Always enjoy listening to your takes as fellow Aussie - you were both very fair. I was little more annoyed with the use of Sutekh. Thanks for taking the time to share.
After last weeks episode, and the amazing reveal (which I did not see coming) I can't help but feel disappointed. This feels like a similar situation with the Series 3 finale where all the stops were pulled only for a big reset to happen with next to no consequences. Also the reveal of Ruby's mother was anticlimactic. I don't see any other way of looking at it. For the whole series (and a Christmas special) to be building up to this is just disappointing. I am looking forward to whatever Mrs Flood is revealed to be in the future (hoping for another Missy or a Rani reveal).
Hello lads from a late evening in a very very very hot USA... Enjoyed listening to your show. Wish I had enjoyed the episode but I disliked most of the writing. The VFX, and performances were proper highlights, however I was very distracted by how flimsy the plot worked together. I was definitely left with many questions that I don't expect to get answers to, and am feeling less enthusiastic about the next season. I'll spare you a list of specifics and just write that I am left in the ballpark of being as disappointed with the show as I was during the Chibnall era.
The season is quite bad, if I have to rate it I’d give it a 4/10. The finale was very bad imo. BTW why was the time window working for so long, it was meant to be broken after last episode. All we got in the last scene was “it’s starting to remember” that doesn’t work if the mother is a random teen. It made no sense!!!
I think you guys have been very kind Okay as a piece of fluff this was fun....but COME ON ! The whole Season was building up to THIS? A SPOON saves the Universe? Intelligent Rope WTF! You can now summon the TARDIS with a whistle like a dog! They killed off major characters with Magic Dust that you KNEW were coming back. So there was ZERO suspense, clearly RTD was going to hit the RESET button AGAIN. The revelation of Ruby's Mum was so anticlimactic. Just a random Mum dropping off a newborn at a church RTD just wrote a big budget Soap Opera. To top it all off Mrs Flood is Mary Poppins. To quote my Mum when I was a naughty child " I'm not angry, just very disappointed".
To be fair, we covered stuff like the magic dust, knowing everyone would return, a lack of suspense around that. And other stuff you mention. I - Rob - even used the name Mary Poppins to describe Mrs Flood at the end. So you're sort of saying this stuff to us like it's new information - yet we said it ourselves in the episode?
Oh I thought you were totally fair and I agree( although my thoughts were my own and not deliberately mirroring yours I didn't catch your Poppins reference so clearly I wasn't the only one to notice ). Saying you were kind was a compliment. As a viewer of 61 years I cannot forgive this lazily written episode that the whole season was building up to. PS Brilliant spotting of Rose's non involvement in the confrontation with Sutekh. I'm sure she was meant to be looking for some kind of solution or something but it just looked like she was a disinterested teenager playing games on her iPad
I feel this needed more Sutekh. While the reveal was good last week, one of the problems with the way RTD leaves most till the finale is he doesn't have a lot of time left. I get what they where doing with Ruby's mother, showing how people see mysteries in things that are just normal but it just doesn't add up with the snow etc. I think if it wasn't for the snow I could have bought it. People are also saying that Mrs flood is Clara as when she comes back she says clever boy but I don't see it myself
I was thinking that Rose was using her pad to activate some kind of weapons or some other technical thing... Not that she was literally just playing on the tablet.
Always enjoy listening to your takes as fellow Aussie - you were both very fair. I was little more annoyed with the use of Sutekh. Thanks for taking the time to share.
After last weeks episode, and the amazing reveal (which I did not see coming) I can't help but feel disappointed. This feels like a similar situation with the Series 3 finale where all the stops were pulled only for a big reset to happen with next to no consequences. Also the reveal of Ruby's mother was anticlimactic. I don't see any other way of looking at it. For the whole series (and a Christmas special) to be building up to this is just disappointing. I am looking forward to whatever Mrs Flood is revealed to be in the future (hoping for another Missy or a Rani reveal).
I think Rose was using the IPad to control the ceiling lasers and she was “shooting” at Sutekh as much as anyone
An interesting idea, I'll watch for that on re-watch.
Hello lads from a late evening in a very very very hot USA... Enjoyed listening to your show. Wish I had enjoyed the episode but I disliked most of the writing. The VFX, and performances were proper highlights, however I was very distracted by how flimsy the plot worked together. I was definitely left with many questions that I don't expect to get answers to, and am feeling less enthusiastic about the next season. I'll spare you a list of specifics and just write that I am left in the ballpark of being as disappointed with the show as I was during the Chibnall era.
The season is quite bad, if I have to rate it I’d give it a 4/10. The finale was very bad imo. BTW why was the time window working for so long, it was meant to be broken after last episode. All we got in the last scene was “it’s starting to remember” that doesn’t work if the mother is a random teen. It made no sense!!!
I think you guys have been very kind
Okay as a piece of fluff this was fun....but COME ON ! The whole Season was building up to THIS?
A SPOON saves the Universe? Intelligent Rope WTF! You can now summon the TARDIS with a whistle like a dog!
They killed off major characters with Magic Dust that you KNEW were coming back. So there was ZERO suspense, clearly RTD was going to hit the RESET button AGAIN.
The revelation of Ruby's Mum was so anticlimactic. Just a random Mum dropping off a newborn at a church RTD just wrote a big budget Soap Opera. To top it all off Mrs Flood is Mary Poppins.
To quote my Mum when I was a naughty child " I'm not angry, just very disappointed".
To be fair, we covered stuff like the magic dust, knowing everyone would return, a lack of suspense around that. And other stuff you mention. I - Rob - even used the name Mary Poppins to describe Mrs Flood at the end. So you're sort of saying this stuff to us like it's new information - yet we said it ourselves in the episode?
Oh I thought you were totally fair and I agree( although my thoughts were my own and not deliberately mirroring yours I didn't catch your Poppins reference so clearly I wasn't the only one to notice ). Saying you were kind was a compliment. As a viewer of 61 years I cannot forgive this lazily written episode that the whole season was building up to.
PS Brilliant spotting of Rose's non involvement in the confrontation with Sutekh. I'm sure she was meant to be looking for some kind of solution or something but it just looked like she was a disinterested teenager playing games on her iPad
@@dougsims4242 all good. If you want to hear the Mary Poppins bit, head to 23:30. And yes, I still can't get over how odd that scene looked with Rose.
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I feel this needed more Sutekh. While the reveal was good last week, one of the problems with the way RTD leaves most till the finale is he doesn't have a lot of time left.
I get what they where doing with Ruby's mother, showing how people see mysteries in things that are just normal but it just doesn't add up with the snow etc. I think if it wasn't for the snow I could have bought it.
People are also saying that Mrs flood is Clara as when she comes back she says clever boy but I don't see it myself
The spoon scene is theorized to just be that Suteck is just that heartless
I was thinking that Rose was using her pad to activate some kind of weapons or some other technical thing... Not that she was literally just playing on the tablet.
Gary mentioned that yesterday in the comments if you scroll down.