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@@AbdulAzizJalloh-v9z today

@@AbdulAzizJalloh-v9z and I'm doing a Cromwell Road one tomorrow

maybe

None of them were filmed on the last day (I wouldn't be able to go out and edit them in time). But I did go ride the 217 yesterday (around 5-8 PM) so you could've been in those

Thanks and yeah the Sullivan changes really made things interesting for north London. I still can't believe that the 389 and 399 were operated by Metroline for just one day!

Np, and yeah the 217 and other ex Sullivan routes were never officially awarded to new operators which is why Arriva had such a short time running the route.

The 217 is going to use ex 131 & 262 Gemini 2s (which was in the first bit of the video btw)

@@MostlyBuses1 ah i see

@@MostlyBuses1 is that go ahead or arriva

@@transport_dude GAL

Arriva never officially operated the 217, they just took on a portion of Sullivan’s contract and stepped in to run the 217 by providing a fleet of buses on the route as well as the drivers with TFL paying Arriva to do so

@@LJ07EBP Thanks so much mate! And yeah that driver was just rude for no reason. I've noticed a lot of 217 drivers kicking everyone off at the second to last stop at Turnpike Lane too

@@MostlyBuses1 No problem. Dangg.. that is just weird.

@@LJ07EBP ikr. They just can't be bothered to stop at the bus station and just go to the bus stands. I get that the second to last stop is very close to the bus station but it's still annoying

@@MostlyBuses1 yea, like you signed up for the job so do it properly why you doing it lazy like u didnt choose the job

@@transportenthusiasticboy Same but it looks like the days of them constantly going for 5 year contracts and replacing newish buses with new Ees are finally over, since they recently retained the 37, 434 and others on a 3 year contract with hybrids/old diesels

@@transportenthusiasticboy I'll miss the great variety of buses under Arriva but the actual service they provide is terrible (constant bunching and rude drivers with no buses having blinds which tbh is Sullivan Buses' fault

@ohhh I seeee

@ but sorrry about the rude driver

@@transportenthusiasticboy It was ok. I got more DWs on the 217 today

I think it's like Stagecoach and the W9. It's great that Arriva stepped up to run the 217 and provided a service, and the buses / variety was great to see (except for the ex TH Ts which can't really cope on that route). However they just ran the route incredibly poorly. There were large gaps and frequent bunchings today and that's fair since Arriva didn't have time to prepare. And just like the W9, I'm looking forward to the new operator finally making things better (and using diesels too!)

I'm guessing the ex TH E400s will get withdrawn but the LJ61s could stay as rail replacement buses like they were before. The Gemini 2s and Gemini 3s weren't allocated to the 217 anyway iirc

Gemini 2s from the 131 and other routes

@shubhamuprit it's in the video

@@TrainsAndBusesAroundNELondon Exactly! That wasn't filmed on the last day so I guess he might not have seen an enthusiast before. But still though, there was another person at Empire Parade who told me she waited 30 minutes for the 217 that drove past (and would have to wait another 15 in the end).

@@thelondoner614 it's fine. I've now been on a few more DWs on the 217

@@thelondoner614 I will be reporting him which will make me feel better (and don't worry. I'm not one of those people who complains all the time. This will be my first one)

@@djtfire ok

@@cooldude12-q9b what it already uses (basically anything spare at AL).

the 200 has gotten a lot more of its Mes back rather than the initial 4 Mes (Me14-17 that came back). The 57 is temporarily fully Ee for god knows how long so 8 of its allocated Gemini 3s will be supplementing the 131 as they already do so as well as also supplementing the 163, 200 and 280. The 200 getting more of its Mes back means that the 11 reg WVLs are able to go on the 131 too

@@zfs.59 Me13 entered service today too.

@@GMDpowerman11 yeah I'm sad too but it's amazing that B9TLs are staying for longer at NP!

@MostlyBuses1 G2 still feels too new to be withdrawn idk

@@GMDpowerman11 some of the older ones look old inside but they age so well (especially with the amazing black paint/styling that was sadly removed on most refurbishments). The Gemini 2 design is probably one of the most well ageing designs made (in my opinion)

@@MostlyBuses1 hopefully they don't leave london anytime soon. These buses are so great, imo they look so much better than the new electric buses we see, they all look super weird for some reason

@@GMDpowerman11 I don't think they'll leave London soon tbh. They were just bought by iSquared but they've been investing in electrics

Oh yh sorry

I think it'll be mainly the ex 131's buses since they can do the 1 year contract

@@MostlyBuses1yeah and the 57’s WHVs will supplement the 131’s allocation and since more Mes have returned to the 200, the 200’s LX11 WVLs are also able to supplement the 131’s

@@Jeff0069 oh and I forgot to mention. WVN5 was the bus I used on the 651 and I accidentally went back to DS on that!

@@MostlyBuses1 seems like for DS WVL293/294 and WVN12-16 are going

@@zfs.59 Me13 returned to service today so it looks like all of them are slowly returning (except for Me12, obviously). They still can't last a full day though but I'm still hoping that GAL will retain the 200 with the Mes instead of replacing them in 2026. I'm still trying to avoid Mes whenever I ride the 200 since the WVLs & WVNs are great

I went on that DW about a week ago very funny it has 66 blinds still in it. & yh that driver was very rude for skipping you & other passengers.

@@AB-ii5pi I went on some DWs on the 217 today and I think 2 or 3 still have 66 on the back blind

@@MostlyBuses1

Those are quite common now. I remember being shocked when I saw the first Electroliner 267 on lvf since TUK are really strict (they put an MMC on it a few days ago though)

Yeah electrics have pretty much become a daily appearance on the 68 whether it’s E400EVs or Electroliners. The first 68 that had an electric was in spring 2023 when the U5’s 22 reg E400EV were temporarily allocated to the route to release LTs to the H32. Once the 111 converted to Electroliners, the LTs went to the H32 and (some are now on the 211 too) whilst the 68 got its LTs back from the H32 and the E400EVs sent back to the U5 which was using the 111’s 72 reg Electroliners. Electroliners have become very common on the 267 and happen almost daily nowadays too. The H91 often sees a lot of Gemini 3s on the route and sometimes a Gemini 2 itself

@@zfs.59 oh wow. do NRMs still occasionally run on the 111 and 133? plus what's the status of LT998 which crashed few months back

@@zfs.59 oh yeah I do see LT154 (ex TF) on 159 quite a number of times. its front bumper is slightly painted wrongly. For WL I'm not really familiar with the fleet there

⁠​⁠@@Jeff0069yeah NRMs do appear sometimes on the 111 but very rarely and mostly in the nights to sub in for an Electroliner needing to be recharged for the next morning run out. The 133 still does see NRMs on a weekly basis sometimes daily but it doesn’t happen so often as there’s enough conventionals and Electroliners for the route as the 133 still doesn’t have enough Electroliners due to a few of them being on the U5 currently whilst DH are modifying their chargers to better suit for the E400EVs. Garages like RM and PD are also modifying their chargers to better suit the E400EVs too. It is a shame that no conventionals have done the 159 for nearly 2 years as all the MMCs are blinded for the route. QB should be putting out conventionals on both the 159 and 415 at least and keep the 24/27/211 fully LT at the very least as the 415 currently only sees conventionals

Yes

If you want a similar experience then ride the 150 before it gets its Hybrids

@@ahuman9143 i live near turnpike lane lol

​@@MrBaldiRobloxI'll miss all the 217 buses, especially the DWs and HVs

@@MostlyBuses1 SAME

@@MostlyBuses1 Me too. Still I’ll be glad when 217 goes to GAL. T217, T218, T225 and sometimes T226 would be the last ex-W3’s at Wood Green when 217 does because this is the end of the road for 217 having Arriva London, two of my favourite ex-W3’s are T217 and T218, but good thing 217 lasted long with Arriva compared to the other routes. And I do remember having an LJ60 in North London, including Go Ahead London Gemini 2’s which the 217 could get tomorrow.

Why Is Has Full Of Hybrid Gemini 3

​@kellyogieriakhi6805 because those are the new allocation

And T226

Cool

Happy birthday! 🎉

Yeah it was great to see the variety of buses on the 217. I'm glad NP are getting it with ex First buses too

Ye can agree also

Your vids are the best!

@@MostlyBuses1 yeah I agree it’ll be interesting to see WVN’s/WVL’s on the 217. I think it’ll take the 230’s Ee’s though if NP retain it further after its 1 year contract.

@@DanielIstet thanks!

@@fortnitegamer8306 same

I doubt they're planning to withdraw the 150 to be honest. It's a useful route and they'd probably have to increase the 247's frequency to compensate. Also I'm not sure if Volvo had any involvement in these buses since they use batteries

@@MostlyBuses1 Ah, my bad, I meant Wright. I'm just so used to seeing Wrights with Volvo engines.

@@ifrahabdiwali387 I'm happy there are occasional diesels and hybrids

@@ifrahabdiwali387Thanks. loads of routes have them now. I've done a video on the E7 too

@@ifrahabdiwali387 yes

@@eastlancsesteem exactly

Thanks! I was not expecting it to get so many views, especially since I wasn't even planning to make this a video until I randomly saw the Yutong!

Yeah let's just hope the change doesn't go ahead since the extra journey on the 52 will barely help

Yeah the 52's PVR will only increase by 1 which is a shame. They need to add more journeys to compensate

The 65 plate Ts at Dartford could be used until 2030 although I think it's unlikely tbh. I'm hoping they'll at least go for a 3 year with them

Yeah it's just crazy how all these consultations have come out recently. Hopefully this one is the last of the bad ones

@@MostlyBuses1 TFL are probably doing it to get more money out of people the greedy bums

Probably yeah. I wouldn't call them greedy though

⁠​⁠​⁠@@MostlyBuses1tbh they should be looking at routes that desperately need changes made rather than the ones that are already doing alright in their current form ie the 30/205/343/452. I think TFL should look at the 156 and 170 as both routes are unreliable in their current state and length. The 156 should become a Wimbledon to Clapham Junction route to maintain reliability and the 170 should be decked going from Roehampton to Clapham Junction then going via the current 156 to Vauxhall. A new route called the 435 should be created and should run between Victoria and Clapham Junction via the current 170 and then onwards to Wandsworth Common and Tooting Bec. Then the new 435 can turn left and then have the route terminate at Balham using the soon spare 315’s stand as the 315 will vacate and go to Springfield Hospital soon

@@zfs.59 That would be a great idea. I would support anything to get the 170 decked tbh (except cutting it obviously). I have to use the 156 a lot and I absolutely agree that it's just so unreliable. Same for the 170 although I think GAL do a fairly good job on that. They could also use the 239 number for the new route since the 170 was the 239 a few years ago.