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Try also PR 209 or PR 207 pigments. PR 207 more like coral or salmon and is my favourite. PR 209 is red quinacridone

Thank you for sharing this info. Learning a lot

These watercolors with “florescent inks” added found many fade by accident. Gifted a set of “brush pens” that use some ink mixture but in less than 1 month many colors (never in the sun) faded badly. Once got real artist grade watercolors saw difference quickly & it’s a shame such gorgeous colors (not cheap) won’t last. However; not selling my art but am wary of the “ink” added so ty for this video.

PV19 quin red from DS or ruby red from Schmincke are my all-time favorites. They barely changed in 3 years on my window.

Thank you! Great info!!! However, without Schminke‘s Horadam something huge is missing in the comparison game.

Very helpful!

I learn what is lightfast and what is fugitive. I do intentionally get fugitives anyway and even make wall hanging art. Frame under UV glass to make last longer. Or let it fade and just take it done and repaint over and/or put up anew artwork you make when it does fade. Now the issue is when SELLING originals and also if you intend a gift to last. Otherwise warn people if fugitives are involved. I’ve even made art where parts will fade intentionally so the art will transform over time!

There is a pink from daniel smith made with minerals, primatek rhodonite it is a beautiful pink and the chart says it is lightfast, maybe it can be an option.

Thank you!

Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Why is it that my favorite colors are fugitive? 😢

Good information, really enjoyed your video, thank you

Thank you for the comparison's it's always interesting to see a range of manufacturers paint choices. PR83 was used for alizarin crimson and also rose madder so it depends on the hue you're aiming for I suppose, the PR179 makes some sense to me as a sub for original rose madder which tends to have a brownish undertone as opposed to the alizarin lake dye. This colour has such an interesting history :)

You might be pleasantly surprised with DaVinci’s permanent alizarin crimson PV19, it is my favorite and waters down great and is far more beautiful than DS permanent alizarin crimson and many other brands. It is less expensive than many brands also.😊

This is just a swatchvideo, not a lightfastness test.

I'm not sure why artists stress about lightfastness .... I'm a custom art framer and whenever I'm framing watercolour, I recommend UV glass which will filter out 99.9% of UV. UV is everywhere, not just in direct sunlight. So I say protect your work with UV glass and enjoy EVERY colour regardless of the lightfast rating because there are options !!

Try Rosa Gallery’s Rose Magenta! Brightest one me and my friends have seen!

I have tested Winsor & newtons opera rose in a bright sunny window during the summer for over 4 months and it literally did not fade at all. I have heard W&N’s opera rose is more lightfast than others. I think people exaggerate lightfastness ratings in general. Yes it’s important. But if opera rose can make it than most colors will. Prussian blue fades more than opera rose based on my tests. Plus…. Once it fades the PR122 is still there. It will simply fade down to a non fluorescent magenta and still be bright

That IS a beautiful color chart, Sara!!! Inspiring. I have some thinking to do... and some observing what happens on paper, paint by paint.

Would it be possible to post a copy of your chart that we can save and use?

Interesting video, thanks for sharing your thoughts ❤️

Excellent video. This makes me want to conduct a pinks and a purples lightfastness test myself. I've seen wildly different test results for different people on fluorescent colors! For instance, in theory the Sennelier one should be much worse than the W&N since the PR81 is also fugitive. Holbein makes a lot of paints like that too, although they are gorgeous for sketchbook. You're so right that some reds dilute into a very unpleasant color which is not pink (honestly sometimes they remind me of Aunt Flo.) I think my new fave lightfast pink is Mission Gold's Quin Permanent Rose, but your swatch looks warmer than mine. Weird! I do like the DS Quin Rose very much too, interesting to see it next to the Quin Pink (one of the few I've not tried from them). I have the Schmincke PV42 and it's rather weak compared to PV19.

Has anyone tested Daniel smiths genuine rhodonite

Oh awesome! You are a pigment nerd like myself. I studied handprint way back before it became outdated. But even now, most of the information is still current. Last I checked, Bruce is still living but hes totally retired. But I check a couple years ago. Quinacridone Gold that was originally the single pigment PO49, was never meant to be used as a warm yellow. It's just an another yellowish earthy pigment like PY43 & PY42. But because it was discontinued, companies try to replicate it with a mix. None look like the original to me. I bought lots if it for back up before it was gone. I like it better than Yellow Ochres or Raw Siennas.

I agree. I don't want granulation in my sky either. Nor in skin or flower petals. They do have their place though. Especially landscape work and needed texture. Thanks for sharing. I live in Oregon where M Graham is made. Its pretty adorable here.

I always love swatching videos. 😍 M Graham is one of my favorite brands, but they require a little mixing with water before painting on your paper. I'm glad you found those blues helpful. It's always fun trading watercolors with friends. 😊

Love the final painting! It is lovely! Thank you for sharing every steps

Very informative, thank you.

Videos like this save me so much time and money thank you so much. I subbed!!

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Thank you! This was very very helpful and inspiring.

Excellent! You are so thoughtful about this and you explain it so well!

I love the colour wheel. I don't currently own any M Graham. I'm sure I can come up with something similar with my watercolours (of which I have numerous brand's and colours). Any hint where to find the pattern for the wheel? I do not have a lot of mixed pigment colours apart from greens and some neutrals preferring single pigments and the ability to more cleanly mix colours. Have you bought from Jackson's(uk) or Arte Miranda (Sp) both offer reasonable shipping to Aus so insure they are reasonable to can.?

Im brand new to painting and watercolor paints, pink is my favorite I love all of these colors here. This was very informative and over my head as a beginner. I literally started yesterday and have completed one painting, trees in the mist with some added chickens! Im saving this video to revisit when I can actually understand it and know what Im doing a little better. New sub!

This is really a lovely video. Thank you! And your birds in the background......so calming

Thank you for sharing. I love pinks also love painting flowers, so this helps alot!👍😃👋

Thanks for sharing. I did this too since I have a lot of Brands to play with. Many batches of PR177 fades terribly. In my own 7 month test it faded a little. When its mixed with other light-fast pigments it still changes in color because when the PR177 is faded or gone, it changes hue. So in a mix, it might not fade much that in light but it changes hue since its not colorfast. I've been a portrait artist in realism, for years (retired) and now just want to play.

I did a light-fast test on some Opera Pinks for 7 months during longest south facing sunlight of the year as well as many other pinks. Its surprising how well Holbein Opera and W&N Opera Rose held up. What was left was a beautiful soft pink which was because of the PR122. Other brands have less of that or none at all, just the Florescent dye that totally vanishes. Eva Nichols Art here on You Tube showed her results. You Might like seeing it. Thanks for sharing! I love pigment talk since I've been a pigment nerd for many years. PS, The PV42 didn't hold up well compared to the PV19 and PR122.

Thanks for the great comparison. I have the Da Vinci substitute for PR83 called "Quinacridone Alizarin Crimson" which is the most crimson version of PV19. It's the closest to true Alizarin Crimson that I've ever found. PR177 is know to have lot of issues with lightfastness (see Kimberly Crick's blog and TH-cam channel about this) and there's issues with PR264 as well. The Da Vinci version is very lightfast and a very close match so that is the best option for me.

This was very very helpful...Thank you for sharing this. I am interested in DS Quin Pink as another option to my pallet!

Great comparison and thank you for sharing. I really liked the OH, but finally saw the PR177 as part of its mixture. I havent found the perfect replacement yet. Genuine Rose Madder brings up another beautiful color that is just as fugitive. I hope you get well soon. 🥰 I'm recovering from a week of a very mild covid cold.😁

Wow!! Nice work 👍

Love your speedy colour application. The scene is full of promises .

its so pretty

Did you tell me about this TH-cam site ? So sorry I missed it all this time. Love Sennelier paints. Your painting is fabulous. Great idea for mixing dark with different colours.

Job well done, Sara! I enjoyed the video and painting along with you!

Congratulations on your first watercolor video on TH-cam. 👏👏👏 I enjoyed it all. Great job Sara. 😍