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For me it's Web planet The space museum Ark in space Android invasion Invasion of time

The Doctor Who "universe" has already visited Lady Jane Grey. The Sarah Jane Adventure episode Lost in Time had Sarah, Clyde and Rani cast into various times to fetch a mcguffin for the Captain. Rani was sent to be Lady Jane's personal maid.

Can't agree more about Ireland. As an Irish fan, I cant really believe it hasn't happened in the show proper at some stage. The Book of Kells McGann audio is the closest it got. At least Sydney appeared onscreen in The Pilot via cgi, yet no Ireland, surprising. Lady Jane Grey was done quite well in the sja's, still good idea though for the main show

Nice round up, chaps. Ive mixed feelings about Season 12. Back in the day I had been hit badly by Katy leaving then Jon, and their departures left a huge gloomy shadow over what came next. On top of that, it wasn’t much fun in our household with my mother walking out on me and my father and disappearing. It was nigh on impossible to not let events like that colour my overall feelings towards the new season. These days - I’ve warmed to it more, although it will always be my least favourite Tom season. I started a Tom marathon a while ago - an episode a day starting from Robot and currently up to Meglos episode 2 - and even this time round I was glad to get onto season 13. However, objectively I do appreciate that Ark and Genesis are very well made Who. I was hoping that Revenge might grab me back in 75 but the Cybermen were not the same as the ones that terrified me in Wheel and The Invasion, so that one was a bit of a damp squib too. Hopefully one day you two will have a chat about Season 19. C’mon Rob. Work your Davo magic 😂

Am I actually first?.. or did I use my tardis to come back and post before the others that follow… THAT is the question.

possibly he was doing something else like merlin patrick troughton and there is a youtube vid where somebody has darken his hair and shirt also it adds to season 6b

One of the reasons who did so well up to Jodi was, for the most part, stories that held together internally. Where the Dr worked things out & then had to make some effort to put put their ideas into action. Where the plot, the story came first and any 'morals' came second. Not sht that we're getting now. Less money involved would just make things even worse.

I feel like subbing but I'd ruin the 777.

I think the irony is that even with the extra money these episodes still felt very locked into one to three locations for the most part - the one exception I can think of is 73 yards and that was easily the best episode for me. My point I guess is are they really doing much more that ghost or monster of the weeks stories anyway? Feel a little let down my this series but there’s some good in it too.

Same problem we had when Dr. Who became a woman. Some people think all heroes should be White and Male. My only complaint about recent series was too short to let characters properly evolve and too long till next episode.

One of my favourite series in recent years is the dark comedy anthology Inside No 9. Every episode takes place in a different location, with the only link being the number 9. They deliberately have small casts, and some episodes take place in a single room, but they've had supernatural stories and a time travel episode alongside more mainstream stories. Despite its low budget and being shown on BBC 2 on a Wednesday night, it has won awards and got around 2 million viewers, which is about the same as the overnight figures for this series. I also enjoy the Ghost Story for Christmas episodes, which are also pretty low budget. So why not take a leaf out of their book and decide to concentrate on stories that are atmospheric and suspenseful?

Thanks very much for such a measured response, Rob. I'd seen an increasing number of YT posts about this and your contribution is much needed reasonableness in a maelstrom of hyperbole.

The late, great Jon Pertwee once said that part of the appeal of Doctor Who, at least in the classic era, was precisely the slightly 'amateurish' elements that were forced on the show by the limited budgets, like a moment when you could briefly glimpse through the gauze beneath a Dalek's domed head and see the profile of the actor's head inside, or even the black plimsole shoes of the Dalek operator showing for an instant as it 'glided' across a floor. All the CGI 'bells and whistles' that big budget productions deliver don't really make up for unimaginative stories, and Doctor Who has been blessed with highly imaginative writers (excepting a few real turkeys) right from the start in 1963. Long may that continue. Good, sensible, video - well said.

Is it on the UK version of The Space Museum/The Chase DVDs? I have the US version and it doesn't have it,

Doctor Who in 2005 was a sensation in the UK!

I think less money and a higher episode count is what the show needs

Just goes to show that people are never really happy. Plus it’s the internet-the fact people take things face value 65% of the time and don’t get check things for themselves 🤦🏼

The only review video online for this classic. Definitely feels like Talons mixed with the Temple of Doom opening and Bond.

I am indeed listening from Dublin, such a surreal experience to have my idea discussed. Highlight of my weekend. I thoroughly enjoyed the video. As youse both said, plenty of snaps. I took Robs view of the best 5 stories that happen to be season openers. Saw none live due to age, so never had that impact as openers for me sadly. My top 5 classic openers are: 1. Horror of Fang Rock 2. Remembrance of the daleks 3. Terror of the Autons 4. The Time Warrior 5. Tomb of the cybermen As you said, would maybe have put Zygons in there but really feels like the climax of series 12. Lett's definitely opened well and with a bang. Honourable mentions for me would be of course, Spearhead (prefer Autons the following year), planet of giants, Attack of the cybermen, An unearthly child. It just occurred to me that there's only 1 missing opener in the Smugglers which is a shame as I enjoy the recon. Discovered this channel through the excellent review of the great novel 'Shadow of weng chiang', one of my favourites. Many thanks for a great listen!

Beautifully summed up guys 👍. As a viewer since 1963(at the age of 6) this show is very much part of my life. I have really struggled with this series. You have verbalised my feelings better than I could. I guess I will expect a bill from you shortly as this was definitely a therapy session. I feel better now 👌

Season 25 collection now available for pre-order at rarewaves.

Reminiscent of the Doctor's companions support group, I think, as a DW fan, that many fans including myself need much therapy and could do with a trauma therapy group after the total head-fuck that RTD does with the fandom. I'm still holding out for an 8-part mini-series with the 8th Doctor.

Thanks for reading out my comment on Space Babies! I totally forgot I wrote that!

I kind of did wonder if Dot and Bubble should have made the racism more obvious, at least at the end, but i think the way they did it is the point. The fact is racism sometimes isn't always noticeable. There's things that i might brush off without realising it's racist. But there's also another reason for me. I love when political messages aren't thrown at you. A lot of the messages in Chibbnals era felt like that, like they where tacked on, with Orphan 55 even having the doctor basically turn to camera and lecture the audience at the end. It reminds me of one of my favourite zombie films, the original 1978 Dawn of the dead. The first time I watched it I was young and the whole consumerism social commentary angle was lost on me, but I still loved it as a zombie film. I feel dot and bubble is the same, if you don't see the message it's not that your racist but it doesn't also make the episode not work. The ending I just thought it was because they didn't want saved by someone older/poorer etc. but it hits even harder now knowing the real reason

The existential surprise I felt when my name got read out! 👍 The season is one where I can't imagine anyone hating an episode in isolation, but like you said it's the most "discardable" it's been in a while. As a package it was all over the place. Individually, almost any episode is sort of a "this is doctor who" "okay then..." sort of response. When Boom and Rogue are my favourites and I still have major problems with half of them, and you have 8 eps 2 of which are extremely silly first impressions, 2 of which hardly feature the doctor, 2 of which are the finale, and 2 of which I find personally enjoyable but are splintered apart ever 3 episodes... its a bit of a mess. 73 Yards and Dot And Bubble are interesting, but what am I meant to make of them after the whiplash between 2 hokey, 1 war story, then 2 experimental What Ifs. I've tried reordering them and I think the problem is a lack of cohesive whole, you always get back down to the Finale where the characters have no depth and the mystery has no depth and the worldbuilding wants to ride on 'a wizard did it'. That empty finale makes an otherwise average hollow season feel far worse.

horrible season. I checked out after the horny flirt Doctor story. i’ll pop in for a bit of next season but it’s too far removed from what Doctor Who has established over the last 60 years.

Loved this list! Its hard to find good videos on niche dr who topics in such great detail like this.

Alien might not be as difficult as you think! Alien being a Fox product, and Fox part of Disney.. at least it's more a chance than it would have been a year ago! Though highly doubtful haha.

Hey guys, did you see that the Collection boxset 15 just released by Madman. Got my copy today, but they totally fucked with the consistency of the sets again. They had one job.

The spoon scene is theorized to just be that Suteck is just that heartless

I was thinking that Rose was using her pad to activate some kind of weapons or some other technical thing... Not that she was literally just playing on the tablet.

Always enjoy listening to your takes as fellow Aussie - you were both very fair. I was little more annoyed with the use of Sutekh. Thanks for taking the time to share.

After last weeks episode, and the amazing reveal (which I did not see coming) I can't help but feel disappointed. This feels like a similar situation with the Series 3 finale where all the stops were pulled only for a big reset to happen with next to no consequences. Also the reveal of Ruby's mother was anticlimactic. I don't see any other way of looking at it. For the whole series (and a Christmas special) to be building up to this is just disappointing. I am looking forward to whatever Mrs Flood is revealed to be in the future (hoping for another Missy or a Rani reveal).

The season is quite bad, if I have to rate it I’d give it a 4/10. The finale was very bad imo. BTW why was the time window working for so long, it was meant to be broken after last episode. All we got in the last scene was “it’s starting to remember” that doesn’t work if the mother is a random teen. It made no sense!!!

I think Rose was using the IPad to control the ceiling lasers and she was “shooting” at Sutekh as much as anyone

I think you guys have been very kind Okay as a piece of fluff this was fun....but COME ON ! The whole Season was building up to THIS? A SPOON saves the Universe? Intelligent Rope WTF! You can now summon the TARDIS with a whistle like a dog! They killed off major characters with Magic Dust that you KNEW were coming back. So there was ZERO suspense, clearly RTD was going to hit the RESET button AGAIN. The revelation of Ruby's Mum was so anticlimactic. Just a random Mum dropping off a newborn at a church RTD just wrote a big budget Soap Opera. To top it all off Mrs Flood is Mary Poppins. To quote my Mum when I was a naughty child " I'm not angry, just very disappointed".

Hello lads from a late evening in a very very very hot USA... Enjoyed listening to your show. Wish I had enjoyed the episode but I disliked most of the writing. The VFX, and performances were proper highlights, however I was very distracted by how flimsy the plot worked together. I was definitely left with many questions that I don't expect to get answers to, and am feeling less enthusiastic about the next season. I'll spare you a list of specifics and just write that I am left in the ballpark of being as disappointed with the show as I was during the Chibnall era.

Just here to say I got the alex rider reference, I liked the books as a kid and had the whole first series, i haven't actually seen the show but i recently re-listened to the audiobook for the first book, this Who episode IS similar to Herrod Sale launching the stormbreaker computers (although the doctor didn't parachute through the ceiling and start shooting at Susan Triad, thats what alex rider did in the book i don't know if the show changed it)

100 percent agree at the exposition part. The episode for me didn't have a lot of breathing space, felt a bit rushed. Did enjoy the ending though. Although I thought Sutekh was just a very powerful alien rather than a god😊

This question doesn't have anything to do with the most recent episode, but with Doctor Who physical media in Australia, which you been the main source of info for me. Do you guys have anyone at Madman who's mentioned anything about an Underwater Menace release in Australia?

Script brief: "The Doctor spots a hot piece of ass up on the balcony and is determined to pull. After getting to know each other for 5 minutes, some air-humping to Kylie they both want to get it on". This is not the show I fell in love with. It's an abomination of all things Who.

Over £600 GBP now lost. They must of known they were in deep trouble for ages. But nothing but COVID excuses. Scamers.

Yes I agree with you that the romance is way too fast a transition from 'arbitrary would be murderer' to 'would be lover'.

I know RTD was thinking he was being very clever with Dot & Bubble. But I only picked up on racism after the RTD interview. Think it was a little too subtle for us older Whitey McWhiteface. Agree 100% about Bridgeton and cosplay references. Just a little to meh. I wonder what the crossover audience is for Doctor Who and Bridgeton, assuming it’s mostly the Ladies. I feel this was the first time we saw the 15th Doctor. Also Tegan called the first doctor “Doc” and he got tetchy at her in The Five Doctors. Also second doctor was I think at the end of the holographic carousel.

I am a gay man, and i am sorry, the elephant in the room is the Doctor falling in love with a man. The Doctor is NOT a gay character. This was crowbarred in for political purposes only. There is no artistic merit in this whatsoever. Just because a non-canon novel wrote he kissed a man, i just want to point out that Captain Jack in canon kissed him, but it was unser duress and not reciprocal. The gold standard is, if you can't see Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee, Baker, et al, just deciding to turn gay all of a sudden (which is frankly insulting to gays, because it isn't something you just put on like a new coat), then it is against character.

It was a Doctor Who story loaded with horny inuendo I don't think it needed it. I enjoyed it, I prefer the 60 minute or 25-minute episode format though. I don't like the Doctor's lack of humility and awkward need to move on - its not landing for me as the Doctor. The Doctor went and saved Captain Jack after his noble sacrifice, just moves on now. The Doctor is still allowing others to make the tough decisions and giving him cop-outs

Flirty Doctor just doesn't work for me. I prefer it when they are awkward and asexual. The Doctor is best ( for me) when they are ambiguous and open to being anything to anybody. Gay or straight shouldn't come into it. If you wanted to you could interpret Doctors 2 -7 as Gay or Straight it didn't matter they were whoever you wanted them to be for you. Children ( and adults) could identify with them as they saw fit. ps I didn't include The First Doctor as he was clearly written as "Grandfather" figure and Doctors Number 8 onwards are less ambiguous depending on the writers

*A shame all this happened. I only ordered one piece from BCS, the Goldfinger James Bond, which was/is a very well-made piece with great and numerous accessories and still looks awesome upwards of half a decade later. BCS really scored big with landing the Bond franchise license but somehow still went bust. BCS was based in Leicester, which is only about an hour away from where I live (Derbyshire)*

As a gen z I don’t think this is about me I think it’s about the elite

Really good episode and the final revelation was a gut-punch, especially for anyone who has experienced racism. I think this one is worth a re-watch for the team. BTW, she's surprised that the Doctor and Ruby are in the same room together, because, well.....