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Desi Cooney
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 11 มี.ค. 2020
Owner and Head Coach of Outlier Strength & Conditioning
3 Steps to Bench Pressing 300+
I've coached quite a few powerlifters over this milestone, and here are my 3 biggest takeaways.
Questions? Let me know in the comments below!
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Good insight.
I appreciate the respectful way you went about this but you really don’t have a clue about proper Conjugate training and to be fair almost none who run the system apply/applied it’s principles correctly and that includes Louie himself. Too much overload, too high of intensity for max and dynamic effort work, way too much volume in accessories and poor choices for gpp. When applied from a mindset of maximizing training efficiency instead of trying to hit everything with a sledgehammer and applying each area of performance with the only necessary volumes and intensities to create desired adaptations with minimal fatigue a properly Conjugate is by far the most optimal training system for not only field sport athletes but powerlifters as well. As far as max effort training goes the rotation of lifts is what allows you to train at 90% or more intensities year round with minimal fatigue and wear and tear on the body. What many lifters don’t understand is that all the reps they perform with comp lift at submaximal intensities actually carry over far less to a 1rm than a less specific but still similar movement performed at 90% or more. All this volume with the comp lifts is essentially inefficient hypertrophy work that beats most people to hell over time. The only thing this is good for is getting to practice your set up over and over again but this can also be accomplished with dynamic effort training in a way that is much more efficient and actually has more carry over to your 1rm. Also most conjugate lifter fall in love with overload exercises for max effort which is absolutely pointless for raw lifters and does nothing but boost their egos and generate unnecessary fatigue. As for the dynamic effort, it’s really just the icing on the cake that maximizes neural efficiency, allows for more practice of setting up the movement, gives the body time to recover from previous max effort training days as well as possibly providing a some hypertrophy with a very good stimulus to fatigue ratio. To get these adaptations from dynamic effort work though you have to really give it your all and lift as explosively as possible which again many conjugate trainees slack off when performing their DE work. Dynamic Effort training also has to be performed at the proper intensities which changes from athlete to athlete depending on their genetic pre-deposition to display power. Bands and chains are also crucial to maximizing rate of force development which absolutely will vary over to a 1rm. You can only apply maximal force force for a certain amount of time so if you can decrease the amount of time it takes to perform a heavy rep at a given weight then your 1rm will be slightly higher. Again, just icing on the cake but when lifters cut out the dynamic effort work they more often than not do not progress at the same rates and notice a slight decrease in performance. Hopefully one day someone will put PROPERLY applied Conjugate training on the map but unfortunately the system tends to attract mostly dumb meatheads who just want to look and feel tough like their westside heros and or take the go hard or go home mindset and completely miss the point of the program.
Always open to having my mind changed by someone who, as you put it, hopefully comes along and properly applies the principles in a way we haven't seen before
@@OfficialTeamOutlierAppreciate the open mindedness. I do understand the reasons why most people think poorly of the system. The dumb training and the cringe over the top try hard personalities of most of its followers drive most people away and rightfully so. A big pitfall of Conjugate is it is a complex system that requires a tremendous amount of training knowledge to self-program. All these variables make the program very easy to screw up and just one area of performance being trained improperly can wreck the entire system. I myself originally fell in love with conjugate but myself did not initially get the best results because I was doing many things incorrectly. I held the same positions you did for many years until I actually saw the rapid increases in both size and strength from athletes who switched from more traditional strength / powerlifting training to an intelligently put together Conjugate system. They also accomplished these things all while getting less beat up, reducing their fatigue levels and improving their athleticism significantly. Training is also more fun which inevitably will become more and more important the longer you train in order to reduce staleness and keep you from burning out mentally. I still believe traditional methods do work and may even be more optimal for lifters just starting out but the stronger you get the more important efficiency, recovery and variation will become in order to minimize fatigue and continue progressing to higher levels of strength while keeping your body injury free and staying motivated to keep training hard.
This was a good video thanks.
Absolutely no chance the average guy can do 300. The first thing that matters is your wrists ability to hold that weight...and good luck if you're a 5'9 150 pound guy.
It's a fair point and it WILL be much harder for them for sure--as I stated it will take a lot more time and training for them than for others(maybe more than they feel is reasonable or they are willing to put in). BUT...the average male, especially the average gym-goer, is not 150lbs.
@@OfficialTeamOutlier the average adult male is 5'9 199 pounds with a 40.5 inch waist. You get those guys back to a health waist and yeah the average guy at 15% body fat would be about 150 (believe it or not, 150 is actually me rounding up). Gym-goers are skewed because even average guys stop going to the gym. In part and I don't mean to be rude. But because they hear things like this from well meaning people like yourself. And I mean that in the bet way because videos like this I believe are well meaning. The reality is maybe 25% of men have the potential with 10 years of hard training to get a 300 bench. And I mean hard, 100% dedication. That's a heck of alot more than will ever bench 300 of course. I doubt even 1% of adults have reached that. It's a huge deal. It's enough at some gyms, guys will stop what they're doing and watch your lift and want to talk to you after.
That is true though. Pana is only 146 but he's totally ripped.
Great advice and work ethics, thanks man Btw, lower the intro volume, my ears were abused there
noted 😂
Great stuff!
Training should always be advancing and improving.
How much muscle is needed to bench 315
that's a pretty tough answer to quantify, but I think to put it simply, "significantly more than average" in key areas around the pecs, shoulders, and triceps. Most of the time if someone can bench 315, you can usually tell by looking at them.
Yah, I just started doing wristmax pro, fatgripz and Armwrestling Champion Devon Larratt’s judo belt pronation for stronger forearms. Was looking ways to improve my grip strength and not depend on wrist straps for deadlifting as much. I also got those captain crunch grippers yet I saw many comments claiming that doesn’t help as much as the other exercises though.
I have a whole video on grip training on my channel that you might find interesting!
Concise and to the point. Thank you
You learned nothing from Louie. On a max effort day you take an exercise, or the variation exercise for 3-4x of singles over 90%. You can't use an intensity of over 90% for more than 3 weeks, bc there's too much stress on the nervous system, and your lifts will drop. This has been researched. Louie was taking lifters off the streets of Ohio and turning them into world record holders in the 80s, it has nothing to do with equipped lifting. And it also doesn't sound like you understand the true concept of bands and chains. You really need to research more.
It's not "conjugate periodization" it's concurrent periodization where you try to develop all physical capabilities simultaneously training in a conjugate manner where you change exercises frequently. You can in theory train in a conjugate manner using linear periodization or you can train with only a few limited exercises while using concurrent periodization.
Conjugate may not be the best for powerlifting* but for sports, athletics, and general strength, health, and fitness. It is the best.
Yeah, this new generation always thinking they created some new idea. This concept is not new just so you know
At no point did I claim to have invented the pin press 😂 merely pointed out it's not a popular option in the current powerlifting zeitgeist for whatever reason. Exercises go in and out of fashion like clothes.
@ no, you didn’t. And I wasn’t speaking about you in particular. I did say this new generation. Don’t take it personal.
I agree with the logic . On my 5th week of these now for a 12 week cycle.
What’s the difference between that and a two board press?
For some people they will feel pretty similar, but for most people the pin press feels harder/stricter especially if you set the pins as low as you can. I think the difference in feel mostly comes from the fact that you can't "sink" a pin press the way you sometimes can with a board press.
@ Curious, because I do pin squats, but not for bench . I’ll take it out of consideration, thank you for replying
Any form advice for those with tall skinny builds (specifically I have long legs and arms, but a short torso, great for deadlifting, not so much for heavy squatting). I have the strength to do it already I'm sure, but my form and mind connection to the form is several months to a few years away.
Couple things: first, focus on technique practice with lighter loads to find what feels right for you before you try to load it up, just focus on the fluidity of the movement and finding depth. Second, I would explore being slightly more leaned forward than a shorter person and possibly a lightly wider stance as well.
I hate Larsen press. My ex coach gave me that exercice and it brought me nothing. On the other hand, I love bench press with bands.
Different strokes for different folks! If you're already strong in one aspect of the press that a particular variation emphasizes, you probably won't get as much out of it. I do love me some bands on occasion!
@@OfficialTeamOutlier That's true and that's why it's hard to tell which variation is the best.
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For a conventional deadlifter, do you think it's better to train the hinge after primary deadlifts or on a secondary session ?
I usually find myself putting RDLs on a secondary session!
@@OfficialTeamOutlier ty ! Do you feel these need to be pushed or just kept as a way to maintain a good hinge? Since they are a very fatiguing exercise, do you also find yourself programming those at low set counts and low rpe ?
@@chechecheko I think it definitely depends on the individual how much these can be pushed, as well as the role they are serving. If they're purely there to build muscle for certain phase or something, I could see higher sets and RPE. If they're being used more for the hinge practice, yea definitely lower RPE (5-7ish) and fewer sets (2-3)
Im so close Just 45 lbs away
Killing it, man!
I checked openpowerlifting, I could not find Desi Cooney...?
Full name is Desmond!
@@OfficialTeamOutlier thank you!
No one brings this big time intellect better than DES!!!
Nice video
Bro, great content, BUT WTF is this background "music" like we are in some kind of a cult? Please stop that 🙂
Hahahaha fair. I need to expand my royalty-free library for sure
Great tips my guy! I squat every 5 days but never do anything less than 75%. I do heavy static walkouts at 110-115% to help my body potentiate to lift heavy and it helps!
I go back and forth on heavy holds with my clients! I think they can be great for people that either lack confidence or even true exposure to heavy loads on a frequent basis. I like the way you use them though!
Yeah I don't wanna go threw the knee replacement surgery lol 😊
I'm sure you're probably joking, but for anyone curious, powerlifting is one of the safest sports you can participate in in terms of injuries per practice hour, and resistance training in general is actually injury-preventative!
@OfficialTeamOutlier yeah I used to do it it gets so expensive when it comes to gear and food
Any recommendations for the hybrid athlete? Is it possible to get that high while being lean, and not to the detriment to other lifts and running? I find i can only handle one day a week as it destroys my lower body. I end up having to do leg day at the end of the week because otherwise I'd be too sore to get through my other workouts and i definitely can't run.
It'll definitely be a more up hill battle, but not impossible. I used to work with collegiate athletes who had to juggle practice and running on top of lifting, many of whom could squat numbers like these! The key is structuring the week in such a way that your fatigue is well managed, and right now it sounds like your leg day is taking a back seat to running. I would try 2 squat sessions per week but reduce the amount of work you're doing in each one. You should not be too sore to do your other workouts, this is probably too much!
It’s really about body weight ratio eh? If you weigh 200lbs than 500 lbs is 2.5X BW, which is attainable….for reps. If you weigh 160 or 170 then it’s a much harder task. You just have to consider this.
Hi Desi, any alternative exercises to get the benefits of RDLs but without frying the lower back? (I usually do them after squats/sumo deads where my low back is already taxed)
For sure! My suggestion is to swap out the barbell for dumbbells. That alone may be enough, but if not, try kickstand (staggered-stance) RDL's instead. A lot less load is required to get a good stimulus!
I recently switched my second DL day to single leg deadlifts with dumbbells as Desi suggested due to a strain, and I felt pretty good about it. I was surprised at how well the much lighter dumbbells were working some of my imbalances in my hips/glutes.
Cool done, now what about 300kg (660lbs) 😭😭😭
Haha I'll have to make a follow up video
Average slavic grade school PE class:
3 is my biggest gripe. You’re working on the easiest part of the lift.
Thanks bro was definitely sleeping on this, gonna start incorporating these in my strength training
Let me know how it works for you!
ill try
Do ring dips help?
Yes! But maybe not as much as regular dips, depending on your goals. Ring dips are harder, but it's because they're more unstable, and less stability means you can use less load and produce less force, which is what we want for a powerlifting accessory.
Close grip bench, 2 or 3 board press, seated or standing barbell over head press, dips for pressing movements. Barbell rows, barbell shrugs, chins, front, side, rear delt raises.
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Did you know that the Soviet's invented Dynamic Effort for throwers, not weightlifters. My source was Soviet lifter and coach Naum Kelmsnsky.
👏 let ‘em know des, this is honestly a stellar take.
Yeah lifters. Get your advice from fatty here. He knows.
Westside Barbell Conjugate Strength Training Method is dynamic, not static. In other words, it was meant to be constantly evolving. Louie Simmons incorporated Zatsiorsky's Maximal Effort Method (lifting as much weight as you can); Repeated Effort Method (lifting nonmaximal weight to failure); Submaximal Effort Method (lifting nonmaximal weight for intermediate reps, when you lack the will-power, determination, and discipline to go to failure), and Dynamic Effort Method (lifting nonmaximal weight as fast as you can) along with other strength training methods, like the Bulgarian High-Intensity with Long Rest Intervals Strength Training Method. In Louie Simmons' book, WESTSIDE BARBELL BOOK OF METHODS, Louie Simmons said he was even thinking about incorporating the Chinese Olympic Weightlifting Strength Training Method and adapt it to American Powerlifting, like he adapted Zatsiorsky's 4 method of strength and conditioning, which was meant for Soviet Olympic athletes to American Powerlifting. Louie Simmons was like the "Bruce Lee" of Powerlifting, because like Bruce Lee, Louie Simmons didn't care where effective techniques came from. Instead, Louie did what Bruce Lee advised in his conjugate system of self defense, Jeet Kune Do: "Take what is useful; Discard what is useless; and Add what is individually your own"-- or, in other words, individualized it or tailor it according to your strengths and weaknesses.
so you are basicly bashing one of the greatest ever while been what ??? did you ever bench 500+ ??
So... I have to bench 500 raw and drug free even though Louie Simmons never did? Dang, that's a crazy take!
I trained at Westside. 1. Not one individual person went to Westside ''to go through the motions.'' Louie didn't allow lifters/athletes who weren't serious. 2. Louie is/was probably one of the most intelligent human beings in regards to the topic. We rotated M/E lifts because these lifts closely mimic S/B/D lifts WITHOUT breaking down the neuro patterns, or causing the ''diminished returns,'' from burnout. If Ed Coan calls you the greatest lifter of all-time, your probably on to something good. Ed said this about Louie. 3. The Method to date is one of the most scientific methods for building of athletic performance increases. Though the crew aspect definitely helped, everyone at WB, wanted to be the best. ''It begins and ends in the mind.'' 4. Louie was a lifter and an advisor, he wasn't real big into being a ''coach.'' He believed in the Method and those who used the Method. At 52, Lou had one of the best Squats in the world. That says alot about what was going on there. If you coaches aren't doing, youll eventually lose faith in your coach. I train lifters now at 45, and I train with them [ most of them are in their 20's]. Some of these guys are nationally, and collegiate ranked. The Method speaks for itself, if you know how to program it, and implement its focus. Its fantastic for raw lifters, as we trained raw. Just because you went to Columbus on the weekend, and talked with Louie [Louie opened the gym up to novice lifters on the weekend in the final few years of his life]. He wanted as many people as possible to experience the Method, and to help everyone get better], doesn't necessarily give you the chops to speak on it. I've watched a few of your videos, and I have trained/coached for over 30 years, and from what I have seen, I wouldn't listen to this guy. Just an opinion from a guy who has paid his dies, and continues to do so.
Thanks for your take! Here’s the thing: The authority you get to exercise in this comment by saying “I watched a few of your videos” and “I wouldn’t listen to this guy” is the EXACT same authority that “gives me the chops” to speak about Westside. No one has to spend 3 decades in any system to be able to critically analyze it, that’s not how the world works. When you put your options out there, you opt into receiving criticism (just like I have here!) Here’s the blunter truth: the “scientific methods” you’re referencing here are largely Soviet sport science from 60+ years ago that has not been peer reviewed or replicated. Again-Westside is (was?) amazing, and a super valuable step for the sport of powerlifting. But there’s a difference between saying this (which is what my video is very clearly doing) and believing that Westside had 100% of the right answers 30 years ago and that the improvements in powerlifting training and the entire evolution of exercise science since then has all been a mistake. That’s a losing argument. But, train and believe whatever you want. I respect your time and contributions to the sport!
@@OfficialTeamOutlier Uhm, never stated that I have spent 3 decades in one Method, alone. Didn't give ''options,'' I gave an opinion, and a well-versed one at that [over 30 yrs in this game, young man]. Science from 60 years ago.... tell me what has changed about the science of power lifting? Its still the man, who uses the right approaches, and applications, and busts his ass consistently, is the man on top the podium. No one Method, no one gym has produced more records, and 1sts on the podium, than Louie, and Westside, period. The versatility, applicability, and scientific basis of the Method is unquestionable, hence so many Methods being developed from Conjugate. Funny you mention the Russians [Bulgarian/Smolov] approach, which garnered them as the most powerful in the world, and Louie improved upon their Method, which is probably why some of those Russians came to Westside, to get better too. Most of the top lifter in the world, currently run a system either closely, or loosely related to the Conjugate Method. Other modern methods have taken directly from Louie's Conjugate in the building of their programming, and training. I believe data, plain and simple, and form opinions, learned from data and experience. Appreciate your permission in my ''believing whatever I want.'' However, I obtained that in my service to God and country. Young people in this country need to learn that they don't know, and should respect those that have done. Learn from those, and respecting what they have done. There's a kid in your comments, calling Simmons, ''bro science.'' Smh.... a lot to learn young people in American indeed need to do. Cheers mate.
Really great tips - thanks mate
I am a biggest hater of bulgarian split squats. I've done 140kg for 10 hitting depth and not using my arms for support like people on video and I got zero squat/deadlift carryover
I would call that a legitimate gripe 😂 You didn't notice any hypertrophy even? (indirect carryover)
@@OfficialTeamOutlier My ass got huge
@@OfficialTeamOutlier My ass got huge
@OfficialTeamOutlier It gave me huge sexy ass (no joke). My deadlift started progressing super fast with some specific velocity based training. When it comes to squat NOTHING. ZERO
1:56- Does the guy second from the left have two belly buttons?
Hes holding a glass bottle. I'n such a way which gives the illusion
@@velinivanov607 Oh, yeah. Good call.
You have taken that out of context. You can't do the same lift every week for max effort or 1 rep max because you will eventually regress and go backwards. You can however train the same lift continuously if using sub maximal weights.