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what about the norten expedition 2025 do you think they will have the same problem or it will be fixed ?

I'm going to nickname you ktm uncover

Looking at a 1050, any advice? Thanks in advance.

Hi What year model is Joe's 790?

What year?

Unfortunately, KTM in not a good corporate citizen and they have not been for many years. Their hostile takeovers and dumping of brands, staff and total focus on the bottom line is finally starting to catch up with them! Witness the HUGE turnaround in profit to massive losses last financial year. You can only take a dump on so many of your customers before they all finally wake up and band together. Years of substandard WP suspension on the Enduro range, the failed TPI experiment played out on poor owners who were told 'there's no issue, it's all you' only for KTM to admit defeat and fit TBI... and now the camshaft failures handled with complete indifference! The word is out, people don't want to Keep Tipping Money into the KTM pockets.

Many years ago Honda made an engine that was prone to cam failures and it dented their reputation. Their response was to build a new engine which many say was even over-engineered, to address the problem and restore confidence. This was the V4 used in the VFR's. KTM seem to prefer to avoid, deny, and refuse to take responsibility. Not a confidence inspiring brand.

Sounds like they are milking a cash cow until it's milked to death....best way for incompetent management to make money until they don't. By then they are on a boat with hookers what do they care about some companies reputation they raped to oblivion.

Ready to replace

Iam never selling my 950

I don't know about anyone else but I will never give the CCP my money especially when everything coming out of China is trash

Thats why..... most riders just choose to go with Japanese bikes and be done with it lol. Hip hip hurray for Japanese reliability

I like your rpm theory! I have a 2019 KTM 790R which experienced the camshaft issue. Long sordid story but I ended up replacing the engine with a 2020 Duke 790 salvage. I have hundreds of hours noodling this topic and strongly suspect the oil delivery system. Two possible causes… 1) in my case I’m pretty sure my oil nozzle got plugged, possibly due to a tiny metal particle, possibly from quick shifting. Unclogging this thing required a wire about the thickness of a human hair. 2) My wear occurred at the #2 cylinder exhaust valve which may be at the far end of the oil delivery system and therefore may receive the least amount of pressure. It would be good to track which cam lobes are being affected. But back to your theory. Before discovering my issue, I’d say I probably babied the bike and did not tend to wrap it out…i.e. sometimes tried to get the most range out of it by keeping the rpms just above “lugging it.” I have gotten 300 miles out of it. So you might be right. Such riding could have killed it.

The problem is the bikes won't go down in price. They won't pass those cost savings onto the consumer

China, oh hell no ktm is doomed... I'm going to sell my ktm this week done with this euro trash

I sold my KTM790 Duke and after 33k km because of this matter.

Just buy japanese.

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Does the 390s have the same issue?

They are going bankrupt. That's my opinion.

KTM is working on it 24/7 to revolutionize everything... be patient for this year ;)

What do u expect they sold out to china

I have a 2020 790 Adventure with 1900 miles I purchased from a dealer 6 months ago.. I stopped riding it due to everyone having this issue. It looks brand new and I even did some nice upgrades to it. It's never seen dirt. It's a pity really, I was thinking about getting a 1390 Super Duke when it came out.. That's not happening now.

China the end.

I was really interested in the Duke 990, even tho I'm not a fan of parallel twins, but with reliability issues, crappy tech pack rip off scheme, I'll be getting an MT-09 SP, and I know I'll be in good hands.

Kove proves quality can be built in China.

Interesting video. Thanks

I don't care I love my ktms and Yamaha sucks where I live so it's KTM or BMW or Ducati so no change

I still want the new Duke 990 once the EVO model is announced. Haven't heard any of these issues on the platform yet. However, if the dealership won't even acknowledge the camshaft issues and can't guarantee me a warranty service (in writing) should issues occur, I'm walking away. More corrective action and open dialogue from KTM with consumers would also be reassuring.

Me gustó tu remera. Y espero saber cómo termina la historia de las levas 👍🏻 Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷

This whole issue scared me away from buying a very nicely setup 2021 890 Rally. I picked up a 2021 701 instead, which is a great bike but I wish the 890's didn't have this problem, as that rally was really nice...

Honestly, the most realistic problem is the wrong drilled Oil channels in the head that leads to underfeeding of the jets. Drilling your jets bigger really won’t fix it, that’s just stupid. Correct redrilling of the channels would rather. Atleast after looking at the failures and following the traces left in the head the issues have to be between the upper oil feeder in the head and the oil jets themselves. And those are the oiliness that go threw the head underneath the distribution plate. Everything else makes no sense. A bit to my background, iam an Engineer working for Airbus. And we learned how to analyze failures on an Aircraft and make proper statements about it.

Where can i get that t-shirt? 🤣

This is what I called a rubbish channel. Don't you know that Yamaha, BMW, etc, are also made in China??? Get your facts right.

Subscribed. Really want to hear about this first hand, waiting for the interview. Sold my 901 six months ago, before I heard of any problems. I was lucky.

Great shirt 🎉

I'd like to know what percentage of bikes have the problem. Is it one out of five? One out of 50? Knowing that could change how you view the risk of buying one of these machines. If KTM made some changes to the platform but the problem is still happening, it suggests they don't fully understand the root cause. They need to get this under control. They aren't the only vehicle manufacturer with serious issues these days and the general global economic malaise isn't making things any easier. There is a long list of motorcycle manufacturers that have disappeared over the years and it would be a shame if KTM were added to that list.

Excellent theory about who purchases these bikes. As a regular commuter, maybe…maybe, they just aren’t designed for that purpose! Could they just be designed for full out throttle, therefore compromising the commute aspect?

I recently, dropped by a dealer to try the 890 ADV ( 2024 ). The engine was rattling and clicking, as if it was an old - going to pieces Harley. To my question if this is normal, the dealer responded YES, they are like this..... Well, I've ridden the Duke 690 some years ago - nothing like THIS was there. So yes - till KTM SOLVES the reliability issue - I keep away 🤷‍♂

KTM should come good. People have given them hard earned money at a premium price for a substandard product. Moving to China sure isn't going to help with reliability issues

Hello! First of all, I live on the border with Austria in Germany. 10 minutes from me is a development center of Pierer Mobility 😉😉 Many people write here that the solution would be to build the motorcycles in Austria again and not in China. I am telling you now very clearly and unambiguously!! The problem of poor quality is not the production location, but the quality of the parts that are used. If the parts are simply bad, it doesn't matter whether they are installed by Austrian or Chinese hands. Proof of this...?? Years ago I wanted to buy a 790 Adventure (Made in Austria!!) and the KTM dealer openly listed all the problems for me. Everything was there, engine... electrics... workmanship... every component was affected. It should be clear that I didn't buy a KTM... the problem is Pierer himself. He only thinks about profit at all costs. Regardless of whether the quality suffers. For years it worked well, now the bubble has burst and Pierer is being served the bill. I am excited to see what happens with KTM in the future. Things are not looking good at the moment... Greetings from Bavaria 😉😉

Good chat mate

I think the 890 (2021) were built in Austria. More recent I’m not so sure. A 2024 390 is assembled in India.

Early 1980s Yamaha TT & XT250 use to shit their cam gear... It was an oil pump issue.. There was no internet to hear about it back then...

KTM Marketing is brillant, they chose Orange to disguise their LEMONS!

I can understand the WHY when talikng saving capital. Really !!! KTM are all abot profit margin and their shareohlders. Peirre Mobility are not abot their customera... Yet people still buy them.. I just dont get it. Go get an exc 500. you wont get much change out of $16,000 AU.

It is hard to do a recall when you do not have a fix. To replace worn cams with the same product does not solve the underlying issue. It is obviously not simply a case of poor hardening, after all parco lubrite hardening has worked for every other manufacturer in hundreds of millions of engines for over a century. Design fault issues in lubrication systems are an entirely different matter. How a pissy little filter can help does not make sense and obviously does not work. I sympathise with the manufacturer, CF Moto whose reputation will be diminished by their association with this loser company that is destined to the scrap heap of history. I hope before its demise it at least sells off the great brand names it acquired and then tarnished.

Good point for the oil pump. Or maybe relocate the jet ? Or add an other lub port ? I can not believe that KTM engineers see stuck with this issue that s just killing the sales .

This make me think that if the 790 and 890 have the same cam issues then probably the new 990 will have the same problem, they are all parallel twins. By the way i love your shirt!

The irony of this is that the CFMOTO bikes that use this same engine don't have this problem despite their chinesium reputation, I own an IBEX 800 just came from service and asked them to inspect valves for this same reason (out of pocket of course since I've owned it for "only" 40k miles) and they look pristine, there's also another youtuber that checked his don't remember his name or mileage but its easy to find, I know its not the solution you guys want/deserve but for what its worth, if you need to fix your bike on your own maybe its worth swapping the head and cams for the IBX ones? should be a direct swap