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@@RyanDay2 hahaha awesome suggestion! I am not a TT anything guy as you know 😅. And I think I'd be among the "smashed" guys at 90 min 🤣. I will lyk if I ever feel like I can be of use to you in TTT 👊

A number of people mentioned that! Something I observed when comparing lap 1 to lap 2 also. Thanks for the insight 👍

Thanks! I'm sure I will get better at everything regarding power-ups, so we will see how it goes!

Thank you! 🙌

Thanks! We'll see how long it takes! 👊

@@BadTanLines haha I think generally, that's true. It seems as though you can find way more recovery or coast more in real life than on zwift 😅

@@andymiller54 hahaha thanks! I have never ever heard anyone say they dread racing me 🤣. I'm guessing you are a B now. Outdoor, at the end of a race, I'll usually hit 950-1000w. I can do 1250-1300 consistently when I'm fresh, but that's obviously not relevant during a race. If I can conserve more energy during a Zwift race and not be so cooked by the finish, I think I can do 800+ but we shall see. Gotta work on all of the little things! Feel free to follow me on zwift and I'll follow back and if we ever end up in a race together, I'll be sure to lead you out (inadvertently 🤣).

@@scotjaworski6628 thanks Scot! I appreciate the tips. 1) noted! From what people say, it seems to be the best to use PU later in a segment or when you are on the limit etc. 2) I think the challenge was default selected for me, but anyhow I am progressing on that. I think I'm at 9.5k meters of elevation out of the 50k that I need. So, hopefully another 4 weeks or so. I got the Aeroad with c60 wheels to see how that helps in my next race too. Multiple marginal gains can be a decently significant gain just like in the real world 😆. 3) thanks for the encouragement and the openness to chatting Feel free to critique me as I go along too. I plan to post more videos of my races with just as much or less editing than this first one. Editing takes a number of hours that I can't necessarily sacrifice all the time 😅

@@Eragonking53 Noted! Thanks for the comment! 👍

@@williamwillson563 thanks for sharing and thanks for the encouragement! Getting me motivated! Drafting better, power-up timing, trying lower cadence are the three things I'm taking from the comments here

@@JamesWilliams0 I just got the Aeroad with c60 wheels! Super pumped to try it out! Hoping it gets me slightly better results so I can upgrade sooner than later! Thanks for commenting ✌️

@@MarkRiddellRacing thanks for the frame of reference! Your max HR is bonkers 🤣. Great numbers for being 42. Hopefully, I can keep improving 👍. See you in the B category semi-soon 😉

@@MarkRiddellRacing unless you get to A. Then, see you never 🤣

@@jameskim3 never gonna happen. Too old 😝

@@MarkRiddellRacing but you're probably like me. You're gonna try anyway 😂... And then regret it when you're racing against 850+ scores 🤣

@ well you got a new subscriber. Look forward to watching your progress.

@@morten9972 I have been consistent with strength training this offseason (I race road from Feb-Aug) so far! It's definitely helping! You're spot on with the comment though. I'm working on it 🤙

@@mismo358 No! Which is why I'm not too worried about it haha. I'm curious to see how it changes over the next 5-10 years though.

@@CoenP thanks! Going to try lower cadence (aiming for around 95rpm avg to start) next races and see how it does!

@ it’ll probably feel heavier but you should get some higher watts per kg. But you should search your flow to stay in the pack and on the climbs. Ride on

@CoenP I'll improve it over time! When it comes to feel, proprioception, and honing soft skills I'm pretty good. 🙂🫡

@@imprezaaudi haha thanks! I'm hoping so! Gotta improve on some things people have been commenting on, but I'll get there! 👍

RT knows his stuff. Great racer. Yep, the cadence is high, overtime mine has increased and I'm comfortable racing between 90 to 100rpm. As RT said, for this climb I stand and treat it as a controlled sprint. Its around 1m30s to 1m45s at race pace. Grab a brief rest around the hairpin. It took me a while to get comfortable out of the saddle indoors, it doesn't feel as natural as outside so you have to get used to it and don't be afraid to throw the bike around a bit.

@@R.T_Go_Your_Own_Way will try that! Trying lower cadence is one thing I'm going to try next race. Thanks for the comment 👊

@@martinchambers1800 thank you! It was painful... As you saw... 😅

@@mattiapalombi1597 🙌👍

@@mattiapalombi1597 congratulations on 🥈! Solid result 👍. Thanks! I gotta get better at the power-up game haha

@@RideItBetterCycling awesome! I appreciate the encouragement haha. I race in the real world and have seen basically every possible race analysis video posted on TH-cam 😂, so I know the general gist of how to race but Zwift does have some nuances and power-ups are obviously the most novel thing about it, so I gotta keep learning that. Thanks!

@@ettman sweet thanks! I know about the 50,000m!! Argh hahaha. I did about 9,500m so far in a week, so hopefully it won't take too much longer than a month if I keep the pace 😅

@@jameskim3 Wow, was thinking that first, but thought that can’t be true at level 13! 😃 Nice! Left a sub! Will be interesting to see how this goes! :)

​@@ettman Thanks for following along! I'll try to not let you down 😂

@@CyclingwithVovo I think that's what the previous wkg standards were but going by race score seems to be completely fair game and reasonable now. There have consistently been stronger guys than me in all my races so far in the C hahaha. My goal is to get to 500 race score first and then I will try to hop into the next category!

@@jameskim3 I am looking for the plus 50+ bracket, haha

@CyclingwithVovo if you make one, I will join you in 8.5 years! ✌️🙂

@@mortenmuusmann thanks for sharing 👊. Yeah, supertuck criteria I was aware of but on the first lap I said "maybe not" cuz I couldn't get up to the front 😂. On the second lap, you saw that I went under 58kph and then had to push a little again to get back to 58+ to do the tuck so I botched that a little bit hahaha. This is fun though! Learning each race!

@@silverarrowslk possibly! 🤷. I'll do lower cadence and report back on the heart rate haha

That is. because he does not have much leg muscle so he has to use higher RPM to compensate for less leg muscle. I know a few people that do this and some that use low RPM but have massive leg muscles.

@@stevej_on_a_mtb thanks for all the input! I appreciate your time. All those points are noted and logged in my head. It also corroborates some of the things others have shared with me too, so that's always good to know that it's reliable info haha. I'll find your video and put it on my watch later playlist!

Are you an A+ rider???

@@CyclingwithVovo No, I don't have anywhere near that kind of aerobic power. I started in C cat and sneaked into A cat for a while based on my 5 min power. My anaerobic power has developed faster than my endurance, so my comfort zone is in repeated efforts well above FTP. As long as I take recovery when I can get it, l can snatch a few results against A+ riders.

@@jameskim3 I watched some of your outdoor racing. That's impressive stuff! I'm sure you have a good foundation of speed and acceleration already so a 500 score should be well within reach. With 3.6wkg average in this Cat C race, I would say you could already race well in the old Cat B pen.

@@drewbuffington one large one under my desk towards my legs and torso, 2 standard upright fans and then one of those Lasko industrial strength ones on my desk directed at my face (hence the glasses haha). Might be overkill but I find that it's amazing 😂. What's your setup like? I've seen my 930 race score friend's setup and it's suuuper nice (he also streams and stuff too and has all those gadgets too lol)

⁠@@jameskim3definitely not overkill! Not having proper cooling is usually a mistake new guys make so I’d say you’re doing great. I have a few blower fans and a portable a/c unit next to my bike! Makes such a big difference. Keep racing and I’m sure your score will skyrocket! I’m at 952 😎

@drewbuffington I just peeped a couple videos and subscribed lol! Your wkg is ridiculous 😂. I'm new to Zwift racing but I'm not new to indoor training and I'm sensible... Hence the proper cooling 😂

@@jameskim3also subbed to you! Great videos! I mostly am on twitch. Www.twitch.tv/scootabugz Come say what’s up!

@CycleWithMatts this was a topic of discussion with my friend! I do feel pretty comfortable at high cadence, but I'm going to try to work the avg lower a little bit and see how it feels. Results to be determined! Won't know until we try things ✌️

@ I think aswel if you’re out the saddle you can put more power down grinding a bit more than being at high candence

@CycleWithMatts I need to work on that. I think it might be a gamechanger for indoor racing

@CycleWithMatts a friend of mine is around 930 race score. Absolutely ballin. He does hard efforts out of the saddle for long stretches and I'm like "how the hell??" 😂

@@jameskim3 lol 🤣 it’s normal to do harder efforts out the saddle cause you can use your body weight on the pedals instead of just your legs 👍

@@rk55582 so far, all 5 of my races have been 245-260w avg and like 260-290w NP! I just got the Aeroad so we will see if that makes any noticeable difference. Obviously, there are so many variables, but I'm thinking the bike itself may help me in the sprint the most. I could be wrong... Wouldn't be the first time of course 😅

@@MattRogersdesigns this is the only thing interesting about me 😉😂

220-age has long been stated as unreliable

@@gourami7 Of course, but it is still a starting point and probably a good average. If you are 60 years old and have a 210bpm max heart rate, you know you are not within a standard deviation of the average.

@@jameskim3It’s so high due to your very high cadence. Cadence is very inefficient actually! You need to use more torque and lower cadence you get your BPM down. You’ll use more glycogen with higher HR.

@silverarrowslk 🫡 noted! Something to work on. Need more leg muscles 😂

@@Scott_Hammack man, I appreciate you taking the time to type all that out! 👊 1) I was wondering why it seemed like others had more power-ups than me! Makes sense 👍 2) a friend showed me that site and another one too! Really helpful and interesting info there! 3) my friend made this exact point! I did have to pop off some watts to get to the front and I also realized afterwards that it probably would have been more efficient to just stay in the draft without doing that harder effort. You make a great point. 4) noted! Question: does the power-up you are using have to expire before you can get another one? Or can you activate it right before the banner and get the full use of it while picking up another one when you go through that banner? 1) I see what you see there, yeah. I know the art of sprinting and timing, but obviously in the moment it doesn't always go to plan. In real life racing, I video all my races and analyze all of these types of things too. So helpful. Hopefully, now that I have a slightly better bike in-game, I can have a little more in the tank for the sprint finishes coming up! 2) I actually just saw a video about this point! I definitely need to work on finding the minimum output to stay in the position I need to. I do this much better outdoors than in this game (so far) hahaha. Thanks again! I'll keep working on these things. Hopefully, there is improvement across the board on all the skills needed ✌️

Thanks for the tips.

@@PedroPrego thanks for the input! Yeah the power-up game needs work. I'm hoping the new Aeroad I just bought in the store will help a little bit in my next race. We will see how much of a perceived difference that makes! 👍

@@J.P.1. boooo that's no fun 😊

@jameskim3 lol we're here for the pain right?

@@J.P.1. Indeeeeed. I'm 💯 here for it 😏... Apparently!

@@sAgE-01A thanks! if only it was GREAT! 🙁🤣

@@jameskim3 🤣🤣 that word is reserved for when you podium! 🤣🤣

​@@sAgE-01A THEN I WILL EARN IT!!! 👊

Save the feather! Never use it before you need it. If you're going to drop it early, you'd better be on the front attacking, otherwise save it and use it to attack over the top

​@@thespartanbishop But it should always be on an uphill, right?

@@23Raizen zwifties sounds better 😂 zwifters are normal. Zwifties are the pro ones?

@@al-du6lb I consider myself lucky to live in this area 🙏

Not sure if it's a blessing or a curse 😂

@@veloboy22 I appreciate the feedback! I still think his point is completely valid when considering the context of it being a training/group ride and not a race. I'm sure we have all seen some way sketchier stuff in other group rides 😂. I think his comments pertained specifically to this ride - and I don't think he felt particularly endangered in this case, but I feel like he spoke up to prevent something more hairy in the future from happening.

@@cameronjette2456 I get your point. I won't debate it, but everyone has their opinions/views. Have a good day 👍

@@MustafaSalihATES-ft6vf haha I know... I've spent 20 min at 193bpm in a race before 🤣

@@jameskim3 You fall in love with cycling. I am training with wahoo in home. I will never strong as you but cycling is fun so Iwill keep doing it .

@MustafaSalihATES-ft6vf enjoy it! We know it's fun at any speed/power✌️

Hahahaha it was 58° and not raining in November! We spoiled! 🤣

@jameskim3 haha, it's all relative. . Be safe sir and have fun! We have "Storm" season where it rains for 2 weeks and everyone complains and the news makes a big deal.

​@@cliffcox7643thanks! Reminds me of the time I first moved to VA from MA in 2005 and the forecast called for 4 inches of snow and ALL the stores sold out of bottled water and other essentials and I was like "what universe is this???" 😂

The legend will continue 👊👊😅

@@ramoverde4133 yeah! I'll include that gauge from now on

@@jameskim3 Nice!

​​@@michaelnedd3347 yeah, I agree. Obviously, I never would have done that if there was a car parked there 😅 and that's not a defense for what I did - just mentioning. I knew the fastest line was on the right but I was boxed in. Lizard "race brain" said to go around left, which I probably should have tried turning off in the moment, considering the circumstances of it not being a race and there being no reward for making the move. That was part of Jason's point.

I disagree and don't believe that James needs to apologize at all. Jason fully stopped pedaling in a group moving at 30mph and in a position that could have caused many more issues than the way James handled the situation. Jason was on the left side of the road, with a curb soon approaching that would eliminate any gap that was on his left side. If James had been on his left side and hadn't made the move to pass Jason, James would likely have crashed because he would have to decelerate even more rapidly than Jason after stopping pedaling at 30mph simply to avoid crashing into Jason or the curb. James passed with plenty of clearance and made the situation safer for all the riders.

@@tay-mp9xn I can see what you're saying. The only other option for me in that situation would have been to brake and maybe it could've been bad for people behind or not. Who knows? Haha. I will say the only reason I even attempted the move on the left was because I saw a lot of space. But either way, we learn and we correct and try to ride safely when riding is inherently dangerous. I clearly understand his issue with it, so I'm aware of it.

@@markscott5955 I believe this is the consensus from everyone (minus the person who redesigned it this way 😆)

@@jameskim3 The person who redesigned it has obviously never actually ridden a bike. Good job being open to cosntructive criticism. I thought the way you actually executed the pass looked safe, but can definitely see things going poorly if the circumstances were slightly different. Keep up the great content!

@Scott_Hammack yeah for sure! Thanks! After 10 years of wayward living (self inflicted) in my 20s and then 10 years of marriage following that, I am 100% certain that I make mistakes and am open to being corrected and learning from whatever comes 🙂😅