Hi guys - nice review. Couple of questions: Do you notice the extra swing weight compared to a 65l that is shorter and wider? I am looking for a 60 ish litre board to get small high aspect foils going in less wind (eg 951 art pro) - I am 95kg and currently using the Armstrong FG60 - will this shape help me?
The narrower width definitely helps this board pick up speed quickly which lends it’s well to high aspect foils, so long as you have power in the wing to create motion and good technique to handle slow speed wobble. The long track allows you to put the mast quite far forwards to give a balanced feel and together with it’s narrow nose I wouldn’t say you notice extra swing weight, if anything it feels more lively than a shorter wider board, especially in high winds when the reduced width slices through the wind easier.
A few clips of water starts would have been helpful in evaluating the board via video. Maybe even one of 95k trying to static float. Multiple shots of good riders edges on pure promo. That said, love the info you gave. Thanks for spreading the stoke!
If you're going to review a board you should consider mentioning things like length, width, thickness, weight, tail rocker, nose rocker etc... And maybe a couple views from top or bottom to get a look at outline and a nice profile shot so we can see the rocker line and where the volume looks to be.
Hey Guys. Quick Question: - I'm running a two board quiver for wing. Downwind board + sinker. - Looking to replace my 60L Appletree slice V2 to go smaller (I'm 72 Kg) - Thinking 50L... 60L is really easy and lightwind ability is too close to my DW board Question is... Slice V3 vs Skipper?
Good question. Both great boards, ride characteristics on foil are similar, take off and touch downs quite different. The slice v3 has amazing acceleration and release, it takes off crazy fast and easy. It touches down when level really well, on a rail it can bite a little. The skipper is a little less eager to break free at slow speed and likes wing power, but then bounces off the water at any angle and speed so well you often don’t notice the touch down. I’d say - slice if you are into blasting speed runs and turns on flat water, skipper if you are into slashing waves. Did you see our foiling mag review vid on the appleslice v3 too? We talk about the comparison a little in that
@@poseidonwatersportsuk hmm yes very tough call. I'm certainly more of a wave guy, however it seems that the most recent designs from KT (and boards such as the omen flux) are closer to the slice v3 for wave riding... Don't think the skipper might be a little outdated (it's a little wider...)? Also would love it to double as a prone board(I'm a beginner in this area... I can surf normally but never prone foilled). Thanks, love the content. Eric from Canada
The sport is developing fast and kit changing with it. In the end neither the Skipper or the Slice would disappoint, they are both at the front of the pack. In my opinion I'd point to the slice if you ride more straight and fast as it is so easy to release onto foil and so has a big range of condition usage. For carving and waves I'd still choose the Skipper, it might not take off quite as easy, but handles touch down and foam hits so well
Which size would you recommend (5 or 5'2 ? ), I'm 86 kgs and have been outgrowing my huge 80L (CK Takuma, 25.5 wide) - never had a sinker and don't really want one as wind can die without notice ;)
The Apple skipper is designed for people embracing the sinker feel, so expect a higher challenge which ever size you choose. Tackling the effort you'll get rewarded with much better riding performance. At your weight, if you always want the option to limp home the 75L (5'2) would be wise as a replacement board. Dropping to the 65L (5'0) would be a really fun choice when conditions are firing, and it could complement your Takuma if you plan to run 2 boards. But you might struggle to taxi home off-foil on the 65L.
@@poseidonwatersportsuk thanks ! Would the Slice V2 70L an easier board for takeoff than the Skipper 75L ? Also is the deck of the skipper more suited to a strapless usage than the Slice V2 which seems all flat ?
@@billsuper7324 The Slice is a more traditional shape which is wider and squarer, so easier to balance when it’s not moving. The Skipper’s narrowness and rolled rails might make it tough to balance when stationary, but this helps it’s accelerate and take off quicker. Hard to compare which would be easier as they both have a different feel. If you are looking for a performance wave focused board and confident in your balance, ready to adapt technique a little I’d recommend this Skipper. For flat water / freestyle riding you’ll feel more at home on the slice v2.
Great review of what looks like an ideal board. Thanks fellas! Keep up the good work.
Thank you Guy, appreciate it!
Hi guys - nice review. Couple of questions: Do you notice the extra swing weight compared to a 65l that is shorter and wider? I am looking for a 60 ish litre board to get small high aspect foils going in less wind (eg 951 art pro) - I am 95kg and currently using the Armstrong FG60 - will this shape help me?
The narrower width definitely helps this board pick up speed quickly which lends it’s well to high aspect foils, so long as you have power in the wing to create motion and good technique to handle slow speed wobble.
The long track allows you to put the mast quite far forwards to give a balanced feel and together with it’s narrow nose I wouldn’t say you notice extra swing weight, if anything it feels more lively than a shorter wider board, especially in high winds when the reduced width slices through the wind easier.
A few clips of water starts would have been helpful in evaluating the board via video. Maybe even one of 95k trying to static float. Multiple shots of good riders edges on pure promo. That said, love the info you gave. Thanks for spreading the stoke!
If you're going to review a board you should consider mentioning things like length, width, thickness, weight, tail rocker, nose rocker etc...
And maybe a couple views from top or bottom to get a look at outline and a nice profile shot so we can see the rocker line and where the volume looks to be.
Noted, thanks Bob.
Hey Guys. Quick Question:
- I'm running a two board quiver for wing. Downwind board + sinker.
- Looking to replace my 60L Appletree slice V2 to go smaller (I'm 72 Kg)
- Thinking 50L... 60L is really easy and lightwind ability is too close to my DW board
Question is... Slice V3 vs Skipper?
Good question. Both great boards, ride characteristics on foil are similar, take off and touch downs quite different.
The slice v3 has amazing acceleration and release, it takes off crazy fast and easy.
It touches down when level really well, on a rail it can bite a little.
The skipper is a little less eager to break free at slow speed and likes wing power, but then bounces off the water at any angle and speed so well you often don’t notice the touch down.
I’d say - slice if you are into blasting speed runs and turns on flat water, skipper if you are into slashing waves.
Did you see our foiling mag review vid on the appleslice v3 too?
We talk about the comparison a little in that
@@poseidonwatersportsuk hmm yes very tough call. I'm certainly more of a wave guy, however it seems that the most recent designs from KT (and boards such as the omen flux) are closer to the slice v3 for wave riding... Don't think the skipper might be a little outdated (it's a little wider...)?
Also would love it to double as a prone board(I'm a beginner in this area... I can surf normally but never prone foilled).
Thanks, love the content.
Eric from Canada
The sport is developing fast and kit changing with it.
In the end neither the Skipper or the Slice would disappoint, they are both at the front of the pack. In my opinion I'd point to the slice if you ride more straight and fast as it is so easy to release onto foil and so has a big range of condition usage.
For carving and waves I'd still choose the Skipper, it might not take off quite as easy, but handles touch down and foam hits so well
Which size would you recommend (5 or 5'2 ? ), I'm 86 kgs and have been outgrowing my huge 80L (CK Takuma, 25.5 wide) - never had a sinker and don't really want one as wind can die without notice ;)
The Apple skipper is designed for people embracing the sinker feel, so expect a higher challenge which ever size you choose. Tackling the effort you'll get rewarded with much better riding performance.
At your weight, if you always want the option to limp home the 75L (5'2) would be wise as a replacement board.
Dropping to the 65L (5'0) would be a really fun choice when conditions are firing, and it could complement your Takuma if you plan to run 2 boards. But you might struggle to taxi home off-foil on the 65L.
@@poseidonwatersportsuk thanks ! Would the Slice V2 70L an easier board for takeoff than the Skipper 75L ? Also is the deck of the skipper more suited to a strapless usage than the Slice V2 which seems all flat ?
@@billsuper7324 The Slice is a more traditional shape which is wider and squarer, so easier to balance when it’s not moving.
The Skipper’s narrowness and rolled rails might make it tough to balance when stationary, but this helps it’s accelerate and take off quicker.
Hard to compare which would be easier as they both have a different feel.
If you are looking for a performance wave focused board and confident in your balance, ready to adapt technique a little I’d recommend this Skipper.
For flat water / freestyle riding you’ll feel more at home on the slice v2.