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It's something I've only kept improving upon as I get more fresh returning looks at different parts of the game, and even more so knowing more on how the DLC fits into place a lot of details previously left open like signs of Messmer's heritage back in the Lands Between with the Volcano Manor and what not.

@jimmyballer7047 as long as I don't start losing teeth that'll effect speech, a robot voice shouldn't happen.

I do hesitate normally to just place the scripting in video, because I usually see that as a good afterthought space to correct myself live or add onto whatever I was talking about. One example with this video was the Goldmask bit where I found the exact detail of reference that often got noticed by quite a few, but open to interpretation. For the most part though I did well to stay 1:1 with the script unlike the last time where I veered off towards the end of a later section. It'll have to be something I consider, but I find I start with a good confidence and after a while I get the concerns of how much of that energy I'm still retaining after 5-10 minutes, so I'll just have to try a few things to see what works best now, and how I improve in the future, but it might start off just separately reading off the sort of topics or sections I'm recording. In general, I really love finding and bringing attention to these sorts of things because I know most people are too busy only reading and not looking at how it's brought to life or done a bit differently from how you'd expect it. Castle Morne itself majority of what was the live inhabitants were viciously and suddenly replaced by Misbegotten by the time we get there, and their takeover is still underway. I'm often aware of how new the stuff I offer is because I might think of something and be dead sure of it like the Volcano Manor once belonging to the Erdtree and then find out in a quick google search of nothing else half relevant comes up to sometimes only getting Vaati Video results or something that doesn't go over the things I'm looking at. I find the biggest things nobody talks about in the world building and lore are very much all in Elden Ring and Dark Souls 3. Though my timing to bring attention to these things are pretty late for the DS3 stuff because all the attention went into Elden Ring by the community, meanwhile I figured out who the tree women were and that the lands weren't called Lordran still.

@@MossOwnsYouYT I do like this take, and it's one I hadn't seen before. Wish we got more out of the Twinbirds.

@aquilesgarciaperez5918 since then Minecraft has only tripled in block variety, so I'd probably be able to one up it modern day.

I wouldn't doom post it yet unless it's actually short in the actual length. Fromsoft didn't show everything to it yet with the people who got to play it. In design it seems like they used Borderlands mechanics with Elden Ring, and Sekiro movement, then an extraction design with day cycles, only with reviving allies you aren't put in danger of slowly res-ing someone to just beat on them instead. Besides that, they completely overhauled how players work with each other compared to previous titles. Before if an enemy grabbed your friend, you were forced to watch in horror and hope they survived, but in this trailer you could just attack the enemy to free them. They also showed boss encounters that can better balance attention to groups of people as opposed to the linear 1v1 but 2 other people are attacking the same target in function. They've also expanded on group dynamic functions that synergize with the combat by changing around how inventory works and even leveling. Details like removing weight limit at a first glance seems unhinged, but I understand the director of the spinoff wants mobility relevant to the experience like in Sekiro. After a bit research, I realize Junya has worked as a designer with DS1, DS3, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring, so I think this is in better hands than the first glimpse could lead us to believe. In fact he was Elden Ring's battle director, so he's a big part of how the combat worked, presented, and flowed.

Yeah, that’s not because of bad development that’s by nature of game type. This is a spinner. The whole world’s been created. The whole idea has already been implemented. They don’t need to come up with something new Elden Ring / shadow of the Earth tree will be fun to play for years. You’re just mad because it’s not what you wanted. It’s not like it’s Pokémon pinball dude.

My guy doesn't understand repeatable gameplay

Less content? Do you know something we don’t?

@DustDemonTwilight their use of assets and telling if things is notably clarified by Miyazaki and the other directors. But I can tell you there's genuine Easter eggs, but they're already well discovered or not what people are recognizing. A big thing in Elden Ring's distinction is actually what it tries not to be. This is part of how Miyazaki made it more recognized as Elden Ring than Dark Souls. Elden Ring is supposed to sort of mirror it, and so the NPCs along the way also mirror NPCs from Dark Souls. But I recently discovered that the NPCs in the DLC actually mirror Bloodborne's NPCs.

That depends on the perspective. If you want nothing to do with a figure, you might hide their nature as a thing of shame to your place. Just like Messmer to the Lands Between.

@johncrondis4563 ever since DS3, I realized how deliberate the lore implications and map details are and that I couldn't entrust all of them were actually found even by the time Elden Ring came out, so I came to take my investigations a little more seriously on a lot niche things. I started at Soulsborne late, but I found a ton that nobody had ever brought up, and I actually Googled and TH-cam'd around to mostly see the same few people with lore on anything and some aspects similar.

My so far understanding of Daedacar is that the Woe itself could be something of a torture enhancer leftover from the Volcano Manor's older generation and the first in line in relations to House Marais. At a first glance as to what makes the "myriad of grotesque childrren" misleading is strictly where we find the Woe, hovever Marais is the leading family of the Erdtree's Officials who are noble born and perform the darkest deeds in belief that it's only human nature and for the greater good, and signs of their presence stretches all throughout Altus Plateau and even as far as Mountaintop of the Giants with the Bloodsoaked Set and it's implications as the people who likely imprisoned Dung Eater also.

Melina being the GEQ makes more sense than whatever yall have been coming up with. The GEQ has nothing to do with the realm of shadow, she would have been referenced in some way if she was.

@rexwest4532 according to Crucible incantations in the Land of Shadows. It wasn't always the Land of Shadows. And the story DLC trailer suggested Marika brought gold and shadow. The Land of Shadows itself is the center of the Lands Between. This is likely to suggest it was removed from itself if not simply obscured out in the makings of peace, considering there was apparently some means an old establishment of friendly terms between Marika and the Hornsent. The story trailer though depicts some bloodier time unspoken of to the Divine Gate. And we cannot otherwise explain much to the success of "god hunt" of the ancient nobles. Marika became the primary god entity where the rest are very different outer gods like rot, frenzy, formless mother, or the Twin Birds. And the Marika's first lord defeated the Fell God of the Fire Giants after the Erdtree's order which plucked death upon its creation. You're otherwise suggesting Melina became more motherly and had many kids and told them to kill god.

I think it's possible for the reincarnation considering the Frenzy stuff, but considering the grand search the Golden Order stuff for answers to resolve a stronger faith in it, I'm more led to believe Marika was somewhere more deeply invested and found signs that something was internally wrong and that it was hopeless from a long time ago. We learn from Gideon lore of dialogue and items we get from him that in some way things were already broken from quite some time ago. Then Metyr only confirms just how broken by at least the age relevance of Messmer before the Shattering, which we can know was before the Shattering because of his accomplices in his crusade, and it being after the Liurnia war. One thing I don't know is how deep the responsibility of certain damage is from the Night folk with Ymir, but it's very in character that he'd be a potential bigger traitorous factor at work even in the Lands Between. We're also never specified if Metyr's state of being was realized or not to the folks in the Lands Between such as Marika, only that Ymir is stationed on top as a high priest with personal motivations against the Greater Will's agent to replace them in some capacity. I figure there's something more to this to consider with it overlooking an earlier sign of Frenzy and its effects, but I can't be sure of one cause or another just yet. Whichever the case I think Ymir might've spoken of these flaws to others before us and caused possible infighting at Shadow Keep due to it's newer architectural nature, and yet surprising amount of damage to it; let alone the burnt human spirits there and wiped out Banished Knights armor littering only Gaius' boss arena.

This does ring an interesting point in the lack of noteworthy graves that I'm aware of, but I may need to stroll back through the game some more to see what might be a more quiet but peculiar detail besides that one near the minor erdtree church outside the capital's walls, but you're correct on the lack of heartfelt mentions of loss of anyone other than Godwyn to my knowledge with the fingerreader crone in the Deeproot Depths.

Melina says she was "born at the foot of the Erdtree", so I think Marika probably was her mother. Here is my theory, and a lot of this is speculation, so bear with me: - Marika escapes the persecution of the Shamans by hiding out in the Finger Ruins that her home village overlooks. It is there she encounters the Two Fingers and becomes an Empyrean. They guide her down a path of revenge and godhood. - Along this path, Marika is granted Maliketh as a shadow and forms an alliance with a powerful barbarian chief, Hourah Loux. At some point, she has a son with him, Godwyn. - out of a desire to protect her newborn son, Marika uses trickery to use the Hornsent Gate of Divinity to become a full god. Once she does so, she flees the area and set up shop in a surface outpost of an Eternal City. This outpost will eventually become Leyndell. The Hornsent discover her treachery and pronounce a curse upon Marika's children. - the War with the Fire Giants. During the war, Marika becomes soaked with the blood of the Fell God, which melds with her Shaman flesh and Radagon begins to form within her. Not right away though. - Godfrey and Marika have two more children, but both her affected by the nascent Radagon and the Hornsent curse. Messmer and Melina are born. - Radagon emerges, and becomes a separate being from Marika. The Liurnian Wars ensue. Because Radagon is separate from Marika, he is able to father healthy children with Renalla, one of whom is marked as an Empyrean by the Two Fingers. - per the Law of Regression, Radagon is eventually compelled to return to Marika. This causes his next offspring to be cursed. Both are born Empyreans, but the lack of shadows suggest that the Two Fingers quickly gave up on them.

@austinlanger4767 i always seen it as her turning into a shadow like Blaidd. We don't actually hear of where shadows come from to Empyreans, but we know there's still entities that we can't explain yet like Wormface and the revenants. The people of night just want to replace order, and Melina's similarity to their Black Knife Assassins could verify she wouldn't have a greatsword and instead been an underling in service for something, but the Golden Order tends to not speak of a lot of things, and we know Melina is confirmed Messmer's younger sister which would mean to be GEQ she would have to inherit Death after Messmer.

It's because her identity as the GEQ seems to contradict her known previous identity as the kindling maiden. If Melina is the GEQ, why would she lead a Godskins Apostasy against the gods, while also being loyal to Marika and going on a journey to fulfill the purpose set by her? Marika had Maliketh defeat the GEQ and seal the Rune of Death; if she wanted Melina to pursue her goals, why ask Maliketh to stop her? Also, Ranni does not list Melina as one of the Empyrean children of Marika, but we know the GEQ was one.

@@tristanneal9552 Because they are split beings like Marika/Radagon, and Miquella/St Trina I guess. Or even more likely is Marika sealed her away in the same way she sealed destined death in Maliketh and the Serpent in Melina's brother. "Sealing away destined death" could have a double meaning as both sealing DD itself in Maliketh, and also sealing away The GEQ (the wielder of DD) in Melina. I am reasoning backwards because it is just too obvious that we are meant to infer that Melina is the GEQ

because elden ring is too complex for face value concepts to make sense sadly

@k2geekd I have actually a working theory concept for the lore to a fundamental level of what becomes the more believable scale. It's something that I call Inverse Lore Theory, and it's my take on how they wanted to make the game more Elden Ring and less Dark Souls, but it's a concept too broad to talk about in text structure alone. I might make a video on it, but I've seen a lot of lore people make similar small inferences well after I started looking into it 2 years ago-ish.

Hey thanks! I really enjoy diving into the lore and reading into the little details where others might've stopped ever since late DS3, and I love bringing awareness to the bigger concepts that get ignored by mistake.

@FoxBatinaHat I have noticed that the mic I'm using picks up a bit of sound made under the table I'm using, but it's not exactly a good table. I'll have to look into preventing stuff like that a bit better. The mic itself rests on the table, so I think it's absorbing it more loudly than I hear it.

@SnowMacaco I really hope so, there's still a lot of huge plot holes everyone's just filling the gaps for.

Didn't Myazaki already confirm there will be no further expansion or content on for Elden Ring? I think we can get hour hopes to the cemetary xD

@@murderycatdoll1380 Supposedly, they've got no further plans, but that's kinda what they said about DLC initially. What that means is now in the works or is being encouraged behind closed curtains is yet to be confirmed, but we know the DLC is basically doubled in content after a lot of content that they couldn't fit in sooner, but who knows if they'll consider a "whole" other DLC as opposed to something smaller sort like the Coliseum PvP update. Personally, for Elden Ring's size, I could see something like DS2's Scholar of the First Sin edition being a more effective direction with changes to the base game that tell things a bit further than before and expand on the more empty areas or previously cut questlines.

@@BlueAsterismSolstice 👌 Ok, well i would be cery happy about it! XD

This shit is "finished" they could barely get things in order by the time that fat grease ball they hired to make the pre game lore. All the pre day one content was scrapped and replaced due to this DLC being developed. It's why the lore is worse than Bloodborne's. Too many rewrites and not enough time. The game itself launched incomplete. Imagine 23 empty chests. Imagine different mobs. Imagine RoB with Faith scaling. Imagine whole ass weapons missing like the default Katana unless you go for the Samurai class. Imagine Frenzy being noted by purple in your build up. Imagine Maliketh having purple in his destined death attack. Imagine if they just wrote the damn game themselves. Not hard. All they do is rehash the same damn things over and over again.

I actually used a script on this one for the first time in a while, and it's actually done wonders of shaving off perhaps 20-30 more minutes of what would normally be a bit of me vibing a bit of what I'm wanting talk about and getting off tangent. The bigger fumble I personally experienced actually happens in a later portion where I mentioned getting way ahead of myself because I knew it was going a little too far away from the topics I wanted to focus on. But I'll do better to have my phone on mute when recording.

This, bro is laughing at his discord chat instead of presenting his ideas. I'd guess its tiktok brain.

@@ABrickinTime I'd love see more representation of those more open world areas and especially the churches and villages. They already bring the map more to life as is, but the little things are always great.

@yoyoimokazaki Thank you! I really enjoy bringing attention to the little details and bringing them further to life.

W insightful comment

I was kind of cooking as I went and trying to spit the video out faster. I already wasted like 2-3 days remaking it. Will be something I'll do a bit better though later.

@@BlueAsterismSolstice no worries bro , you got some good ideas for sure , HMU if you want help getting some editing basics in .

As an audio engineer by trade I co-sign this comment.

I'm excited to see if the DLC contributes to the topic much in clarification. It's looking to have potential for Messmer to be in someway related with his pale complexion to that of the Godskins.

@@BlueAsterismSolstice If Marika is the daughter of the Gloam Eyed Queen it kind of makes sense that Messmer could be displaying physical traits that belong to his grandmother, the same can be said of Melina

Would love to duel

It's been pretty fun for encounters overall and is based on my S ranking build. The leg type and weight makes it ideal for quite a few maneuvers. I've learned this booster generator combo in this setup is reasonably efficient for half frequent use for how well they recover without compromising more on weight. Overall, the punish is just being aggressive with what's available and it should amount half reasonable to most scenarios except tanks. Trying after B rank since this video, I've been better learning what the real list of flaws in the design actually are, but that's a lot of things I half expected after seeing people double zimmy with stun needle launcher in the past to speed run bosses.

Once I'm done with the Ranked grind, I'm thinking I might go back to custom rooms at some point to fight less meta sweat builds.

Something I wonder is if it's true, then who did she think would die or what would have happened?

my guess is she didnt know Ranni would 'choose' Godwyn or the blade was tampered with to take Godwyn in the process @@BlueAsterismSolstice

@mfyrisingmayo1913 one thing worth mentioning to the topic of this is that we don't know where Radagon stood in all of this, nor when all of it was happening, so it's possible that he's perhaps more in on it.

youre right forgot that could also play into it@@BlueAsterismSolstice

What's some of your favorite areas?

@@BlueAsterismSolstice I only climb things without Torrent because I only do PVP but around Main Academy Gate and Astray From Caelid Highway North grace sites I found a lot of spots

In addition it’s called The Shadow of the Erdtree, and Marais is associated with the SHADED castle. There seems to be a really unnatural gap in the map between the consecrated snowfield and Altus plateau that I think could be where the perspective of the painting is from.

It's absolutely fun to look into for me, and I just don't see enough people making some of these suggestions. I think it's important to look at even the unusual details for possible answers and Elden Ring is physically made of them instead of second thought, unlike previous titles.

I keep looking at bright patches in the sky, but I couldn't personally find anything conclusive. Though the absence of topic to it was the weird part for me. In fact the sunflowers in game suggest they point at the Erdtree. I get a lot of impression it's intended to outshine the sun for faith.

​@@BlueAsterismSolstice i think you should check in limgrave i seen it there most of the time its very small its usually hiding behind godricks divine tower near stormhill shack

Admittedly I'm pretty unfamiliar with dex builds even in current playthroughs of the games. I've always gone the Strength and Faith routes.

@@BlueAsterismSolstice missing out on some fun builds especially rickards rapier and darkmoon blade buff or Friedes Great Scythes

That is how you get your hand shook.

Gargoyles are brutal

For me the death after hurt more

In my playing Dark Souls 3, making the connection that Soul of Cinder is wearing a Lothric armor and has a cutscene of dragging a body through Lothric, it just plain confused me why he was only suggested as a deity manifestation. Overall, I'm thinking Lothric was elsewhere, resting at world's end, and maybe watching over as the first kingdom outside of the Ringed City, but probably too close to the Pygmies and their Dark for Gwyn's distaste, but perhaps more like a distant neighbor. At the same time I realize the modern prince of it is Lothric and perhaps back in time it was King Lordran. It's honestly been a lot of fun for me looking around for interesting details on a little of this and that, and until I sort out a tiny detail, I might not touch Irithyll in video too soon. I otherwise have a bit of history speculations around Velka I think could be interesting to look into, and so far a lot of it lines up, but I need to do a bit more digging around.

@@BlueAsterismSolstice But the Soul of Cinder doesn’t have the lothric crest during the boss fight; it's just the classic burnt knight armor without any traces of it's past. My theory is that fromsoft wanted the reveal (that SoC is actually THE final boss) to be hidden in plain sight; as they used the soul of cinder armor throughout all the promotional material and gameplay demos, so they gave the armor a lothric knight crest while showing it to public before its release. So after beating the boss you get the same armor used in the demos with the lothric crest on it.

@@BlueAsterismSolstice cool theory ngl. My doubts first started appearing when I discovered the broken alter of sunlight after a bridge (dragonslayer armour) just like in ds1; and I thought what if it was built up on the undead burg throughout the multiple linking of the fire in between. Made sense considering farron keep is basically the darkroot garden in the future; izalith and ash lake being underneath and stuff like that.

@@BlueAsterismSolstice Then again lothric can also just be a neighbouring kingdom like you said where the linking of the fire is supposed to have been taken place; but when Lothric rejected to link it; all the different lands from distant times started converging upon the kingdom of Lothric including Lordran; As we also see the remnants of Lordran like the old firelink (in the demon prince arena) stumped underneath a giant hollow archtree which it was originally on top of. Fascinating stuff really

@@EyesOnTheInside Something I wonder is if the kingdom could actually be Lloyd's as he was Gwyn's uncle we never meet, nor hear further of once called "all-father" who was deeply rooted with the way of light, spread to humans. This could also probably play some part in the naming role of things we tend to see of things that we can see a slight pattern in. Londo, Lordran, Lorian, Lothric. Otherwise I'm convinced the practices of making the golem entities is more of a thing of Velka and the corvians that once followed her.

I know the questline linkage, but I wasn't too sure the details behind it. One theory I had to the relevance of it was that maybe it was a factor on finite stone pieces of the Twinkling. By that logic it would mean the closest to a real dragon someone could get for transformation would be those. Then maybe the other stones were considered yet faulty or lower grade in the same nature of Titanite to Twinkling Titanite. Thanks for pointing out the Lothric Crest on Yhorm, I never get a good enough look at his armor because we never get a version of it for us that we can tell too clearly, without a giant getting angry and trying to punch me in the face. It makes enough sense to me that he might as first of all he unlike other giants wore real armor, and he would have gone through Lothric Castle at some point in linking of the flame as they've built a throne for him. The only lord being throned I'd find questionable in the telling and portrayal would definitely be the Abyss Watchers as there's over 70 of them.

Vaati doesn't know what the angels are about and it's highly implied. I assume he misses other details.

@@BlueAsterismSolstice I should have pointed out that this was a joke, sorry 😔.

TH-cam didn't give me the notification for this or I would've responded sooner, but here's their current discord link. Sometimes I'll be looking through the chat there also. discord.gg/NN6Sxb

Otherwise here's the current in use website that I know of that can connect up to it still if that Discord link I posted times out. www.thestorm.scyllanetwork.com/index.php?route=/ Most people just go through the discord than the website, so there isn't much going on in the website, socially. They are seeing to making some bigger changes on all ends, so the sooner you get through there, the easier.

Good luck!

@@BlueAsterismSolstice thank you

Hello

I just hope to have more worth sharing for people. Lol.

@@BlueAsterismSolstice yeah :)