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@@JepoyGarcia-h2z same clan as my D3 -- I'm not the leader and it's not very active

How much HP do you have? What Glyph levels? But if I were to guess, perhaps you're not hitting the corrections in proper rhythm. Are you able to record and upload a gameplay footage?

@@pichapao5337 I've got 47,859 HP, all glyphs are 100. what would be the best rhythm for skill rotations?

@gumikame 47,8K is in Town and before HP pot and rune bonus I assume? On my rotations, I just have to make sure that I tap Flurry before DT triggers -- because once it triggers, it will eat the damage bonus from Dance Macabre. You should also try to keep in mind when QAX is about to trigger and not allow Smoke Grenade to eat that too. This is why I my set-up was to hold Cold Imbue, and just spam DT > Conceal > Flurry, and not spam the combo with Smoke Grenade. The trick also is to hit as fast enough but not too fast that it would mess the rotations' order -- because it also happens that Flurry hits before Conceal and you again lose Dance Macabre that way

@@pichapao5337 will try to do this. thank you so much for responding!

@@Ser_VD doing it with a macro should make it more consistent. But it is against the TOS (although I don't know if they actually enforce it). You can also hold down some of the button/s. So if you have a NumLock key, I think you should be utilize that tech too. Or alternatively remap your mouse's side buttons too. One thing to note is that if you can trigger Flurry before DT activates, then you should be able to utilize Dance Macabre much more consistent.

@@pichapao5337 Got it, thanks for the reply

The 2 strict requirements for the build to work smoothly is 275 energy met, as well 10-second Death Trap cooldown. For the 275 energy, you need at least 212 in town, achieved either just with gear affix, or drinking Resource Elixir. Then the rest will be topped off by 10 stacks of Momentum.

@@coopidon some of us wants to push pits and at the same time don't want to play broken builds

Considering all of the other classes are at this level of game play except spiritborn, it’s obvious to see this is how the devs intended it. How does it feel knowing the only reason your build is good is because of so many bugged multipliers it requires no skill? I saw a TH-camr do a pit 100 on spiritborn the other day with NO GLYPHS. Yes, surely how the devs intended it.

@@pichapao5337 I totally agree. I play the cringeborn because I like the class fantasy and I would very much like for it to be fixed and on the same level with the others.

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@@DeezyTheMonster most especially if they are the DR champions you want to mow down quickly 🤣

@@Abram-i9t the Shroud version gives more damage but from my experience, the extra damage is only about 2 to 3-Pit tier difference between them

@@pichapao5337 thanks my dude. My first Diablo game and I actually had the same build last season. Happy to know it’s pretty good in this one. Wouldn’t have found out for sure without your channel. Thank you and God bless!

@@renancampos7947 that pair of gloves ain't bad but FoF helps a lot vs bosses as we get to stagger faster, as well as able to utilize Frigid Finesse much better. If you're keeping the gloves, amulet passive preference probably would be WM, and then Malice What Paragon have you reached and what level are your Glyphs? 88 is quite decent, I should say

@@pichapao5337 im paragon 265 and Pride/Chip lvl 93 the other glyphs 90, yeah i'm doing well just struggling with masterwork xD thanks for the answer and the build as always!

Crit Damage does not add anything to the build. Only builds revolving around Precision key passive would have any benefits from stacking Crit Damage. Even then, I think all builds are stacking %Damage per Dark Shroud Shadow to further boost dps.

@@pichapao5337 why not use both dmg sources ? I made a simillar build today wich uses a bit of all, crit dmg - dmg per shroud - dmg at vulnerables 58% just - poison + a shacko mask/harlekins mask for the 4 Ranks poison & Flurry Ranks same time, a Hakans Necklence for the 7-9 Ranks of poison dmg, and it rocks pretty well. Dash i had to replace by poison. Minefield + 20%crit on vulner. so i dont need so much on my gear, + 36% out of the 3 Ranks on the skill tree = 56% crit chance on traped enemys. Gloves + 1 Ring AS - DoT - Flurry/ Ring + CHC a simple Crossbow + MaxLife,Crit,Dext. Hardening Dmg per Shroud, 96% minefield size(100iscapped). 1 Dagger unique speed/WeaponRanks..dunno its name in English. + 1 simple Sword for the pure dmg MaxLife,Dex,DoT Hard. : DpShroud,minefield duration 45%. Thats it plus the 15%chanceon + 100%Poison Rune instat of Chip. It Works.

@@Pit-Sirikos the way damage stacking in D4 is a bit complex. They fall on certain multiplicative buckets, and Crit Damage, Vuln Damage, Close Damage, %Damage, all fall into one big bucket. %Damage per Dark Shroud shadow is no exception -- and out of all the sources, it has the biggest number.

@@pichapao5337 no way, vuln is a mutiplier. same as mainstat to crit dmg. Otherwise it would be impossible to reach M numbers of dmg, Example: 200% vuln + 1000% crit dmg would be just 1200% in your theory. but in real its more like 2 x 10 x mainstat : 100(%). The only dmg wich goes into 1 bucket, is dmg against ...slowed, stunned, poisoned, aso. vuln x crit x mainstat is the formula dmg per shroud is here the number 4 multiplier in the calculation. its like (1 big bucket) X (an other bucket) poison ovr time is an amp depanding on the strength of the initial physical strike(as its written on the tooltip for the poison imprint) like saying : 100k Flurry + 100%poison = 200k strike, + 200%poison = 300k dps x vuln (200% doubles the sum). the 15% chance rune can double the poison per poison stack, the 75% crit skill endpoint adds 75% poison to each stack whenever the initial hit was a crit hit, so its like 200% imprint poison can tick by RND to 400% and per 100 +75% if it was a crit Flurry hit = 175% +175% x2 if RND=true = 700% poison on top of the crit hit Flurry initial stike. poison is additional to the physical dmg. Dmg per shroud is the base multiplier of the whole pack of numbers. You can easy type it into a calculator and will get the same numbers as you get at the training dolls.

@@Pit-Sirikos Vuln multiplier is capped at 20%x. Rest of Vulnerable damage is added to the additive bucket. Same with Crit Damage (capped at 50%x)

@@DeezyTheMonster thanks, Deezy. It's been a pleasure playing the build!

@@apollo5756 it drops often enough from Zir. But it was another issue getting the higher attack speed 😅

@@kable84 Second Wind wouldn't work on Inner Sight as there's anti synergy between them. If I just want to be tanky for this particular build, I'd just put in Rubies and stick with Improved Flurry. I've been able to tank T8 Burning Butcher with that setup. Otherwise, you can go Preparation, drop Scoundrel's Leather for Tyrael's Might or regular DS chest of you don't have it, and go Second Wind

@@johnh5909 not advisable. You'll barely keep up with energy especially with longer fights

@@pichapao5337 ah damn I figured as much cheers though

Did some testing with Crown interaction and found that the average damage I was dealing was the same with or without Leyrana being taken.

@@koontakenteater Damage per Dark Shroud Shadow Temper bloats the %damage quite high.

it is getting over 1 million during fight ;)

@@lovefantasy0719 was planning on making 2 Rogues this season but there isn't really any major changes to grenades. Blizzard has buffed the ring but sadly, it is still very hard to fit into the build without nerfing yourself so just you can wear it.

@@pichapao5337 Grenade Rogue感覺很難打出更高的傷害 .. QWQ

@@brynlewis8227 this is what was on PTR. After balancing changes, it dropped to 25 stacks only

@@arbitrage2141 Improved Flurry is actually great for Infernal Hordes. Much more efficient than Advanced Flurry. If you slot in Inner Calm, it can have full stack uptime. Advanced is good for bossing though. For Vulnerable, currently utilizing Mired Sharpshooter. Also using Scoundrel's Leather for an almost one-button lazy build. Planning on releasing a video soon.

no hablo español

@@pichapao5337 He's saying that he built something for Rogue back in season 3 and he wants you to test it. Yes, I speak spanish and doesn't make any sense in spanish either.

@@beingbeyonddat oh I see. Well, yeah, aside from the itemization got a big overhaul in S4, in S5 Flurry will be reworked. Planners prior to it will not be optimal.

Yeah -- a lot of the stuff in the PTR would probably be tuned down one way or another Flurry Dash was quite fun too and would probably switch back and forth depending on the content.

Not quite. Few reasons.. 1. For this build (or any build for that matter), we don't actively look for the marked targets. They just happen. 2. It drops off the moment Inner Sight is active. 3. We have so many ways to cap or at least reach near the cap without wasting an aspect for it.

Yeah those are interesting indeed! Tempers are going to move around as well.

@@pichapao5337 Yeah its gonna be some good good changes for sure

Not just the Flurry ring, all the other aspects also state "Your Grenade skills" That 25%[x] would have been handy for sure.

@@pichapao5337 Might try to report on PTR since I bet the new Smoke grenade poison upgrade wont function properly with Versatility.

Yeah -- I think Uncanny Treachery can be interchangeable with Concussive Strikes. I might play it again once Surprise gets the buff as it was stated. Will see. I tried going with Uncanny Treachery (on pants) and Concussive (on gloves) but I really like reaching the AS breakpoint with Rapid. For the Concealment Cooldown, I used to use it a lot before the latest patch. I have yet to find another GA CDR helm and for now, that's more valuable than the temper for me. I'm still not sure too if I want +Dodge, +Agile, or +Mending Obscurity

Thanks and good luck with your pushes!

I really hope so too

I'm not sure tbh. I don't know anyone playing Twisting Blades this season aside from a few runs watching wudijo.

@@pichapao5337 fair point. It got a nice buff from the patch.

It does not

​@pichapao5337 do you know if weapon mastery does?

@@hunterpb1535 it doesn't either. Reason being, Weapon Mastery buffs your damage based on which weapon you use to cast said skills. A bulk of the build's damage comes from Grenades. Grenades proc from certain actions the player does (i.e, evade, spend energy, from Caltrops, etc), and those do not directly come from any of the weapons used by the player.

Figures, I've been loving the build, and now I have a +5 wm and +3 exploit :/ Guess I need to use another one

Damage to CC scales with Close Quarters Combat. Can consider Stun Grenade Damage but I've yet to figure out what the perfect balance is between that and Damage to CC. Damage to Close is probably the weakest of the 3.

Looking forward to it!! I still want to find out as well whether there's a good balance between having tempers of Stun Grenade Damage, and Damage to CC, while keeping CQC. The amount of Stun Grenade Damage per temper is quite on the high end compared to some of the other additives we get.

Thanks for the support! Regarding Heatseeker, I have not used the build to really give an opinionated feedback. I think I've always been an off-meta enjoyer. With regards to Devious and Fluidity, both of them are capable of doing an extra 10%[x] -- only difference is, Devious is applied via a debuff to mobs, and Fluidity is activated via Agility skills. The 150% bonus cancel each other out. Now their only difference is that Devious will never work on bosses, while Fluidity is tied to cooldown management only. Also, we're talking about Fluidity's update after mid-season patch, and not its current effect. Hope that is clear.

@@pichapao5337 I'm so glad about your response, bro. I totally fell you about not playing with the metas, despite I'm using HS, I think in the same way. About the glyph, cystal clear. I haven't figured out it would be a change on the glyph stats. Thank you very much!

The ring doesn't have the same multiplier as the aspects. It cannot compete with Elements and the additional temper. It is still getting a slight buff so I will still test it to be sure.

12/12 now. If you are tight on mats, I'd recommend going for 12/12 on the melee weapons first. 10/12 on chest and amulet (if you have +ranks), and rest can be 8/12. Your English is fine

@@pichapao5337 Thanks. Is it not good to keep using flurry without avoiding? I think there's a big delay in avoiding, so I'm thinking about it.

@@nulee661 main purpose is to activate Opportunists via Lethal Dusk. It is where most, if not all, damage is coming from. But with the updates on Surprise, it will definitely be about another 20% increase (estimated)

Either using double HP or HP + Advantage for the attack speed to reach the 14 frames for Puncture.