This track was pretty slick, so this method was super useful. Taking advantage of this strategy will depend on the kart and track conditions. If you're drifting, you're rotating too much!
Yes, some places have too much grip or the karts don't have enough power. (like k1 speed) You can still use this method to slighly rotate it which can get you a few tenths.
@@ActuallyVen I learnt a method of going very deep with full speed into a corner,send it into the middle,then just hit 100% brake and lock the rear,let the rear slide out,turn the kart sideways then finally quickly apply throttle again to exit.(works with weak karts)
Depending on your definition of drift, then yeah. Sainz used an intermediate of grip and drift, only letting the wheels slip a tiny amount to change angle like drifting but retaining grip to maintain speed. From what I've seen, F1, Indy, and IMSA drivers use this kind of technique.
@alexfrye8542 power sliding is yanking on the e-brake and sliding without meaningful steering. Aka the teen in the Walmart parking lot in his 99 accord trying to drift.
@leonelpadilla8484 no. Hes over rotated om every turn. Understeer is usually front tires losing traction, oversteer is usually going to be the rear. USUALLY.
@@Samos900 He literally said “by applying the throttle, you can get the cart to turn without having to use the steering wheel” then went on to say “use the steering wheel to start the turn…” I do get his point though and was just making a joke at the end of the day.
@@domotime19 you are correct. He said "turn kart without turning the steering wheel". What he means is "turn kart with MINIMAL turning of the steering wheel". This technique is very good, so I am glad to see this video, but I notice that many racing training videos exaggerate the wording in the very same way, because it attracts clicks. I will try this technique next chance I get. Can't wait. I clicked thumbs up.
It’s a hyperbole man. 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️Understand what he meant. Obviously you need the steering wheel to turn, however since the normal intention would be to use the steering wheel alone, he used that saying to imply that you should only slightly use the steering wheel with this technique
Yeah I was there thinking why didn't he just say drift, he had my brain thinking these guys are some how pussing their feet onto the track like some Flintstone
@@Kevin_Knox What? They do work with every single 4 wheeled vehicle. It's the same concept. You can't look at some corners on Monaco and tell me they can't do it. They can and have been since the beginning of time.
@@candle_eatistidk man. Carts are waaay smaller and have far less weight. Plus with little gear/hp output, far less G force pushing you further into the cockpit, yeah there's no wonder you'd be able to send it. It's not about what can be done, but what is able to be done. What I'm basically saying is, a Cart isn't on the same level an full fledge F1, principals can be applied, only to such a degree. And the same can be said the other way around too.
the quickest way to drive rentals is to not throttle oversteer, but to come hot at the entries, steer quick to engage the rotation and fight to not oversteer too much, especially at the apex and exit where you need smoothness
@@vnc.tThere’s a place I go to that’s only for go karts and some other fun things, not like arcade go karts. Theirs are actually fast and have some power, I figured out how to drift and I was having a lot of fun. They didn’t tell me to stop and I got really good at it, it was awesome.
is that the english original phrase? in spanish dub it was something like "if you turn hard to the left you are going to the right" which doesn't have any sense
Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless.😊😊😊😊
Stopped going to k1 after getting told not to do what I'm doing. I'm like nigga, I'm trying to learn how properly corner, isn't that what you're supposed to do here?
@@Theone817 As a rental kart addict, I can say that this tactic is not necessarily correct for all kart types and tracks. I have set a bunch of track records in CA, OR, VA and NC racing against track employees after hours, and I never drift. In tight inside tracks, you have to let off the gas going into the corner with enough speed get your inside rear tire to off the ground and steer with the front tires, rolling onto the gas as you pass the apex of the turn.
@Thunderwv "They only invite true masters in to race after hours. When I finished my lap, all the staff lined up and bowed, and called me Sensai." - this guy.
@@llamamusicchannel7688but it aint drifting more like being over the grip limit by a very fine margin so you can rotate your car/cart and be earlier on throttle at corner exit
Yes, but also drifting in this way is only really used in offroad and kart racing because of the way the vehicle is set up and in the case of offroad, the surfaces as well. These sports are prone to understeer and REQUIRE drift to go fastest, whereas in a lot of types of racing, drifting will actually make you slower. It's a completely different skill set really.
Lift, brake, turn. It's less of a sliding motion but more about shifting the weight of the car/kart onto the front tires. If you don't use the brakes, you add more angle, wearing down the fronts. Drivers usually alternate driving methods to prevent uneven tire degradation. This method is seen less in F1, since the aero on the cars is tuned to load the fronts, which is why drivers mess with brake balance so much during qualifying. This technique is the most important skill for driving rally, since high steering angle in the fronts make them dig into gravel, creating a lot of drag and a very inefficient use of energy as you head into a corner. Most of the time in rally, turning into a corner should feel like you're not even turning. Brake more to turn more. Super cool nuance and something that most track racers don't understand until they drive on dirt.
1. That’s an indoor track, so there’s naturally less grip 2. Rental karts will struggle to get rotation by applying throttle 3. You’d be better off braking right up until the apex for optimal rotation, leveraging weight transfer to get some more grip on those front tyres.
The revs don't matter as much as you think. Most people over brake. They brake while still going into and they the turn. You brake BEFORE the turn then gas it going into and thru the turn! It makes a HUGEE difference! I think that's the point you are starting to get at with your #3 but it's more than just braking.
@@jacobviator3118 yeah, many people do over-brake when trying to get the kart to rotate, so it’s about finding that balance really. with 2 and 3, the point I was trying to make was that using the throttle through the turn will usually create understeer on these karts, as it brings the weight off the front wheels and onto the back wheels. I find for me, turning while still under braking really prevents understeer (especially on turn in) as it puts more weight on the front tyres. Of course it doesn’t work for every corner, and there are some times where you may want to apply throttle during the corner, but imo you shouldnt really be accelerating until after the apex in most places. I’m not an expert though, just some guy on the internet haha.
All of the "rental" tracks I've been on, you just keep it floored the whole way around the track, and whoever's governor kicked in at the highest rpm would win. I hate those things!
@@billymanilli how fast are your rental karts? In usual adult rental karts you can get up to over 40mph, no way you can do every corner flat out in that.
Yeah he's trying to explain that you should use slip angle by lightly drifting and minimise countersteering. If he just said that you should drift then people would counter steer alot which slows you down compared to using slip angle.
@@vuurwerkcrewbelgie If I do or don’t, doesn’t make a difference because this video is about carts and therefore my “joke” in reference to this video, so your speculation is out of place.
Concept applies in WRC as well. Whatever the angle of the upcoming corner, tip the vehicle toward that angle of severity on approach, add to it using the accelerator to oversteer the vehicle. That's the smoothest, most efficient way to take corners and I do it daily as a delivery driver - fast and efficient but also not breaking the customer's products.
Must have learned that from his Father then. 2 time Rally World Champion Carlos Sainz Sr. Not to mention the very close runner up spot to the late great fellow Scotsman Colin McRae in 1995🙏🏴
It's not drifting this is neutral steering, neutral cause look at the steering angle, it's barely turned. Drifting you're inducing oversteer and countering that with the steering wheel etc.
@@NuyoricanJoseph just because the wheels are sliding doesn't mean it's oversteering etc. Wheels slide in neutral and understeer conditions too dude. The technical details of the 3 conditions isn't that hard to understand man just go use the Internet to learn something (like this). He even mentions in the video look how little the steering wheel is turned, it's turned just a little bit and then is in neutral input state yet the karts sliding. This is neutral steering.
@@cecilracing53however in karting is nessesary. The rear axle is one piece therefore the rear wheels will always spin at the same speed. So when going round a corner at least one of your tyres are going to be slipping.
@@nekomorph17 Yeah, because you're actually drifting in Mario Kart. That isn't what's happening in this video though. There is a huge difference between the two.
It's not just the throttle. It's many things. The camber on the front kingpins is designed to 'jack' the inside rear wheel up (like a differential effect). Also, you can 'flick' the kart sideways on the brake by 'over-turning' the steering. Watch the karting greats, Terry Fullerton, Senna and Mike Wilson. They all use that to great effect. At my local indoor track, there is a banked hairpin. I momentarily put the steering on full lock, so the front wheels act as a brake, and it pitches the kart into the corner, then balance the exit on the throttle.
I did this the first time I got into a kart, because it felt natural and cool to do. I got banned from the place. Keep that in mind when going to rental places, they don't like you doing this.
Did you explain to them that you were a complete kart racing noob that had never raced on a kart before and you didn't know the proper etiquette? That's like being banned for button mashing in mario kart !
You are absolutely right. I went to K-1 speedway and was fucking blasting past everyone drifting corners like this. All the workers were staring at me the entire time. My first ride was my last. They gave me the boot. Lmao.
Only works under certain conditions, but for most of the time, the static friction of the tires will always supercede kinetic friction, ie: non sliding tires have more grip, and produce greater lateral g's and better cornering times
I like how you said you gain so much time to the car ahead to someone missing the apex entirely and even then is also oversteering and started accelerating way earlier than you could have.
For people who want to understand more, when your in a turn one rear wheel is getting more grip than the other, when you have that grip bias hitting the throttle is effectively like being pushed forward from only that rear corner thus letting you throttle steer through turns. This same effect is why most people spin out on ice while trying to drive because they dont understand whats happening and adjust to the loss of grip on one side.
Optionally, you can jump and hold R while steering opposite to the corner, then in the same direction. Three times until your car smoke is purplish, then release R when exiting the corner.
@@elliswilliams1050yes except induced oversteer without correction. If you have to counter steer you are going to hard, if you are just rolling the body weight around the turn on the very edge of the tires grip then you are at the slip angle.
I watched a few of my best hot laps in GT7 and there is very little steering angle. It’s so cool to see because obviously there was a lot of effort and millions of inputs from my POV, but the replay shows the car dancing around each apex. One of the best feelings.
two really important things to point out: #1: Sainz was running a KZ indoors, indoor tracks have a much slippery surfice, what you are seeing is drifting more than anything. #2: this can sometimes work because you compensate the steering angle by using throtle to keep the kart straight, and in the "here is what that looks like" part the other driver clearly went wide lol
Yeah exactly. You definitely still use your brakes but not like this. You don't see F1 drivers turn the wheel much because they have mostly full lock at ~90-100 degrees so they don't cross over at high speed. Use your brakes to shift weight of the car further forward in a corner providing more front wheel grip and stopping oversteer. Try it if you ever experience understeer, or if your racing (although do it sooner) Tapping the brakes (tapping hard enough to move the weight forward) either just as you turn in (or when you experience extreme oversteer)
Just as rear starts to break loose steer towards the exit of the turn and accelerate out of the turn. You start the skid then power out of it. Wont make every car fast but will make every car faster when mastered.
Very true but you sacrifice fuel and tire tread this way. However when dealing with other drivers of this caliber, its about who does it best and doesnt need too many pit stops. It's a very fine line! That's why I love racing, so many variables. You pick the right ones to focus on and you're King!
Speaking of variables... if you're sending it just right and using the right amount of throttle to negate understeer without kicking the ass out to much you'll exit the corner much faster right? Which means you're using less fuel getting back up to speed because you're already faster. It's just as much about how smooth you are
@bradgrant1899 no your still using more fuel. It's all about time on throttle for a given lap. The good ones just know how to drive the car without loosing as much time when "saving fuel" as others.
@@bradgrant1899it depends on how long the race is and how many times you get to change tires and fuel up and all that. If it's a short sprint, which it most likely will be, yes this is the best way to go around a track the fastest, 100% agree. But a long endurance race, absolutely not. It's really not specified in this video, and I think it should be at least very briefly. Part of proper racing is knowing the rules and limits of the parts on your car. Like when Dale Earnhardt was like 8 or 9 laps ahead of everyone, but he ran out of gas with 3 laps left... If you are running 3 or 5 laps, that isn't a variable. Tires aren't a variable, etc..
Not always true. Depends on track surface, weather, track temps, tire and brake temps too. Sometimes just using your brakes before the turn and coasting through is your best option because you won’t be dragging or plowing the tire throughout the turn. As well as your racing line dictates how you’re going to need to use your combination of controls.
As much as I love drifting, by in large, it is the slowest way around a track. Carts on a slick track is its own thing, but downforce, proper breaking and taking an apex properly is the best way around the track. I was an engineer for Flying Lizard.
I went to a track and set their all time record for both 60cc and 298cc. The truck is to not even use your brakes. Or even if you have to. Do it when you’re just about to turn. Get all your weight shifted to the front. Always keep that throttle pinned.
It’s the exact opposite. In a Kart you use the brakes to rotate. You push them as hard as possible making the rear step out a little which gives it rotation. As explained by a little guy called Michael Schumacher
Depends on track and kart, in a TaG or single speed you have to because they are rear brakes only, in a KZ or shifter you have 4 wheel brakes so it’s not really necessary, and making sure the kart is around the corner as you roll onto the gas really shoots it out the best
On public roads things arent as sliding but the air contained between the road and the drive frame as that is within the tyre along with the units aerodynamic surfaces allows for a lesser but just as effective driving technique. Slow or fast, front wheel drive, rear, or all, the correographical techniques still apply in varying intensitys.
Its a racing variant of drifting. The theory is that there's a certain angle that you can achieve to angle the car toward the exit of the turn and still maximize a level of grip to keep pushing yourself forward and lose minimal speed. This is a long and roundabout way to introduce you to what touge and racing drivers call "Slip Angle" drifting.
I’m saying😂. I thought I was the only one. They smack that sign down against the counter hella hard when you do that😂. For me I see the brake before corners one in place of the one you mentioned.
This really does depend on your kart and track conditions, but mostly kart. This is power sliding, your using the engine to steer way more than your using the steering wheel, you basiclly line the kart up with steering and then power on to make corner. Very intresting, havent done this in years, makes me want to get out there again. Lol 👍🏼
My problem with all the rental karts I've ever used is they are either so damaged and screwed up, or so slow, that I couldn't even try this if I wanted to...
If you find that entertaining, you should watch "Lewis Hamilton wins the Elf Masters final 2000, Paris Bercy". He's a kid here and destroys the field, building a huge gap, its insane.
What is fascinating, is that during Top Gear, they acknowledged that F1 drivers took their course differently than the other racing drivers. Made me wonder what system Jackie Stewart taught James May.
You're shifting the weight of the car from the back to the front. You can also do this by quickly tapping the brake as you start the turn. It helps in daily driving too :)
Bro its crazy how few people do this. I grew up on racing video games and self taught myself how to drive. That's how i take all corners and it frustrates me seeing people slow down in the turn instead of before the turn. Slow down then accelerate. So much more control.
@LM77va I race at the track every Saturday night (round track latemodels) (2 championships) & Busa at the dragstrip (1/8mile track) (6wally's) (490's) when time allows all this shit is just funny to me I guess idk 🤷♂️
I did pro-am go kart racing earlier in my life. I can tell you this, while slip angle is a good method, don’t do it on every turn. Simple reason: if youre sideways, you’re not going straight, and straight is fastest. With that mind, if the turn isn’t sharpe enough, no need to do it. Sainz was going thru sharpe apex’s, that why he did it. You really didn’t need to do it on those first few turns
Definitely only something you would ever do in a go-kart. That is an excellent way to tear your tires to shreds as well as heating them up to the point of no grip.
This track was pretty slick, so this method was super useful. Taking advantage of this strategy will depend on the kart and track conditions. If you're drifting, you're rotating too much!
Went to DKC yesterday
It was really dusty
Specifically for karting. There is a limit in power where the track conditions aren’t nada
Holy shit lol I thought I recognized the track, I’ve been there before. They apparently put a sealant on the track which sucks, loved the track though
Yeah, 100% not drifting, but a balance on the edge of grip.
Most rental carts don’t have the revs for this.
Yes, some places have too much grip or the karts don't have enough power. (like k1 speed) You can still use this method to slighly rotate it which can get you a few tenths.
@@ActuallyVen
I learnt a method of going very deep with full speed into a corner,send it into the middle,then just hit 100% brake and lock the rear,let the rear slide out,turn the kart sideways then finally quickly apply throttle again to exit.(works with weak karts)
@@initialdoge8528That works to slide, but it doesn't gain you any time because of how much it slows the kart.
@@SGBass
I used that for a sharp left,then a right curve xD
You can start the slide while breaking
“Steer with your feet” is an interesting way to say “drifting”
Depending on your definition of drift, then yeah. Sainz used an intermediate of grip and drift, only letting the wheels slip a tiny amount to change angle like drifting but retaining grip to maintain speed. From what I've seen, F1, Indy, and IMSA drivers use this kind of technique.
Except this is a power slide
@alexfrye8542 power sliding is yanking on the e-brake and sliding without meaningful steering. Aka the teen in the Walmart parking lot in his 99 accord trying to drift.
@alexfrye8542 except this is drifting.
What are the feet doing?
How to fix understeer?
*tokyo drift starts playing*
"OVERSTEER BABBYYYYYYY"
If you look he's actually using understeer when going through the turns.
Because drifting around a track is faster then keeping traction And staying on the fastest track line. Says no professional driver.
@leonelpadilla8484 no. Hes over rotated om every turn. Understeer is usually front tires losing traction, oversteer is usually going to be the rear. USUALLY.
Underrated comment 👏
underrated comment
My guy, steer with feet is drifting that went to private school
Damn watching Carlos smoke that track really does show the difference in skill between your average enthusiast and a certified pro
That track is on need for speed on ps2, was the best drift game back in the day
It also shows the difference between a super high performance kart and the typical family fun center kart more than anything 😂
Top Gear used to show this.
Then BBC dropped the ball
Yes you are right.
We can see the difference between a pro and the random neck best commentating.
That’s what I noticed too holy shit he’s good
"if you're goin' hard enough left, you'll find yourself turnin' right."
*Lightning McQueen
Based cars reference
doc hudson reference
@@jsolis1331doc Hudson
K'chow
Rentals are underpowered af, you’ll never be doing that with those.
That was my thought. Never been on a rental that had power to spin the tires
depends on how much you weigh. back when I was light asf I could kinda do that in some rentals. definitely not now tho
At my local track they got 250cc with 14hp💀
Scandinavian flick
You got to look around it is rare but there are places that have go-karts that go over 100 miles an hour
“Let me show you how to steer without the steering wheel”
“First, steer the steering wheel..”
Actually he said if you’re not using your feet, which means use both the wheel and your feet
@@Samos900 He literally said “by applying the throttle, you can get the cart to turn without having to use the steering wheel” then went on to say “use the steering wheel to start the turn…”
I do get his point though and was just making a joke at the end of the day.
@@domotime19 you are correct. He said "turn kart without turning the steering wheel". What he means is "turn kart with MINIMAL turning of the steering wheel". This technique is very good, so I am glad to see this video, but I notice that many racing training videos exaggerate the wording in the very same way, because it attracts clicks. I will try this technique next chance I get. Can't wait. I clicked thumbs up.
technically, he isn't wrong. You only need the steering wheel to start the turn; after that you can turn with only your feet.
It’s a hyperbole man. 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️Understand what he meant. Obviously you need the steering wheel to turn, however since the normal intention would be to use the steering wheel alone, he used that saying to imply that you should only slightly use the steering wheel with this technique
Instructions unclear, i put my feet on my wheel and i stopped moving
😂😂😂 same here....
The man just called drifting "steering with your feet"
"Power oversteer" is what I learned it as 40 years ago.
Litterally came here to say this bro 😂😭 so flick your steering and shifting your weight, aka drifting on a cart
The video had me confused. There's only one gas pedal, right, so it's more like steering with your foot.
Looks like a powerslide
That's not drifting, it's controlled oversteer
Bro just described slight drifting/ power sliding😂
Right? "Drive with your feet" dumbest shit I ever heard
Yes, which doesn't work in Formula 1 cars lol. Once traction is lost, they just spin.
Yeah I was there thinking why didn't he just say drift, he had my brain thinking these guys are some how pussing their feet onto the track like some Flintstone
@@Kevin_Knox What? They do work with every single 4 wheeled vehicle. It's the same concept. You can't look at some corners on Monaco and tell me they can't do it. They can and have been since the beginning of time.
@@candle_eatistidk man. Carts are waaay smaller and have far less weight. Plus with little gear/hp output, far less G force pushing you further into the cockpit, yeah there's no wonder you'd be able to send it.
It's not about what can be done, but what is able to be done.
What I'm basically saying is, a Cart isn't on the same level an full fledge F1, principals can be applied, only to such a degree. And the same can be said the other way around too.
the quickest way to drive rentals is to not throttle oversteer, but to come hot at the entries, steer quick to engage the rotation and fight to not oversteer too much, especially at the apex and exit where you need smoothness
Similar in a front wheel drive car that's set up neutrally.
Bro took a minute to explain a much more fancier term of “drifting”
which is slower then actually turning normally
@@Icepressabut its fancier and sometimes can rescue you when u go to fast
That's not drifting. Drifting is a controlled skid. This is powering into the turn
no it cannot LOL learn to drive drifting is a controlled skid, when you go sliding out of a corner thats unintentional and uncontrolled@@SerkuXY
I'm not trusting someone who doesn't have the common sense to use a racing suit.
"If you don't steer with your feet, you're slow."
Me: proceeds to use steering wheel with feet.
@paradiseonheavenwhat does this even mean😭
@paradiseonheavenjokejokejokejokejoke
this method is so you can use your hands to paddle on the ground for extra speed
@@jacobbreitha4299 Yep, one foot on the throttle, one on the steering wheel and two hands on the ground to give an extra push.
these comments made my day
“Turn left to turn right” - doc hudson
Its turn right to go left
Get this man a 🍪
❤
Was thinking that
if you turn left you go left stupid
Bro literally gave free drifting sauce for an actual car as well☠️🙏🏾
I’ll put it simple if you’re going hard enough left, you’ll find yourself turning right.
-Doc Hudson
Goated comment
Pfft. Turning left to go right? That's understeer. Drifting is obviously oversteer. You don't know what you're talking about Tak.
- Itsuki Takeuchi
Donkey!
- Donkey from Shrek
almost got banned from rental karts for trying that while having no idea how to actually drift
@@vnc.tThere’s a place I go to that’s only for go karts and some other fun things, not like arcade go karts. Theirs are actually fast and have some power, I figured out how to drift and I was having a lot of fun. They didn’t tell me to stop and I got really good at it, it was awesome.
“If you're goin' hard enough left, you'll find yourself turnin' right”-Doc Hudson
is that the english original phrase? in spanish dub it was something like "if you turn hard to the left you are going to the right" which doesn't have any sense
@@julian10000it is the original. And the Spanish one directly translates to turn left and you'll turn right. Definitely doesn't make sense
@@julian10000It's an American phrase. We only turn left. -Uncle Nascar.
Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless.😊😊😊😊
@@Im_on_Tv_Lolit means the g forces that direct ur body towards right when u make a hard left
Rental Kart Employee: stop sliding!!!!!
Rental Kart Employee: ha you're 5sec slower than my time.
Rental kart employee:kart 24 is the quickest I’ll put you in that 😂
That level or treason is why we have trust issues... HAHAHAHAH@@Theone817
Stopped going to k1 after getting told not to do what I'm doing. I'm like nigga, I'm trying to learn how properly corner, isn't that what you're supposed to do here?
@@Theone817 As a rental kart addict, I can say that this tactic is not necessarily correct for all kart types and tracks. I have set a bunch of track records in CA, OR, VA and NC racing against track employees after hours, and I never drift. In tight inside tracks, you have to let off the gas going into the corner with enough speed get your inside rear tire to off the ground and steer with the front tires, rolling onto the gas as you pass the apex of the turn.
@Thunderwv "They only invite true masters in to race after hours. When I finished my lap, all the staff lined up and bowed, and called me Sensai." - this guy.
Sliding into a corner will always leave you at a slower entry speed for the straight. Sliding is for fun, Grip is for speed.
Sainz was channeling his dad's driving skill there. that cart clip was golden.
There use to be a competition when senna ,prost took part in a karting competition is it still going ,
That karting place where he did it is even named after his father, if Im not wrong
@@Kkntucara you're correct, Carlos Sainz Centre in Madrid, best track I've been to
His dad was one of the best rally drivers. So sad when he ran out of fuel and it cost him the championship.
"Turn right to go left"
~Doc. Hudson
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It’s “Doc” , he’s not a Doctor 🤦🏼♂️
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@@Hirohito-gy5eo bruh why
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bro really explained how slip angle drifting works...☠️
It used to be called accel-off drifting from Drift King Keiichi Tsuchiyas Drift Bible dvd
Ikr
Fr I was sitting here like "steering with his feet? Do you just mean drifting???"
@@llamamusicchannel7688but it aint drifting more like being over the grip limit by a very fine margin so you can rotate your car/cart and be earlier on throttle at corner exit
Yes
“Turn right to go left” ahh Doc Hudson moment 😭
Bro discovered drifting
nah drifting is ass this is art
@@juliannmnnnm drifting is ass? you know nothing so shut tf up
@@juliannmnnnm Art is boring, I like drifting
@@aehfoibyr2931 driving on the limit is so much more challenging
@@juliannmnnnm Ngga, this _is_ drifting.
bro gave a dictionary definition for "drifting"
Yes, but also drifting in this way is only really used in offroad and kart racing because of the way the vehicle is set up and in the case of offroad, the surfaces as well. These sports are prone to understeer and REQUIRE drift to go fastest, whereas in a lot of types of racing, drifting will actually make you slower. It's a completely different skill set really.
Drifting isn't the fastest way around a track. These karts might be different.
this is more so considered a power slide. not quite full on drift. similar appearance, massive difference in technique and application.
It's not drifting
since when attacking the corner with nice throthhle control to get traction consider drifting?
Instructions unclear, now I'm driving with my foot on the steering wheel and my hands on the pedals.
That's a sex position
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
😉
Same
Lift, brake, turn. It's less of a sliding motion but more about shifting the weight of the car/kart onto the front tires.
If you don't use the brakes, you add more angle, wearing down the fronts. Drivers usually alternate driving methods to prevent uneven tire degradation.
This method is seen less in F1, since the aero on the cars is tuned to load the fronts, which is why drivers mess with brake balance so much during qualifying.
This technique is the most important skill for driving rally, since high steering angle in the fronts make them dig into gravel, creating a lot of drag and a very inefficient use of energy as you head into a corner.
Most of the time in rally, turning into a corner should feel like you're not even turning. Brake more to turn more. Super cool nuance and something that most track racers don't understand until they drive on dirt.
1. That’s an indoor track, so there’s naturally less grip
2. Rental karts will struggle to get rotation by applying throttle
3. You’d be better off braking right up until the apex for optimal rotation, leveraging weight transfer to get some more grip on those front tyres.
The revs don't matter as much as you think. Most people over brake. They brake while still going into and they the turn. You brake BEFORE the turn then gas it going into and thru the turn! It makes a HUGEE difference! I think that's the point you are starting to get at with your #3 but it's more than just braking.
@@jacobviator3118 yeah, many people do over-brake when trying to get the kart to rotate, so it’s about finding that balance really. with 2 and 3, the point I was trying to make was that using the throttle through the turn will usually create understeer on these karts, as it brings the weight off the front wheels and onto the back wheels. I find for me, turning while still under braking really prevents understeer (especially on turn in) as it puts more weight on the front tyres. Of course it doesn’t work for every corner, and there are some times where you may want to apply throttle during the corner, but imo you shouldnt really be accelerating until after the apex in most places. I’m not an expert though, just some guy on the internet haha.
All of the "rental" tracks I've been on, you just keep it floored the whole way around the track, and whoever's governor kicked in at the highest rpm would win. I hate those things!
@@billymanilli how fast are your rental karts? In usual adult rental karts you can get up to over 40mph, no way you can do every corner flat out in that.
@@sonicsupersam7793we really can. 60-65kmph idk in miles but yes we do it flat out almost everywhere
Bro just explained drifting in a grippy way 😂😂😂😂
Yeah he's trying to explain that you should use slip angle by lightly drifting and minimise countersteering. If he just said that you should drift then people would counter steer alot which slows you down compared to using slip angle.
My thought exactly 😂
Carts are the definition of “turn right to go left”
Not always though... If you drove "loose" like this around the clay oval we race on, you'd be dead last in no time really quick.
It's the same with a motorcycle.
You dont drive a motorcycle do you
@@vuurwerkcrewbelgie If I do or don’t, doesn’t make a difference because this video is about carts and therefore my “joke” in reference to this video, so your speculation is out of place.
No it is not because motorcycles are the definition of "turn right to go left"
Warning. This only works when tire heat and wear are not a concern 😂
bro just gave the most complicated explanation for what drifting is😭
Slip angle really.
“Drifting” isn’t faster, utilizing a closer to ideal slip angle is
Funny that you comment this with such confidence 🤣
this isnt slip angle LMFAOOOOO@@fungdark8270
except its not, typical subi drivers talking out they ass again
Its not the same as drifting
RH: If you put too much throttle, at least you wont see the tree that kills you.
That's why I prefer oversteer!
Happened to a friend of mine, his brain stem was mashed by a steel support beam.
@@richardjones2811 Man hope hes ok
"you can see how much I gained to the kart ahead"
the kart ahead: worst race line possible, no idea what they're doing
Concept applies in WRC as well. Whatever the angle of the upcoming corner, tip the vehicle toward that angle of severity on approach, add to it using the accelerator to oversteer the vehicle. That's the smoothest, most efficient way to take corners and I do it daily as a delivery driver - fast and efficient but also not breaking the customer's products.
That carlos sainz clip was crazy. That wasn't carting that was rally
Must have learned that from his Father then. 2 time Rally World Champion Carlos Sainz Sr. Not to mention the very close runner up spot to the late great fellow Scotsman Colin McRae in 1995🙏🏴
Shifter kart at an indoor venue... tons of power to do anything you want.
It’s in his genes
@@125AXeryeah but that his own shifter cart.
@@125AXerdoesn’t mean that it’s easy
In a nut shell, you gotta drift through the corners😂
It's not drifting this is neutral steering, neutral cause look at the steering angle, it's barely turned. Drifting you're inducing oversteer and countering that with the steering wheel etc.
@@jamesmaddison4546Are the wheels sliding in the method shown in the video?
@@NuyoricanJoseph just because the wheels are sliding doesn't mean it's oversteering etc. Wheels slide in neutral and understeer conditions too dude. The technical details of the 3 conditions isn't that hard to understand man just go use the Internet to learn something (like this). He even mentions in the video look how little the steering wheel is turned, it's turned just a little bit and then is in neutral input state yet the karts sliding. This is neutral steering.
@@jamesmaddison4546yeah bud if your ass end is swinging and your tires are spinning your drifting not natural steering that's not a thing lol
@@jamesmaddison4546you don't have to oversteer to drift if you have to you might be doing it wrong
you can do this if the engine is powerful enough. here in Italy most rentals have 4-stroke lawnmower engines mounted on go-karts.
Imagine going go carting and unknowingly there’s a freaking formula 1 driver on the track with you. Life can be unfair.
why don´t you think that f1 drivers started with gokarts?
My brother beat Jenson Button's time at a rental kart track. Granted my brother does race in a local series.
@@japanesetoenglish that’s unfair to us mere mortals
How dare people be good at something
Why would it be unfair? Who cares about winning at fucking go karts lol.
That's all very well on a slippery indoor circuit, but typically the more grip you have, the faster you'll go by not breaking that grip.
True! Grip changes the driving style greatly.
Sliding is fun not fast
Facts
True..
Guy 1; "I caught that other car in 1 lap"'
Guy 2; "That's great, How did the rest of the race go?"
Guy 1; "He lapped me 10 laps later..."
@@cecilracing53however in karting is nessesary. The rear axle is one piece therefore the rear wheels will always spin at the same speed. So when going round a corner at least one of your tyres are going to be slipping.
"If you're going hard enough left, you'll find yourself turning right"
Okay CARS!!!
This is real drifitng!! I had the chance to see DK-san in person, and this is the way he drives
Bro just straight up taught us how to drift in real life like you would in Mario Kart
I thought in MK you just jump to oversteer.
@cocobos it works that way in real life too, but that's an advanced technique that few can pull off 😤😅
Not drifting.🤦♂️
This is called slip angle.
@@bradleyd6000 in Mario Kart, we call it drifting tho 🤙🏻
@@nekomorph17 Yeah, because you're actually drifting in Mario Kart. That isn't what's happening in this video though. There is a huge difference between the two.
Holy shit... I thought I was fast in a cart until that Sainz clip.
That indoor kart racetrack is owned by his dad, it is located outside Madrid.
He in a 60hp go kart so yea lol
It is sped up
@@TheMiddlest Carlos’s clip is not sped up
@@cecilracing53 It definitely is sped up in the video that Carlos uploaded, if you watch the Carlos video is very obvious.
Bruh... no wonder I could never beat top score in Karting.. even though my entry lines were great. Thanks for the tip 👌
It's not just the throttle. It's many things. The camber on the front kingpins is designed to 'jack' the inside rear wheel up (like a differential effect). Also, you can 'flick' the kart sideways on the brake by 'over-turning' the steering. Watch the karting greats, Terry Fullerton, Senna and Mike Wilson. They all use that to great effect. At my local indoor track, there is a banked hairpin. I momentarily put the steering on full lock, so the front wheels act as a brake, and it pitches the kart into the corner, then balance the exit on the throttle.
I did this the first time I got into a kart, because it felt natural and cool to do.
I got banned from the place. Keep that in mind when going to rental places, they don't like you doing this.
You got banned for being too fast lol
@tylersnow75 No because it fucks the tires. They aren't made to drift lol.
Did you explain to them that you were a complete kart racing noob that had never raced on a kart before and you didn't know the proper etiquette?
That's like being banned for button mashing in mario kart !
You are absolutely right. I went to K-1 speedway and was fucking blasting past everyone drifting corners like this. All the workers were staring at me the entire time. My first ride was my last. They gave me the boot. Lmao.
Yeah that and trail-braking are kickable offences at most places as it drastically wears the karts and their tyres out.
My dad taught me this when i was really young. It's one of my favorite memories with him. Thanks for the reminder
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
When you said “using his feet” I was about to lose mine, until you explained it.
Gotta hit L1 or L2 to power slide turn. Keep an eye on the boost meter for maximum performance. 👌
Only works under certain conditions, but for most of the time, the static friction of the tires will always supercede kinetic friction, ie: non sliding tires have more grip, and produce greater lateral g's and better cornering times
I like how you said you gain so much time to the car ahead to someone missing the apex entirely and even then is also oversteering and started accelerating way earlier than you could have.
My man just discovered what we all learned driving on gravel.
lol no doubt bro or icy road conditions
Slip angle (not as aggressive but faster in long corners) is what you could call this but mixed with controlled speedslide😂
The kart rental people tend to get pissed when you chew up their tyres like that.
For people who want to understand more, when your in a turn one rear wheel is getting more grip than the other, when you have that grip bias hitting the throttle is effectively like being pushed forward from only that rear corner thus letting you throttle steer through turns. This same effect is why most people spin out on ice while trying to drive because they dont understand whats happening and adjust to the loss of grip on one side.
or Trail braking :0
Imagine going to race some go karts with a party of friends, and this dude walks up all “you’re not steering with your feet dude☝️🤓”
Any decent track will have an employee that will give people advice like this
It’s like watching a mustang leave a car meet. They spin their car all the time without the steering wheel 😂
Optionally, you can jump and hold R while steering opposite to the corner, then in the same direction. Three times until your car smoke is purplish, then release R when exiting the corner.
And hold a Blue Shell Behind you for the first place player.
I'm high as hell I thought you were telling me to look at how your feet are stopping the cart Flintstones style Lmao
I wasn’t high and sober as a sunny day, but I thought about that leg acting like fulcrum to slingshot the kart.
🫠😶🌫️😂🤣
nice!
It’s called Slip Angle. Where you push the grip into the limit, it looks like low angle drifting but it’s not because twisted tyre patch in the rear..
This is exactly it. Intentionally induced oversteer.
I’m
Michael Schumacher perfected in F1.
It’s called a four wheel drift, slip angle is the name of the thing that happens to your tires while you do a four wheel drift
@@elliswilliams1050yes except induced oversteer without correction. If you have to counter steer you are going to hard, if you are just rolling the body weight around the turn on the very edge of the tires grip then you are at the slip angle.
I watched a few of my best hot laps in GT7 and there is very little steering angle. It’s so cool to see because obviously there was a lot of effort and millions of inputs from my POV, but the replay shows the car dancing around each apex. One of the best feelings.
Good advice until u get yelled at by the k1 speed employees for drifting. Lol
lmao worked at a similar place and can confirm.. of course when no one was watching we drifted them the hardest...
Thought you mean like actually stick your feet out on the side to hit the ground
I thought he meant using your knees to help steer maybe lol. This is a bad explanation to fill 40 seconds instead of just saying power sliding
two really important things to point out:
#1: Sainz was running a KZ indoors, indoor tracks have a much slippery surfice, what you are seeing is drifting more than anything.
#2: this can sometimes work because you compensate the steering angle by using throtle to keep the kart straight, and in the "here is what that looks like" part the other driver clearly went wide lol
Yeah exactly. You definitely still use your brakes but not like this.
You don't see F1 drivers turn the wheel much because they have mostly full lock at ~90-100 degrees so they don't cross over at high speed. Use your brakes to shift weight of the car further forward in a corner providing more front wheel grip and stopping oversteer.
Try it if you ever experience understeer, or if your racing (although do it sooner) Tapping the brakes (tapping hard enough to move the weight forward) either just as you turn in (or when you experience extreme oversteer)
Just as rear starts to break loose steer towards the exit of the turn and accelerate out of the turn.
You start the skid then power out of it.
Wont make every car fast but will make every car faster when mastered.
I found this out by applying what I learned from Mario Kart to the real track and just kinda stuck with it when it worked lol
Very true but you sacrifice fuel and tire tread this way. However when dealing with other drivers of this caliber, its about who does it best and doesnt need too many pit stops. It's a very fine line! That's why I love racing, so many variables. You pick the right ones to focus on and you're King!
Speaking of variables... if you're sending it just right and using the right amount of throttle to negate understeer without kicking the ass out to much you'll exit the corner much faster right? Which means you're using less fuel getting back up to speed because you're already faster. It's just as much about how smooth you are
@bradgrant1899 no your still using more fuel. It's all about time on throttle for a given lap. The good ones just know how to drive the car without loosing as much time when "saving fuel" as others.
@@bradgrant1899it depends on how long the race is and how many times you get to change tires and fuel up and all that. If it's a short sprint, which it most likely will be, yes this is the best way to go around a track the fastest, 100% agree. But a long endurance race, absolutely not. It's really not specified in this video, and I think it should be at least very briefly. Part of proper racing is knowing the rules and limits of the parts on your car. Like when Dale Earnhardt was like 8 or 9 laps ahead of everyone, but he ran out of gas with 3 laps left... If you are running 3 or 5 laps, that isn't a variable. Tires aren't a variable, etc..
Not always true. Depends on track surface, weather, track temps, tire and brake temps too. Sometimes just using your brakes before the turn and coasting through is your best option because you won’t be dragging or plowing the tire throughout the turn. As well as your racing line dictates how you’re going to need to use your combination of controls.
I was going to say the same thing, because he’s actually scrubbing off speed by sawing on the wheel.
Precisely. Just like driving your fastest car in the mountains like a gangsta.
As much as I love drifting, by in large, it is the slowest way around a track. Carts on a slick track is its own thing, but downforce, proper breaking and taking an apex properly is the best way around the track. I was an engineer for Flying Lizard.
Thanks for the tip. Ill use it next time i drive the Cart to work
Doesn’t work this is actually slow
"Here is how to steer with your feet..." proceeds to steer with hands.
That was the longest explanation of, "Accelerate through the turn." I've ever heard.
If YT Shorts didn’t exist this would have been a 10+ minutes video.
I went to a track and set their all time record for both 60cc and 298cc. The truck is to not even use your brakes. Or even if you have to. Do it when you’re just about to turn. Get all your weight shifted to the front. Always keep that throttle pinned.
Bro did the most to tell you to oversteer 😂
It’s the exact opposite. In a Kart you use the brakes to rotate. You push them as hard as possible making the rear step out a little which gives it rotation. As explained by a little guy called Michael Schumacher
Depends on track and kart, in a TaG or single speed you have to because they are rear brakes only, in a KZ or shifter you have 4 wheel brakes so it’s not really necessary, and making sure the kart is around the corner as you roll onto the gas really shoots it out the best
The Carlos Sainz has a big difference too considering it’s a shifter kart. shifter kart driving styles are wildly different than a normal style.
On public roads things arent as sliding but the air contained between the road and the drive frame as that is within the tyre along with the units aerodynamic surfaces allows for a lesser but just as effective driving technique.
Slow or fast, front wheel drive, rear, or all, the correographical techniques still apply in varying intensitys.
Its a racing variant of drifting. The theory is that there's a certain angle that you can achieve to angle the car toward the exit of the turn and still maximize a level of grip to keep pushing yourself forward and lose minimal speed. This is a long and roundabout way to introduce you to what touge and racing drivers call "Slip Angle" drifting.
Then you get the angry "DON'T SLID" sign waved at you.
I’m saying😂. I thought I was the only one. They smack that sign down against the counter hella hard when you do that😂. For me I see the brake before corners one in place of the one you mentioned.
This really does depend on your kart and track conditions, but mostly kart. This is power sliding, your using the engine to steer way more than your using the steering wheel, you basiclly line the kart up with steering and then power on to make corner. Very intresting, havent done this in years, makes me want to get out there again. Lol 👍🏼
Bro thank YOU SO MUCH im going gokarting tmr and i hope this Will help so thanks
My brother, this is literally how drifting works.
My problem with all the rental karts I've ever used is they are either so damaged and screwed up, or so slow, that I couldn't even try this if I wanted to...
Bro that f1 driver is absolutely slamming it in that go kart. I dont think I've ever seen a go kart go that fast.
If you find that entertaining, you should watch "Lewis Hamilton wins the Elf Masters final 2000, Paris Bercy". He's a kid here and destroys the field, building a huge gap, its insane.
Or any of max verstappens sim racing videos. He predictably shreds the other players and it's glorious 😂
Max is a mutant freak. He uses his time off actually formula one racing to sim race. Literally doesn't ever stop.
What is fascinating, is that during Top Gear, they acknowledged that F1 drivers took their course differently than the other racing drivers. Made me wonder what system Jackie Stewart taught James May.
That was a lot of words to say “just drift the corners” 😂
My local track banned this because it destroys tires quicker
But they’ll charge you like $80 aud (where I’m at) for like 5 laps lmao
Don’t compare a shifter kart with 40hp vs a rental kart with 5hp 😂
When someone asked you to write an essay on drifting. And you need a minimum of 500 words 😂😂
Bro discovered powersliding
Its not 'powersliding'.
🤓🤓🤓 cry kid
not powersliding m8
@Bdusiフィネスないjudería What.
Just rotating the car.
bro turned the wheel left and went right… that’s when all my brain cells disappeared 💀
You're shifting the weight of the car from the back to the front. You can also do this by quickly tapping the brake as you start the turn. It helps in daily driving too :)
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Bro its crazy how few people do this. I grew up on racing video games and self taught myself how to drive. That's how i take all corners and it frustrates me seeing people slow down in the turn instead of before the turn. Slow down then accelerate. So much more control.
Yea definitely helps in daily driving 😆 🤣 lmao....
@@jamiejones6994 it does jack ass. Not everyone drives like a grandma. LMAO 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣
@LM77va I race at the track every Saturday night (round track latemodels) (2 championships) & Busa at the dragstrip (1/8mile track) (6wally's) (490's) when time allows all this shit is just funny to me I guess idk 🤷♂️
That works for a kart because they don’t have a differential. But Carlos would never do that in his F1 car.
I never have an understeer problem. I oversteer and turn into a tornado.
I did pro-am go kart racing earlier in my life. I can tell you this, while slip angle is a good method, don’t do it on every turn.
Simple reason: if youre sideways, you’re not going straight, and straight is fastest. With that mind, if the turn isn’t sharpe enough, no need to do it.
Sainz was going thru sharpe apex’s, that why he did it. You really didn’t need to do it on those first few turns
Don’t you love when they OVERCOMPLICATE something simple to sound intelligent.
It’s like listening to Iketani vs Takumi explaining drifting 😂😂😂
Can you explain what just happened cuz I ain’t getting it
@@hongthainguyen5334 he’s using weight transfer and torque to turn
@@blkgostnone4092 Ah yes the ol’ Tacoom “I understeer all 4 wheels to drift” I remember being all impressed by that line. For a week
@@hongthainguyen5334 bingo
Duh…hell you need 4 all 4 wheels to drive a car 🤣🤣🤣
That show was the technical Fast n Furious
Omg i remember that scene
Definitely only something you would ever do in a go-kart. That is an excellent way to tear your tires to shreds as well as heating them up to the point of no grip.