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The Bible in not “square one”. History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books, and ONLY the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church, guided by the Holy Spirit, that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 4th century, and preserved these scriptures by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself? Peace!!!

@@srich7503 *The Bible in not “square one”* Spoken like a true catholic. *History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible* False dilemma. No one says that was His purpose. Here is His purpose. *Luke 4:43 But He said to them, “I must proclaim the good news about the kingdom of God to the other towns also, because I was sent for this purpose.”* Who moved those that penned the n.t.? The Holy Spirit. Remember this one? *John 14:26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit - the Father will send Him in My name - will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.* *the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible* False dilemma. Most of the letters/epistles circulating in the first century were considered authoritative already. No one had a list and no one was looking for a list. Those are your false tests. *the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books* False dilemma. Who said that was the standard? You think seriously God doesn't know His own canon? The second quill was put to parchment that is the inspired word of God. And God can and did lead us to acknowledge and settle the canon. It took you guys another 1400 years but hey, whose counting? *and ONLY the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time.* Eusebius has a list of accepted books, disputed books and rejected books. Some are in more than one list. Ya, some took longer than others and? By the end of the 4th century Jeromes n.t. is precisely what we have. His o.t. as well had 39 books of inspired canon. He translated the apocrypha but didn't consider them inspired. Now, here is where you claim he changed his mind. I'll say no he didn't and you'll cite 'what sin have i committed if i followed the judgement of the churches.' To which i'll ask if you've read the whole chapter. So we can skip to that if you prefer? Or you can go on and on about Rome 382 or something else that doesn't support your cause. I'm happy to do either. And what exactly do you mean by "growing?" Whose n.t. had something other than our 27 books? Please cite your sources. I have all 37 volumes of the church fathers. I'd love to look that up. *Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church, guided by the Holy Spirit, that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 4th century, and preserved these scriptures by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did?* Thats a heck of a runon sentence huh? You guys always want to take credit instead of giving God the glory. He saw fit to give us His word. Your church didn't compile the n.t. It was already there. It was recognized, not compiled. And your canon wasn't dogmatically declared until Trent. As to 'laboriously' hand copying? Sure thanks that helped. Did we need you for that, no. Why? Two names, Origen and Tertullian. The n.t. can be recreated from those two alone. Never mind the dozens of other ecfs both before and after them. *And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?* Your church exists today. Lots of false churches do. But the ekklesia was there from the beginning and i am part of that ekklesia. Are you?

@@ContendingEarnestly Thought experiment. Put yourself into the shoes of someone in the time of Christ. The year is AD 34 , you've heard bits and pieces of a story about a teacher out of Nazareth who was executed by the Romans. Show me square one. Do you seek out His followers or consult the texts of the New Testament which are yet to be written?

In John's gospel immediately after Jesus changed the water into wine at the wedding at Cana scripture says......and the apostles started to believe.

@@trudyfriedrich7416 believe what

*Biblically speaking, God build His church and appoint a shepherd to watchover His flock.* If by shepherd you mean a pope you have to prove that from the bible. You said 'biblically speaking', okay prove it biblically.

@ContendingEarnestly tell me why the Lord even bother giving to St. Peter a job out of 11 Apostles present that day? John 21:15-17 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. Dont you know whats the meaning of overseers? Acts 20:27-30 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

@@SaintMichael0825 *tell me why the Lord even bother giving to St. Peter a job out of 11 Apostles present that day?* He didn't give Peter a job. And He didn't do it that day. Jesus said 'I will give' not 'I am giving.' And all of the apostles, in fact every single believer has the keys. The rcc just mangles what those keys are. *John 21:15-17* And? Plopping down verses with no exegesis is meaningless. Tell me why you think this points to a papacy. *Dont you know whats the meaning of overseers?* Ya, do you? *Acts 20:27-30* Again, and? Prove your point.

@@ContendingEarnestly have you read my message? Why the Lord ask St. Peter to feed His lambs and sheeps? When theres other apostles beside him. And what keys? Show me a verse that every beluever has keys? Do you know how to read? So if you understand whats the meaning of overseers, then why you refuse to be subject to? Why try to be submissive? Why dont just obey?

@@ContendingEarnestly oh i forgot, the difference between me and you. I obey. I dont question God at all. For His will shall be done. Demons disobey, because they want their will to be done.

What are you even talking about?

@@erics7992 Galatians 1:18 was written not long after Matthew 16, and Colossians 1:18 occurred around AD64, about 34 years after the conversation of Matthew 16 took place. This video title fails miserably.

@soteriology400 Yur dating of the episode in Galatians is wrong. That occurred while Peter was still in Antioch and by 64 he seems to have been in Rome already for several years. Where did you get 15 days from?

@@erics7992 I already gave it to you, Galatians 1:18. Galatians was written after Matthew 16 took place. Your sources of Peter living in Rome, was fabricated. Peter was on a mission, Matthew 10:23, would have violated the mission if he lived there before it was finished. He died shortly after he wrote his epistles when he was living in Babylon, Egypt, near Jerusalem, where he spent a bit of time overseeing the stick of Judah towards the end. 2 Peter 1-2, and 2 Peter 3 Peter was actually writing to the stick of Judah in Jerusalem.

Answer your own question. What are you claiming about Galatians and 15 days after Matthew 16?

The fruit of Roman Catholicism has had 1700 years of errors, heresies, joining church and State, not giving the gospel message of truth, and putting christians to death.

Excerpts from Our Lord's 10/28/2006 message (in God speaks will you listen): "God is not the author of confusion. I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no man comes to the Father but by Me. No one enters Heaven without embracing All My Truth. There will be no schisms or fighting in Heaven. Everyone in Heaven knows the Truth. Do you realize one of the worst events in the history of the world was the protestant reformation? For it caused division in My Church. The author of confusion, Satan, spread doubts in My priests, like Martin Luther, who let Satan water his doubts, weeds grew, and confusion and schism came in My Church. This was not My will. How much truth do you want? 100%, 50% or 25%? Anything less than 100% of My Truth will cause confusion. There is only One Source of Truth, the Holy Trinity, and anything else comes from Satan."

No ! 'Outside of the Church, No Salvation' is a Catholic Dogma (Catechism #846). Our Lord, before Ascension, sent the Apostles to all nations and told them to teach people to OBSERVE ALL HE COMMANDED for salvation of souls until the end of the world (Matt 28:19-20), saying "Whoever believes you and be baptized will be saved, and whoever does not believe will be condemned (Mark 16:16)." Therefore, whoever rejects the teachings of the Church will be condemned, unless they repent and come to the Church.

@@hyeminkwun9523 Who says that the Lord spoke those words in Oct. 2006? What proof do you have that the Lord spoke these words to "someone"?

@@---zc4qt Please visit the website of 'God speaks will you listen' and read the messages there. God has been speaking to us through His chosen messengers, prophets, as written in Acts 2:17-18), to lead His faithful ones in this time of Great Tribulation so that they would not be led astray from the True Path.

No Catholic would disagree with you, Jesus is the invisible head of the Church, but he appointed a visible head with Peter.

@ the pope is the manager Jesus is the boss .

@@po18guy-s4s that’s awesome!

@@tessa7413 Let them defeat the bible!

You mean like how protestants removed 7 books from the Bible? The Catholic Bible has remained the same since it was canonized 1600 years ago.

@@mikejames303 they change the our father how can you say it remain the same . Deconstruction Zone has a different analysis of the bible .

@@mikejames303 I really don’t,t care what Protestant do , I care about the truth .

@@Bluets023 and given the fact that we havent had original Bible manuscripts for a thousand years, that the many copies of manuscripts we do have do not match each other exactly, that the many interpretations of the many copies do not match each other, that the Bible as you know it did not exist for 300 years AFTER the church itself was established…what/who do you consider to be “truth”? Peace!!!

@ Not the book that ,s for sure . And was it last year they changed the only prayer God gave the church . The Our Father ?

*Protestants trump up Jerome for his initial false canon (though he clearly reverses course later)* We simply use Jerome to prove the apocrypha wasn't inspired scripture. And i don't see where he changed his mind on that. And of course we don't believe the papacy since its found nowhere in the bible.

​@@ContendingEarnestly, sorry, dude, but the expertise of Jerome is to translate the Hebrew and Greek scriptures into Latin (as the pope had commissioned him) and not to decide which is scripture and which is not, which belongs to the pope and the church council who decided the final canon that included the apocrypha, and to whom he later submitted into. And sorry, dude, papacy has scriptural references and foundations in Isaiah 22:20-24 and Matthew 16:18-19. And if you subscribe to the idea that the apocrypha is not scripture, you surely don't know that you are subscribing to the rejection of the apocrypha by the Pharisaic authority who rejected and crucified Christ in the first place.

@@voxangeli9205 *sorry, dude, but the expertise of Jerome is to translate the Hebrew and Greek scriptures into Latin (as the pope had commissioned him) and not to decide which is scripture and which is not,* Well dude, he certainly did reject the apocrypha and that was after Rome 382. And he does it multiple times. If Damasus settled the canon why did so many people reject it? *which belongs to the pope and the church council who decided the final canon that included the apocrypha, and to whom he later submitted into.* There is no papacy in the n.t. Jerome translated the apocrypha but didn't consider it inspired. Luther did the same thing. *And sorry, dude, papacy has scriptural references and foundations in Isaiah 22:20-24 and Matthew 16:18-19.* No, the papacy doesn't have scriptural references. Draw a line down a piece of paper and put each term you think is a parallel from Isa on one side and Matt on the other. Then tell me which terms are similar. None of them are. Isa has nothing to do with Matt. However Isa 22 does have a parallel with Rev 3:7. Theres your parallel. If that was your best proof its not a very good one. *And if you subscribe to the idea that the apocrypha is not scripture, you surely don't know that you are subscribing to the rejection of the apocrypha by the Pharisaic authority who rejected and crucified Christ in the first place.* Another catholic anti-semite. Jerome rejected the apocrypha, as did Athanasius, gregory the great and many others. Are they ignorant of this alleged pharisaic authority? And, if youre a sinner you put Christ on the cross just like i did.

@ContendingEarnestly , so many people, really? LOL, if that's your idea of "so many people," then let me give you a parallel idea: 'So many people,' since the Council of Nicea, reject the Divinity of Christ and His 2nd Personhood of the Holy Trinity until today, right? Wait for some more...

@@ContendingEarnestly, secondly, so you mean Jerome is the Magisterium and not the Councils of Rome, Hippo, Carthage, and Florence that continued to affirm the 73-book canon, huh? (LOL.) Wait for some more...

Eastern, Oriental, Ethiopian! They are neither united nor universal.

.. True! .. Not even Saint Polycarp of Smyrna would "bow down" to the Bishop Of Rome/ So-called "Pope Anicetus", when he tried to get him to observe the novel time of Easter Sunday, in place of the time of The Pascha, appointed by God in Sacred Scripture for the Memorial of Christ's Sacrifice... Because it was Never a Teaching, or "Tradition", handed-down from The Apostle John himself personally. ( Lev 23 : 5.. Exod 12 : 1 - 11 .. 1 Cor. 5 : 7 - 8 ).

@@ChrisTian-tz3eq And yet Catholics can go much earlier: Irenaeus explicitly affirms that all churches must agree with the Church of Rome because of its preeminent authority. Are you not aware of this? Did not the Church at Corinth "bow down" and submit to Clement of Rome authority in the 1st century?

@@tonyl3762 .. Irenaeous was Not much earlier than Polycarp.. but in fact, came on later, towards the end of his life... And so what if Clement of Rome wrote a letter of admonishment &/or encouragement to The Corinthian Church!?.. Paul did the same thing.. and so did many others.. Even Polycarp wrote a letter to The Church in Phillipi! That doesn't make any of them the head of the Body Of Christ.

@@ChrisTian-tz3eq Get your facts straight. Irenaeus was not earlier than Polycarp at all; Irenaeus was a disciple of Polycarp and held to Roman primacy. I notice you don't even care to dispute Irenaeus' papism? :) Do you concede it then? Shall I quote Clement's letter to you to prove that mere "admonishment &/or encouragement" is a gross mischaracterization of his letter?? How well do you actually know his letter? His letter very different than Polycarp's. Paul was an Apostle; every Apostle was greater than every pope. Totally irrelevant.

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ok Pope Smeatonlight]house4384, we will throw in the trash 2000 years of history to obey yout as the supreme authority of the church.

What does infalible mean for Catholicism?

My brother the body of Christ is his Church, the Pope is the VICAR of Christ.

Joshua has not only studied the scriptures but he has read the book shelf behind him. I the dialogue in Matthew 16:13-19, Jesus asks "Who do you say I am". Who do you say Jesus is?

What? I guess Matthew 18:15-20, verse 17 where Jesus says “If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.” And which Church is it? It has to be a PHYSICAL building that holds the living God, the Pillar and bulwarks of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15. So, again, which is it?

Separation demands justification. Where none exists, justification must be fabricated.

Excerpts from Our Lord's 10/28/2006 message (in God speaks will you listen): "God is not the author of confusion. I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no man comes to the Father but by Me. No one enters Heaven without embracing All My Truth. There will be no schisms or fighting in Heaven. Everyone in Heaven knows the Truth. Do you realize one of the worst events in the history of the world was the protestant reformation? For it caused division in My Church. The author of confusion, Satan, spread doubts in My priests, like Martin Luther, who let Satan water his doubts, weeds grew, and confusion and schism came in My Church. This was not My will. How much truth do you want? 100%, 50% or 25%? Anything less than 100% of My Truth will cause confusion. There is only One Source of Truth, the Holy Trinity, and anything else comes from Satan."

@@hyeminkwun9523 please stop posting this unapproved content. If it is Medjugorje, there is no sign that it is true.

@@po18guy-s4s Why ? Do you think the message is false ? How about Medjugorje ? Do you doubt that Blessed Mother has been appearing there ? Do you know how many conversions because of Her Apparitions there ?

@@hyeminkwun9523 What is the source of these quotations? Even if approved, they are not binding on the faithful. Question: how can we expect those outside of the Church to comprehend apparitions, since they have none? As to Medjugogje, the local Ordinary has studied it for decades and sees nothing supernatural. No other apparition has gone on for decades without stopping.

You also said Jesus explicitly taught this. Parables are examples of lesson meaning they are implicit. Hence the definitions of explicit & implicit...

Jesus refers to purgatory in more than one parable, but you seem to think that Scripture contains all that Jesus said and did. Scripture says it doesn't. In His Wisdom, He left a Church so that all that He taught would be clearly understood.

I will pray that God will bless you and guide you in to all truth.

Said nobody in a state of sanctifying grace.

@ meaningless statement

@@donhaddix3770 Yes, your original statement was meaningless.

@donhaddix3770 you of little faith.. and proof. Attacking the Mother of God and devotion to her is a one way ticket to hell. Repent and sin no more