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Yes she is and she belongs to the Vikes

Why not the same plan as this season? Extend Sam and transition to JJ when he's ready. The only difference is that now the fanbase understands that Sam is a really good player, and so does the rest of the league - which just makes Sam all the more valuable when Kwesi trades him to an AFC team. And all those extra draft picks help Kwesi put even more good talented, cheap and cost controlled players around JJ early in his career. That's exactly what the Packers did with Rodgers and Love.

I've been a Vikings fan since 1970 , we have been trying to replace Fran since the late 70's . JJ is just a project and may never be more than that . Sam is the know commodity .

however, as with the last game against the cards Sam came darn close to throwing an INT under pressure in the 2nd quarter…Now he threaded some passes for completions which is great. I would rather he take a sack than a panicked throw in the general direction of a receiver. Yes , he does hold onto the ball a little longer than he should but what do I know…

I think that's the wrong question - it's not Sam vs JJ. It's how much will Sam cost and how much is he worth when they trade him? Saving $30m this year might get you a few one year rentals. Extending Sam means they don't have to worry whether JJ is good enough, until he is. In the meantime Sam continues to play as a top 10 QB and adds to his trade value, maybe going from 2 or 3 top 50 picks, to multiple 1st rounders and some sweeteners. First round picks that could play alongside JJ for 4 cost controlled years. It's what the Packers did when they moved on from a declining Rodgers to Love and how they have surrounded Love with a bit of extra young talent from those Rodgers trade picks. The Packers didn't have Jefferson, Addison, Hockenson, Darrisaw and Turner to start with. Extending and trading Sam at the 2025 deadline or during the 2026 draft could set JJ up with another 5 or 6 premium players (the picks for Sam plus the Vikes picks).

@ ya I just think that is a tricky situation, bc if I’m Sam, I’m not accepting an extension with the Vikings if I know they are gonna trade me. I’m just going to go to free agency and sing a long term deal with the team I want to. We’ll see how that plays out. I’d love to be able to get trade value for him, that’d be best case scenario, but I think Darnold can throw a wrench in those plans. But money wise, I’d rather have JJ and DJ Reed and G Tyler Smith, vs just Darnold, in that hypothetical situation. Bc we will have $30-$35M extra to spend

@ do u hear yourself tho…your nitpick on Sam is ONE play in an entire game, that was an “almost interception”…he has thrown 6tds and 0 ints the last three games, and has hardly any bonehead plays. He has definitely cleaned up his game. He’s playing as clean as any QB in the league as of late.

@@jaredpribyl So, just this week Sam said in his presser how much he loves being a Viking. I think we might be underestimating the value of being at a good organisation on a winning playoff team, and working with a coach that is teaching you how to be a better QB. Sam has experienced the opposite twice, and money might not be the same motivator for him as it is for Kirk. We have just seen Daniel Jones make a similar decision probably over the opportunity to start elsewhere, or even with teams regarded as better playoff chances but with inferior coaches. Kwesi can just exercise the franchise tag for about $41m and keep him anyway, but I think it's much more likely that Sam accepts a team friendly deal. It's a fair point that Sam would have more control over where he goes in FA, but at the same time he could add language to a deal with the Vikes that gives him some say in where he would be traded. I also think it's against the Vikes culture to be brutal and not have some consideration for the player. Remember it was Jaren Hall that spit the dummy with the Vikes because he didn't go back on the PS when they signed Sam, so ended up on the Seahawks PS. I think Sam has a lot to benefit from getting another off season to work with KOC and further refine his skills. I think he would at least start early next season, and if he consolidates his standing as a quality QB by keeping JJ on the bench that will only add value to his next contract and bring a whole new level of teams into the market - if they start seeing him as a legitimate top 10 QB. I understand the attraction of the FAs, but I'd argue Kwesi will still have twice as much to spend in FA this year than last season, even if he did extend Sam. He managed to sign a truckload of quality FAs then. I was keen on DJ reed until I saw he was only 5'9". We know Flores is a fan of longer guys outside - drafted Khyree 6'4", signed Nudie 6'3", and traded for Nahshon 6'4". Flores already has the short guy on the roster in Murphy, and Blackmon -so I'd think Nate Hobbs might be the more likely target, if either is available. Watch for Iowa St CB Damien Porter as a likely 1st round draft target for Kwesi. 6'4" fast and a guy that could shut down Jameson, Christian and Rome. Skol!

A lot of folks are over estimating the attraction of money and underestimating the importance of being at a good organisation on a winning team. Sam said in his presser that he loves being a Viking. KOC is the first coach to have his back and believe in him. I don't think he will just automatically pass on that to go to another shitshow for a few extra bucks. Daniel Jones just chose the Vikes for similar reasons.

Not relevant. How much is Sam worth, vs how much will he cost to keep. Kwesi is the GM, and the business decision comes first.

False. CBs McGlothern and Blackmon and Najee Thomson are signed in 2025. Signing Darnold and Jones will likely still cost less than the contracts most teams have for their QB1 alone - so that would hardly be called overinvesting. Kwesi had less salary cap space last season, about $30m, than he would likely have this season AFTER signing Sam and Jones, and he managed to add Greenard, AVG, Cashman, Jihad Ward, Aaron Jones, Griffin, Gilmore, Bullard, Cam Akers, Cam Robinson, Tillery, Risner, Feeney, Sherfield, Moreau and Grugier Hill, and others. Kwesi can easily add more talent next season and keep Sam. The point you continually miss is Sam's vale as a trade asset. That is what Kwesi is buying. The question is how many draft picks - because every premium draft pick gives Kwesi cost control over a potential starter for 4 years. Signing a $10m apy FA gives him 2 or 3 one year rentals. The extra players from the draft picks will also be aligned to JJ - growing and developing alongside him and Jets, Addison, Darrisaw, Hockenson and Turner as the likely core of the new team. Extending Sam is also a hedge against JJ not being healthy, ready or even good, and the ability to wait until he is. JJ is 21. He has plenty of time. He is a long term play - not a project to be wrecked. Also remember that when Sam is traded the Vikes will likely get the balance of his contract effectively refunded, so depending on when he is traded anywhere between 100% and 25% could feasibly be avoided. Extending Sam just gives Kwesi so many options and a potential draft pick bonanza assuming continues to improve as he has nearly every week with KOC. Letting him walk in FA gives the Vikes absolutely nothing.

@@robe2504 not starters and trusting a UDFA and a dudes coming off knee surgery to be your future starting secondary is stupid, Not one of their starting 5 in the secondary are signed through this season.. But good job digging through the roster fodder to try and ignore that point,,

​@@franknorth164 thank you for your thoughtful comment

@@franknorth164 Firstly, can we calm down and take the puerile exaggeration and crazy out of your tone? I totally agree with the situation in the CB room, which is why I have been arguing the same point suggesting that the Vikes first draft pick will be at CB, and that they could even double dip. But conflating keeping Sam with the strategy is at CB, is questionable reasoning at best. The FA pickings at CB aren't strong and likely reduce further as teams start extending their own. Throwing money at inferior players doesn't upgrade anyone. Firstly, Kwesi will have plenty of money to spend even if he signs Sam, especially if it's a 2 year deal. Secondly, I'd suggest that Kwesi will extend Murphy sooner rather than later. These guys love this organisation, locker room and coaching which is why we see so many team friendly deals. I think they'll probably bring Griffin back probably cheaper than last season, and Moreau and Nahshon are likely vet minimum signings - so that gives them a similar baseline to last season. Hopefully Kwesi will be able to nab one of the better FAs - I'd think Nate Hobbs might be a target if he's available. He would replace and upgrade Gilmore. A draft target you might want to keep an eye on is 6'4" Iowa St CB Darien Porter, who is likely a late draft riser, and late 1st round pick. Then of course if they extend Sam and trade him on or before the 2026 draft, they could add some extra talent then. Skol!

@@robe2504 You want me to "take the crazy out" while claiming a UDFA and two guys coming off surgery are your plans for the 2025 CB room.. lol Move on, There are no starters in the CB room under contract next year and you replied with stupidity... MY OP stands..

Darnold was not 19 when he was drafted 😂 Wtf are you talking about

@@user-gc3qj7md8c I agree. He was 21 like JJM is now.

So far, so very good.

@@darrencampbell7918 Amen to that, bro! I like that adverb you added to your declaration.

Giants wanted Jones to sit at home and collect a check, he didnt want that he wanted to be in the building helping his teammates out anyway he could. Daboll and schoen didnt want that. So Brady not knowing the story decided to comment on it and take a shot Jones who turned down Bradys team (raiders). As for Brady, the Giants will always live rent free in his head specially Eli Manning

No. Not from what I saw Sunday against Arizona.