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You're right that the colors all look good - and even better in person! I picked the color that I would have wanted a toy car to be if I were still a kid... I think the contrast roof really sets it apart. Thanks for your comments.

Thanks for posting a comment. My suggestion is that you get behind the wheel of a Grenadier and try it out for yourself on a long test drive (I took mine out for almost 2 hours) and be sure to experience the AC system to see if it behaves or mis-behaves, and decide if you still fancy the Grenadier at all if certain things were updated. My main point is that this is the first version and you can continue to enjoy your current vehicles and keep an eye on how things progress as I am sure that they will over time. It just may not be up to what you need just yet - but I think you'll be a happy bunny if you ever get the opportunity to own one.

@MyAutomobileObsession Yes. I'm more of a techie so I like everything working and connected perfectly. I do wireless android on my cars for a good 5 years now and never had a problem unless there's no cell signal. I'm waiting for them to work out the kinks and I'll be watching more long term reviews 😀

Glad to hear that you're enjoying your Grenadier. Thanks for commenting!

Thanks for your comments - It's great to hear from the far side of the country! I've had a few people make mention of the Fox stabilizer and I'm going to follow up. I can't do anything that would make my Grenadier taller as it won't fit in my building garage. I understand about your kids thinking the Grenadier is cool. My nephews call it my Rhino hunting truck...

Thanks for the tip. I'll look into it!

I have the non-adjustable from Fox and it was $400 installed by my dealer.

I agree with you that there are a few, very few instances where a small little car would be more suited to some city stuff, but I'm sure you'll be able to keep your Grenadier running great for many years to come. Thanks for commenting.

I'm guessing that you're referring to the OG Defender and not the modern day version. Yes, we people love to have our gripes but I feel they did a really good job for the most part at creating a fun to drive and fun to look at vehicle on their first attempt. Thanks for your comments!

@ I’m referring to the Defender (Puma) not the modern day Pretender…

Thanks for your comment. I re-watched and also noted around 14:20 you can see that the wheel really does come back on its own - just not fully. I assist it just a little. To me, this is a non-issue after I drove the car for the first 15 minutes. I have seen some other videos where people overplay the loose and minimal steering response and I guess you can get that to happen if you drive it like that, but I am in the "steering is different, but perfectly OK" category.

Thanks for sharing this - it's great to hear how much you're enjoying your Grenadier and it also is a big help to those who are trying to decide if the Grenadier is right for them.

Thanks for your comments, and also about the Grenadier bonnet decal - I didn't know if anybody would find that interesting, so thanks for letting me know! Glad to hear you're enjoying your Grenadier - I know we put up with a few things but it's all worth it for the enjoyment we get.

You ask a good question, but what I learned about myself is that I have an affinity for European automobiles. My very first car was a new Toyota Celica back in 1977 and I worked really hard to earn and save for it. That car lasted me all the way through graduate school and it was truly fun and reliable. But I was ready for something else, and began selecting cars for other factors, and the japan makes while always top quality, seemed to engineer out the excitement in my opinion as I moved towards wanting sportier things. So, it's preference and historical perspective lead me away and I haven't looked back. I never even consider them - for better or worse - as cars aren't about having the best as much as having the best for me - which isn't always the most practical choice. Thanks for your comment.

Thanks for your comment. Well, one of the reasons that I sold to Carvana was it was quick, (mostly) easy, and I didn't have to become involved with the subsequent owner. I gave them a car that was ready to sell, but it was also 8 years old and was coming up on scheduled maintenance that I preferred to let them sort. I don't think you make the max on selling your used car unless you do it privately by yourself and I live in a big town where the risks of fraud and scams make private party selling a big undertaking with a less certain outcome. So, I chose the path that I did, and chose not to fret about it. But you're right, I could have gotten more.

Thanks for your comment. I hate car payments and do whatever to pay off early and own the car outright. It never occurred to me that they are focusing on a different demographic. However, I'm not certain that I understand how that impacts my selling a car to Carvana (or Carmax).

It would be interesting to hear your impressions after driving one and comparing to 4Runners. I last test drove one (too) many years ago, but back then it was very truck-y and had a lot of body roll. I don't think I can give a comparison other than to say I think you'll be impressed with the ride quality of the Grenadier. Let's hope they open a dealer in your area soon as that makes the decision much easier! Thanks for commenting.

Thanks for your comments. I have personally owned 6 Land Rovers (3 RR's, 2 RR Sports, 1 Discovery) and I loved them all to bits. I just began to feel that the brand I supported for all those years was leaving me in the dust in favor of the glitzy upmarket rather than the can-do-all rugged yet classy crowd. I won't ever fault you for owning a Land Rover, but I got off the bus when they became the soccer-mom and Kardashian vehicle of choice as it began to feel like a fashion accessory (at least where I live) and I don't buy cars to impress others - I buy them to impress me. The Grenadier has the credibility and offers what my very first Range Rover did back when people looked at it and couldn't understand why I would buy such a thing. You'll give up many creature comforts switching to a Grenadier that the Land Rovers now have and take for granted, but there's a certain feeling you get when driving the Grenadier that is unmatched by any current Land Rover product. Enjoy the process of researching and getting whatever you ultimately choose!

Thanks for your comments. I'm looking into my tire pressure - which had just kicked off right before I began recording.

@You can find a pressure you prefer somewhere under that identified pressure, with in reason, to achieve even wear and ride comfort, on or off road, then reset your warning by going into vehicle settings find the menu, can’t remember what it’s called, select reset and the pressure your tires are at at reset will be the new baseline and you won’t receive any warning unless it’s over or below the new set pressure, whatever that is a couple of PSI over or under.

Thanks for commenting. I suppose you're right. I'll wear the badge proudly...

LOL - It sounds like you've learned a few life lessons along the way. I like how you think! Thanks for your comment.

You ask a good question! The warning just came on before I started recording and I was a bit puzzled by it, but haven't looked into it yet. I do know that the standard tire pressure is on the high end for these tires, so that's not the surprising part. It's the fact that it's only one pound less than the other back tire.

Agreed! No car is perfect, and we just need to find the one that is perfect for us. Thanks for your comments.

Thanks for your comments. Half the fun of getting a Grenadier is that wait and the excitement that builds as you wait for the one being built just for you. Just be sure to get what you want when you finally do. I find that I enjoy the cars that I special order much more than by selecting one off of a dealer lot. So here's looking forward with you!

@@MyAutomobileObsession Thanks so much for your reply. I would use mine as a daily driver and I can appreciate how you explain to us the audience that it is a daily driver. I currently have a Jeep (a fake one) Renegade and I know it will be a lot larger going to the IG. Note: I went from a Mini to the Jeep about 8 years ago and that felt like that was a huge difference. I can only imagine how it was for you when you went from a Mini to the IG. Thank you.

Thanks, Steve. I appreciate hearing from Grenadier owners around the world! It's great to hear that you have been having a great experience with your Grenadier - I know that it helps those who are still evaluating and deciding, so thanks for taking the time to comment.

@MyAutomobileObsession Thankyou indeed 👍.

Thank you for your comments. I appreciate your kind words. I just returned from a month away in Europe - mostly in Germany. They were just setting up Christmas markets as I as leaving. Happy Holidays!

Thanks for your comment. It's not the first time I've bought off-road dedicated vehicles, either. I just thought it was appropriate to clarify as I do get off-road questions and I just have a different use-case, but still want to have the fun of driving a big truck!

I 100% agree that access to dealer is more important than some people realize, I hear from many who resist buying as they want more local support and to not drive 4 hours to go and collect a Grenadier and contemplate service needs. I have come to learn that all new cars have implemented ADAS that has become a mandated requirement and only fault INEOS in the implementation of some of these features. I now know that other new cars have similar annoyances and you can no longer buy a car that doesn't have these features in some shape or form. Thanks for commenting and sorry to hear that you sold your Grenadier, but certainly understand your reasoning.

Agreed - It's my only vehicle currently (by choice) as I live in a building with 3 parking spaces that are tandem and it's a pain if you want to take out the car parked behind the others. So I live with just one and really that's all I need. If I had another car it would be my MINI as the two vehicles would cover the gamut of the things I want in a car. Thanks for your comment!

It's 24 US Gallons. Not big enough, in my opinion. I like a range of 400+ miles, and the Grenadier with it's MPG is in the low to mid 300's. A minor disappointment, but it is what it is. Thanks for the question.

I have heard miscellaneous comments referring to this and will investigate as it's really my only unfixable (so far) gripe. I don't usually modify, but will check this out. Thank you for commenting!

Yes, and yes. I think we all wanted more, but I chose the Grenadier from a list of one. I had test driven the LR Defender when it first came out during the pandemic, but my housewife sister bought one a year ago and that signaled something to me that JLR had jumped the shark and became less off-road rugged and more urban jungle rugged. I'm a little strange in that I decide what I want not 100% based on comparison shopping, but rather the excitement I feel when I see the vehicle and the anticipated fun I will have while owning it. So, when I first saw the Grenadier prototype in 2020, I was in. Steering (although odd) didn't matter. It was still an experience that I wanted to have. If I were shopping today, I'd still not be looking at anything electric (too impractical for me), but my next car is likely to be something sportier as I enjoy mixing things up. Thanks for your comments!

Thanks for commenting. Glad to hear that you're enjoying your Grenadier and happy to hear from Canada as I know there are only 2 dealers up there so far.

No new windshield, don't have protection film either - I guess I'm old-school when it comes to PPF. Thanks for putting this on my radar!

I agree. I was unaware for the first few months about the need to reset the tire pressure. I was inflating, I was deflating, it was driving me nuts. Then I discovered the pressure reset in the infotainment settings. Can’t remember where in the menu precisely. Took a couple minutes.

This warning went off literally as I went out to record - so I haven't done anything yet. Your comment clearly lets me know that I have something to clear and it won't clear itself. I appreciate hearing from viewers with experience on things I have yet to see, so thanks for commenting!

Thanks for your comments. It's great hearing from those with many more miles than me report about their (enduring) enjoyment of their Grenadier.

I know, I'm a little late to the party... I get a lot of questions about problems and reliability which makes doing a video like this as time progresses relevant. Others who have owned much longer than me chime in with their successes (or woes), and I think it's helpful for those who are still on the sidelines. Thanks for commenting.

Thanks for your comments! I appreciate hearing from seasoned owners and I know that viewers do too as it proves that the Grenadier is holding up quite well in the eyes of those who drive them.

Thanks for your comments. We certainly do make a few trade-offs when choosing a Grenadier, but like you, I'm enjoying mine and fortunate that I'm the only driver as I know that memory seats save loads of frustration when others drive. They actually launched the portal axel Grenadier at the LA Auto show, and it sounds like they will do small batch production, but better to get from the factory than in aftermarket. I've not heard anything about memory seats so far as they seem destined to keep the area to be something you can rinse out with a hose, which does not compute when we contemplate electric seat motors. Time will tell... Glad to hear that you're enjoying your Grenadier!

Thanks for asking. Yes, they have to perform the updates as there is no over-the-air capability in the Grenadier.

Thanks for sharing this, Lou. I had it happen once and just let it go. But recently has happened a couple more times, so will be investigating a little further as you are right, it should not be happening.

Thanks for your comment - I'll look into the 3rd bleed procedure. The HVAC basically works, but certainly has a mind of its own!

That is something I personally have never experienced in 18 months of ownership.

Silent on mine

Thanks for the comment - I do hear this whine and frankly it is not heard when you're inside the Grenadier cab - I didn't realize the extra sound I was hearing was coming from the power steering for the first couple of months. It's a noise in the engine compartment - just like the engine. Hasn't really been a bother any more than hearing the engine.

Great comment. Sometimes it's appropriate to compare and in this case I was laser focused on getting a Grenadier, so I drove nothing else. I have test driven the new LR Defender when it came out, no problems there - great road manners. But the Grenadier steering is not a bother to me except for the turning radius. The return to center "issue" is not really an issue after you spend 15 minutes with the Grenadier.

That’s because your ‘97 cruiser has independent front suspension.

I wondered about this, what’s the total height

Thanks for the question. Total height without any roof rack is 80" (6' 8")

So you want an off road vehicle, without it being an off road vehicle.

Thanks for your comment.

Thanks for that!

Thanks for your comment - much appreciated!

Sadly, it is a downside. I hate car payments and am working on a strategy to pay mine off early in '25. If you're in the U.S., they are offering some pretty good finance deals to move the unsold units, but that didn't help me when I bought mine. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

Yeah, all chips in your looking at 86k.

Thanks for commenting. The smooth ride was one of the first things I noticed. I came from a sports suspension car and it "complained" about every bump in the road. The Grenadier pleasantly ignores them. Great to hear that your's is going strong after almost a year.

It's somehow fun to be able to see what they list and sell your turned in car for as they do it so quickly. I think most people don't follow up once they sell to Carvana, but as you have seen it's pretty easy to find it. If I recall, I got an e-mail advertising mine to me as I had been looking at other MINI cars on their site. To this day they still think I want to buy another MINI and I get an e-mail almost every day. Thanks for commenting.

Thanks for posting a comment. People appreciate hearing from those who actually experienced the process.

Very good point! I have since learned that there are 2 settings for the infotainment - 1 with the headlights on and the other when they're off. That allowed me to turn the brightness down significantly when driving at night. Thanks for commenting.