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Exploring Commodore Amiga and More!
Ripping Apart A Classic Computer!
I need its heart and soul. The MOTHERBOARD.
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The most retarded part of this model was the floppy drive. It still used that custom-made 1/2 speed floppy drive from Chinon, who stopped making them by 1994, making ESCOM to buy back old Amigas to cannibalize the drives. And they were still making those with the most cheap EC 68040 they could find, that didn't even had the MMU. In 1996. To compete with Pentiums 200s and PowerMacs 300s.
The A4000 is a very clear example of "Amiga Germany designed this case"
hahah
good choice of prodigy - no good playing in the background!
Can’t be too loud! ;)
In a machine of this vintage.. how fast is the CF card setup vs a real hard drive ? At that time some drives were 10,000 RPM scsi drives which were available.
Amiga native IDE (which CF is) is all PIO (no DMA transfers) so it's very slow even for its time. On the flipside that means it's equally as slow reading from a CF card as from a real hard drive, which are both significantly slower than 10,000RPM SCSI drive with DMA transfers.
@@Vanders456 I guess my question is. if you used a full IDE HD or even scsi (if available) with faster speeds. is it worth it over using a CF setup?
@@cjadams7434 CF is just as fast as an IDE hard drive. SCSI should be faster.
Dude I remember selling and assembling video toaster long time ago, good memories.
Yeah going to be interesting trying to set one up again.
The ubiquitous Dr Chris vinyl magnet for all of us Dr Chris cult followers, LOL
What a flashback, every time I opened my A-4000 I was afraid of breaking the plastic clips of the front panel, they are so brittle. I can't count how often I had to open it for CPU cards, RAM, Retina, Cybervision 64 and stuff like SyQuest changeable hard drive (which sucked) and other stuff. Great to see the mighty 060 in it's full glory!
I HATE popping that front off. Just tears at me!
that's actually a backplane. The daughter card are expansion cards...just saying. Clean little junk box though. Someone's been in there and detailed it.
Ah ha! Thanks for clarifying that.
Jens apparently stopped making the rapid roads USB module due to a design flay in his design where the module could get shorted out via usb connect/disconnect and to stop the warranty bloodbath he stopped making the module due to so called "chip shortage".......
ohhhh. Bummer. Thanks for the info.
Thank you Q got to love the Amiga 4000.
I always made sure I had those big antistatic motherboard bags on hand just in case.
I'm a bit surprised that the chip RAM speed for stock A1200 isn't 4.00 (2x the bus width and 2x the clock of ECS). But the slower speeds make sense to me because of the higher latency of unsynchronized clocks between the chip and the non-original CPU and its RAM bus. I don't remember ever noticing that effect with my Zeus, but by the time I had that installed, I was running a Picasso and wouldn't have noticed. (I see drramtop1576 has a clearer and more up to date grasp of this issue.)
Yeah, those pesky video sluts...
I had an A4000/030 and it was 25MHz, which was soooo slow, my Blizzard A1230 was so much faster, but the 4000 had a Picasso II....
Yeah the expansion slots did allow for fun options.
@@HoldandModify My point was either A1200 with slow af chipset (gfx) but fast CPU or A4000 with fast graphics and slow af cpu.
I just posted a time lapse of me putting my A4000 back together the other day. I took it apart about a year ago to do a motherboard swap and install a 060 board but waited longer than expected for the board and kickstart roms to arrive. When they finally got here I didn't feel like messing with it so it sat on my desk in pieces for far too long and I kept putting off the reassembly. It feels good to finally have the beast back together again.
awesome yeah sometimes that happens. Depends how busy I am with real job.
A4000/040, A4000/030, A4000 CR, and the A4000T were the versions which were released - I've two of the 040 versions both part way through being refurbished, I've done the motherboard dance more than a couple of times now :D
yeah, I realized after I made the video I completely forgot about the tower but then again that was so not in my world back then. lol
there was also this post mortem A4000T/060 from Escom.
@@madigorfkgoogle9349 Yeah, the Quickpak 060
Used to do renders late at night so we could utilise every machine in the office, even the PC on the front reception desk. Did the same years later with backburner when I moved on to 3DS max. Was a great feeling of power, like having a supercomputer at your fingertips. I bet you could render as fast on an iPad nowadays.
I loved the late night office takeovers. Yeah, definitely give n some thoughts to all those old ipads stacked up as e-waste. Small packaged, lower power, Amiga render nodes!! :)
Back in the day I made a boot floppy with the ScreamerNet client so I could turn my office into a render farm after everyone went home.
oh yeah that’d be fast way. Need networking setup too. getting that all on one floppy would be a fun challenge. :)
Back in the late 90s I was working as an artist for a games developer. At that time everyone had shifted to working on PCs (DPaint and 3D Studio in DOS...blerrgh ), but I still had my own Amiga 4000/060 on my desk for running Lightwave and Brilliance. One job I was assigned was creating a 3D rendered cut scenes for a flight simulator we were working on - originally it was just going to be a 2D comic strip, panning from frame to frame, but I convinced the boss that it would look better as a 3D animation. So I set up a whole scene where you moved through a dusty loft and found the comic book in a chest. The camera zoomed in on the comic and started moving between frames, then comic pages flipping over to show the next frames. I did it all in Ligtwave on my Amiga, but knew that rendering everything would take too long, so at night when everyone left work, I would run around the building and run Screamernet on everyone's PCs, then head back to my Amiga and set the rendering going... then head off down the pub, returning hours later to find everything rendered and looking glorious!
This is a fantastic story!! That’s great. What was the game?
I never had the patience or artistic skill to get into 3D modelling, but I was fascinated by the 'distributed computing' concept back then. I recall there being a horrendously expensive, multi-processor rendering machine called the "Raptor", which used Lightwave and Screamernet to munch through frames at an incredible rate, far faster than a room full of maxed out Amigas, but the Amiga would be in control. Ah, the good old days. 😁
Yeah I mentioned the Raptor in another comment. It was 4 CPUs in one box. ADVANCED for the time.
So screamer net tells them to render different frames?
Yeah, it’s the controller software.
syn ack yo sup
Hahaaa
Seems like a couple super powerful machines like WinUAE instances or the standalone Vampire would make this real nice. Would be nice to know what’s in the ack and other files. It also seems like some tool could make all that boiler plate much easier.
There are other render controller softwares out there that offer much more that work with LWSN. The job and ack files contain status reports from the LWSN node. As well as commands from the controller.
thats a lot of words and singing
He always did have such a lovely singing voice…
Nostalgia!
Doesn't star also have the same amount of letters as left? 😅
FACT
Love your videos! Awesome!
Glad to hear! They can be a bit….different.
I never got on with screamernet back in the day. always seemed to crash or you'd start a render going and find the client had quit after some frames so you were just single cpu rendering anyway.... So i stuck a 68060 in it instead. that made up it! Even with modern network nodes on PC lightwave its still pretty shonky! but at least we have other options now.
I’ve had much the opposite experience. In my years I’ve appreciated how robust LWSN has been.
I used to open up Screamernet and dream that I actually had more Amigas to use it. Didn't need it though... 060 96mb RAM - it's all a LWer ever needed ever! harharhar
Yeah that was the idea for many. The dream! I came close getting an 060 back then. Very close. But then…went down a dark path…to…..Windows.
The good old render farm ') , it's been years that i thought of that.
It is fun setting up!
In 2001 I had 128+16+2 MB of RAM in my A3k 060.
HOT.
0:10 An Amiga 3k with one drive mounted on the right instead in the middle always makes me feel very uncomfortable. It hurts the eye!
I agree and I really need to address this.
It would be cool if you could add nodes from other ISA's like PPC, x86, Arm. Distributed rendering 30 years ago.
SGI and x86 nodes i believe are supported by the controller.
my wife “why do you happily watch a guy waving his hand at a screen “ 😉
Because doing this at the Pub would be ridiculous. :)
I'd probably watch your videos in a pub but network rendering in a pub could be difficult
@@Lbf5677 I have miles of cable, I'm a data tech I could string up 100 machines in probably 1 or 2 beers.
@@MatthewHolevinski 90's network rendering in a pub 😅
@@Lbf5677 probably wouldn't be the first time, tell me those guys using bmrt for toy story were sober, please.
Sigh... Guess I'll just have to delay what I'm doing in Blitz 2 as "proof of concept" and go ready some hdf's so i can test this running 6 instances of WinUAE side by side... Fun fact, going back to my old coding days on the Amiga sure is making me appreciate the blessing and modern day convenience that is not crashing the whole machine just because i mishandled a pointer :D
lol! Yes, I can only imagine. I did try and get real Amiga to “see” a node running in WinUae on Windows and it wouldn’t see it. HMMM.
Thanks Q, love your Lightwave videos, many more if possible, always happy to watch animation software from the staging all the way to the final renders, ❤
Yes I wonder if those types might require a sub-channel. Branching off. Hmmm.
@@HoldandModify yes please would be great then you can make long detailed videos for the people that are truly interested
I never used Screamernet, looks pretty good. I'll have to give it a go, thanks Q.
Yeah the way i use it, it’s fairly easy to set up.
I have a Toaster Screamer (Bezel) in my collection and I ran screamer net render farm in hollywood in the 90s. (I used to also work for NewTek) Really the key to screamer net is understanding the content directory setting and making all your scene and objects and images relative to that.
Yup. I tried to make that clear. Hopefully folks don’t have too many issues.
So if you have two amigas connect to the same network, screamernet will auto connect to each other one both programs are up and running?
Yes. As long as your content is seen by all computers.
I managed to get screamernet working from your video, well kind of. Managed to get 3 cpus to render the same scene, but when they save the image files to drawer on the network the image files are 0 kilobytes in size. I'll have another look, great video by the way.
@@libbysworld1509 The scene you are rendering. You have set its output path? Also, make sure all the LW installs on the machines have their plugins added. Image Savers writing zero byte files sound likes a LW config issue. Confirm needed plugins are added for all computers with LW running.
I would guess that running Winuae and 68K Lightwave on multiple PCs networked together would really scream. Pun intended. This video makes me curious to know if anyone is still using Amiga Lightwave to render videos for modern shows. Again guessing since it's been years since I've used Lightwave, but I would imagine that the current PC version of Lightwave supports some version of networked rendering.
Technically, WinUAE is a single core, so with say, a bargain bin 1600AF or something, you have a 6 render node in a box. If really on a budget, you probably can pick up a whole 2nd/3rd gen i5 for peanuts, and it will still be really fast, just not ridiculously so. And last time i used in (on PC), it still supported this exact setup, and while it may have "evolved" a bit, i don't expect it to have gone too far from the concept, because its really simple and really functional. Only downside is having to have duplicate installs, which is easier on the Amiga as you just copy the whole thing over and done...
that was the weird thing that was one of the things I was going to show in the video, but I could not get it to work. I ran winUAE set up a screamer node, and even though that Amiga‘s shares on that Windows PC could be seen by the other Amiga, It would not detect the screamer node. .so something is going on there. Yes LW in its modern form is still used for some shows. There’s only a tiny handful of actual studios left using it. However there are plenty of contractors doing work in Hollywood for many shows and films that still use LW. Individuals mostly. You’re still seeing a lot of “transparent VFX” as they call it in a lot of TV shows, done with LW.
Your thumbnail image suggests this was how B5 was done, but with a whole fleet of networked Amigas?
The pilot episode of B5 and a chunk of the first season was Amigas and ScreamerNet and later a custom render controller software called F.I.R.E. Written by an employee of Foundation Imaging. Then moving forward in Windows, LWSN, the render node part of screamernet, was continued to be used and is to this very day. With other render controller apps managing it. Like, Deadline or Butterfly. It’s the “free” render node that comes with LW. You can have unlimited free render nodes with LW.
@@HoldandModifyAs I recall, at least some of SeaQuest DSV was rendered by Amigas too? I know Lightwave had a long and happy life after the Amiga, but it all started with the Miggy and the Toaster. 😁
About Networking, if you want to network old Amiga-Hardware for cheap, use parallel port networking, sure it is only P2P but pretty fast. Two unexpanded A500 with AmiTCP do ~100kByte/s, two A3000 ~200kByte even over the internal parallel port. If one side has a dedicated modern parallel card (MFC or Ariadne) then even ~400kByte are doable which is on par with 10MBit Ethernet cards for the Amiga. You can even network Amigas and PCs - BUT do not use any cable because it might blow up your Amiga or PC or both. Things get a bit complicated as there are several ways to use parallel cables. There is a dedicated Amiga-Cabeling which reaches high speeds between Amigas, then there is a interoperable one which allows networking between Linux and Amiga at a slightly lower speed and then there is a hypergeneric one which is shockingly slow but also works between Windows 3 to 11, MacOS 3 to 11, OS/2, pretty much any unix and so on. I can't remember the specific implementation names but magplip.device is the one allowing Amiga and Linux to network pretty well. At home I have an outdated 486 with 7 RS232 and 5 Centronics ports (and ARCnet and 100MBit Ethernet using the 3c515 "Corkscrew") which acts as a router for all my old machines, from the C64, the CPC464, the IBM PC5150 running DOS and to all my Amigas. Even Amiga-Linux connects very well through parallel to the 486. Too bad that most of these old systems can not really partake with the real internet but it is good enough to transfer software through FTP, SSH and RSYNC.
hmm I resourced LW not so long ago.. I'm wondering if I should take a look at ScreamerNet... btw great video
This light wave stuff requires 90’s familiarity: glad you’re recording for posterity. Amazed this works !
Yes I started this channel for this very thing. So many show demos and games and that’s great. But there’s so much great software for Amiga. I wanted to share those experiences as best I could.
Super cool. Thanks Q!
Glad you enjoyed it.
I might be odd but I love ScreamerNET and LW5.....it's just satisfying knowing how powerful this was when it was introduced. Mixed nodes, Amiga and SGI are fun too.
I did get a kick out of doing this.
It hurts my soul to see you don't have kingcon installed. Poor sod 😥
There are many Amiga tools I am clueless about. I had MagicWB and Tool Manager. That was it. :)
Been using ScreamerNet with Amiberry-running Pi4s when doing intensive anims nowadays, but I guess you must already have guessed that! 😉 Amiga and LW5 rule!!! Thanks for the vid, mate!
I am VERY tempted at the PiFarm concept for Amiga LW.
What an interesting video you did there! I should try this with my Amigas! Awsome and Thanks
Please do! I think it’s a beat idea. I might actually expand on this and do more. :)