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Ceased too soon?! | East Coast - Failed Franchises #15
Hello & welcome to the fifteenth episode of Failed Franchises. In this series I look at train companies that have failed at their franchise agreements or have been criticised by passengers & industry alike. Today is the third episode of my mini series on the East Coast Mainline and its operators. Today I am looking at East Coast and discuss whether or not EC should be classed as a failed franchise.
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  • @NolanChance-ux6sd
    @NolanChance-ux6sd 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Fabulous video, very informative great job vanmanyo! Btw the map looks great how’d you find it? I make custom maps for networks and that one reminds me of one I did in 2023

  • @Snaily
    @Snaily วันที่ผ่านมา

    _I am a mature person and will not make the joke_

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      We were one letter away from this video being very different...

  • @admiralpegasuscc
    @admiralpegasuscc วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tories have been an absolute shambles for our rail network. Last labour government didn't help, but the promise of re-nationalisation under the next labour government may repair a small part of the damage done.

  • @AndrewG1989
    @AndrewG1989 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Was East Coast an open access rail operator run by the DfT after National Express lost the East Coast franchise and before Virgin Trains East Coast took over.

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nope! Open access operators are completely different. Hull trains, grand central and lumo are open access operators; East Coast was a normal train operator that was technically a franchise - just one ran by the DfT.

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As far as I'm concerned, the fact that profitability, customer satisfaction and punctuality were at an all time high (at the time) for the way it was run under the Department of Transport, it was an inconvenience to the government in wanting to maintain the franchise system. They consciously didn't want the railways to be renationalised, I feel that this was because they didn't want the "Operator of Last Resort" to be a long term solution. Therefore, when it was handed back to the Private sector, I was dismayed by the move, but also predicted it would go the same way as the previous National Express franchise, terminated earlier than planned due to over promising and under delivering. In the latter case, I was proved right

  • @andrewbutler6477
    @andrewbutler6477 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Atw done their best to provide services here in south Wales they opened my local line to ebbw vale the old pacers gave a good service in the valleys for so many years tfw when it came in had a network that was starved of investment for many years only now is the new trains entering service the old sprinters are knackered after 40 years amazing service so good to see new stock entering service my late dad was a guard in the valley lines back in the 70s when the network was on its knees and some of the lines came very close to closing with the old knackered 116 units

  • @AlasdairMacCaluim
    @AlasdairMacCaluim วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder how history will look back at the current east coast company LNER - I used to really like them but their recent changes to ticketing, making it more complex and expensive, and their cessation of services to Glasgow have put me off.

  • @AlasdairMacCaluim
    @AlasdairMacCaluim วันที่ผ่านมา

    I loved East Coast. The points scheme was great.

  • @Ben-yz4jh
    @Ben-yz4jh วันที่ผ่านมา

    for much of the time East Coast were running I was doing a job that meant I travelled up and down that line from London a lot. Consequently I earned tons of the loyalty rewards including 3x completely paid for weekends in Edinburgh and several cases of wine and champagne. Obviously was quite sad when it all disappeared pretty much overnight!

  • @EuroDC1990
    @EuroDC1990 วันที่ผ่านมา

    East Coast was fantastic and their first class was absolutely out of this world. I remember travelling from Edinburgh back to Doncaster with a friend in first class and having had two meals each, a 1.5 litre bottle of wine each (it wasn't busy so the staff just left the bottles on our table) and a few spirits each my friend pretty much fell off the train. LNER is decent but East Coast was much better.

  • @lordbrit4630
    @lordbrit4630 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been binging your videos. Love them. Everything you do is great!!! Thanks for the content.

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you!!!

  • @Mrmayhembsc
    @Mrmayhembsc วันที่ผ่านมา

    The East Coast was better than the National Express East Coast. However, it still had issues with poor rolling stock ( lots of times I went to open a door only for it not to open and had to rush to another door) and was often late when I was using them ( there has also been an issue at Peterborough, where, technically, they are on time even though it will be late by the time it hits the platform). I will state that station improvements were nice, though they were done with national rail. I personally never understand the love for this brand. Was a failed one in my books. Do not use LNER much these days (moved down the ECML) but when I do that seems that final the franchise we need.

  • @Droidtopiateam
    @Droidtopiateam 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    they ordered class 376 but ended up southeastern

  • @oliverstemp9132
    @oliverstemp9132 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They should have bought those Pendolino

  • @SWRural-fk2ub
    @SWRural-fk2ub 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Voice over rushed and after rerunning a section a couple of times I gave up, sorry.

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sorry to hear that, do check out my newer stuff to see if I have improved :) I am planning on redoing the Chiltern video as, due to it being the first ever "doc" I have done, it is certainly not my best video!

  • @paulwheeler4283
    @paulwheeler4283 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant video highly informative one slight point can you repeated yourself twice around 9 minutes 40

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! Yes I can cut that out later today 😆😆

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And I have just cut out the repeteating section so it should be cut out once processed. Thank you for brining it up!

  • @mattsandilands6380
    @mattsandilands6380 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why ? Money. Filching our money into the offshore accounts of the rich.

  • @joj.
    @joj. 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bizarre that the ECML franchise is basically just: • Private Operator that performs mostly okay, probably loses money and declares the route unprofitable. • Quits or gets stripped of contract. • National Operator most people like, performs well and still cheaper than privatisation. • Repeat

    • @ethmister
      @ethmister 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's the flawed system where the private bit winner wins solely by either offering the money or least subsidy. Problem was every ECML didn't get what they said

  • @bobmoneyman
    @bobmoneyman 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like the next failed franchise video Will be about virgin east coast

  • @lolfunnyusername
    @lolfunnyusername 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I noticed that at 9:40, you mentioned about 3G wifi on the 225 sets despite 4G was introduced back in 2009, twice.

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Whoops! Apologies there 🫣

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And I have just cut out the repeteating section so it should be cut out once processed. Thank you for brining it up!

    • @lolfunnyusername
      @lolfunnyusername วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Vanmanyo No problem! It has been processed now and it sounds better!

  • @LennoxWAlexander
    @LennoxWAlexander 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey I think you should look into First ScotRail for your failed franchises series.

    • @just_some_guy_innit
      @just_some_guy_innit วันที่ผ่านมา

      you must be thinking of abeilo scotrail mate, first scotrail was an amazing franchise in comparison to abeilo which was an utter failure since day 1

  • @grapejuice116
    @grapejuice116 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish i was old enough to have a job as i would like to support your channel, anyway, Great and interesting video!

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! You're supporting me simply by watching and commenting so don't worry about anything else 😀

  • @christopherli135
    @christopherli135 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Let's hope that LNER stays in operation.

    • @michaelhearn3052
      @michaelhearn3052 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not so. The East Coast route is now run by the government as Operator of Last Resort. OOLR.

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelhearn3052 Which what was for East Coast... Though now theres 3 open access operators competing with LNER. Lumo going full express, grand central going to sunderland via the durham coast line, and hull trains to well hull.. If theres still room might as well cram a few more on.

  • @andrewbutler7681
    @andrewbutler7681 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I made enough journeys with East Coast to build up (more than) the points needed for a full journey all the way from London to Inverness and have very fond memories of the service.

  • @katrinabryce
    @katrinabryce 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They can't be considered a failed franchise, because a, they were not a franchise, and b, they didn't fail. The privatised operators before and after failed, and it had to be renationalised again.

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good point! I can't think of a good alliterative name to call EC so failed franchises will have to do!

  • @ajfrostx
    @ajfrostx 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    East Coast was great! They had a bunch of cheap discounted tickets and the food service was good - both disappeared immediately with Virgin. The only failure here was for the government to insist at the 3rd attempt at privatisation for idealogical reasons - which of course was also unsuccessful.

  • @BlueKangaroo2229
    @BlueKangaroo2229 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Staff morale and senior management were both poor. The potential was there to achieve a lot, but the government were determined for a nationalised operator to fail.

  • @somax1259
    @somax1259 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember when i was younger watching East coast 43s run through my local station, I love that livery for the nostalgia and its simplicity

    • @oliverstemp9132
      @oliverstemp9132 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was designed to easy to rebrand. So VTEC changed it completely with all over vinyl

  • @jackbarrowclough1739
    @jackbarrowclough1739 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fuck the Tories

  • @Class43
    @Class43 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    as a 43 my i never liked or hated east coast the livery was extremely bland to so thats my opinion

  • @CoastToCoast_Trains
    @CoastToCoast_Trains 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    East Coast is by far my favourite ECML operator. I have been riding on the ECML ever since 2009 and I have fond memories of East Coast. They were splendid with great service and comfort (in my experiences). Cant wait for the next instalment of this ECML Mini-series on VTEC (If there is one) Great video.!

  • @jameswright7284
    @jameswright7284 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Let's hope VTEC actually taught them a lesson having a nationalised route might actually do some good. Must say I never rode on East Coast but remember getting the ECML South route on Steam as part of TS2015 and really enjoyed it

  • @andrewgee5449
    @andrewgee5449 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As always a brilliant video

  • @andrewgee5449
    @andrewgee5449 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As always a brilliant video

  • @Ovalo-Railways
    @Ovalo-Railways 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Finally im on Time to see this video

  • @paulroach2538
    @paulroach2538 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    GNER ' travelling with them was a sense of occasion ' they uesd to do the Scottish Pullman 'from Kings Cross 15.00 departure 'York 'Newcastle 'Edinburgh. 4hrs i think Monday- to Friday 'York 1hr 40 minutes

  • @misterpwood
    @misterpwood 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Used to use the ECML on the regular, and have to say, GNER was definitely the best. Not including BR of course.

  • @AberdonaiBrum101
    @AberdonaiBrum101 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wanna watch the documentary nowwww! :D Yk where I can get it?

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's some episodes on TH-cam!

    • @AberdonaiBrum101
      @AberdonaiBrum101 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Vanmanyo Cheers! :D

  • @tjwillow20
    @tjwillow20 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2;10 thats my local station.

  • @Saint_Dan132
    @Saint_Dan132 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    15 my goodness , yes this one still hurts i love learning about English railways I'm Scottish you see x

  • @olivergeorge4394
    @olivergeorge4394 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wake up, Vanmanyo uploaded!!!

  • @dylanismail6455
    @dylanismail6455 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello hopefully a good vid like usual

    • @Vanmanyo
      @Vanmanyo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hope so too!

    • @dylanismail6455
      @dylanismail6455 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Vanmanyo it was fact better than good

  • @bus131
    @bus131 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hopefully the Class 222 fleet will move over to Cross Country once they come off lease with East Midlands Railway.

  •  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here in Germany, National Express is one of the best private operators. But from what I hear, that's despite their British owners, not because of that. NX Germany as an organisation was built by a lot of people who live and breathe railroads and that really shows.

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    @DKS225 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I only travelled on East Coast once during my 2010 UK visit and that was to and from York for a couple of days out of my month long visit. Going to York i travelled on an HST working to Aberdeen and on the way back was a bit of a problem as on the day i travelled back to Kings Cross there was signalling issues at Darlington and going back to London was a bit of a headache as a result. The return run was on a IC225 set.