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Interesting! We went to their old site in Kentucky, pretty cool!

Talk about 🚀 Space Orientation... How many Shakers fit in a Phone Booth? A) One at a Time. B) Husband Alone. 3) Wife & Best Friend. 4) Whole Fratutnity. 5) What is a Phone Booth? 6🫧🚀 7. All of the Above. 8. None of the above! 😮😮

New Skin for the Old Ceremony, very nice, ritual murder, this guy insanely overrated

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That is really interesting. I agree that nowadays it is countercultural to join in any religious life. There is so much pressure to not join religious life. Had I been given another chance, I would have become a Catholic sister. It's too late for me now because I am married.

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They were all into modern technology to the point they tried a new technology of how to produce offsprings to continue their faith without males/females having intercourse. HUmm wonder how that worked out for them. They must have overlooked the scripture in Hebrews 13 where is states "marriage is honorable in all things and the bed is undefiled." It is ancient and it is not a new thing but it still works.

Interesting talk

My ex step grandmother grew up with the Shakers. Her name was Kelly I believe she changed her name. She has two adopted children and my ex step father went by Mike even though his name was Vernon. We weren’t allowed to watch Nickelodeon as kids when we visited her. She’s was a pain in the ass along with her son Vernon. Vernon was an abusive piece of 💩 and never worked, made my teenage years hell until I was sent to placement and my mother divorced him. Always hitting me, touching me where he shouldn’t have been. I’m so glad I got away from him and my mom saw his true colors. I guess he dates another woman now with a child. I pray he doesn’t beat and molest the child like he did to me.

Shakers in a nut shell “cult” . Period .

God Bless these Priests on their calling. I've occasionally spoken to my one and only son about priesthood and theology. He's open to the idea somewhat.

These people might be historians but they know nothing about being a Shaker.

Known for blasphemy

I am glad that I had shakers in my Elementary class.... I like to Mr and Mrs Howard are science teacher married in Indian 1987 I was honored to be a student in his class and as well as honored to have received a 97 A-... On my human skeleton and the studies for health I'm still pressing charges even on all your corporations so it doesn't bother me cuz you're getting charged for killing child protection for burning the retired cops kids and campers you're getting charged for family counseling is missing kids you're getting charged for SSI wife kidnapping and torture all of these charges are all being added to the proper people you're not going to have anything on this Earth and I seen the fires too I was present when National guard I was present when National guard was deployed in 1999 in the documents it should have said that I had maternity leave I walked inside of the block with the mom and the baby cuz her father was National guard and this is in the Daniel Boone before the front page of the Harlan daily Enterprise where the dog on a church step you can go to hell as well as everybody else f*** you f*** all your evil and I'll show you a f****** curse

It’s the past tense that bothers me the most. The Shakers are still alive - they didn’t believe, they do believe. I don’t believe Brother Arnold - a boy from Massachusetts wants to be remembered as a chair.

interesting. strange cult with some heretical beliefs.

The Mass is imperfect but not blasphemy partly because Leonard Bernstein wasn't a Roman Catholic. Only Believers know where to hit where it hurts., which was never Bernstein's intention anyway. The Mass is intensely idealistic. I speculate it has inspired more than a few conversions to Catholicism, which is about as far from blasphemy

When Cohen was asked by a fan "What does Christ mean to you?", he wrote back: "Dear Walter, Last year I tried to put it this way: Was looking at the crucifix. Got something in my eye. A Light that doesn't need to live and doesn't need to die. What's written in the Book of Love is strangely incomplete, 'til witnessed here in time and blood a thousand kisses deep." He seems to be saying that what's written in the old testament is incomplete until it is witnessed in the crucifixion (blood) of Christ and his love. He says that he's talking about Christ, and Christ's blood on the cross while he lovingly helped humanity is one of the most central parts of Christianity. I don't think his use of the word "blood" can mean anything else. And he poetically refers to the deep sacrificial love of Christ as "blood a thousand kisses deep." Also, Jesus said that he didn't come to replace the law, but to "fulfill" the law ... and Cohen seems to be saying a similar thing: that Jesus makes the incomplete old testament become complete through his deep sacrificial love. Plus Cohen conveys the important concept that it's important for us to witness this. For example, at almost every single Mass, the last supper with Christ talking about his blood is re-enacted for several minutes so everyone attending is witnessing it. Sometimes non-Christians don't understand that, and likewise don't understand why Christians put much emphasis on re-tracing, describing and illustrating the specific things of the time of Jesus's passion and crucifixion. Or why Christians primarily use such a somber symbol as a crucifixion cross. But Cohen not only gets it: he says that it's a major part of what Christ means to him too - to witness Christ's immense sacrificial love on the cross. I'm not saying that Cohen became fully Christian. He was unable to commit to hardly anything except for writing songs, so for him to commit long-term to a different religion than what he was raised in was probably not at all doable for him. He said the only reason he was at the zen monastery was because of his affection for the roshi teacher there, and the schedule gave him some structure that he craved, while still allowing him to indulge his vices - for example: the roshi and monks would get drunk on hard alcohol. But he didn't connect much with the philosophy or teachings - and gravitated mostly towards Judaism and Christ. Despite his having love for individual women, he couldn't commit to any of them. Likewise, he said he had mystical experiences of Christ, and also that Christ was "unparalelled" in all of history in his teachings and wisdom. But despite those two rather incredible things, he didn't really pursue it or reap the benefits of pursuing it. My guess is that he would have been much happier if he had pursued it. And that he also would have been happier if he had either committed to one woman or at least stopped having casual sex with random people. The latter is a recipe for unhappiness. He's definitely one of the great songwriters of all time, and managed to poetically capture the essence of Christianity better than most poets and songwriters. And also capture other aspects of the human condition. Some of his political songs are excellent. His song about the French resistance is brilliant. And he also was able to make beautiful music to accompany the lyrics. I'm certainly a fan of his and thankful for him. Here's a link to a copy of the transcript from a Google Groups page from 2004 from around the time of Cohen’s online chat with fans: groups.google.com/g/alt.meditation.transcendental/c/OASW9qE5MIs Here is a paywalled article in Danish advertising the online chat event prior to its occurrence: politiken.dk/kultur/art4945100/Chat-med-Leonard-Cohen Here is a paywalled article in Norwegian with a transcript of the chat: www.vg.no/rampelys/musikk/i/xRPl5X/live-chat-med-cohen-18-oktober

One major Reason for Catholicism decreasing is the SEX SCANDAL , at least that what I hear from people.

6:46 congrats on their women's rights. Now look at them. 6 feet in the ground with nothing to remember their ideology by with the exception of some fancy brooms and their skeletal remains.

The shakers were compagnons. Companions of duty

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Whatever you think about the political theory I'm not sure why no one mentions communism/ socialism when speaking on the Shakers. Frederick Engels, the co writer of The Communist Manifesto also considered one of the "fathers of communism" had specifically used the success of the Shakers as an argument for said theory in several of his writings. I've had to do my own research to find this and cant find it on any official historical Shaker Website or documentary on the Shakers. Its a very important part of the story that for some odd reason, doesn't like to be talked about.

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Came here after reading about the shakers in a design book, great material!

Sounds like by this explanation, we are free to choose our addictions. "You got to serve somebody," Bob Dylan sang.

"Father" James Martin is a heretic, he should've been excommunicated for his theologic non-sense, any good catholic should not listen to him, as he is poison for the soul and acts like the wolf in sheep skin.

love these videos.

I personally know the Boston College Jesuit who put this on. He told me he doesn’t accept the Nicene creed, but rushed to assure me he still accepts the Apostle’s creed. I hope you can forgive me for not feeling at ease.

I was impressed with range of participants. Particularly appreciated observation by Prof. Jaisey Joseph of Villanova that the “Spirit has been pushing the church to the peripheries since the beginning.” (At minute 4:20) I found it odd that only the names of the women & their universities, but not their roles & titles were included.

How about a "Way Back" from the brink. Back to a time when abortion and contraception didn't sever the branch from the vine. Back to a time when marriage was a fruitful sacrament between, one man, one woman, and God. Back to a time when we had a Catholic medical system and a Catholic educational system to deliver both the spiritual and corporal works of mercy. I recently attended a mass at a local Shrine performed by our bishop. The mass was packed, and the average age was 75+. This parish is the combined remains of three other parishes that have been consolidated. This consolidation has been occurring since the 1960s. I thought how sad, that in 20 years all of this will be gone. The congregation was actually singing the hymns louder than the choir because singing is worship that can be led by the choir, but not outsourced to the choir. It was like smelling the beauty of a cut rose. I as a younger person was able to enjoy the beauty and fellowship of this Mass, full well knowing in 20 years most of these parishioners will be in heaven. The Shrine and grounds will be sold off because there will be no more parishioners, and we'll have another condo development or strip mall in what was a sacred place. Why is yet another congregation to be cut from the vine? Because of the promotion of contraception and abortion. The evil pharmaceutical industry continues to promote eugenics, as they did in Africa and Asia with the pushing of the Tetanus vaccine to sterilize. How quick the Church has been to crush the Latin mass, while the Vatican became the first country to mandate vaccinations of it's citizens. These vaccinations inflicted miscarriages on so many. Like standing by the fire, and hearing Peter deny Christ, I like Peter have nowhere else to turn than Christ. The Way Back is perhaps the path that Candace Ownes is currently following. The same path that Abby Johnson followed. A faith that promotes Hope as an essential leg in the three-legged stool, for sharing Hope is an essential act of worship. We have a world that needs RCIA, for the Church can not be conformed to meet the world where it is. We must invite the world two by two into the ark of the Church as Noah did. To the beauty and protection of the Church during the flood. The Church radiates Truth, through Faith, Hope, and Charity. Like Gideon, we may be asked to turn more and more away. The Gardener will continue to prune branch after branch and fertilize the roots until we have the army that Lord wants us to have. Else we are the fig tree, that produced no figs out of season. In every season the Church is called to produce great fruit. Like Peter himself, let us find the path back to Christ.

B3cause every single person is important, poor or rich, bishop or philosopher, man or woman, young or old, please wear masks and clean the physical air too. Be examples of ecumenicql study and mitigation of risks.

What a great video of a great event! I am so impressed with both the gathering and the video. I pray that the Holy Spirit inspire the attendees to spread the message and the spirit of the gathering to those around them. I hope more bishops would attend events like this and hope the gathering happens again next year and the next. It was good to see the several women who participated in the event. Videos like this are great and important; they give viewers like me who did not attend the event get an idea and feel for what happened at the event. Thank you, americamedia. The videographer did a great job.

Going back to Tradition paired with a return to the Latin Mass is the only way forward. God bless the SSPX!

"...is ...more important than catechesis" says it all.

Say it like it is, they were America’s first socialist experiment.

My grandmother used to take me to Watervliet to visit her family. My fourth great grandfather was recovering from the Revolutionary War and went there for some quiet time. Our families never lived far away from each other until this generation.

Catholic Supreme Court justices attend pedophile child abusing thoughts and prayer session at Archdiocese of Baltimore to celebrate their inspired by God sick delusions.

Unfortunately it’s difficult to keep a religion going without reproducing despite all the amazing creative ventures they pioneered.

I have less of a problem with Christianity and Nationalism than I have with WHITE Christian nationalism. I have a problem with Christians who portray Jesus as being White OR Black.Secular ism is code, dog whistle for Athesim.Socialism is a code word, dog whistle for Communism. You can read the Bible and claim Jesus was a capitalist or a socialist. Prosperity Gospel or Poverty Gospel? Then there is Judeo-Christian nationalism.

The future of Christian nationalism issecure. The vast majority of politicians identify themselves as Christians. Even if they are not. Trump is a Christian and Biden is a Christian. White Evangelical tend to vote for Republicans and Black Evangelicals for Democrats?

FYI Camus and Augustine were both born in Algeria, although a few years apart.

😲 Is that even a thing???... I live in England and it does not even come into the stratusphere. Black catholics, white Catholic, who cares. Americans are so weird.

Robert Jones spot on.

Well done for keeping this history alive!

Wretched sound.

Sound quality is very poor. It probably doesn't help that there is a hard, soùnd reflecting surface right behind the speaker.