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Senior product leader sharing what helped me grow my career and income.
I've led Product and Growth at companies in the creator economy, health, and edtech.
I have negotiated or helped negotiate over $10,000,000 in job offer increases and negotiated my own offers at public and private tech companies in the $1m-$2m+ per year total compensation range.
Learn to optimize your career choices and negotiate top compensation.
Subscribe to my newsletter for your unfair advantage in the tech job search:
Tech Job Search Newsletter: www.toptechnewsletter.com
Tech Salary Negotiation Coaching: feelvalued.co
Looking forward to seeing you all succeed.
I've led Product and Growth at companies in the creator economy, health, and edtech.
I have negotiated or helped negotiate over $10,000,000 in job offer increases and negotiated my own offers at public and private tech companies in the $1m-$2m+ per year total compensation range.
Learn to optimize your career choices and negotiate top compensation.
Subscribe to my newsletter for your unfair advantage in the tech job search:
Tech Job Search Newsletter: www.toptechnewsletter.com
Tech Salary Negotiation Coaching: feelvalued.co
Looking forward to seeing you all succeed.
Cold Job Outreach to Land Interviews In Tech
Read more outreach examples in the Top Tech Newsletter: Your Unfair Advantage In The Tech Job Search: www.toptechnewsletter.com/p/3-step-job-outreach-hidden-job-market
📈 Job market and job search articles at www.toptechnewsletter.com
🤝 Job offer negotiation coaching for tech leaders at feelvalued.co
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinlernell
3-Step Outreach System for Landing Interviews and Offers.
You can get jobs from cold applying, but candidates in today's job market are seeing much more success by creating connections at their target companies through either warm or cold outreach.
I spoke with candidates, fellow hiring managers, and tested this system with my coaching clients. This 3 step cold and warm outreach system has helped candidates land many top roles at top tech companies, from early career to top leaders. Designed to help job seekers break through the job market and secure interviews at leading companies.
The system focuses on:
1) Identifying three types of VIP contacts for networking;
2) Crafting personalized and irresistible outreach messages that stand out; and
3) Implementing outreach multipliers to expand connections and multiply job opportunities.
We'll cover common networking mistakes and mindsets that hinder effective job searching.
We also discuss the importance of in the hidden job market, increasing the chances of landing interviews and offers.
00:00 Simple Way To Land More Interviews
00:51 The 3 Mindsets Holding You Back
01:28 Unlocking the Hidden Job Market: Networking Secrets
01:59 Identifying Your VIPs
03:35 Finding & Researching Your VIPs
04:30 5-Part Irresistible Outreach
07:42 Turning Loss into Opportunity: The Outreach Multiplier
08:52 The #1 Critical Mistake: Underestimating Outreach Volume
📈 Job market and job search articles at www.toptechnewsletter.com
🤝 Job offer negotiation coaching for tech leaders at feelvalued.co
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/colinlernell
3-Step Outreach System for Landing Interviews and Offers.
You can get jobs from cold applying, but candidates in today's job market are seeing much more success by creating connections at their target companies through either warm or cold outreach.
I spoke with candidates, fellow hiring managers, and tested this system with my coaching clients. This 3 step cold and warm outreach system has helped candidates land many top roles at top tech companies, from early career to top leaders. Designed to help job seekers break through the job market and secure interviews at leading companies.
The system focuses on:
1) Identifying three types of VIP contacts for networking;
2) Crafting personalized and irresistible outreach messages that stand out; and
3) Implementing outreach multipliers to expand connections and multiply job opportunities.
We'll cover common networking mistakes and mindsets that hinder effective job searching.
We also discuss the importance of in the hidden job market, increasing the chances of landing interviews and offers.
00:00 Simple Way To Land More Interviews
00:51 The 3 Mindsets Holding You Back
01:28 Unlocking the Hidden Job Market: Networking Secrets
01:59 Identifying Your VIPs
03:35 Finding & Researching Your VIPs
04:30 5-Part Irresistible Outreach
07:42 Turning Loss into Opportunity: The Outreach Multiplier
08:52 The #1 Critical Mistake: Underestimating Outreach Volume
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Does anyone in the UK think this would work here?
How can one develop from a business analyst to a higher paying managing role? Given that you dont want to code yourself
Mobile dev here
29 yo chronically unemployed and furry cement encasement prn addicted me living on 3 figures a month in rural France: ah yes, how are we doing my fellow Californian tech workers?
47 yo, living in rural Czechia, employed by California tech. Your location is not that important anymore.
Lots of raving comments here. And I agree the advice in generally sound. But the most important graphic was the 1st one he showed of how many times he has climbed. It will take many iterations of attempting negotiations to get good at it. Dodging # questions is easier said than done and discovery requires experience and skill. That being said. You should absolutely make an attempt!
The music isn’t loud enough I can still barely hear your voice
LinkedIn limits you to 5 connection messages a month and I believe 30 inmails a month with LinkedIn premium? Do you recommend paying for LinkedIn premium and just being mindful of who you reach out to?
I would love to see a video breaking these down more in regards to things like: what these positions day to day is like, what education/career path should be taken to get into the position, what kinds of companies utilize these positions, or where to look to get hired into one of these positions.
It is really stressful to look at ebtry python jobs you should know beside asynchronous python with various frameworks beside it there is elasticsearch, reddis, kubernetes, docker . And they demand much more detail for a beginner level
Thank you for this gold! In Counter Offer #1, how do you leave it open? What if they say, look we don’t want to keep guessing your expectations and going back and forth - which seems like a reasonable frustration. How do you handle this?
After the first offer they give you, you take your time then come back with numbers. You just want to get them to give the first number.
Ideally you can keep anchoring them higher after that to let them get creative, but if you’ve got no other offers, then you start using each of your arguments to ask for a higher number. Then maybe one more counter for final asks based on what you’re giving up and a promise you’ll sign if they hit that number.
But again this is very situation dependent and there is no one size fits all tactic since there are humans you’re dealing with
Thank you for the video! What are your thoughts on AI replacing the folowing positions?cloud Data scientist, analyst, engineers and similar positions in cloud. I want to get into one of this jobs, with no IT experience. Thank you
It’s honestly hard to say. Many parts of those roles will be automated. Especially data analyst. Data Eng will take a lot longer. Data Scientists will remain longer than analysts and do more in depth research. But in the next few years they all have some demand
so basically you are a corporate slave then
Interesting
I think its important to re-iterate you have to be in a population of people that can take the risk of negotiating. I thought the advice is great for people that dont depend heavily on paying rent off. Of course if youre dedicated to spending your life in CS/tech, you will eventually get a role with negotiations. But some people prefer an initially conservative approach until they can break through initially. For instance, I already worked my first job in tech, but my second job only came recently after a year of job gap. Arguably a salary raise would make sense for the time without a job, but at the same time i cant risk savings over a few grand of salary increase.
Your personal runway both financially and psychologically and the downside risk are important factors in how aggressively you negotiate for sure. Great point
@@ColinLate Thanks. Ive always thought it was quite an interesting topic that tech jobs get paid in such a way. It seems like a lot of companies dont know what to expect so execs just go willie nillie with the company's cash reserves. Not much in the way of expectations and a standardized approach to software, is there. The EU and India pays differently salaries, but I think even they have to compete with the global market, too. I suppose its always just mirrored the signs of a very young and risky industry. People do crazy stuff with not just their software, but money too, and its not always the best thing...
I may have struck gold by finding your channel. I'm currently applying for finance positions, but most of the tips in your videos can still apply. I will definitely update this comment if your videos help me land something!
This guy watches too much animes.
Honestly curious what you mean
Welp... watching this was the most productive 45 min of my life! Your advice that our stretch goal "may not even be high enough" was spot on. I actually exceeded my stretch early by keeping my mouth shut, and being respectful (but slightly apprehensive) whenever they put out a number. That made my counter easy too because I could ask for a smaller (5-10%) increase and show sincere gratitude to get it. Felt very win-win. I do feel like this advice is more geared toward senior/staff and higher roles, and is sorta predicated on nailing the interview.
Glad you found it helpful! And nailing your interviews really helps but isn’t the only way to get the role. Just amplifies
Great video!
Thank you! I hope it helps
Companies need to give people 1 month of notice so employees have time to apply for a new job. Last minute notice or no notice is unfair for those who have kept the company running.
Many tech companies do much better than this despite having no legal requirement to do so. Multiple months of severance payments are common.
Interesting point about using other offers as the last lever for the top offer. Is there some more background to that?
No fancy story behind this one. It’s typically just because you only have so many rounds to negotiate. This path tends to get the first back and forth in a bidding war to start from a higher place. It then starts the first of 2-3 rounds of negotiation with your top choice from a higher first number.
I entered the job market in the early 2000’s, took me ages to break into IT and I was so desperate I would’ve made coffee for money. Now at 44, with a great career and 10 years working in FAANG I’ve been laid off. There is so much greed in big tech right now where billions are thrown at AI speculation and senior leadership have net worth’s to cover them for multiple lifetimes. Employees are disposable and undervalued.
Sorry to hear that. But the greed isn’t just in big tech. It’s in any business. Startups lay people off all the time even in boom times. Big tech only did it after 15 years or so of treating people really well. It’s just the faster cycle of businesses these days.
Greed is ruining the world….
love the content, very well structured and informative. appreciate it.
Thank you! I hope it is useful
Great content in this video and the others, thank you! Who would you advise to talk to for someone that has a desire to move up a level that would possibly take them out of their current area? I have doing data engineering/analytics engineering work for many years and often fill part of the decision makers role which is bad for me and the executive. It would be much better to be the one directing and not actually doing the work, but I would like to find out all the options possible. Any thoughts on where to turn first?
I’m glad it’s helpful! The best person to speak with is someone 1-2 steps above where you are. That could mean being in that different role you’re considering or your manager’s manager. It’s not always better being the leader than the individual contributor though
Those numbers are total compensation correct? That would put the base in a more restricted range such as low-mid six figures.
BTW, just finished listening. Great video. Thank You!
Yes. Base has much more narrow a band. It also makes up less as you move up
Thanks for making this Colin. I’ve been a military pilot for 15 years and going into the last round interview for my first civilian job. Whilst there are differences between our industries, you’ve given me some tactics and food for thought. Thanks. (Too bad aviation compensation is nowhere near tech…)
Sounds like a heck of a fun job though
WTF is deep tech?
Anything beyond conventional SW or HW engineering. eg foundational AI, autonomous vehicles and robotics, quantum computing, new energy tech, etc. It typically requires a deeper level of R&D with less certain outcomes.
Thank you. I find this video very information dense and helpful. I recently walked away from an offer which, looking in hind sight with your video, was poorly negotiated on my part. I think my key mistake was being way too transparent and divulging too much information too early. Specifically I told the recruiter my bottom line i.e. what's the minimum offer (+X% of my current comp) I'd consider an acceptable offer. And guess what, the offer came back almost exactly that amount. So even after counter offers and negotiating upwards with several back and forths, I ended up in a place where I still felt I was being undervalued and I would lose on opportunity cost and work life balance for an amount that was not convincing, so I ended up walking away. Unfortunately I felt the recruiter and HM had the impression that I was never winnable from how I walked away and they were both unpleasantly surprised I rejected their adjusted offer downright. Looking back, I did not evaluate my actual expectations accurately. I could see a world where we arrive at the final offer via a different route and I would have taken it, but I could also see myself getting a much better offer and be happy with that.
It’s hard to tell of course, but at least there is a different approach you will try next time. Many folks think there is no path forward when there might be if you understand how the other side feels. I don’t know all the context of that situation, but I have seen seemingly completely pulled offers be brought back to life through the right human, empathetic approach.
Well, your video confirms my suspicion. I did an A/B testing, basically sending two different types of CV: one very technical, data driven, but without education. The second one was an engineering "classic" two pager with education listed. For years 2017 - 2021, the second one was highly successful with ATS'es / humans. Starting 2021, ONLY the first one lands me jobs. What counts now is pure provable skillset AND soft skills that are (in my personal opinion) borderline sociopath - you just have to use all mental advantages over the initial recruiter (who often tells lies about the offer) and verify the truth on a technical interview. Now, if you overdose the first stage - you won't be invited for the next one. If you go too hard on tech interview, manager may see you as his potential replacement and you fail. If you try to become a politician, having a BS for every occasion - it's highly effective. Problem is, you will become somebody else after six months of sending CVs and selling yourself. So if you're ever wondered why engineers say "I'm dead inside", that's it.
Sorry to hear about your experience lately
What is deep tech?
Tech that is at the cutting edge of science and tech that requires a lot of research before leading to anything. AI was deep tech until recently. Biotech (DNA engineering). Quantum computing. Autonomous Vehicles/Robotics. Energy. Blockchain. Things that require more than your typical software engineering.
Thank you!
How applicable is this to other industries? For example, engineering in manufacturing
Unfortunately I can’t say since I’ve only used this in software companies.
@@ColinLateThanks for the reply
Can you estimate the year when the tech job market will improve by previous data? Just tell approx value
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Can you estimate the year when the job market will improve by previous data? Just tell approx value
Like any market, no one can really tell when with any high certainty, just IF it will improve
Are you saying $2 million is the sum total of the offers you received in that year, or you received a single offer for $2 million?
I have received offers with total compensation including equity ranging from 350k to over 2m. This video is a year old and those were from 2 years ago at the peak of the market. I’d say today it would likely be 800k-1.2m depending on the role. Many caveats. In terms of negotiated increases, it’s millions in just the increases between myself and the people I’ve helped. Most recently we’ve helped three people in a row get $80k or more per year in increases.
As someone who works blue collar, this entire video is nauseating. People live like this? You guys live life debating your value as an individual monetarily.
I worked blue collar for years. Including union jobs where you can’t negotiate. I appreciate some of the simplicity for sure. Ability to save was capped though and there was no chance to make more or do more. Some don’t like that. This is something you should think about every 3-4 years or so in tech. You don’t have to spend all your time worrying, just when you switch jobs.
Good points. Also the book never split the difference is a pretty good add on to this advise.
I’ve definitely read it. Silence, mirroring, labeling, etc all work very well for our clients
NEGTIATE
Yep
..so.. you are a grifter who doesn't worth or deserve such salary. good. now i know why a LOT of ppl that are in the IT doesn't have a good salary.
No one “deserves” these types of salaries.
guy is obviously a fraud. Cant find he is a "senior director" of what. Everyone can join some no name lame companies and get titles.
This is true. Anyone can join a small company and have a big title.
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This is such a helpful video. I wish I had seen this before getting my job with Amazon or moving on to a different company. Question - Does this work when you get a promotion within the same company? Do you ever negotiate with your annual reviews or just take the compensation that you are offered.
You do a different process. Some of the same principles apply. Start keeping a brag book, work with your manager up to a year before the promotion cycle to keep aligning with them monthly and do 30-60-90 day plan reviews with them when it comes up to a cycle to let them know you’re ready for the promo. One day I’ll do a video on this but check out a life engineered on TH-cam in the meantime
Wow! It’s been only 10 minutes through and I’ve already couple of insights I’m grateful for enough to like, comment and subscribe. Thank you!
Thank you! I really hope it helps
1:20 Literally 1 person went on and did really great.... that is hardly the endorsement it might seem.
Fair. It’s hard on people in different ways. But it’s very true that these downturns are measured in a few years while careers are decades long.
Man, this video brings up so many strange emotions within me as a 28 yr old who just quit my job, looking to change industries completely starting at the bottom of the IT world, never made more than $60k a year, but also made more than my parents ever have. Just seeing these numbers thrown around feels so weird. It's aspirational/exciting/daunting/demoralizing/interesting all together. It's a great video all around. I hope one day it will be helpful for me
Good luck, it's certainly possible. I started in IT Support and after many years am a Staff Software Engineer. I really love the work and try my best.
Don’t worry about the huge numbers. Honestly I’d be fine making a small fraction of this after making 40k early in my career. Just make sure you’re in the best boat you can get into to when you start to row. That matters as much as how hard you row
I watched your other video on top jobs in tech and data scientists were at $166k if I understood your chart correctly. Im in data at low six figures right now. I’m looking online and the jobs appear to be in the 65k-130k range and the higher end is as a senior data scientist. What can I do to get to where you are or close to it? Do you have resources? Recruiters? I feel lost as to what skills/certificates/other forms of validation I should actually spend time on that convert reliably to income. Then, who is even offering these high salaries? Is it just FAANG? How much are people faking it till they make it? My perception is that people in these jobs could run circles around me based on job requirements for even 80k jobs. I feel completely out of the game and it makes me sad and frustrated. It’s like there’s something I totally missed and I don’t know how/where to get it and what reality is vs my self-doubt.
Aha. To clarify: That other video had median compensation across individual contributor levels, not entry level.
The other aspect is that they are Total Compensation including bonuses and equity. Job postings have basic base salary ranges that don’t include equity as well. Look at levels.fyi
@@ColinLate Appreciate it man! Do you have a suggestion on where to look for recruiters? Does levels cover that?
HR: What projects have you worked lately? Colin: I've read books on salary negotiation
You’re not wrong 😑
HR: What skill are you good at? Colin: I am a pro in salary negotiation HR: What skill are you bad at? Colin: Everything else
If you can only be good at one thing…
I think someone at your level and experience can answer my question. I can't ask on blind so I'll ask here. What worries me is that how so many people with 10-15 YOE are also laid off. As a new grad I want to ask is tech even worth it? Everyone seems to be worried about the stability doesn't matter what their experience is.
It’s very hard to say. See my other video on the tech job market. But honestly the job market sucks outside of tech too these days. It just happened to tech earlier this time.
@@ColinLate Thanks. I'll watch it.
Selling yourself as if you were an appliance.
Except appliances work in my house longer than employees work in tech companies
Really interesting video, despite not even being remotely relevant to my (comparatively) miniscule income / career i'm currently in
Well this is mostly relevant to tech, but principles may still apply. I wouldn’t worry so long as your income helps you live well and meet your goals. People are never satisfied, even high earners in tech.
That intro tease honestly pissed me off. I'm out. Only snakes do things like that.
Interesting. I’m sorry to hear that. It’s a 42 minute video so I thought I would preview what was in it. This is what most podcasts start with.
What's your take on smaller job markets like Poland? It seems like there are much fewer opportunities to negotiate above market due to less venture money or FAANG competing for talent
I’m definitely less familiar, but in Western and Central Europe, I know negotiations are definitely possible. I can imagine you can negotiate, but the level bands are just less broad. There are many more roles there. I recommend following some of the tech creators in that area like Pawel Huryn. (My family is Polish in origin, actually)