.
@@lxdead5585 if u read the comics man aliens were space bugs with a queen leading them even the alien in first movie had the objective to lay an egg it was set in stone
if u read the comics cameron inspired from those (starship troopers was made before alien 2 )
@@notoriousbig3k Are people stupid or what? Comics were first or O'Bannon script and Scott movie? Alien was intelligent life form, not space bug - period.
Btw. Alien had no objective to "lay an egg", in deleted scene he simply transformed his victims into eggs which IMHO is MUCH MORE horrifying idea.
Yeah, Starship Troopers is a book from 50's and that's why Cameron took inspiration from it.
You know what’s scary? Questions. You know what isn’t scary? Answers. That’s why monsters are scary. The word demonstrate, or to answer, is literally the opposite of the word monster... you “de-monster” it. That’s why monsters aren’t scary once you see them in broad daylight. I’m looking at you alien covenant!
@@JobForAMaxboy right on the money, the truth is that the ALIEN franchise suffers from success, it is a HUGE pop culture icon even if you’ve never seen the movie itself or any of its sequels (I mean I haven’t but that just adds to my point) you’ve SEEN the alien or creatures and designs that reference it, you really have to put yourself in a specific mindset to really see the impact this movie has had on everything, not just horror, how do you expand on such a masterpiece? How do you make a movie about a mystery you can’t and won’t solve? Honestly even if they made the original change of turning you into an egg by melting your body, that doesn’t change much, I can call them an ant colony all I want, their blood is still acid, they are still super strong, super smart, and super going to rape my face to make more parasites, even if they aren’t the same mysterious creature they are still scary and deadly, bears aren’t new, and even though I know that bears hibernate and like honey doesn’t mean a bear could not Maul me to death!
Very sad to hear that the Predator: Original screenplay comic was canceled.
Neca has a predator figure wearing the remains of the original predator concept
While I am a huge fan of the original, ranking it in my top 3 horror films, I do like this screeenplay, a lot. The pyramid gives it a much stronger Lovecraftian feel; more ancient, forbidden, and unknowable.
I was expecting there to be more than superficial differences between the original script and the movie. Seeing as how little of the story came from Scott himself it's starting to make sense why the recent sequels were so bleh.
I actually liked Prometheus more than Alien Covenant. Maybe it's because I watch videos on Aliens, UFOs, History, Origin of Man etc. So that one really got me interested. It was a small connection to the Alien which was a nice touch. But everyone has their preference. 🙂
Walter Hill was the one who really nailed the original Alien script, and gave it that just another day in space feel. That touch of blue collar space trucker realism is notably absent from the other films, which is one reason why they arent as good.
Scott only did Alien because of Star Wars, he was going to do a classical romance adaptation but Star Wars blew his mind and so he took the Alien offer instead. Walter Hill had been offered to direct but declined due to the visual effects work needed. Scott took the job and did storyboards for it, and they doubled the budget based on those. O'Bannon also said that Alien got greenlit because of Star Wars being a hit - Alien was the only space-story script the studio had, so they went for it. It's a shame O'Bannon never got more recognition and opportunities, because in addition to Alien he basically invented cyberpunk with Moebius, in a comic strip they did while on a break from the Dune project in the early 70s, called 'The Long Tomorrow'.
@@AcidGlow I have to agree with you about Prometheus to an extent, recently I watched a lecture about Denisovans and I was surprised how much it related to the various elements of Prometheus, clearly Ridley Scott was referencing some very recent anthropological findings there, which also links to legends of Altaian giants. It's got me interested in other things, like I believe Scott has his albino giant say something in Sanskrit, I have no idea what though. Someone on the internet has probably translated it though I'm sure.
I've heard it said several times that 'Ridley Scott is only ever as good as the script'. Personally I think that is a testament to what a professional director he actually is. I think he's a really good visual director and is brilliant at creating consistent quality, but he isn't a writer.
Starbeast is an awesome name, regardless of context
Should be a band ...
Fun Facts: My home town is a very small place called Winona, MO. That is also Dan O'Bannon's hometown. Not only that, but my aunt and uncle used to own a property called Odd Acres. Back in the day, long before then, it was owned by the O'Bannon's, and was Dan's childhood home. I spent countless night in that house, and on that property, growing up. I slept in his old bedroom, lol.
I like how the foreword mentions how the comic is based on the 1st draft screenplay, as well as pre-Giger designs...
Yet for those of us that have read the script and seen the paintings, *NOTHING* in the comics look even remotely 70’s much less like those drawings.
thats sci-fi man
they predicted the future .. its media art etc that dictates tones and trends so yeah most fashion in sci-fi back then is now real fashion today
Loosely based on, i love mobius's design even if giger's became so iconic.
HUGE missed opportunity. I would've loved if this comic had a watercolor/Heavy Metal Magazine artstyle that replicated the concept art of the original film, I just don't like how the end product looks like IMO
It's like Prometheus and Alien 1 in one story.
It's awesome
I didn't even realised moebius was also involved in the alien Universe !!
From what i read. Only just a bit. He mainly passed some of his drawings. It was only minor pieces for the crew to expand upon.
The Nostromo spacesuits in Alien are all Moebius!
@@ronniemarion8456 agreed
It was Alejandro Jodorowsky that ensembled a team existing of Dan O'bannon, HR Gieger, Jean Giraud and Chriss Foss for producing his Dune movie. Though this version of Dune was never made, Alejandro's team was quite successful in Hollywood afterwards. In fact the entire team has worked on the Alien movie. If I remember correctly, I think Jean Giraud based his comic 'The Long Tomorrow' on a story that Dan O'Bannon had written.
They could've retooled this in to a alien prequel instead of what we got with promtheus
And tell pretty much the same story as alien 1?
@@todgerx could've made changes jabroni aren't u smart
You ever read the original screenplay for Prometheus? Would have been amazing . I think there are some TH-cam videos on it
@@todgerx lol I know right
No they should have just done a complete reboot, not a prequel
It really is beat for beat a less intense, less atmospheric, version of what we ended up with? I'm glad they trimmed the fat of them going to a separate pyramid to find the eggs and then trying to decipher alien glyphs. I'm also glad the final film kept everything more mysterious, even if Prometheus went back and tried to ruin it.
I also don't get what's better about the original screenplay.
Prometheus is proof that overexplaining can absolutely destroy your continuity. I wanted to like it and Covenant so badly. So so badly. But i cant. I can only fuckinf hate both
@@Dunmerdog
I despise covenant...but I've always LOVED Prometheus. For me Prometheus wasn't an "Alien" movie, yes it gives details of Xenomorph to a varying degree, gives sight of the engineers....but Prometheus was far more centered on mankind, it was about us...our species. Xenomorphs are deadly and lethal...period...BUT....the human variant Xenomorphs are horribly frightful (true dinoxenos, Decons, Predatormorphs, etc are gigantic and brutal, but xenos take on the genetic coding and also the most negative emotional habits of their host...), humans are vile, brutish, and treacherous beings that if encountering an alien species...no matter how promotion diplomacy and democracy....we would conquer, control, enslave and exterminate that species to profit ours....if given the chance. We've constantly have done that to member groups of our own species since the dawn of our kind. We've exterminated, we've enslaved, we've experimented, we've butchered from the start and what is even more disgusting....it contributes sooo much to our evolutionary path. That's the human coded Xenomorph, it will consume and exterminate ANYTHING to substantiate itself....its hive (mind you hives wage constant wars against each other. Xenomorphs have shown signs of being prejudice against others xenos and have both conquered and enslaved some of their own kind, but will unite against creatures/species that is not its own)
@@YugiohMaster1987 i agree, I loved prometheus, and was so exited for Alien Covenant but was highly disappointed when it was released. I see Prometheus as separate from the Alien films but connected only by being in the same universe. I was hoping Covenant would carry on the engineers story but it just ended up as a harem scare'm Alien movie that has been done 4 times before. It was such a waist of a good story line. I think it only got cancelled because of the hard-core Alien franchise fans was disappointed because it was different to the original Alien story. They should have just had it as a totally stand alone movie and not advertised as a Alien prequel.
I love Prometheus and the fact that we can prove it did not stray from the Alien universe. Aliens is what strayed and ruined the franchise even though that is a great movie, it just isn't a alien movie. It's a Starship troopers with Xenomorphs. I also loved Covenant. David, being the humans own cosmic horror is fantastic. Prometheus and Covenant added so much depth and breadth to the franchise.
I don't know why. But I laughed out loud at the name Snark.
I'm honestly not out my tits on drugs.
"She wants the pain to end."
_she lights her on fire_
yeah that's totes quick and painless.
I remember reading a book in the fantasy genre.
There, the main character finished off the deadly wounded characters... BY CU.TTING THEIR TH.ROATS.
..his comrades... (╯°益°)╯彡┻━┻
Yeah, humans started exploring without waiting for their own computer to translate the Alien message. I detect bullshit.
Moving around Alien planet without helmets or weapons?
Taking attacked crew mate inside their ship without quarantine measures?
Dissecting the Alien without protection?
I mean half of that happens in the movie as well.
I mean I see the people around us not wearing mask today.. I started to believe the stupid bullshit in the movie
I fucking love that this comic veraion has a damned viking as part of the crew. Space Viking!
Oh no I didn’t even consider a Disney aliens film, YIKES!
Big YIKES Indeed
Safe to say it would be 🗑 🚮
@@tom2gunzbombadil689 Unless it's directed by James Wan, he makes extremely good movies he does
@@Blazingfireball977 Lol no.
He should first make a truly scary movie, not cheap Jumpscares, if he can direct pure cosmic horror then he's should be considered. Aquaman was so bad and his horror movies are good, but his focus is not so on the Alien.
@@aa-to6ws May I ask why you dislike his aquaman movie? A lot of people seemed to enjoy it including me & my dad, so I'm curious as to why you feel it's a bad film
Could you do the Engineers? Their culture, caste system, religion, architecture, and technology?
The Engineers are lame.
@@filasophies4423 only because we no very little :)
@@AlbertusSalvatierra Not really, they are like evolved non earth humans that traveled the cosmos looking for planets that could support their DNA so as to spread themselves. Ridley Scott went off on an Ancient Aliens kick and decided to incorporate that into Alien thinking that he’s the arbiter of the franchise and can just create the lore but the problem is he’s not Dan O’Bannon. As we can see Prometheus is just a reboot of O’Bannon’s discarded Starbeast ideas mixed with Spaihts ideas only made mysterious by Lindloff removing all the explanation material. Don’t even get me started on the hot mess that was Covenant.
@@filasophies4423
But what you said still doesn’t explain them. There’s so much we don’t know.
How did they come to be, why the worship the Deacon, how their technology works- their hierarchy and etc
I personally love Prometheus and the idea they were going for - but I wish Covenant didn’t have any aliens. I’m way more interested in David and the Engineers.
Oh shit I was listening to this to fall asleep and just realized it was posted 16 minutes ago
The line «Oh. My. God.» sounds like one way to utter the phrase I wouldn’t utilize in a situation where I just learned that in six hours I’ll suffocate in space.
I’m sad this version didn’t use the ending where the creature in a final horrifying twist sneaks up behind Ripley/Roby leaving her log and bites her fucking head off mid sentence and finishes it in her voice.
That would have solidified ALIEN as the greatest horror movie of any kind.
Can I find this scene?
And starts dancing with maracas
@@rivalsplay3618 As far as I can tell it was never filmed, it was just something that existed on a page. But I’ve been trying really hard to find the draft that contains it. Alternate screenplay drafts are available online, but you have to know where to look.
@@PaladinOfNerds they cut it to repley being in the cryo pod
Bro thanks for these amazing videos . It's apparent how much love and effort you put into creating them
I appreciate that!
Dan O'bannon and H.R giger are the true creators of alien
This is a great channel. Instantly subscribed. Absolutely love this content, definitely my favorite. RIP to the greatest artist ever, HR GIGER.
The script of this comic sounds like what became Prometheus all those years later. Finding the unnatural "mountain" with straight lines, finding the alien in the chair, found jars and creature jumps up to bite one of them...
So awesome, love the channel man!
THIS VIDEO IS WELL DONE. GREAT JOB.
Fascinating video I really enjoyed it!!! The Space Jockey is so cool looking...I've always wondered about their orgins...
Not even a mention of It: The Terror from Beyond Space, Planet of the Vampires, or Voyage of the Space Beagle.
I just went through it. A lot of plot points from Alien were completed by the info in the comic.
So the woman took the head of the Star Beast to show as proof that aliens exist, why does taking the head sound like a bad idea?
its almost how prometheous ends. Alllmost like it was some sort of intention
I have this!! As well as the Alien 3 screenplay I can't wait to read them when I set aside time.
The Space Jockey from Alien and the original Time Machine (1960) chair are my 2 personal favorite movie props of all time.
Man this video is awesome! New sub! New fan! Like everything the narration the editing! So cool! Love aliens and to find somebody so passionate like yourself is amazing! Big love! Good vibes! Wish you the best! Keep up the good work!
The real meaning of “space jockey” blew my mind. It makes so much more sense now.
You could talk about Planet of the Vampires (film) from the 60's in regards to Alien. As it seems alien was inspired directly from it.
Awesome video, very informative!
The alien looks pretty amazing. Thanks for the video
I love the designs for everything in this
I like the design of the xenomorph and space jokey by the artist ron cobb and also i love when giger draw daw his version with his gothic style...
Great video!
The brilliant sci-fi artist, Chris Foss, was also involved in the movie development for a while. I have The Book of Alien (Scanlon, Gross) from 1979. It was nice to see lots of ideas dropped from the first movie pop up in Prometheus (spacesheet design and pyramid) and Covenant ('engineer' architecure), even though the movies were a little disappointing.
I read Starbeast years ago, and the thing I remember the most was Standard's line, when Roby wanted to rescue him, was, "It's eaten too much of me." I wish Scott had put that line in for Dallas.
It's cool how a lot of the aspects we missed out on in Alien we got to see in Prometheus. I see a lot of hate for that movie but I think it's pretty great. I liked Alien: Covenant, too. Really really cool tie-ups for the whole concept of the space jockeys.
The most underrated comments.. the way it was started it was literally liked Prometheus without actually alien... Similar storyline ( I said almost) even the suit looks liked as Prometheus..
@Brian Babin I suppose it’s a matter of opinion. Both of them were closer in writing to more modern sci-fi, which is why they didn’t have the same feel as their four predecessors. If you look past that they really aren’t bad. The one *I* didn’t like was Alien: Resurrection. That one made little sense and tbh I would’ve been happy without it.
I can't enjoy Alien Covenant because it removes all the mystery and wonder of the Xenomorph when the movie reveals it was created by a rogue android from Earth.
Back in the first Alien movie, our imagination could run wild on the origins of the creature. The universe was large enough to think it could have come from somewhere out there, but Alien Covenant makes that universe seem so much... smaller now.
@Brian Babin I actually heard there were some plans to redux the series starting after Aliens, rewriting it or something. Could be cool. I kinda agree too, Alien 3 was a moderately cool movie but also made the events of Aliens seem pointless to so idk
Prometheus and covenant were good but the scientists werent good and werent believable… that ruined the movies for me
Great video, cool info. I love Alien lore.
No you don't
This alien was alot cooler than the movie one! :O
Thanks for this video!
Is it just me or every story is kind of the same?
-Crew awoken by a distress signal
-They're far away from their destination and can't contact anyone
-they explore the planet WITHOUT precautions
-some members gets cut off from coms
-Eggs open up and fucks one crew mate
-then chaos ensues
Shouldn't they have plans for these kind of shit even if they haven't made first contact (technically since all the people that had made contact died)
You can change all that.
Smoking Beetles I'd love to. But I'm not a writer just a complainer lol
I've got to say I really like the idea of it being fused to the seat more now, it's like the Space Jockey is fully committed to it's singular mission; all the way to the point it's willing to incubate the 1st Alien to deliver it's deadly cargo to whatever it's sent to exterminate. It gives it a kind of alien-kamikaze pilot on a " become death: destroyer of worlds" scale.
it's infinitely creepier now that i know all this when I never even gave it a second thought before, good video!
It carry’s the same weight.. glueing yourself to a seat or standing over a water fall drinking poison to sacrifice yourself for a cause that you were born into the being was still dedicated to the cause
Weird. I was watching your alien video last night and this showed up in my notifications.
@Lucifer Black I don't drive yet.
I can’t lie man, I’m just here from you commenting on loads of UFC videos... it worked lol
A cargo ship named "Snark" ?
Captain Standard ?
You must be joking .
It always fascinating to see the creative process at work. How it started to how it finished.
Design and art style wise, this comic looks way too modern and too similar to prometheus and covenant
Same problem with that _Star Wars_ rough draft adaptation Dark Horse released years ago.
At first I liked that they based the hieroglyphics on the ones in _Prometheus,_ but then in the scene where they're supposed to be seeing different stages of the alien life-cycle in the glyphs, they just ignore the fact that the very simple shapes of the _Prometheus_ characters don't work for that at all.
but less interesting or much more boring
That's a lot of aliens stories I've ever watch.
12:53 Cat: Aight imma head out.
Got these (and some Aliens, Predator, and Aliens vs. Predator trade paperbacks) in the mail from my pal yesterday. Read all of them in one go. Great fun, very nifty!
I love the original Alien and the 1986 Aliens film. I think the lore of a unique creature found nowhere else in the universe was the best storyline. I also like the idea that the alien picks up abilities from the host and passes it onto the next iteration. My theory is the Space Jockey was an explorer from millions of years ago. He found some alien eggs from an unknown (to us) location. He picked up a sample of the egg and continued on his exploration trip. The egg opened up and attached to the Space Jockey's face causing the Derelict Ship to crash. After impregnating the Space Jockey, the face hugger fell off. Knowing he was going to die soon, the Space Jockey send out a repeated warning signal. The alien that eventually popped out of the Space Jockey was a Queen that now possessed many abilities that the Space Jockey species had. The Queen modified an area in the crashed Derelict Ship to support her eggs. Over the duration of millions of years, the race of Space Jockey had died out. So the eggs laid on the Derelict Ship were now unique to the universe and cannot be reproduced elsewhere. Once the Alien were hosted by humans, it picked up additional traits that belonged to humans. So there might still be Alien eggs elsewhere in the universe but they do not possess any of the traits from the Space Jockey (which is what made them so powerful and deadly).
This is dope
shouldn't have looked at that egg, it was too wet.
If science-fiction has taught us 1 thing, when you encounter a derelict ship, NEVER go onboard.
this version is really very close to the one we know! It seems to me that very few details have changed since then, like the names of the characters! I would probably like this version too. What interests me is using the Pyramid concept and the hyerogliphs later used in Prometheus, which recycles much of Giger's unused material. And a different concept for the monster and the pilot... Thanks for this video!
Hold up, Disney owns this sci fi now? Why am I just now hearing about this!!
The Canon is amazing. There's so much to be pulled from the books for movies.
What in the Hell could DISNEY and MARVEL do with the franchise!? They would only ruin it more than Ridley Scott has already ruined his own series!!
I have no idea what Ridley was thinking with Prometheus.
The whole concept was cool, but the way those "scientists" acted on a alien planet with potential dangerous pathogens was stupid.
It was a pretty film though imo
@@zk116 Pretty it was, but the problem with Ridley Scott, as of late, is that lately in his films he seems to be trying to find the meaning of life. Unfortunately he also brought that into the Alien franchise and this existential search for meaning is not scary at all! Ash's final nihilistic discourse in the original film was pretty scary, but that's because it was as cold and heartless as both the Creature and the Void of Space (where no one can hear you scream).
Ridley Scott directed some of those movies he did not write them he directed them; get it right people!!
Great breakdown of the original screenplay and the comic of this one. I read it in a day and was satisfied with the results but I would have loved the original rumored ending of the star beast biting the Ripley character's head off.
Although the idea of the original screenplay, also seen in the dark horse comic adaptation, is interesting of the Alien either being part of a different civilization than the space jockey or indigenous to it, I like with what they went in the end since (if they had stayed with the first ideas) it would have seemed too similar to one of Alien's predecessor, the planet of the vampires (good movie too by the way).
The way the pyramid was drawn and explored (briefly) in the comics was neat. It opens up a whole lot of questions regarding the Alien itself. Perhaps this civilization worshiped it, tried to recreate it or who knows, used it as part of a ritual.
Could you imagine being alive but knowing and saying "...it's eaten too much of me.." so matter-of-factly? Chilling.
Fascinating.👍
Big Fan of the Lore. Hope a Film is made.
BTW. What's the deal with cats on the screen? Space Mice? LOL 🐁
Its interesting to see parts of that original script reappear in Prometheus.
The Alien looks like the creatures from "Pitch Black".
It goes to show that the changes that the would be thieves David Giler and Walter Hill did to O'Bannon's original script that ended on the film were small. They changed the names, added Ash and the company, removed the pyramid but everything else stayed the same. They had tried to steal creator rights from him because of these small changes and they were unsuccessful, though I do admit that the changes were good, but did not alter much of O'Bannon's story at all. On another note, it also closes the stupid idea that the Alien was using "egg morphing" with Dallas and Brett, when in fact all it was doing was eating and storing the crew as food. Dallas was not impregnated, it was being eaten alive and even the actors had confirmed it in interviews at the time of the film. Only fans speculated it was "egg morphing" and it began Ridley Scott then repeating that as well as the supposed "rape" of Lambert by the Alien, when it fact the Alien tore her apart alive trying to pull her through a nearby vent and she couldn't fit.
One criticism I have on the comic's art is that the human characters don't feel right as the crew of a tug space ship, they look to clean and perfect. Maybe I am being biased on the film's interpretation, but O'Bannon too had a vision that space was not clean nor glamorous and the basic look of the film was a clear interpretation of that, since it was described by him. Also they characters are too fit and muscular for being a mundane crew of Tug Jockeys as also described in O'Bannon's story writings. And my final critique is that O'Bannon was inspired by Lovecraft's novels and H.R. Giger's art when they met and worked on the failed Jodorowski's DUNE movie project. He said that after he returned from that, he was inspired to write what he called a "Giger Monster Film" and this can be corroborated on vid interviews found on YT and multiple articles online with O'Bannon saying it himself as well as everything else I said.
The egg morphing stuff is a brilliant idea. What do you dislike about it?
@@walterhoward5512 A bit of inconsistency about the Alien's reproductive cycle. For a creature that needs hosts to procreate, using dead or dying hosts is not viable because the Facehuggers are the basic ambulatory sexual organs of the Alien itself. Now, for the Alien to at least being able to lay ONE egg and then impregnate another one host, it makes more sense that the cocoons in this case are more as a food supply for the intended new born. And granted that ALIEN's story was also inspired by the original THE THING novel, it takes away the concept of what O'Bannon intended for his triggers of Phobia, particularly the attack on sexuality and the such. The egg morphing is just that, another already made idea about the people turning into the monster seen in older movies, while at the time, the Facehugger itself was scary on many levels due to basically being an interspecies space rapist LOL and that is scarier.
@@walterhoward5512 And just to be clear, it is not that I hate it per se, but I do not like it for ALIEN. On itself it is ok, repeated, but ok.
@@EternalRoman Fair enough. We will have to agree to disagree.
@@walterhoward5512 Sir, you have my greatest respect, and I really mean it. Keep on being so awesome.
Dan O Bannon never got the acclaim he so richly deserved. If he had only ever played "Pinback" in John Carpenter's debut masterpiece "Dark Star" (which was really John Carpenter's film school finals project) that on its own would have been enough for one lifetime, if you haven't viewed "Dark Star" yet do yourself a favour if only to familiarise yourself with this usually hidden cultural ICON. The guy was a genius ❤️By the way, Hollywood, please don't even think about a remake. If it ain't bust ....
Wow looks like prometheus going into aliens.
is anyone gonna tell him?
@@uuncoolguy6 That ridley used all the bits he had to cut out originally to create Prometheus. Nah.
It's almost like it's some kind of "Planet" of "Vampires"!
Script 17 from prometheus was a trip to read. Considering they used like script 32 and it had literally less than half of what 17 had I'd say try reading that one.
I love how a giant pyramid made from large polished stones was made by a "pre-technological culture".
21:15 interesting drawing with great shadows--very Mike Mignola-esque.
Love anything Alien❤ can u do the origins of the creatures of "Pitch Black"
Script writer walking along a beach eating chips... *Seagulls intensify*
Wow. This is interesting. 👽
Very!
if you like this check out the comic for the original Star Wars screenplay, also by Dark Horse comics. Its fascinating to see the changes that were made.
I like it a lot👍
very interesting.
The original monster is from "Voyage of Space Beagle" by A. E. van Vogt. There are later contributions of O'Bannon, Giger and others, of course, but the start was made way back.
I was wonder if you'll do a the same thing to the original script of STAR WARS ☺
hmm. 🤔
Ridley Scott saw a painting that HR GIGER had painted in 1976. That's why the alien looked like it did in the first Alien movie ! The rest is history . GIGER FOREVER !!!!
I thought "jockey" was another word for horse rider you know, those guys who do races, always gave me the idea that the crew refered to the dead alien as an explorer or adventurer.
This was interesting.
Nice 🙂
Space Jocky: hello humans. 🖖🏾
Everyone Else: "I Am Grooooottt"!!!
Perfect😀.
Thank you! Cheers!
Those things in the thumbnail should have been in the prequel films, much more scary than the humanoids.
...more like cliched looking. Many Star Wars beings look overtly odd as those supposed original space jockey with...pointy heads? Lol. The jockey in the movie is much more sensibly designed, & gladly that made it so iconic as an origin movie.
before I keep watching the video a thumbs up for giving references and mentioning where/how/what find the source material. I'm not saying this as a accademic fetish, rather especially when it comes to comics or art I am always interested in finding all the material myself (if i like etc) and because it appears as boring or counter productive to creating atmosphere. I myself have tried voicing comics i felt for and ended up just leaving the titles page at start and getting right into the 'story'. high 5
kinda looks like ridley read this to, a lot of similarities for Prometheus
That was a very very amazing comic it has the exact same plot of the xenomorph. I like how the creature looks like a miniature version of the alien queen. The only difference is there is no android preventing the crew from killing the alien