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Glad to have you :)

Yeah, I know, the GSZ unban was pretty shocking! I was anticipating it eventually but not with like a bunch of other changes all at once. Lol

This list looks pretty good! I highly suggest looking at my video on why Hanweir/Mirror/Oran better than Slayers/Sunhome! There’s a number of advantages. Is Slayers or Hanweir Better In Amulet Titan? | Powerpoint Video th-cam.com/video/2zensIaWjDs/w-d-xo.html I don’t think you’ll be impressed by the Cavern of Souls in the sideboard, considering Subtlety is the biggest issue. Maybe trimming down to 1/2 copies of cavern between main and side is better and frees up board space. You also don’t need a 2nd Ouphe. I suggest Force of Vigor and some additional Vexing Baubles, perhaps some Defense Grids!

Is there something missing in the original video?

@ I didn’t know if maybe the combo had changed it seems like most of the stuff I can find on amulet titan is from a long time ago, did you post a video on how the aftermath combo works cause if so maybe I just missed it and no worries

Here ya go! Guide for the MOST COMPLEX Amulet Build EVER | Amulet Titan Powerpoint Guide th-cam.com/video/1qmtt2EWUeU/w-d-xo.html

@@redfacedmenace Thanks!

Don’t like Analyst?

@redfacedmenace i never sty that version i was waiting a bit but it seem realy like a nice version :)

I think that makes sense!

Roxanne is a great addition. Let us know how it goes!

I think this is a pretty good change too!

I’d love a Lantern Control resurgence! Personally I always found the deck fascinating! Twin lovers are finally able to play then card again. Amazing

Honestly the Persist build is mostly a meme/for-fun. I don’t think it’ll be better than traditional. But I think it’d be really entertaining to play!

@redfacedmenace says I'm brand new to titan, should I start with a traditional build first, learn some lines and then move towards analyst? Or should I just start with analyst

I’d start with analyst tbh. Try to learn how the deck functions while goldfishing first, before playing against people.

I’m not that good at modern, but the malevolent rumble card is actually solid, right?

Rumble is ok, most feel that Explore is better.

100%

Im excited to see how titan will change with zenith being unbaned

I think spelunking is just better with Analyst as of this time, perhaps a single Dryad and Valakut are ok to make kills easier.

@@redfacedmenace ok thanks a lot, what would you consider cutting to make it work?

Nantuko is a super fun card. I definitely understand wanting at least one copy. :P

Ok, will you please subscribe then? :P

All of the music I use is from a game series called Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, I use tracks from Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky. They have tons of great tracks! I suggest browsing through the soundtracks, as at the moment I don’t know that exact song name.

Step one: resolve Titan, search for Mirrorpool and Lotus Field, copy Titan Step 2: copy Titan, search for Echoing Deeps (copying Mirrorpool) and Lotus Field Step 3: copy Titan with Echoing Deeps (on Mirrorpool), search TWest and Simic, bounce TWest, sac lands to both Lotus fields Step 4: transmute TWest for Pact, pact for Analyst, play and sac analyst and bring all the lands back Step 5: in response to the Lotus field sac triggers use Mirrorpool to copy Titan and search for Urza’s Saga and Shifting Woodland, sac Saga to Lotus field At this point you have established the Analyst Loop for infinite mana and infinite Mirrorpool activations. You can use a Titan trigger to search for Hanweir and loop it with Analyst to give all your Titans haste.

@@redfacedmenace thank you!

Yo thanks! BoshnRoll is awesome 😎

That is very true! However, that requires a 2-card setup (creature + Springheart Nantuko). The Analyst package allows you to make infinite titans simply from resolving a single Titan with 2 amulets in play, which is an extremely common scenario (far more common than having the creature + Nantuko setup). It’s worth noting that for the Analyst line you simply need to arrange for 2 Amulets (which the deck is literally built specifically to do with 4 Amulets, 4 Sagas, and 2ish Mycosynths). For the Nantuko combo you need an Amulet, a Bounceland, a creature to copy, the Nantuko itself, 2 extra mana to bestow, and a floating land drop. It’s actually kindof difficult to arrange all of that. Especially simultaneously having 2 extra mana and also still having a land drop remaining. Not to mention that it plays into removal spells. Though the Nantuko combo is easier to understand, it’s much less practical than the Analyst combo line. The Analyst combo is easier to assemble, yet highly complex in terms of execution. That being said, it is essentially a memorizable algorithm that is relatively easy to execute when you have it memorized or have done it so much it becomes muscle memory.

GGs! You played great. :)

I have tried it, and I don't know how I feel about it. On one hand I love it, but on the other hand it feels... clunky? at times. Probably not better than a stock list or a 1-of, but def fun.

Yeah?

@@redfacedmenace this deck is fire, it surprised me, gg

@@hanstler4198 Were you one of my opponents? Or a viewer? :)

@@redfacedmenace just a viewer. I haven't seen amulet titan gameplay like this before, this version of the deck feels very strong imo

@hanstler4198 well it’s probably not even the strongest version ironically. Amulet is just a very powerful deck!

If I wanted to win despite my deck choice preferences? Yes. I kinda hate Analyst tho

Last weekend rcq I dropped after round 4 with the biggest migraine headache of my life felt like passing out yeah fuk analyst.

You're not wrong, I kinda overlooked it We did beat LE however! :P

Aha I recognize that username :)

@@redfacedmenace yes its me! big fan! you also lent me 5 TIX when i needed it, so your super generous/nice to your fans <3

@@BalldoTM Glad to help when I can :)

Yes it does! It does everything the original land would do, as if it WERE that land. The only difference is that it always enters tapped (if you choose to copy something). This is also true for Echoing Deeps, with the additional fact that it is also a Cave when it enters.

I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I presume that he is searching the hanweir with the titan trigger, and the titan says "put the lands tapped", that's why is triggering it

What @matheusBBarni is correct. Titan puts the Hanweir in tapped! Hanweir would only enter untapped from a Titan trigger if Spelunking was in play.

My suggestion would be to play this list from HouseOfMana, seeing as he knows what he's doing and helped to make this version of the deck! www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6685404#online

Spelunking and "enters tapped" lands interact in a weird way. If the land that's coming into play has "This land enters the battlefield tapped" printed on it, you actually get to choose between the land's "enters tapped" replacement effect or Spelunking's "enters untapped" replacement effect. This means you can choose to either have it enter tapped (using the land's replacement effect) or untapped (using the Spelunking replacement effect). Sometimes you let the land enter tapped to trigger multiple Amulets, but other times you let it enter untapped to avoid triggering a lot of Amulets and making the stack way too big. If the land does NOT have "this land enters the battlefield tapped" printed on it, it will ALWAYS enter untapped with Spelunking, no matter what else is going on. For example, even if Arboreal Grazer says to put the land into play tapped, Spelunking will always make it enter untapped instead. If you are trying to copy a land with Vesuva/Echoing Deeps and have Spelunking, figuring out what happens is pretty simple. Just look at whether the land you're copying has "this land enters the battlefield tapped" printed on it. If not, Spelunking always makes it enter untapped. If the original land DOES say that, then you get to choose between the replacement effects (ie you get to choose to have it enter tapped or untapped). Cavern is bad against Subtlety and Harbinger of the Seas, so it doesn't usually end up mattering even if you do play it. Scapeshift is a 1 card combo with an Amulet in play and 4 lands to sac. You sac 4 lands to search for 2 Lotus Fields, 1 Simic Growth Chamber, and 1 Tolaria West -> float 9 mana. Bounce TWest and sac the rest of the lands to the Lotus Field Triggers. Transmute for Pact, Pact for Analyst, play Analyst, bring everything back, and combo.

@@redfacedmenace thank you so much

Grave troll would be fine imo. Looting definitely not! The thing that broke dredge was all these easy recursive things like Amalgam and Chill and crazy powerful Cathartic Reunion effects. Grave Troll is just another dredge enabler not that different from Stinkweed Imp, imo. Like, Lotleth Troll + Vengevine dredge was actually a cool deck. Then they pushed the mechanic into the stars with Cathartic.

@redfacedmenace TBF Titan also gets lots of buff from recent cards. I am just sad that Dredge is just not getting any love these days. Sidenote: Whats your thought on Analyst vs Non-analyst titan list? Which you do you think is better

Well that depends on your definition of better… Better in general/overall? Analyst Better for MTGO gameplay? No Analyst Better in paper? Analyst, unless you simply prefer not playing Analyst

@redfacedmenace Let me put it this way. What are the strengths and weaknesses of Analyst compared to older non Analyst build. I checked your video and the Analyst build seems to be overall better because you now have a combo that can dodge countermagic and the Analyst package doesnt cost a lot of slots too. I am looking to play amulet and still a lot of builds with Analyst, no Analyst or a mix in between.

Most of the benefit to playing WITHOUT Analyst is technical/preference. For example, not having to taking lots of time to click through the analyst loops on MTGO, not having to actually learn all the new complicated loops, not having to plan out crazy complex Titan into Analyst/Lumra turns, not having to play with the card Lotus Field, having better play around Moon effects (Dryad, more room for basic lands), and playing more copies of The Mycosynth Gardens. On the other hand, Analyst clearly adds a lot of power to the deck, including making our damage output infinite, looping into a win without needing to actually resolve a spell, looping Ring protection/Otawara/Boseiju even when not winning immediately, opportunity for new graveyard synergies, having a better backup plan in the face of Surgical/Necromentia effects, etc.

I totally respect that.

Have a list to a updated classic build? I was wanting to actually start to play this deck without all the loopa

I made a new video specifically to answer this question! Check it out: th-cam.com/video/PTK5K_W86p8/w-d-xo.html

Glad to hear it :)

Even the Titan double amulet kill involves setting up Analyst! I can definitely see where that idea comes from.

The next turn you recognized that by saying they should attack anyways lol fun stuff! Thanks for the videos! Best Amulet youtuber out there. Best discussion of your lines!

@@LakeVermilionDreams Well I definitely MIGHT have blocked when I already had ring protection... xD Oops I considered the 1 Nantuko but ultimately decided it felt somewhat winmore.

You're definitely not the only one who feels that way!

@@redfacedmenace Well what's your opinion? (I haven't watched the video yet)

Honestly playing Analyst is probably better, but I still don’t really prefer it.

@@redfacedmenace I thought the same as you. I was fond of the old version and I didn't like the version with analist. Now that I've been playing analist for a while I find both variants nice. But I totally understand your opinion.

You get an untap from each amulet in play. For example, if you play Simic Growth chamber with 2 Amulets in play, you will get to untap, float 2 mana from it, then untap again and float another 2 mana, totaling 4 mana overall.

Yes!

Just make a 2nd account and like it with that one! :P

I would never suggest it's not worth bothering! It's ALWAYS worth bothering. :) I have my doubts that it's better than stock, but it sounds like a really cool idea. The card that is most suspect to me is "Say its Name", which is essentially a bad impulse/mulch card on its own and likely unplayable. Altanak itself could potentially be playable -- it's a decent grave-ramp/big threat modal spell, but it requires quite some setup to work. Do you have a list?

The inf titans can find Hanweir and then you start looping Hanweir to haste them all

Sorry if it ruined the experience! I only do this for fun, can’t prevent myself from being human. Thanks for watching anyways, hope you find a channel that fits better with your expectations.

Sorry about that! When you say “too fast”, what exactly do you mean by that? For example, do you mean too much content on the slides? Not enough time to read the cards? Do I just talk too fast? Or did you something else entirely?

@@redfacedmenace Hi, for me is speak too fast, not because it’s not understandable but with the video editing there are lots of information in little time. I had more issues with gameplay videos to be honest, the presentation is fine. This comes from someone who is not a native English speaker and not a Titan player so this is not negligible of course, I have to think the lines that you explain, maybe someone who’s expert does not have problems.

@@stefanogiovannini8502 Red-Faced Menace does tend to talk a little fast, not that I particularly mind. Just wanted to comment that 0.75 watch speed and/or closed captions could potentially help you out :) Edit: I think for the gameplay videos it's less the speed and sometimes that the line options are not always distinct and separated. For example, he might say line 1 OR line 2 OR line 3 in quick succession, and if you are not paying attention they can blend together/overwhelm, since you do not have time to mentally process the pros/cons. Line 1 pause line 2 pause line 3 could fix that, but this is in real time and particularly on MTGO you are facing the clock. Food for thought.

@@foxlery 0.75 is an idea thanks. You are right about linesand not having the time to elaborate, I know there is the clock but the editing removes time here and there to have a constant flow, I do not think that is necessary and would prefer to see all the game, even with some “boring time”. Those seconds that get cut are the same that I have to stop to think about what is happening

@stefanogiovannini8502 well it’s funny because when I watch gameplay myself, I watch on 2x speed and prefer vids with the dead air cut out. I think it’s just a matter of perspective. I completely understand where you’re coming from though!

You know, I’ve actually played Titanshift myself too! I will say that Amulet gives you a similar feeling but is so much faster and flexible. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. :)

@@redfacedmenace Can't be disappointed in a deck that stays tier 1 forever of not tier 0. Just have to rebuy a few cards since I'm getting back into the game. Played amulet for a few months before LOTR come out and I was pretty successful with it. Thanks fir the video because there is definitely some new stuff to be learned

Glad that it helped! If you have any other questions/suggestion let me know!