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Mark Vicente
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 7 ม.ค. 2019
Author, speaker, NXIVM whistleblower and award-winning director Mark Vicente was behind the sleeper hit WHAT THE BLEEP DO WE KNOW?! Growing up during the Apartheid era in South Africa, Mark learned early on to question fundamental assumptions and beliefs about human behavior. While that curiosity served him well, it also led him into direct contact with truly malignant personalities masquerading as forward-thinking philosophical leaders teaching self-improvement while inflicting unthinkable damage to their followers.
His defection from the NXIVM cult was chronicled in the HBO series THE VOW. Mark and a few courageous whistleblowers exposed the criminal activities of this organization, resulting in multiple arrests and indictments. Mark is currently in production on a number of films including one on Narcissism, called “Empathy Not Included” On his podcast; “WTF is on my Mind?!” he unpacks cults, coercion, trauma, spirituality, science, consciousness and media.
His defection from the NXIVM cult was chronicled in the HBO series THE VOW. Mark and a few courageous whistleblowers exposed the criminal activities of this organization, resulting in multiple arrests and indictments. Mark is currently in production on a number of films including one on Narcissism, called “Empathy Not Included” On his podcast; “WTF is on my Mind?!” he unpacks cults, coercion, trauma, spirituality, science, consciousness and media.
I Got Infected!
How We Get Infected by Ideas - And 5 Steps to Break Free
In this episode of WTF is on My Mind?!, I explore the concept of ideological infection-the psychological trap where we become so emotionally attached to our beliefs, movements, or public figures that any challenge to them feels like a personal attack.
I break down why this happens, from cognitive biases like confirmation bias and motivated reasoning to the fight-or-flight response triggered when our worldview is questioned. I also dive into the five steps to break free from ideological capture and how to retrain our thinking to be more open, thoughtful, and independent.
This is a deep dive into how dogma, tribalism, and media manipulation shape our beliefs-and how we can resist falling into the trap.
00:00 - Welcome: The Trap of Ideological Infection
An introduction to the episode’s theme: how we get emotionally attached to beliefs and why questioning them can feel so threatening.
00:30 - My Personal Experience With Ideological Infection
A moment of self-awareness-how I caught myself reacting emotionally to criticism of someone I admire.
01:25 - What is Ideological Infection?
The psychological and emotional mechanisms that make us defensive when our beliefs are challenged.
01:47 - Confirmation Bias, Motivated Reasoning & The Fight-or-Flight Response
A breakdown of why our brain resists new information that contradicts what we already believe.
02:51 - Why We Attach Our Identity to Beliefs
How sports, politics, and religion all create identity-based loyalty that makes us emotionally invested in defending “our side.”
04:23 - The Similarity Between Political Extremes and Religious Fundamentalism
How deeply held political beliefs can mimic religious dogma.
07:47 - The Science of Cognitive Dissonance
Exploring how Leon Festinger’s 1957 theory explains our need to avoid mental discomfort.
06:08 - The ‘V’ Word - How Certain Topics Trigger Extreme Reactions
Why some subjects-like v*xxines-become ideological battlefields with zero room for discussion.
12:49 - Breaking Free: Five Steps to Escape Ideological Capture
Practical steps to detach from rigid thinking and embrace critical inquiry.
12:56 - Step 1: Recognize Emotional Triggers
How to pause and analyze why a topic or argument makes you react so strongly.
13:51 - Step 2: Engage With Opposing Ideas (Without Arguing)
The value of reading, listening, and understanding perspectives without the need to “win.”
14:44 - Step 3: Adopt a Mindset of Inquiry
Why asking “What if I’m wrong?” can sharpen your thinking and reveal blind spots.
16:07 - Step 4: Detach Identity From Beliefs
You are not your political party, religious affiliation, or ideology-you are a thinking individual.
17:07 - Step 5: Understand Your Brain’s Biases
Becoming aware of cognitive distortions can help you avoid ideological capture.
18:41 - Bonus Tip: Turn Off the News
Why mainstream media thrives on keeping people divided and angry-and how stepping away helps clear your mind.
Patreon: www.patreon.com/MarkVicente
Website: www.markvicente.com
Instagram: markvicente
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Facebook: markvicente/
In this episode of WTF is on My Mind?!, I explore the concept of ideological infection-the psychological trap where we become so emotionally attached to our beliefs, movements, or public figures that any challenge to them feels like a personal attack.
I break down why this happens, from cognitive biases like confirmation bias and motivated reasoning to the fight-or-flight response triggered when our worldview is questioned. I also dive into the five steps to break free from ideological capture and how to retrain our thinking to be more open, thoughtful, and independent.
This is a deep dive into how dogma, tribalism, and media manipulation shape our beliefs-and how we can resist falling into the trap.
00:00 - Welcome: The Trap of Ideological Infection
An introduction to the episode’s theme: how we get emotionally attached to beliefs and why questioning them can feel so threatening.
00:30 - My Personal Experience With Ideological Infection
A moment of self-awareness-how I caught myself reacting emotionally to criticism of someone I admire.
01:25 - What is Ideological Infection?
The psychological and emotional mechanisms that make us defensive when our beliefs are challenged.
01:47 - Confirmation Bias, Motivated Reasoning & The Fight-or-Flight Response
A breakdown of why our brain resists new information that contradicts what we already believe.
02:51 - Why We Attach Our Identity to Beliefs
How sports, politics, and religion all create identity-based loyalty that makes us emotionally invested in defending “our side.”
04:23 - The Similarity Between Political Extremes and Religious Fundamentalism
How deeply held political beliefs can mimic religious dogma.
07:47 - The Science of Cognitive Dissonance
Exploring how Leon Festinger’s 1957 theory explains our need to avoid mental discomfort.
06:08 - The ‘V’ Word - How Certain Topics Trigger Extreme Reactions
Why some subjects-like v*xxines-become ideological battlefields with zero room for discussion.
12:49 - Breaking Free: Five Steps to Escape Ideological Capture
Practical steps to detach from rigid thinking and embrace critical inquiry.
12:56 - Step 1: Recognize Emotional Triggers
How to pause and analyze why a topic or argument makes you react so strongly.
13:51 - Step 2: Engage With Opposing Ideas (Without Arguing)
The value of reading, listening, and understanding perspectives without the need to “win.”
14:44 - Step 3: Adopt a Mindset of Inquiry
Why asking “What if I’m wrong?” can sharpen your thinking and reveal blind spots.
16:07 - Step 4: Detach Identity From Beliefs
You are not your political party, religious affiliation, or ideology-you are a thinking individual.
17:07 - Step 5: Understand Your Brain’s Biases
Becoming aware of cognitive distortions can help you avoid ideological capture.
18:41 - Bonus Tip: Turn Off the News
Why mainstream media thrives on keeping people divided and angry-and how stepping away helps clear your mind.
Patreon: www.patreon.com/MarkVicente
Website: www.markvicente.com
Instagram: markvicente
X: x.com/markvicente
TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@mark_vicente
Facebook: markvicente/
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My 2 cents is that clearly not all men or women have the same level of sexual desire (hunger) but often the type of person who wants to lead, or be large and in charge also have a high sex drive. Just my theory! I see so many “spiritual leaders” aka Pastors who had sex scandals. It’s crazy!
Excellent topic so relevant in todays world
Great video! Couldn't agree more. Long time Amazonian here. Actually, tomorrow will be my last day after 19 years. They've essentially been my only employer during my adult years. I absolutely adopted their philosophy in all aspects of my life. Promptly discredited all things negative in the media despite having my own similar experiences. It wasn't until they attempted to lay me off in 2023 that my unconditional support came to an end. Now I talk less and listen more when they are the subject... which has been quite eye-opening. It is why I'm finally making the choice to leave on my own terms. I'm not going to leave it all behind, though. One thing that I will be sure to take with me is the principle of Learn and Be Curious.
Ten commandments!
When emotional reasoning hijacks rationality.
Thank you for your work and nuanced point of view. I am always waiting eagerly for your videos. 🔥
It would be awesome to see you talking with Gabor Mate ;)
That would be cool!
it is not easy to accept opposite ideas as true for the other, but with practice it is possible .....why i see my ideas as my only source of identity? while there is no permanency...thank you Mark for sharing your experiences...thank you.
Well said!
💯 Mark! Keep spreading the message. Hopefully it will begin to sink in.
That's the plan!
Appreciate the psychological thrust here, but you're talking about people who still buy into the duopoly. 42% of Americans don't. They didn't vote, and, for many, it was NOT out of apathy, but out of keen attention to whom the parties work in concert to represent.
Thanks for weighing in on this. Someone with your real life experience can help shed light for the many who are still walking around like they’re under a spell and they appear to not know it in spite of all the evidence that’s in plain sight 🤷🏻♀️
An important video. Plus yes I am ready to give up the news and media machine, especially now that I know how much it's being manipulated behind-the-scenes. Many years ago I got stuck in the far left extreme for a bit and what a hell that was. Give me grey areas, balance and self-reflection. Give me people who say "I don't know, I am not sure, let me think about that". Give me the pause & contemplation.👌
Thank you for this. We all need reminding. Humility is key.
Worthwhile topic, clearly explained-Thanks
I didn’t take the shot, but I didn’t want to take a side entirely… some of the antivax crowd were claiming there were chips and something was creating a super cancer, it was a bible prophecy etc. my grandma didn’t get the shot either, and she was recently diagnosed with kidney cancer… and a few others have developed serious medical issues without any shot… immediately I thought to myself if they had received the shot I might be wondering if it caused it because I had been hearing rumours - it was a good reminder for me not to take sides and believe everything I hear from anyone. Some of my friends have assumed I’m with the conspiracy crowd and believing the most extreme theories, so I understand RFK’s position, he listens to stories but he’s cautious of assumptions without solid evidence. We know big pharma’s reputation is not squeaky clean (fentanyl crisis, Theranos etc), but that doesn’t mean I’m going to pick a cult leader on the other side and follow them over a cliff either…
how we break free?
I really feel good about this video, Mark, important and glad you are role modeling staying curious about our reactions.
I needed this reminder - the urge to seek confirmation bias is difficult for me to resist. Meanwhile, stay curious and go for the “big” guests, Mark!
Metacognition is a skill that can be a great antibiotic against these strange ideological capture.
To help metacognition, It’s also effective to examine opposing views with the question, “in what way is this perspective correct?”
Love the channel Mark - and the antidote: Stay curious!
Great to see your personal checks-and-balances kicking in to help you steer through life. A vital skill you have honed. The smear-campaign against anyone speaking out, or making public details of culty operations, is effective but not wholly -- if you keep chipping away and you're tenacious you'll get there.
That was very interesting, thank you Mark!
Jung said something to the effect of - rational argument will lose all possibility of success in the face of rising emotionality . Once the level raises above a certain point , reason is replaced with slogans, chimeric wishes, ad hominem etc A collective possession results in psychic epidemic.
I often disagree with you and think you still have a tendency toward mental rigidity, but this sort of thing needs to be talked about more.
I can really relate to this. Just after I left the church I was in, I continued to defend them wherever someone criticized them. I can’t even understand why. This video gave me a new perspective. Thank you Mark! Staying Curious in California 😊
That title was very effective…raised my eyebrows!
I’m angry because people are supporting others being harmed for their skin color, sexuality, gender ,etc. Lots of food for thought however.
Meta thinking. It's important. Well played.
20:30 👌
Did anyone find out the film he was talking about with two boys on a island.
I think it was "Lord of the Flies"
@ Thank you 😊 You and Lubomir are my new Mentors :) ✨⭐️✨
P.s There seems to be a TV series called The coral Island in 83, think its based off the characters from Lord of the Flies.
Thank you for this. From my personal experience, she explains it so well.
Cant believe Richard is an ex ninja like me... was very violent way of thinking so i quit aswell
I love and respect the realness of this conversation. Also, I have a theory that people wNPD are much higher in numbers, it’s just that some are in decades long marriages/relationships, and some found the perfect host to parasite of off and the other partner is content with that. Or couples who are both toxic and both have NPD. Some die due to self sabotage behaviors etc. I’m just certain there’s a lot more of them population wise than reported. A lot of them don’t even know they have NPD which is typical.
Been there. Glad I'm free. Love ya Mark✌🏼🎬
Right on!
I think there are many people who look to the outside world eg: celebrities and even soapies and reality tv to try and work out their own lives. If people are isolated you need to have your Wilsons 😂
Thanks for the video of the reading and commentary! I read this with my 10th grade English class in the U.S. (I'm an English teacher.) It took a while to explain the background of the story (Groot Trek, etc.) but they seem to have gotten the message. Bosman's stories are so impactful!
Wonderful!
And then ADD obligation.
Last thing he said to me after 31 years devoted to him was we can still be friends. 😢uh no and nope. No contact for 8 years
Got that tshirt
Amazing interview, as usual. I loved the part where you spoke about accepting the fact that the narcissist doesn't have empaty, that there is a nothingness there (I don't know if the word exists).
Thanks for sharing!
this was great, save the gender bias. most of the time, women walk away from the relationship. north of 80 percent of divorces are initiated by women. i'm tired of listening to men getting blamed for everything when the facts on the ground don't bear that out. on some level, it seems like every woman's ex boyfriend or ex husband is a narcissist, or that's what yt comment sections would lead you to believe. women have destroyed my life, but no one is going to listen to that. i've given my all to relationships just to see women walk away without an ounce of empathy.
It’s difficult to quantify men vs women simply because men mostly don’t say what happened to them
Thank you for this interview. As much as this is painful to think about again, I so appreciate this NPD info getting out there so people see what’s coming with these folks. I escaped someone I think is truly NPD and the relationship and post separate abuse coast me 18 months of my life. At first he was the most charming , thoughtful, and loving man I’d ever met. I felt more love than ever in my whole life. Very quickly after full buy in on my part, I ended up a shell of myself and fearing for my life. The emotional torture was excruciating. He shifted from my so called soulmate to a man who put hands on me in anger and threatened my life to keep me from leaving. After my escape and a year of trauma therapy I can now see that NPD playbook clear as day and as you said I’ll never unsee it. I’m now in a different State and living a wonderful life. Thanks again for putting information out to help others.
Absolutly SPOT ON NAILED IT.
Ive gained so much insight from your episodes on narcissism. Ive been able to talk with close friends experiencing narcissistic abuse and guide them towards your media as a doorway to walk through to better understanding their situations. Thank you!
I just want to say that the reason the term narcissist has become a description is because there are a lot of people displaying these patterns and very few diagnosis of BPD. The reason is because number 1.....there is no effective treatment. The truth is they cause illness and stress.....but frankly there is really nothing wrong with them. They are skilled at getting what they want regardless of the damage it causes to others.
This is a great clip from a great interview. You keep knocking it out of the park Mark!
This was fascinating! I especially liked the gravity that is given to the trauma of revealing the lie that a person is living from narcissistic abuse. My favorite interview so far.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I drop everything when WTF drops a YT!
You rock!
hi! you often talk about narcissism. i never stepped into that concept, when it came up some years ago online (from theme psychopath to theme narcissism, in true crime videos). sorry, i come from a complete other side. i am lesbian. when our teacher showed us a painting of narciss looking in the water in school, i felt close to it. like the picture shows the essential (natural) core of love in homosexual love. i always liked the picture. i combined feelings of love with the painting of narciss. the best should be the worst? do you know the origin story about narciss? the origin, origin?it is about a young beautiful human man (who was representing god on earth). one god loved him, but the young man was killed accidentally. the god cried. and the god created a flower as a remembering of the young man forever. in this early times nature was also seen as a representing of god on earth. in german wikipedia to narziss, there are written some new scientific research infos,that the story of narziss goes back to a nature god that was known and praised in a part of greece. i am sceptic about the narzissism narrative that is represented today and like it is represented as real and factual, like almost it is existing in functional wasy in a person or also the body. :o before narzissism the ego was the devil in the esoteric community. i could laugh if it was not so sad. the self (this is meant with ego) is our happiness and is called the evil thing from people who claim they know it. not such a word like "ego" is in holy texts, sutras from hinduism and buddhism. it is talked about the self (read nirvana sutra of the buddha for example. or watch some explaining deeper videos from dr. toni page about the unterstanding and meaning of several buddhistic texts, that he translated also. his videos are on youtube). that the self is holy and eternal. that it brings happyness. that it can not be destroyed. and it is talked about in these holy books things that hinder us to see that self. but the aim is to realize this beautiful self. things that hinder us to see it, so i understand it, are not entities of wrong, evil selfs. like it is seen, viewed, told. but you can make up your mind yourself and read those texts yourself! i think many people, also in the esoteric community, should have read more themselves first and understand themselves before getting active. even in the buddhistic environment there are said things that are not compatible with the origin sutras of the buddha. like for example: there is no self. so maybe the thought was build that a self is a evil thing? good bye!
Anyone that mentions Jesus is brainwashed. These people are oblivious.