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@@mathijssnellen8498 hey, Yes! Check out this video to see what that looks like! th-cam.com/video/uAMSZgwb_hM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=W0Wb6q6wZX_0zOly (4:45)

@@JackSole17 Wow thanks so much for the fast reply. Also wonderful sounds you make out of the guitar and pedals. :)

@@mathijssnellen8498 no problem! And man thanks so much! That means a lot!!

Check out this song, cool style, huge solo, not typical “worship genre”, but I couldn’t disagree more in general, happy to chat about it more tho, what specifically do you mean? th-cam.com/video/KxlFXWD5thM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zNZasBvUrvzDhXFt

@@darwinsaye yeah I’m with you on that! I still love my American sound! I wish it was stereo, but I mean at that price I can just get two aha

That will be awesome! I hope they come out soon!

Thanks so much for this advice! I’ve been really thinking about doing more research into cab sims! Could be interesting! What cab sim would you recommend pedal wise if I end up going this direction?

​@JackSole17 The Mooer Cab X2 is my recommendation due to it having stereo output and giving you more control over the loaded IR. It doesn't have a power amp sim but that's usually not needed. The NUX Solid Studio is another option and it includes the power amp sim. There are also cab sims that aren't IR loaders but they're pretty limited. As for IRs, Ownhammer is the most commonly used but it's not hard to make your own of nearly anything as long as you have access to the cab or area you want to capture. Nearly anything includes things that aren't guitar cabs and specific areas too. For example, my favorite IR is of an unknown speaker in a supposedly haunted cave.

@@ViviSectia awesome yeah that speaker sounds cool! Thanks again I’ll look into these options!

Yeah kinda wish I went with the dreams, but thought it would be nice to have a different flavour of amp then I’m used to, either way though yeah fender amps have always worked great with my pedals!

Man this is gold, thanks I will be trying these setting later today!

Yeah I haven’t found one that I’m super happy with either, but wow yeah the quad quartex is supposed to be a top player, and for that price I’m really surprised! I’ve been getting a lot of recommendations for the milk man amp, what you tried that and what did you think?

@@JackSole17 Haven't tried the milkman...In some cases Ive had the same amps for 40 plus years. Still play through my 67 twin reverb, my late 60's marshall, I still have the JCM800 halfstack as well but really don't use it anymore...lately, Ive been playing either my Friedman BE50 or the Twin sister. The twin sister being the amp I play most of the time. Since its been 40 years plus playing like this, there's always a time when a modeler comes up that I want to try. At this point though, I never have a hope or replacing the tube amp,...more like something to practice with....but even at that point with all the options....I just grab my acoutsic and practice and write...just like I did way back in the day. There's a lot of boutique amps Ive been looking at...I play bass too at times these days and even there I take the 100watt tube bassman over the 800 watt rumble...even in terms of the fet transistors in the rumble vs tubes....Tubes win every time.

@@metalmover yeah I hear that, I love my tube amps and I really just use amp sims for TH-cam videos so I can make them late at night and not bother anyone aha but anything recording wise or live I still use my tube amps every time! And also, that’s an impressive collection you have!

Hey! Yes this definitely helps, I really appreciate you taking the time to write this! I’ve been getting so many great recommendations and I love how simple of terms to made this topic! Lots to think about here thanks again!

@@JackSole17 Hi again Jack. Here's an update on what I'm doing with my new pedal board build. I've built several boards already, all striving towards the same goal. I'm looking to get all my amp tones from pedals and be able to run direct into a mixing desk or DAW, and have it sound like my full-blown live rig. Since I've acquired some TC Electronic gear for the board, I'm hearing something I've never noticed before. Some of the amp in a box pedals I have don't sound as good going direct, as they do going into am amp. For example: I have a few EQD pedals that are killer when plugged into my old Fender amps like the Monarch, (Orange OR-120), or the Talons, (Marshall JCM 800), but going direct to the PA, they sound a bit raspy and lacking. However, I have discovered Crazy Tube Circuits Crossroads, and Space Charged V2 sound good in both applications. With those two pedals, I can have Fender blackface clean tones, and add the built-in OD to bump it up to a kind of driven British amp tone. Then The Space Charged can take that up to a really good version of driven 70s Marshall tone. My point here is that all amp in a box pedals aren't created equal. They may lose something of their sound when going direct, so you may have to use your ears when it comes to selecting a pedal for that purpose. Here is a way to put that to the test when shopping for a pedal like this: When you go audition a pedal in a music store, ask to try it out in an amplifier that has an effects loop. Plug it in to the front and set the amp to a clean, flat setting. If it sounds good there, then unplug it from the front of the amp and plug it into the effects loop Return jack and try it there. Does it still sound good? What you are doing there is removing the preamp section of the amplifier and going right to the power amp. This would be the amplified version of running direct to a mixing desk, or DAW. That was how I sorted out which of my OD pedals would retain their fidelity. Most did not. I was surprised that the CTC pedals came though so well. Good luck in your tone quest.

@@harleyhexxe9806 Oh this is an awesome update! Yeah I will try that with my over drives, and see what ones sound the best! Again I really appreciate that advice! It’s definitely a never ending pursuit of tone! Good luck as well aha

I’m really intrigued with the milkman amp, it’s been mentioned a few times! I’m definitely going to check it out!

Wow that’s so much for all the info! I’m definitely going to give this some thought! When you record with this setup do you go direct or do you mic up the cabinet?

@@JackSole17 I do a few different things 1) (simplest): Amp models/pedals/fx -> IR loader (sonicake IR) -> Interface 2)Amp models/pedals/fc -> clean power amp - guitar cab (the 6x private jacks) -> mic (sm57). 3) (lots of cables/complex) Guitar -> multi fx with "4 cable method" -> mult fx preamp send -> (interface and DAW with plugins on its own channel) -> multi fx return (amp model OR amp model bypassed) -> multi fx delays/reverb -> multi fx master out to another interface input -> DAW IR or the IR loader pedal -> realtime monitor out and recording. The last one requires you to have a good interface with low roundtrip latency, a fast computer, and quality cables/power amps. I personally have a 3rd gen focusrite 18i20. Sometimes I use the last setup and instead of the last input to DAW I run the plugins and multi fx mix into the power amp and into my cab (all plugins and multi fx have IRs OFF)

@@frjhracing awesome yeah lots to think about here! Again I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this! Thanks again!

Both great guesses, but neither! Aha I want to try both but I’m a little on the fence about the onward, it looks and sounds awesome, but just not sure if I’ll get it! What do you think of the onward from the demos so far?

Yes!! That would be awesome! I really can’t wait for these next pedals to come out!

Oh interesting, yeah I’ve never tried to run mine through an amp, but yeah a power cab would be awesome to have kicking around!

Yes!! Great marketing for sure “A clean neutral end of chain solution”! Let me know how if it solves all of your problems!

I’ve done a little research and when there is no actual pre amp being used the signal sounds quite and dull, have you tried this? What’s your experience with this! Thanks in advance!

@@JackSole17 the Nux sounds good with nothing else - I had to turn off the “power amp” section when using a preamp pedal because it was darkened the signal too much. I run a crayon or a twin twelve pedal into a cab Zeus. The preamp pedals definitely give it flavor, but I wouldn’t say the sound was bad - as subjective as that may be.

@@jeramybarry2013 Right yeah using those pedals as a preamp sounds fun!! I’ll definitely look into that! Thanks!

Definitely interested in both these options! What one do you use and prefer?

@@JackSole17 i dont have either iv just been researching which one to buy. These are the 2 cheapest ones. The boss ir2 has eq on the pedal and a effects loops but with the tonex i can use pretty much whatever amp model i want

@@Durkhead yeah that awesome! I actually love the sound of the boss ir2! Thanks again!

This! exactly, I did the same!

Awesome yes that’s great feedback for the ToneX One! Is it stereo in and out? Definitely interested in the tonex stuff tho! Thanks!

@@JackSole17 it's mono in and stereo out for the built-in reverb, it's not a problem for me because I use it before my stereo time-based FX, it responds great with mono pedals in front like Fuzz or overdrive

@@Alex_Martz right yeah I could totally put it before the delay and reverb kinda thing! Yeah that’s that awesome!

Cool I definitely will look into that! Sounds like what I’m looking for! And yeah true unlimited is hard but more then the ruby would be nice aha

Right! Glad I’m not the only one! And yeah I wish I went with the dreams now! Thanks for the input!

I feel like I’ve had similar struggles with low headroom on my UA Dream. I pretty much live with the gain on 8-9 o clock max.

@@marcuslee2186 oh yeah me too. I’m at 7-8 on volume

@@marcuslee2186 yeah I love the UA brand but I might move away from UA for my next amp sim!

Yeah, I think that would work for sure, definitely worth looking into, but I wish there was a super simple and cheep ish pedal platform style amp in a box! I don’t want complicated for this part of my setup! Thanks so much for the input!

Sweet that’s exactly what I was explaining! Thanks for the tip! Do you use one?

That thing looks a Sweet! Thanks for the tip!

@@JackSole17 if you decide to try one out, make a video, i'd be curious what you think of it.

@@LogicBand if I get one I definitely will, it’s really caught my interests! Thanks again for the input!

@@JackSole17 its great but you were asking for transparent...

@@theAristocrap yes! If it could do both well that would be awesome but yeah it needs to be able to go more transparent!

Thanks man! Very much appreciated! Yes that exactly how I use it, but when I keep the volume low and turn the output up it gets noisy which is weird and I still find that I battle the eq a lot on this pedal, but either way still a great pedal!! And yeah amps are still the best option! Thanks again man for the sub!

If you want a consistent output try a JHS color box

You still need something that acts as an “amp” in between your board and your interface! It will sounds really awful if you try and go directly into your interface!

@@JackSole17It sounds like you just need a cab/speaker sim pedal. There is no preamp or power amp modeling to add breakup that way

@@desporma1interesting I haven’t thought of that! So if I just use the ox pedal by UA it would sound just like a clean guitar and I could use an overdrive pedal to add color?

Aha right! I’ve wanted a OX BOX since it came out but wowzers that’s a steep price!

Right! Yeah! That’s the dream! And yeah I can get a decent sound out of the ruby, but I struggle to get it to sound clean and flat! The ACS1 sounds amazing on your board!

@Andreas_tropicalwinter there are no "flat" guitar amps... even "FRFR" guitar amps/cabs are not flat response or full range. For that you need to get a good 8" studio monitor and a modeler.

@@joeltunnah I didn't meant flat without any character...since it's still a guitar. Some Amps are just a bit too scooped for my likings and putting some like a BE-OD in front, which has no option dialing in mids, makesnit hard getting it to sound right. A high headroom amp and no overdrive possible would be great 😅 But I mean yeah, Milkman does make thise amps by now...

Sweet I definitely will, I know they are fairly pricey, but that’s never stopped me before if it’s awesome aha thanks for the suggestion!

Can I use this with my Presonus audio interface? I’ve tried so many amps in a box none sound great. Thanks!

Sweet recommendation! These weren’t on my radar at all! I’m pumped to look into them! Also yeah, aha video was shot durning a heat wave, and that sound is my dehumidifier, my apologies!

@@JackSole17 No problem. I'd recommend using even a simple noise reduction effect available in the free Audacity. You can run it on auto, or you can use a noise gate to remove below certain db (usually less -40db before any other effects should be enough).

@@theAristocrap sweet thanks, I’ll look into that as well! Much appreciated!

I hear what you’re saying, and I think it’s an interesting conversation! I have a little light hearted challenge for you! Recreate the ability of this board with only using “Unique” brands! (I am genuinely interested to hear about unique pedals) Also I say this because Hologram and chase bliss were at one point small “Unique” brands, then because of how amazing their stuff is they become more “main stream”! Also I have a pedal from a much smaller builder on the way that I can’t wait to share about so stay tuned for that!

Yes!! That would be an amazing small board! I love how they compliment each other! Thanks for the comment!!

HX effects definitely offers several unique creative flavours to the market no doubt, but I find it to be a more traditional take on effects and the chroma to be a more fresh and modern take on multi effects! Both awesome and worth the price just different, and I personally am trying to fight out where they fit with my own work flow! Thanks for the discussion! Very much appreciated!

Thanks @buzsman ! Yeah i think you’re spot on saying “quality is close” and that’s why the little details matter so much nowadays! Anyways thanks again!

Yeah I completely agree! The HX is way more versatile, but the chroma Console is more interesting to me!

Man that’s awesome! I’ve been subscribed to you for a while now, I love your channel! And yeah that’s awesome, I think this thing is going to be big with guitarist as people catch onto it more! Again thanks for the comment, it’s a huge honour!

@@JackSole17 Haha...thanks man! I guess we learned something from each other... ✌️

Aha Definitely!

Thanks so much! I really appreciate it! And yeah midi is really cool, but it is an over complicated technology I my opinion!!

Thanks Patrick! And yeah you got that right!! Aha

I do think midi’s cool but I don’t always like the work flow! Kinda finicky aha And yeah I like simple a lot as well sometime, my gig board has 4 pedals on it right now aha Thanks for the comment!

Thanks so much I really appreciate it! It means even more coming from you stereo Mike! Aha great TH-cam name!

Aha, When you go to the preset menu, which I show in the video, just hold the two middle buttons and it’ll save your preset! Good luck mate! The intent for the title is to say making and saving presets are this pedals secret weapon! But I can see why you’re frustrated tho my bad!

Appreciate the reply. I’m a happy camper now. Love my Chroma Console

It's interesting that I've owned a compressor but never really gravitated towards the sound! I like to be the one controlling the dynamics! And the power supply is a One Spot CS-12! Thanks for the feed back!

Yes, I have noticed that as well that the presets do not engage unless the pedal is on when you enter present mode! I am not sure what the intention is there? I'm going to look into it!

Keep me in the loop as to how you get on!

I used a midi controller on my last board (Check it out on my channel) and it’s lots of fun, but I didn’t really end up using it a whole lot and don’t miss it at all so far, but I definitely will go back eventually aha

@@JackSole17 you could use it at least for MIDI Clock to sync all tempos for all time based effects

Thanks so much!

CIOKS DC-7! It my favorite power supply yet! I’ve had the Zuma and onespot CS-12 and the CIOKS is definitely the best!

@@JackSole17 Cool, thank u for the knowledge!