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In Defense of Sweet... - GTA San Andreas
Hey there! It's Doug!
For the past few years, I've heard a lot of people, be it popular streamers in the community or just some of my friends, talk about how much they despise Sweet Johnson, and up until a few months ago, I agreed with them. But after I looked deeper into his character, I've developed a new opinion that he doesn't deserve all the hate that he gets, and in this video, I'm gonna explain exactly why that is.
Huge thanks to www.youtube.com/@1DERER1 for the background music in this video. If you like GTA music, check out his channel!
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0:00 - Introduction
2:14 - Sweeter Than Sour
8:42 - He's Just Misunderstood
15:11 - Grove Street's Unsung Hero
17:36 - Epilogue
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  • @impairedtrout6917
    @impairedtrout6917 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very good video. I recommend focusing a bit less on the story recap part and focus more on the themes of the game and character analysis, and also you should go very deep into what separates the game from the others in the same series or genre. Overall, very good video, 8.75 / 10

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, I realized too late that I had spent too much time going over the story when I really didn’t need to, especially since I didn’t really add much of my own perspective to it. That’s the same problem my San Andreas and Vice City Stories videos had I think, which is one reason why I haven’t talked about the story so much in my last couple of videos, and in any of my future videos where I review a game in its entirety, I plan on giving more of a synopsis of the story than a whole 30-minute chapter haha. Thank you for the critique! I’m also glad you found the video enjoyable! If you wanna see a much more interesting GTA 4-related video, I’d highly suggest checking out the one I made after this where I talk about giving GTA 4 a prequel. I go in-depth on a whole story surrounding the McReary Crime Family and how they fell into the position they’re in when Niko encounters them in 2008. Thanks again for watching and telling me what you thought!

  • @toystory4ever95
    @toystory4ever95 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great points. Sweet really is a misunderstood character who is very loyal and care about his gang and family. So he shouldn't take so much crap. Sweet isn't useless at all. If anything, Ryder is the one who is and he should be taken out of the game and its story entirely since he was/is the most pointless character of the entire game. I know you know the game's storyline would have been perfect if Ryder was taken out of it entirely because he ruined the entire first half of the game for all of us by dragging it down with his stupid dialogue and annoying voice.

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nah I just wish the rumor that Ryder wasn’t supposed to betray us was true because I really do like him, just like Big Smoke. I know he gives CJ a hard time whenever the group is hanging out, but when it’s just he two of them, you can tell CJ and Ryder were best friends hahaha

  • @arthurfesovets
    @arthurfesovets 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the video, my choice was still on the side of killing Francis. As many have pointed out, Niko, I didn't like him at all, this lying in Bellic's eyes that he is a holy man, it was a trigger for me, a slug. Derrek can't be called a positive character at all, he is a snitch, in some ways a weak person who found himself in drugs, but what is also a trigger in my opinion is that, after all, his family loved him, when Francis was killed, no one except mother, had no sympathy. Plus, if you've been in a friendly relationship with Pucky for a long time, you can understand that Derek was with his demons, but Francis is purely a man without principles, he even wanted to steal money as a priest.

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@arthurfesovets Thanks for the comment! I always appreciate everybody else’s insight, especially when it comes to decisions like these

  • @danielcohen867
    @danielcohen867 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    GTA San Andreas is the greatest game ever created I can't stop smiling when talking about this game this game is so good I have no words to say this game is legendary

  • @Ryhindor
    @Ryhindor 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I liked the video after the first sentence!

  • @GTAHeavyImpact
    @GTAHeavyImpact 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would be cool to see the prequel about Vlad, this is a definitely underestimated character. And Mikhail’s phone call to Vlad would've begun like this: "Hey, fatty-vladdy yokel, it's Mikhail, come to the Perestroyka!"

  • @crissayago6070
    @crissayago6070 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sweet was born from a generation that didn’t value sensitivity or being in touch with their feelings. In a place where you have to be tough as iron to survive Showing how he cares about his family is of the “tough love” variety and like you said. He goes about things in a wrong way (however I think CJ should’ve clued him in on the fact that his government benefactor pulled strings for Sweet to get released.) Regarding the racism/bigotry in real life the race relations between African Americans and Mexican Americans in Southern California is very tense due to the gang and prison politics that boil into the streets. Sweet may be concerned about the “other/outsider”, but if he actually bothered to get to know Cesar a lot of stuff could’ve been different. Good vid man!

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@crissayago6070 Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed it! And thanks for sharing your own insight!

  • @MohammadAVGN1
    @MohammadAVGN1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you know the problem is story not sweet sa story is almost very unfinished and broken - r* didn't have time had to release the game in right time they didn't care about him too much unlike smoke,ryder. - sweet was probably going to more important character he had more dialogues that was unused and deleted from game files to reduce * size of the game it was already going to be on 2 discs (* means i added those texts with editing comment) - in the last if ps2 was powerful console and they had more time we could see better sweet and many beta things that was cut in the game. they didn't care about sweet too much just how didn't care about ryder and killed him because of problems with his voice actor.

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MohammadAVGN1 I’m not exactly sure on everything else you said since I don’t have knowledge on everything regarding San Andreas, but regarding your mention of Ryder, his voice actor, MC Eiht, has confirmed that he fulfilled his obligation for voicing Ryder, meaning Rockstar had all of the dialogue they needed from him. They didn’t kill him off because of a disagreement with the VA, they killed him off because that was the plan

    • @MohammadAVGN1
      @MohammadAVGN1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      man i really don't know some people say it wasn't planned some people says is not * says it was planned this is one my reason why story is broken because of development like skin changes removing dialogues changing missions and more

  • @darkepankakes8302
    @darkepankakes8302 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont like sweet because hes a coward who doesnt smoke crack

  • @thegtalover14
    @thegtalover14 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly, I can never bring myself to hate Sweet. I don't even think he's a useless leader, the game just puts too much emphasis on CJ's importance to the hood, which is understandable since he is the protagonist and the game wants the player to feel like their hard work means something. If Sweet did most of the work, we wouldn't even have missions! So by that logic, anyone who gives you missions in GTA is useless because they don't do it themselves. Also people get on Sweet's case for not being a good leader but apparently when Cesar's gang fell apart after "The Green Sabre", nobody calls out Cesar for being a "bad leader" (granted he was also doing it to protect Kendl but still). And like you said, Sweet doesn't seem to have a problem with CJ having a life outside of the Grove, he just doesn't want him to forget it or let it fall to pieces. This line in the Los Desperados cutscene says it all "All your brother wants you to do is payback your debts CJ". I think the problem is that Rockstar didn't give him the development he needed in the final part of the game. Even one line of dialogue during a phone call would've made a difference. So yeah, Sweet is a flawed character but I just can't get behind all the hate he gets.

  • @rafealperez1223
    @rafealperez1223 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One thing i think you should have made a section on is just how good big smokes betrayal really was to the point where i honestly think the only other game that rivals it is the original mw2 with general shepherd killing ghost and roach. Nowadays everyone can see its faults with ryder not really fitting in the scene real well but besides that it was actually done really well because big smoke was such a likeable character that by that point of the green sabre we all thought we were going to ride with the grove street homies untill the end of the game but when the betrayal is revealed the game transform from a gangster simulator to a professional criminal game which i think they did really nicely apart from some choices i think they should have written better (ryders death comes to mind) also as a side note this video deserves way more views for the effort you put in it

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Broooo straight up though. I think Big Smoke’s betrayal is one of the biggest gut punches in gaming history, and even though he sold out GSF and had CJ’s mom killed, I still can’t help but have some love for the big bastard hahaha. And thank you bro! Hopefully one day these videos will receive more views, but even the amount they’re getting right now is still way more than I could’ve imagined a year ago lol

  • @tallblackguy9993
    @tallblackguy9993 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Leroy Lopez

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tallblackguy9993 I wouldn’t mess with him

  • @rafealperez1223
    @rafealperez1223 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think it was sweets writing rather than sweet himself. Instead of complaining about cj making a better life for himself at homecoming he should have instead complained about cj not giving a fuck about getting revenge for smoke killing his mom and siding with the ballas. When cj is done with the san fierro missions he makes absolutely no effort to stop smoke afterwards as the entirety of the las venturas arc is just him building himself up. And then when he saves sweet he doesnt even mention smoke at all like he stopped caring about him. I think if sweet had pointed this out instead of berating cj for making a better life out of himself it atleast would have made him more understandable as cj was just ready to give up on the man that made him kill his childhood best friend ryder and his moms but sweet wanted to avenge them.

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rafealperez1223 I completely agree. Honestly by the time I ever get to Homecoming, I’ve pretty much always forgotten about the fact that Smoke was responsible for their mother’s death. At that point, I just think of him as the guy who sold out the Grove and tried to get rid of the Johnson brothers. If they reemphasized the fact that killing him would mean avenging their mother, I think quite a few more people would understand Sweet’s perspective here

    • @rafealperez1223
      @rafealperez1223 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DougTheDog6 yeah. Another thing is how they killed off ryder. Cj showed almost no regrets killing ryder who was forced to join the ballas and didnt actually participate in his moms death and was his childhood best friend meanwhile smoke who had betrayed everyone and killed his moms and sided with the ballas he showed regret towards killing by but ryder who cj actually enjoyed being with the most out of any character just gets killed off like he was another balla. If they had a cutscene where ryder shows regret about signing on with smoke and spends his last few minutes saying how he was sorry towards cj and everything i think it would have made us get us more willing to go after smoke instead of the cheap coppout we got ingame about him wanting to bang kendl. I honestly didnt like how after san fierro big smoke felt more of a after thought than anything.

  • @LScentral
    @LScentral 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cesar needs more hate imo.

  • @ericgreathouse9491
    @ericgreathouse9491 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    babe get up there is another DougTheDog6 video

  • @kylefagan9585
    @kylefagan9585 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gta3 had a better radio

  • @aguycalledpie
    @aguycalledpie 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice rap at the beginning.

  • @goochfitness26
    @goochfitness26 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro pushing people down stairs is diabolical 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @pimpnamedkane
    @pimpnamedkane 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe if we wait long enough we will get it just like GTA San Andreas Stories that’s coming out.

  • @TayshawnTryston1605
    @TayshawnTryston1605 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sweet is really a useless character in a GTA game.

  • @goochfitness26
    @goochfitness26 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sweet was ignorant but he is indeed one of the most loyal characters in gta history. Lost his brother, mother, many friends then his biggest loses were Ryder and big smoke I don’t think sweet ever saw that shit coming. I still don’t prefer sweet but I understand the character. Sweet is a really good character because a lot of guys who are in gangs are the same way or atleast were the same.

  • @SupportGamin2024
    @SupportGamin2024 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nah bruh I still dislike sweet,but I do see your point

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SupportGamin2024 Understandable, I’m glad we can agree to disagree haha

  • @11Megane23
    @11Megane23 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not to diss any reputable speedrunners out there, but when was the last time they slowed down and just played their game? I doubt it's a common occurrence and I don't think they remember the story as much and clouded their judgement over time 🤔

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@11Megane23 I honestly feel the same way. Like yeah, they may have played through whatever game 20 million times, but in almost all of those playthroughs, they skipped through the cutscenes and are therefore mostly familiar with only the things that happen during gameplay. Plus they typically skip all of the side missions unless they’re doing a 100% run. I assume people like you and I, on the other hand, usually don’t skip the cutscenes and actually like to experience the full story, so I’d probably consider an average player who may have beaten a game about 5-10 times more credible than a speedrunner who’s beaten it more times than anyone can count when it comes to that game’s lore

  • @TempestFuji
    @TempestFuji 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish there was an option to walk away since Gerald warns niko about messing with his family otherwise he will mess with his. Plus its tone deaf that niko turns up to the funeral to the guy he killed

  • @TempestFuji
    @TempestFuji 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    5:53 why is niko scratching his balls 💀

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TempestFuji Sometimes you get a little itchy

    • @TempestFuji
      @TempestFuji 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@DougTheDog6he is doing it just before killing Aiden 😂

  • @TempestFuji
    @TempestFuji 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "I think you've taken the tough love thing a litte too far man"

  • @Timquan.
    @Timquan. 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another way to look at it is from the black perspective. Main LA gangs like the Bloods and Crips are offshoots of the Black Panther party. They were originally formed to protect their commuties before becoming corrupted. Sweet in a way resembled the Original Gangsters, in his want to keep his community drug free and safe from police and drug dealer interference. When Sweet chastises CJ after being freed it is not just him wanting to fulfil his duties as a leader. It is him challenging his brother on a faulty state of mind that is often sold to young ambitious black people, "get yours and leave, fuck the hood." Sweet challenges Carl to do the opposite, to stay and help his community, to give back. Thanks to Sweet convincing CJ to help, the entire Los Santos saw a net positive gain through the elimination of unchecked police corruption and crack dealers. Had he shut up and moved into the mansion without arguement upon release Big Smoke and Tenpenny would have reigned unipeeded with the people of LS left to suffer.

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m not too familiar with the history of real life gangs apart from some in the Detroit area, so I never knew that the Crips and Bloods spawned out of the Black Panthers, but that makes total sense haha. Thanks for the history lesson, and thank you for giving your own perspective on Sweet

  • @zahirecoates
    @zahirecoates 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Only reason I dislike sweet because of his poor leadership like my dude your a gang leader not activist nor vigilante , the members ain't going to wait for to play catch up they need money too

  • @Hillwood365
    @Hillwood365 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sweet was literally the only character that helped you take over hoods (taking back the hood). Ppl are stupid.

  • @b.a.m.mdoublem1196
    @b.a.m.mdoublem1196 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kendl sees nothing wrong with dating someone from a rival gang yet she's supposed to be the brains of the family and she doesn't see how Sweet is trying to protect her don't get me wrong Cesar did turn out to be a cool dude but still that was reckless and dangerous dating someone from a Mexican rival gang when her brothers are from an African American gang themselves I mean what if she found herself in a situation where Sweet and CJ won't be around to save her like if Cesar turned out to be really abusive and tried to unalive her after having a fight or argument.

  • @insurgentbroccoli
    @insurgentbroccoli 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't get why would people criticize side characters for "not doing enough work". Even if characters had super intelligent AI instead of retarded and suicidal ones, they still would not get ahead of the main character. It is a rule of this type of games to not make side characters outshine the main character in terms of physical work. It is the player's responsibility to accomplish things. If a NPC does all the work while player is just chilling in the background, it will not be fun. Tommy did all the work himself while Lance and others just kept drinking stuff in the mansion's bar in Vice City, for example. Not just GTA games but other games do the same thing too. Scarface: TWIY, Saints Row etc. It does not matter who you are in the game's story, if your character is the protagonist then you will do all the work.

  • @Lucanio666
    @Lucanio666 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am gonna answer without seeing the video...Yes

  • @JAKEYT1.0
    @JAKEYT1.0 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the hate for sweet is overrated ngl he seems to be more of a relatable character imo. especially looking out for his friends and siblings

  • @madcapmakov2
    @madcapmakov2 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You wrestling mark! 😜

  • @madcapmakov2
    @madcapmakov2 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The mission “Tagging up the Turf” is the most wholesome we get out of Sweet. Tags along with CJ despite slight reprimands, rendezvous with CJ after tackling Balla turf and lends CJ money with a bro hug when CJ tells him that Crash took his money.

  • @l.tjustonsenack
    @l.tjustonsenack 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    dude i canot remember anything from when i was 4 basically i remember anything before the age of five years old i have two memory's from before the age of five one is pll that look like there little black sillalettes on the court and it look like they were rollerbladeing on the court in winter but i think they just running around on the road the 2end is from seeing a old school compost bin

  • @Dee-7414
    @Dee-7414 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For all of you who didn't live under these type of conditions and it seems so easy for you to just say. Why didn't you just sell drugs? You didn't live under these conditions. You truly do not understand the physical and psychological devastation. That takes place with this. And then people talk like this is a normal thing. This is not a normal thing. This has never been seen on earth before. The closest maybe to come to this is the Chinese opium wars. I could go on and on, but I'll let my plane with this. Forget about 3D HD. If Sweets does not take his stand and stand on his square. Franklin's mother O.Ds earlier than when she does. Basically, you don't get to play him. You won't get to meet Franklin. When it comes to the black communities in America, regardless of how one thinks of the gangs, these are the sons and daughters of the black community. It's one and the same. There's nothing separate other than the gang Does its own thing? But it's still the black community. Why do you think hell's angels are 1%ers? Because out of the 99% that are white America, here's the 1% that are living outside of the law outlaws. But they are still a part of the white community.

  • @JMS849
    @JMS849 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its funny because everyone i grew up with who was into this game and talked about it none of us hated Sweet 😂 he was the most gangster character in the whole game. It was only on the internet where i seen people hate him a lot 😂

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JMS849 Straight up though, it wasn’t until the internet decided he was a bad character that he was suddenly the most hated man in San Andreas hahaha

  • @LazyTacoProductions
    @LazyTacoProductions 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    GTA LCS is a better mafia game than mafia 3 lol

  • @TheNegrodamus89
    @TheNegrodamus89 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nah sweet was a hater just like his voice actor

  • @romasliv
    @romasliv 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i was mad at sweet in the last missions of the game but i began understand that he is right, he cant just leave his hood in the hands of big smoke crack bussiness, cj has this bad habit of running away in despair, cj is not a coward but he just give up hope quickly, this video sumarized my thoughts.

  • @spectre.shadows
    @spectre.shadows 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'll find you and fight you irl for this vid Jk, I played GTA3 on PS2 when I was a kid, but only played free roam and side stuff cus I was too shit to play the missions and beat them (also I mostly played SA and 4 instead, but 1-VC were cool novelties to me), a few years ago I replayed it and beat it on PC (Steam version not DE) and it was pretty good, you're always free aiming in that one so it's similar to how FPS games play, the worst parts imo are op weapons still being op even when NPCs use them, weird driving physics, and weak cars that blow up too easy Imo it's best looking on PS2, but XB has some improvements (less compressed textures, cars have reflections, better character models, etc), PC (original version) is less good looking but not trash it's very similar to PS2, mobile (10th year anniversary edition) is pretty shit looking but has some improvements (HD HUD) and technically has a higher graphic fidelity, DE imo is the ugliest but technically has the best overall fidelity

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m actually replaying through GTA 3 on PC for a new video right now and that’s pretty much exactly how I felt about that version of the game. So far I’ve actually enjoyed the experience for the most part, but I’ve only just entered Staunton so I know the honeymoon phase of the story mode is pretty much over, and now I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop in the form of a massive difficulty spike haha Either way though, it’s still a shame to me that they dropped the ball so hard with DE, I was really looking forward to GTA 3 being fun all the way through lol

  • @Shushkin
    @Shushkin 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You're definitely correct in that sweet doesn't deserve all of the hate. Loved the video, my friend! Happy i stumbled upon it in my recommendations!

  • @robertsonmcnaughton4850
    @robertsonmcnaughton4850 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sweet is indifferent when cj comes home, pissed your aren't repping colours, is presented with ways out of gang violence and crime, but opts to say youz a bitch cause Carl doesn't wanna hang in a fucking ghetto. I don't even know why cj puts up with Mike torreno for sweets sake. I hate sweet and his motives are selfish and very narrow sighted.

  • @dwaynejpeterkin
    @dwaynejpeterkin 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hate sweet he was holding cj back blaming him for not fighting for the hood yet CJ did more than he ever did when cj left everything went downhill and couldn’t see that sweet betrayed him until later he’s a horrible leader and crabs in the bucket

  • @Garindo
    @Garindo 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sweet is a misunderstood character and the grove street families are a misunderstood organization. I once saw someone claiming that if sweet allowed his people to deal Crack, or at least found a profitable alternative like Woozy did by investing into gambling. But that argument misses the point of what the groves were supposed to be. Unlike the triads or the mafia whose primarily purpose is to make money and to gain power the grove street families are more like a neighborhood watch and it's clear that sweet stuck to the original purpose of the the gang so it's logical that he didn't invest into criminal rackets, at least not on a big scale.

  • @monstermatt3453
    @monstermatt3453 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your videos have much lower views than they deserve man, I enjoy your GTA lore videos every time you put them up, (even though I still think Sweet is a buster) Hopefully me liking and commenting and watching on TH-cam Premium helps your channel out somewhat

    • @DougTheDog6
      @DougTheDog6 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@monstermatt3453 I appreciate the hell out of that man haha. Maybe one day my videos will reach the heights they deserve, but until then, I appreciate you boosting it in the algorithm

    • @monstermatt3453
      @monstermatt3453 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DougTheDog6keep it up bro 👏