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hey, thanks for watching. Both very different feeling foils with a similar design brief. The HA v2 has a very loose roll which likes to be banked over and has a very forgiving and wide range which isn't fast but has great pitch stability throughout, noticibly impressive in it's bottom end. The ART V2 has a firm roll and performs best when ridden flat where you find it is very efficient at maintaining a consistent lift and and speed, it is easy to create energy and happy traveling relatively fast. It's bottom end is good but is happier in it's mid-top end. Both pump really well within their speed range. - if you like to bank hard turns the HA V2 is weapon, is you like to charge fast lines the ART V2 would make you smile

@@poseidonwatersportsuk Thank you for your reply. The HA seems to be better suited for prone foiling from what I understand. Thank you.

The MA is very comfortable to ride, sure footed with even balance and a fair speed range. It is well suited for all riding styles and levels (on the right size). The Skate is very fast, lively and loose, it's a wave focused weapon for intermediate to advanced riders

The Swing is a dedicated wave wing, it flags out impeccably, but isn't quite as comfortable pushing upwind, especially maxed or underpowered. The Flow is very versatile, it has very good flagged out behaviour and equally comfortable sheeted in blasting in it's wide range. The flow allows a wider range of use from a smaller quiver, the swing gives a better performance in a specific field. Neither would disappoint on the wave.

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This is great to hear!

What size did you get for your weight? Thanks

@@bathaii I’m currently 93kg dry and I got the 80 liters. I could have gone for the 70…

for light wind it is perfect and takes off easy. For a beginner it is quite narrow - in it's bigger size, if the person is used to standing on boards of a similar dimension (coming from windsurf or sup) it could work nicely and not be grown out of quickly. But if standing on stationary boards is new I'd recommend choosing something wider as a first board so progression is quick

The range is a mess. The spitfire is a slow lemon and this one, the tips can't be breached.. hopeless!

The Pro for sure, it wins in all categories

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Hard to give a direct answer as it all depends on your size, conditions and riding style. Dropping 10L will feel much more lively and fun to ride. The (narrower) V3 60L will gather speed as quick and easy as the 70L V2, but dropping 10L if it is significantly under your body weight can make the difference between riding or swimming home in light conditions. if you drop you'll probably find you might loose a few knots of bottom end sessions, but gain more fun in the average to good sessions. After a little adaption time.

Chalk and cheese. The silk is like a stunt plane, the ART v2 a glider. Both excel in their field, the ART’s efficiency, speed range and glide make it next level for connecting fat bumps. The silk loves to bank into a hard rolled turn on steep sections and doesn’t flinch at turbulent water.

Neither of those 3 would disappoint! It would actually be quite hard to do a comparison as the pro's and con's on those 3 are almost the same. I think it would come down to rider preference on handle design and front/back hand pressure. Also whether you have a priority on discipline or looking for wider versatility. Welcome to give either of us a shout for a run down.

@@poseidonwatersportsuk What about build longevity? It's great to have a good wing but if it bags out after 15 uses then the performance drops like a brick?

Good question. Tough again as they are all top of the game and still perform equally well after a run of maxed out sessions. I think the best: Construction, seams and manufacture : easily ozone without question - it will stand the test of time. Anti stretch panels - XPS, its panel layout ages well. LE fabric abrasion durability - F-one uses a tougher style of Dacron that’s handles scrapes well.

Cabrinha were early and ahead of the pack to the "midlength" game and the swift nails the brief of a fast take off board that is lively to ride and versatile to different disciplines. But things do move quickly and the Army ML shape and construction is pretty special at gaining more ML performance. We havn't tried the Super K to give an honest comparison

Havn't GPS tracked it, but yes i would say the 999 is faster than the 900 an 1099, it carries it glide faster and further too.

We only got got hold of the 999 V2 to test, similar weight to you, it feels like a good staple size for average conditions (15-20 knot wind, flat-chest high faces). If you are comfortable riding <1300cm foils you would be happy on this foil. Keen to try the smaller sizes, I feel as i feel they could be really lively and fun, so long as you have the conditions and riding level for them. Depending on your local conditions and level - I'd imagine if you had the 999 you would also want something smaller for the firing days. The 939 might work as a 1 foil quiver.

Always running Axis on the Advance +. It really loosens their foils up and brings more life into them. Would recommend Advance + for almost all their foils and level of rider. It's amazing to see the development of the sport progress so quickly, brands stepping in late to the party have lots of data to get their products comparable quickly, it's nice to see brands like Axis who have been there since the beginning and helped make the sport it is today adapt and keep up as new lessons are learned and trends established.

Konrad median line is more 2-D than Axis median line 1-D so you can interpret that for stability in turbulence vs the straight median line explanation which every time I listen to it converts to a word salad. I suspect Axis foil sections are slightly better than my own but no idea how they compare to Konrad, depends on Konrad's research prior to their recent startup. Axis have had plenty of time to refine their foil sections but they are also up against companies like Armstrong and many companies now days run simulation software to find weaknesses in their foil designs. I don't think the current state of art software gives accurate answers fast though and it's not just running the software, old computer saying "GIGO" garbage in, garbage out. If you don't feed the simulation software with things like distance from water surface, Atmospheric pressure, compressability of water(not), % of disolved gasses etc etc then you won't even get a close result from the software. And then things like turbulence from the wing, require 3D modelling of the fluid flow which is typically only approximated from 2D stacked layers. Ride quality is so much more than simulation results.

Thanks. Not tried the Konrad foils to compare, they look interesting. Will add to the list when there's opportunity

Thanks, glad you enjoy. Always the advance +, it really loosens up the Axis Foils and recommend it to almost all levels. Spent time with the progressive tails, not put time pairing it with a skinny yet.

whoops! 😬 lucky it's built strong