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As soon as I heard the German accent I went immediately to wikipedia and read all about Owen there.

You have to wonder how these kings didn't already know all the body of their wives since they were in I think all these cases the mothers of their children. To me it seems that strong, powerful women were often called witches or given demonic origins, and it just seems a way to try and explain the bad behaviour traits and lust for power and control that the male descendants often had. It always seems to have to be the women's fault though, in these myths and even the Adam and Eve myth in the bible.

I'm American and can trace my tree back to Henry III and beyond

Interesting. Thank you.

This was one of my favorite fairy tales as a child. I always wondered where it came from. Thank you so very much for sharing this with us all. Fascinating video. ❤️🍀🌈🙏🏻😇❣️

Don’t believe this 😂

That was really once again a very interesting video! The good old story about the mermaids, river nymphs etc. And Melusine again.... Well the story of Elizabeth Woodville, meeting Edward IV in the woodlands is so fitting...also that her mother was already seen as a witch....😉 So maybe our beloved Richard III was an aquarius, because he can't be a mermaid, right! 😊🧜‍♂️🧜‍♀️

My favourite dynasty .❤

Did you mention that it was Catesby's agents who ran after Henry Tudor in Brittany? I think that could have been the driving reason for Henry Tudor's deep resentment.

The tshirt fading into Langley closeup contemplation of the spine.. already hilarious 😂

I’d love to hear more about Richard & Thomas fighting over a mistress… juicy!

Loves sister Frideswide married Sir Edward Norris/Norreys of Yattenden, and became the mother of the Sir Henry Norris/Norreys accused of adultery with Anne Boleyn and executed with the others so accused in 1536.

Was Catesby the progenitor or relative of the Catesby involved in the Gunpowder Plot?

Thank you. Greatly appreciated.

Read John Ashdown Hill's books where he goes into this issue in detail. Catesby was Richard's lawyer and Henry wanted him silenced immediately. Catesby knew EVERYTHING. Tudor had proclaimed himself king BEFORE the battle (Think about that) precisely so he could murder anyone he wanted immediately after he got Stanley bullied or bought off into treason. Catesby had the receipts on the Eleanor Butler marriage to Edward and Catesby HAD to go!

Because he knew that Henry Tudors mother had the two princes in the Tower Murdered, a not Richard the Third as the boys were seen in the tower after Henry took the throne.

Thank you for this very informativ video about Catesby the cat!😉 It seems to me, that Richard III was not the greatest diplomat - putting all eggs in a few baskets. What seems funny to me, because Richard is so liked in the north because of his fair and wise judgement.... To me it looks as if he had become very paranoid, distrusting nearly everyone after he snatched the crown on a not really nice way from Edward V. After that loosing his only son, the prince of Wales and I bet all England knew that Anne Neville would never be able to give Richard III another child, let alone a son. And so they wondered, I guess. Right the next year the queen got ill and died - after getting somehow rid of Edward V and his brother it is no surprise for me, that England thought Richard III did the same to his wife... That is why I think Richard III became really unlucky and had a huge amount of bad luck. And maybe if he had married Elizabeth of York, putting the Woodvilles back on the political stage, he could have had some more years and a new prince of Wales? I assume that way the Woodvilles wouldn't had supported the Tudor any longer... ( I assume the Woodvilles would have agrred in auch a marriage. The first time they got to power through a kings bed, why not do it again?) But obviously Richard III disliked the Woodvilles a lot! William Catesby seems to be an interesting character. He obviously used the opportunity to rise and he had the bad luck that Richard III gave the titles and land of Hastings to Catesby - what made Catesby looking bad in the eyes of the public! Interesting is, that Catesby at Bosworth left Richard III has he refused to make a run and to fight another day. That tells me that it ws clear to Catesby, that it was obvious to him that fihting on would mean loosing, to die. So Catesby tried to choose life, while Richard III obviously choosed death. ( I am under the impression that Richard III was somehow already somehow dipressiv - his head wounds look to me as if he was basically executed on the battlefield, maybe really by a man just like him, Ris up Thomas, a welsh warrior? As if Richard III had given up.... I think he felt very lonely). It seems to me a little strange that Henry VII hated William Catesby so much, but was all fine with John Catesby. Henry VII executed William Catesby very quick - just like Richard III Hastings. I guess Catsby knew a lot, a lot of things Henry VII liked to be forgotten?! On the other side, Henry VII offered Francis Lovell pardon and Lovell must have had as much information as Catesby had... Richard IIIs reign was a wild time for the noble families.

Thank you. I’ve never heard of him!

Well done a very well researched article in which you have clearly put in the hard yards metaphorically speaking. All I would add is the irony that Henry killed the very man whose actions probably did as much as Bosworth to place the crown on his head in the sense that he and Ratcliffe by persuading Richard not to marry Elizabeth of York guaranteed Henry’s clear path to the throne.

@17:51 Margaret Tudor was Henry's older sister; she was born in 1489 while Henry was born in 1491.

Could Eleanor just have been a mistress?

Funny how the Butler family never came forward when Edward iv's marriage to Elizabeth Woodville. Sworn to secrecy? Made up to bolster Richard's claim to the throne?

I read John Ashdown Hill's book on Eleanor Butler but I could not find any real evidence.

Probably just late for the monthly stress can cause heavy or no bleeding possibly getting killed or baby to small she was not showing

Henry VII was a man, so it would have been hard for him not to have fallen in love with Elizabeth.

If this is Al narration, its a darn good one!

I think Henry the 8th was a good king too I think he was obsessed with having a son because if he didn't have a son his tutor dynasty would have ended and in his eyes then he failed his father I do think it was Catherine of Aragon who was the reason they could not have a healthy son people forget that she was in the Habsburg dynasty and we all know that the Habsburg of Spain were the most inbred and that's what she was and if you do your research it will say that the women in the Habsburg dynasty don't have the traits of being inbred like the men do do women can pass it on to their sons and I believe that is the reason why Catherine of Aragon could not have a healthy son

You updated voice is most pleasant. I look forward to you being comfortable presenting with your natural voice some time in the future. This is a subject that has enthralled for several hundred years now. I'm not of the opinion that we will never know more about the fate of Edward V & Richard of Shrewsbury. In my lifetime I have seen many unanswered questions be revealed. When that time comes the Ricardians will just have to move with the times or resign themselves to denial as their source of study. I'm looking forward to watching your channel grow. Good history presentations are addictive.

You do not mention his persecution of protestants? Anyone caught with a bible, anyone caught reading the bible or believing biblical doctrines. Anne Askew was opposing catholiscm! The Anglican Church he set up WAS catholic, except for the Pope. He also persecuted anyone who refused to declare his marriage to Katherine as invalid. Henry persecuted everyone, of all faiths.

I was always fascinated by Jacquetta of Luxembourg. She is one of the many women historians demonize and I like her even more now. Thank you for the breakdown.

Does the possibility that they were alive when Richard was king but then disappeared when the Tudor’s came to power hold weight?

That was a GIANT paragraph about the year he was born

👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ EXCELLENT WORK!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION.

I’m very intrigued by Richard’s life. After reading Kendall’s book I’m not convinced he killed is nephew. Tudor propaganda was really very good at giving him a bad name. I’m very curious as to why they were so intent on destroying anyone with any Plantagenet blood. You would think that Elizabeth of York, being Edward’s eldest child, would give her the best claim. Maybe they knew all of Edward’s children were illegitimate.

I fear what should and could have been a detailed, rigorous academic group has descended into a quasi-cult under the ascendancy of Langley. Many forget how wrong some of her early claims were (He never had a hunchback, he was blonde) and how she myths, like the R over the body (it wasn’t over the body, she just said that on camera, it was abt 10 metres away). Her part in starting the excavation was also overblown. They have all become blind to criticism, and their story is mercurial, quick to reflexively adapt to being proven wrong, not by conceding points, but by pretending they never said it. I appreciate you are striking a more measured and academic tone than me, but honestly its frightening the precedence being given to such shoddy historical research, and when anyone points it out they are elitist or sexist.

A voice of reason. Thank you. I've learned a lot from both "sides" of this debate, but so much of the evidence is itself faulty, and often also capable of being interpreted in a number of ways, that what really happened is almost certain to remain obscure. Even my own understanding of the way people behave now is of no great help in guessing what may have made people behave the way they did then. And does one disregard all of someone's evidence whether historical or contemporary, because of error, or try to see where the material might have been correct, and retain that? I much prefer your voice in this incarnation to the previous version. Thank you for working on this. A very good channel.

I'm working on The Missing Princes Project and I honestly don't know what to think about the princes disappearance. Even though I'm working with Phillipa Langley's group, I don't necessarily believe Richard didn't kill the princes. I lean more towards it, but we just don't know. There are a lot of things that documentaries don't mention that raise more questions.