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Love the review as always! How would you compare this to the IQ Ruby and GB4 hybrid? Are they all relatively in the same medium Sharp category and are they all too close together to have in the same bag?

The jackel ambush is not early reading. My sub zero starts reading 20 ft earlier. Also earlier than my evoke. I am going to polish my ambush and use it for the burn .

I am 1 handed... still watched. 👍 (this is a left thumb, that I use)

I've used these tools since the Troublemaker came out. They originally only had a tool for the Sym layouts, but they've added the Asym tool with the release of the Heckler. Essentially the tools just adjusts the VAL angle to compensate for the lack of a thumb hole. The VAL angle will adjust so many degrees based on the COG distance you choose, together with your PAP location. For me, I notice about 10 degree adjustments for short Pin to COG layouts, and 30+ degree adjustments for 4-5" distances. It's a very nice tool for those PSOs who prefer to use Dual Angle for 2 handers, because slapping a popular 1H dual angle layout on a no thumb ball, can give a much different than expected reaction.

What pro shop in MN do you work at? I’ve had some not so great experiences at a few pro shops in the metro area North of Minneapolis.

This actually came out with the trouble maker. My PAP is 6½ x 1⅛↓ and whenever I try it, it's doesn't calculate it or gives me some crazy number that's more than 90°

where does the outer limits pearl fit?

This company is trying to kill off bowling and bowling is not entertainment it's a sport so this company will continue to be trash

Front messenger... because bowling 😊

"What we have here is a failure to communicate!😏

No one cares 😂

I have: Max Bias, Theorem, Sublime (dull 1000grit…soon to be replace by GB5), madness/crypto boom, cypher, and Supra Gt. Does the madness belong in “med sharp”? I’m thinking of getting breakaway or real time. Too many overlapping @ med sharp?

Great info.......Does core design play a crucial role in the ball motion too? Seems like only Motiv uses the same core design for all weights whereas Others like Storm, the 13lb and below balls have generic core. If core is important as it is the engine that allows the cover to do what it does, then does it mean “generic” core for the lower weights does not take advantage of the latest advanced core design?

Uc3?

Arctic vibe is dog shit

I have the hustle rip and by for that’s my most trustworthy ball in my arsenal especially in Highschool where the lanes get super dry fast i can stay with that ball and it will have a clean finish with every shot.

The Scorpion Low Flare goes to show you that everyone is different. I HATE the darned thing. I've tried to like it. Spent a lot of time with it and can't figure it out. I'm using it as a spare ball. Works great there. Beginning most nights with the Hammer Effect Tour and then move to the Roto Grip Hustle X-Ray. It has my standard layout but have thrown a lot of different layouts and can usually get the balls to what I want after a while but not with my Low Flare. Going to throw some surface on it and see if I like it better as I really don't use a spare ball that much.

This is a must-have for me. HUGE fan of the jackal line, and will compliment my current ones, Crimson, Ghost, and Mythic. Despite a 1000 grit finish out of box, this will be usable for me after resurfacing to 2000 or 3000.

Love my Hustle X Ray. Bought it for our torched wood lanes during league. I've started going to it a little earlier and changing my approach and it's handling the transition pretty good.

I'm rev dominant so medium and weak smooth are my favorite categories. I still use and love my Hustle USA from 2022. It's a great ball. However, it takes a back seat to my 2023 OG Xponent which is a little stronger. The XP is easily my favorite ball in my arsenal. It's super smooth and forgiving and matches up with me really well. I had it resurfaced yesterday and shot 256, 211 and 218 in my senior league.

So you review balls and you changed your opinion on a ball based off of other peoples reviews. 😮😢😅

Tropical Heat Hybrid was very usable for a good bowler... that ball was out over a decade ago though

You picked some ugly balls dude not even close 👎🏼

Surge solid is a Fantastic ball for me. When revs are always over 5 bills... It was love at first throw.

What do you go to when your weak sharp ball starts leaving 10 pins as a righty?

I love the Twist, the Vibe for me was kinda meh I but the Raws over it but I still dig it

Wouldn’t the Black Pearl 78D be considered a continuous smooth ball? Or are you considering it a sharp ball because it’s a “pearl”?

With polish could this ball become a strong/sharp ball?

My son is 14, been bowling a year and has an Artic Vibe, and was one frame / one pin away from a perfect game. Very good benchmark ball, until you really learn how to control the ball. He's got the hammer effect now and that ball is amazing ! He's not bad himself 🤷‍♂️

This one's from 2023 but, my weak/smooth option is Motiv Black Venom. It is a weak assym solid, I can get it through the front really well and with the Gear APG Core, it drives through the pins pretty well. As far as this 2024 list goes, the Arctic Vibe is the best, but it is pretty strong for that slot in the bag. Definitely the top of the weak category.

Motiv hasn't been making weak and smooth bowling balls because they haven't been able to make a ball as good as the Venom Shock, and that was 10 years ago.

I may be getting both the vibe and the x-ray I here these two great balls for the price and both thrills are great for the price as well

I just got the Tropical Surge Pearl black with red . I have everything but nobody oils 🛢 anymore. I'm very happy with it.

That Vibe hooks a tone!! It should be weak and sharpe not smooth.

My Pro Shop talked me into the Arctic vibe for my first ball. I'm so glad it is such a great ball

That’s my only problem with the Ion Pro is the price. The Ion Pro and Ion Max are the same price - $200.

I actually threw a 300 game last season with the Top Thrill blue green pearl. I'm picking up a Max Thrill solid to fill the gap between my Top Thrill and Venom shock.

I have the Arctic Vibe, Max Thrill Solid, and just picked up the Ion Pro. No opinion on the Ion Pro yet, but I would switch the Vibe and Thrill around. I get much better results with the Thrill. I have to keep the Vibe almost in front of me with pretty good speed, otherwise it just hooks too much. The Thrill allows my to keep my regular release and still truck through the pocket. Excited to see what the Ion Pro does this weekend

my ion pops down lane not sure about it being in weak/smooth category

How would the X-ray differ from my M+M on the lanes?

Artic Vibe vs Venom Shock, how do they compare?

Artic Vibe is the best $100 bowling ball ever.

I love my X-ray for open house play. Plus when I'm on wood lanes for game 1.

what makes the Road Warrior better than the Road?? both shiny balls with same core and AI, right ? just the power edge vs reacta gloss ?

Many times distributors create a wall between the makers and the users and the OEMs lose critical customer information and feedback. Now they will have full access to their customers (meaning the pro shops) so this will allow them to be more agile and responsive to pro shops needs.

I knew from my own center that Bowlero did not care about league bowlers, only their bottom line. I agree with so many others who have said that they are ruining the sport of bowling as we know it. Prices continue to go up and the service is getting worse. This is not a good move from a very bad and misinformed company.

Motiv has released several grayish ball. The Raptor Talon, the original Trident, the Tridrnt Abyss, and the Carbode Tank are 4 of them

The all gray one was a Tank.

The original Trident

Current arsenal is xcell attention star ion pro phaze ai spare ball what ball am I missing in my 6 (only storm roto 900) and should I replace the xcell with ion max