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Cucumber Shop
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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2011
An avid hobby gardener and seed supplier focuses on specialty melon cucumber varieties including the southern Italian Carosello. The mission of Cucumber Shop is to discover, gather, preserve and distribute as many Carosello and other unique cucumber-melon varieties as possible.
When to harvest the Tondo di Manduria, based on flavor and texture
While I previously recommended to pick the Carosello Tondo di Manduria around 4 inches in diameter, a tasting of various sizes helps me to recognize that it is best picked at a diameter of around 3" or less. And how does it taste? Like a crisp, yet tender cucumber, with a bit of a melon aftertaste. Quite delicious! Also of note is one little Tondo di Barese Carosello cucumber.
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Harvesting the Tondo di Manduria for Seed
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One last video of the Tondo Manduria in the fertile garden, as a large percentage of the fruit begins to ripen for seed.
Using a hand vacuum for Cucumber Beetles.
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I empathize with those of you who are suffering terribly with an infestation of cucumber beetles. While this specific hand vacuum cleaner that I purchased off Amazon can suck up about a hundred or so beetles before the battery runs out, I am neither for or against it. There are likely better models of hand vacuums for this purpose. But this one works well enough for me. After vacuuming up the b...
Timun Krai
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Taking a look at my Timun Krai plants. The Timun Krai is a Cucumis melo variety conomon from Indonesia. It is consumed immature as a cucumber or used in cooking (also in its immature state).
Cucumber Beetles and Tondo di Manduria
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Despite all of the challenges associated with growing caroselli in an area that is packed with cucumber beetles, the Carosello Tondo Manduria have performed very well in the organic olive orchard in Suisun Valley, California. In the midst of discussing some ways I have been working to combat the beetles, I happen to mention what I am looking for in the fruit. Throughout the video, can you count...
Cretan Cucumber-melon keeps going!
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While I normally hope to keep growing plants that just don’t perform well in a plot where I messed something up, this Greek Cucumber-melon variety from Crete has continued growing and producing much longer than I had anticipated. Despite netting the vines to keep from cross-pollinating with my Timun Krai, the vines continue to press up against the netting and continue to set fruit that I hand-p...
Tondo di Barese
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A very kind friend of mine from the Solano Community College Agricultural club called me up out of the blue and offered me a small row in his front yard to grow a cucumber variety. The only problem is that he also grows melons. After thinking about it for a little while, I called him back with a solution: the fast-growing Tondo di Barese. The Tondo Barese is a very early variety that produces l...
Martina Franca, Second look
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Here is the second look at the Martina Franca. I went out of town for a little while and came back to see that they had grown quite a bit! I love the flavor and texture of these. If I wanted to grow a Tondo Manduria, but wanted more consistency, I would definitely grow the Martina Franca.
Ayra with description
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Trying out growing the Ayra cucumber in a little grape bin. But cucumber beetles along with some kind of disease threatens the small plot. Additionally, the color of the fruit is different from those I harvested previously. What's up with that?
First look at the 2024 Timun Krai
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This is the second year of growing the Timun Krai. I'm always learning and this year I believe that I am experiencing a little disease pressure due to some un-composted bunny poo. This is just the beginning of the season and I hope to see a lot more fruit as the season progresses.
Carosello Tondo di Manduria
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One last look at the Tondo di Manduria (Mandurian Round) in its prime picking stage.
The Carosello Tondo di Manduria - Extended Edition
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A favorite of many, here is the Carosello Tondo di Manduria (Mandurian Round) in all its glory. This video is a little longer because I explain some details about the variety including its polymorphic behavior and show characteristics that are more and less desirable. I hope that this provides some insightful information for both the new gardener and the avid cucumber grower.
Scopatizzo di San Luigi
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This is the third year that I am growing the Scopattizo di San Luigi. I am hoping that, unlike my previous attempts to grow this variety, that I will be able to harvest seed that is much more viable than the seeds that I harvested previously. This is a favorite of some of those who grow it, and it would be very nice if I were fortunate enough to harvest a decent amount of seed.
Martina Franca
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Never before grown outside of Italy, the Martina Franca cucumber-melon is being grown in a raised garden. Though I did not mean to be growing this one so early in the season, the closure of one of my plots and the failure of a crop in another plot enabled me to plant this cucumber-melon variety in May. The fruit is rather tasty and makes a very good complimentary variety to the Tondo Manduria. ...
Cretian cucumber-melons
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Another grower shared this Crecian cucumber-melon variety with me several years ago and I finally got around to growing it. As Greece is very near Italy, it is very likely that this Cucumis melo var. chate cultivar, which looks very much like the Mezzo Lungo Polignano, has the same ancestory as other carosello cucumber-melons. I am growing some fruit in both my greenhouse and the "girl's garden...
Talking Tondo di Manduria in the Fertile Garden
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Talking Tondo di Manduria in the Fertile Garden
Cucumber Beetles on Tondo di Manduria in Suisun Valley
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Cucumber Beetles on Tondo di Manduria in Suisun Valley
The Good and Bad of the English Telegraph Cucumber
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The Good and Bad of the English Telegraph Cucumber
Cucumber Beetle damage on Suisun Valley caroselli
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Cucumber Beetle damage on Suisun Valley caroselli
Comparing a couple Cucumber-melons from Greece
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Comparing a couple Cucumber-melons from Greece
Pillbugs, Plant Collars and Pitfall traps
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Pillbugs, Plant Collars and Pitfall traps
The English Telegraph, Deformed Petals and The Greenhouse.
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The English Telegraph, Deformed Petals and The Greenhouse.
Carosello Tondo di Manduria planted in Green Valley, Fairfield, California
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Carosello Tondo di Manduria planted in Green Valley, Fairfield, California
Planting a row of Carosello Tondo di Manduria soil blocks
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Planting a row of Carosello Tondo di Manduria soil blocks
Experimenting with Cucumber Radical Orientation in the Greenhouse
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Experimenting with Cucumber Radical Orientation in the Greenhouse
In Pursuit of the Long English Telegraph Cucumber, part 1
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In Pursuit of the Long English Telegraph Cucumber, part 1
Starting 100 Carosello Tondo Manduria in Soil Blocks
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Starting 100 Carosello Tondo Manduria in Soil Blocks
I guess the leaves are not poisonous
The fruit is not poisonous. I have no idea about the leaves. I do know that the diuretic effects can be very severe with dogs and small children, so it is worth eating the dark fruit with caution.
I just took some seeds tonight from a cucumber of this variety that is still green and I got quite a bit of them! I just wipe them off on a paper towel and the gell easily comes off.
How heavy and hard are the seeds once they are dry?
@@CucumberShop They don't seem to be very heavy. Cucumber seeds always seem kind of thin anyway. I put them under my grow light after drying on the paper towel in the kitchen for a day or so and they get good and dry.
@@IAMGiftbearer I only ask because if they do not have enough substance to them, they will not germinate successfully.
How to price
For selling at a farmer's market?
What does the Tondo di Mandurian taste like? Your description was kind of vague. Is it sweet more like a melon or savory more like a cucumber? I want to see if I would like it so I can decide whether to grow it next time I have space. right now I'm growing China Jade, and several types of melons such as Canary Melon, Early Girl and 2 other types of watermelon, Charentais Melon, and Honeydew.
It tastes like a cucumber, but bitter-free and gentle on the digestion. Pretty juicy too. I picked one the other day and would like to do a video on the flavor as soon as my numbness wears off from some recent dental work.
HUNDREDS on your plants?! Oh my! 😮 This is my first year successfully growing multiple cucumber seedlings and I'm bracing myself and trying to prepare for any pests that may show up.
❤❤❤. Can’t wait to try it!
I've never seen these before! What do they taste like?
Like cucumbers, but bitter-free, easy on the digestion and with a crisp yet tender texture.
Great cucumber. Got a plant from a friend and it gives plenty of cucumbers. Good taste, both as fresh and for pickling. If you forget to pick them in time just peel off the skin (it gets hard when it turns into yellow) and you can still eat the cucumber flesh fresh or use it for pickling. I will grow it next year too.
I've noticed this variety doesn't attract cucumber beetles nearly as much as the other varieties. This can be important where I am. They're super prickly though!
Mine is getting cucumber beetles. I am getting ready to spray with neem oil.
@@IAMGiftbearer ah shoot 😔 I have cantelope growing with these and the beetles LOVE the melons. Mayne they just habe something close by they lobe more. They don't bother with my China Jade
This year is my first year growing the Monika cucumber. It is so bitter. I’ve never grown a bitter cucumber before. My slicing cucumbers in the same row, grown under the same exact conditions, are not bitter at all.
I'm very sorry to hear that. Where are you growing it, what are your growing conditions and what company did you purchase it from?
@@CucumberShop I got them from Baker Creek. They are in a raised bed. The next plant over is a slicing cucumber that isn’t bitter at all. We’ve tried 3 Monika’s so far. Do you know if pickling them will cover the bitterness?
@@anonanon1982 Possibly. So, bitterness in Cucumis sativus cucumbers is partially due to genetics of each variety and partially due to plant stress. Plants grown in containers are much more prone to stress than those grown in-ground. Excessive heat is likely a factor, especially if the plant is anywhere near the side of the container. You could pickle them. I would peel the skin off and slice them up, then soak them in a saltwater brine. In the future, you can completely avoid bitterness by growing melons that are picked immature as cucumbers, like snake melons and carosello cucumbers.
@@CucumberShop Thanks for these tips. I have 4 plants of Monika. So far we have only tasted the fruit of one so hopefully we just got a random bad seed. The reviews on Baker Creek are good for this variety.
@@anonanon1982 I've grown it before myself, but last year was quite mild and I grew it indoors.
That's brilliant! Thanks
Why are mine stubby and light colored?
There are a number of companies that sell this variety. It is very likely that the seed you purchased your cucumbers from is mearly purchasing seed in bulk and reselling it. What company did you purchase your seed from?
@@CucumberShop I bought a seedling from Bomgaars.
Too much work! I'll just buy cucumbers at walmart.
@@FREEFILMSALEX I hope that you enjoy the flavor, texture and quality of those Walmart cucumbers then.
Thanks. Id never had this issue before. Thought it was just snails but i took cre of those and it still happened. I put a gallon jug bottom cut out snd that stopped them until i removed one jug, leaving the other in place. I plan to do this…. Thanks again
Appena raccolto carosello barese, grazie per la tua passione per i magici prodotti pugliesi, sei uno di noi❤❤❤ . Saluti da Polignano- Bari
Grazie per le tue parole molto gentili Adoro il carosello e i miei amici italiani. Spero di poter visitare il prossimo anno o due.
@@CucumberShopSperiamo tu possa venire a trovarci prestissimo, un abbraccio
They are looking really good! Don't forget to let me know when the seeds are ready. All of my cucumber plants got fried in our south Florida summer sun.
I'm so sorry to hear that they died. Were you growing any cucumber-melon varieties? I'll let you know when the seeds are ready. I have another variety, the Ayra, that is the most heat loving of them all.
@@CucumberShop I don't think I was. I had gherkin, burpless, and yellow lemon. The heat and humidity is just that bad. My meriggolds got fried too. But its all good because I'm learning as I go. Can the Ayra handle humidity too?
I don't think it was bred for that. It comes from the desert area of Rajasthan, India.
@@CucumberShop Ah. Ya the Ayra wont make it here. But I am excited to try the tumin Krai!
My first Barese has set a fruit. It's a furry one. I don't know when to pick it but I'm very happy. I don't know how to eat it either. Do I peal the skin off like a carrot? Anyway your plants are lovely. Could you do a video on how to save seeds if you haven't already? Do you have to let them ripen?
What type of Barese? Where did you get the seeds? If it is cylindrical, pick when the fruit is about 1.5-2" in diameter. If it is round, pick when about 3-4" in diameter. This is a general guide.
@@CucumberShop I got them from Totally Tomatoes. It's the only Barese they carry so you can look it up. They only have one photo. I saw those last year and knew nothing about them. Just liked that they were ribbed and a light green color so I added them to my cart. I didn't even know they were a bush type so I put them on a trellis they have not gone up yet like my luffa has.
Yeah. So, it sounds like it may be a Mezzo Lungo di Barese, but knowing Totally Tomatoes, they probably have no idea what the plant looks like, as they are just a reseller. You are welcome to send me a picture, if you would like any further information. You can find my email at CucumberShop.com
@@CucumberShop Ok thanks. I'll probably do that later on. I appreciate the help.
Easy read for those who can read.
Have you tasted them yet?
I can't remember if I did or not, but if they taste like the Mezzo Lungo di Polignano, then they'll be pretty good.
All my flowers have opened up, but none of them have the ovary part of the flower, they all appear to be male, despite being advertised as parthenocarpic. Not sure what I'm doing wrong honestly.
What company did you purchase them from? Parthenocarpic means that the female flowers will set even without pollination. Gynoecious cucumber plants produce only female flowers. English Telegraph cucumbers are only parthenocarpic, meaning that they will produce male flowers. The True Leaf English Telegraph are not English Telegraph, but some other substitute variety.
@@CucumberShop I got them from Botanical Interests online. They've proved reliable in the past. It definitely could be a failure to properly care for them though, this is my first time trying out cucumbers, I've only ever done tomatoes, peppers, and basil so far. Thanks for the hasty reply by the way!
Your garden looks very nice.
Middleeastern cucumbers not israeli
Is this a bush variety? I got seeds from Totally Tomatoes last year. Planted this year and have one growing near a trellis. But it hasn't climbed and wondered if it stays small like a zucchini.
Okay. Let me first preface your question with the fact that most seed companies that sell the Carosello Barese have no idea what they are selling. Ask Italians what the Carosello Barese is and they may be a bit confused. Different seed companies sell it as anything from round to cylindrical, bushy to vining, and nearly hairless to extremely hairy. The best way to consider it is that it grows like a zucchini, but with multiple vines. Based on your question, you should be able to harvest your first crop of 1.5-2 inch wide (pick by diameter and not by length) fruit in the crown of the plant. After the first harvest, you should expect the plant to begin vining. You can then trellis. Trust me when I say that 99%+ of companies that sell any kind of carosello seed are reselling seed of something they know nothing about. Best Wishes! -Jay from Cucumber Shop
@@CucumberShop Thanks for the info. Mine already has male flowers at the base. I had planted it directly in the ground near my trellis that has luffas and gourds. I did not know it would mostly be a bush.
😃🎉 Excellent I subscribed to your channel 🙏
Thanks!
@@CucumberShop you're welcome 😁
Saluti da Polignano ❤❤❤
Really great ideas, thank you very much!
And thank you for the comment! 🙂
@@CucumberShopToo much work! I'll just buy ready-to-eat cucumbers at Walmart. No maintenance necessary.
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Hi Jay. I need your help please. I live in south Florida and I would love to have one good cucumber plant that can handle temperatures up to 100 degrees, disease-resistant, and pest resistant. I’m having a hard time finding anything. What would you recommend????
The optimal variety that would best meet those requirements is an Indonesian variety called "Timun Krai". It has the added benefit of doing well in humidity. I'm currently growing that cultivar out to seed, and should have it available by the day after Thanksgiving. Another good possibility is a variety that would mature and produce fruit quickly, such as the heat-loving Carosello Leccese Bianco (AKA Light Carosello Leccese). While no variety that I know of is bulletproof against pickleworms, the Timun Krai may have some resistance to this pest as well.
@@CucumberShop Thank you so much! Please let me know when your seeds are ready for purchase. How much will they be?
@@allfruit Thank you for asking. I'm not sure. Not overly expensive, but I do spend hundreds of dollars on high quality soil each year, so I do need to charge money so that I can keep growing cucumbers. Until then the light Leccese is definitely worth trying out. They are bitter-free and easy on the digestion.
Whats the bad?
The English Telegraph cucumber is a variety that, even though is marketed by one US company, is not actually commercially available in the United States or England. Because of this, if I am unable to harvest seed in this trial, I will lose at least one of the populations that I am currently growing. One of the varieties that I'm trialing is from a company that is no longer in business. This is a variety that was very popular with gardeners because they are able to produce high quality fruit without concern for pollination.
When do you harvest these?
When they are about 1-1.5 inches in diameter. Unlike the Light Armenian cucumber, which is often picked between 1.5-2.5 inches in diameter, Indians tend to enjoy the Tar Kakdi quite thin. Having tasted this variety when younger, I understand why.
Thank you so much for the information!
Oh man that sucks. Will they bounce back? Thanks for the wide shot. I like seeing the big picture. Neat mountains.
Some might. We'll see. The really chewed up ones will probably slowly die. 😕
It's neat to see your greenhouse opened up. I hope the cucumbers will make it to seed soon.
First year growing these, thanks for the insight.
Israeli not Lebanese
Yes, I misspoke in this video. I understand that the person who developed this variety was Israeli. However, if you were to ask most Americans what kind of cucumber this was they would say that it was Lebanese or snack cucumber, because it is marketed as such. The majority of my viewers are from the United States. I have developed several varieties of cucumber myself, through selection. However, I do not take credit for where are the seeds came from nor do I say that these varieties that I named are mine. If you would like, you are welcome to lobby Washington DC to change how the industry markets the Beit Alpha cucumber and have the label on packaging state that it was developed in Israel.
Also, do you worry about root disturbance when separating soil blocked cucumber seedlings? I constantly hear about cucurbit root sensitivity and I'm worried about stunting transplants during the planting out process.
Producing soil blocks can be difficult enough to do even with a pre-made mix. I would not encourage anyone to start soil blocking unless they had a lot of time to learn or money to just purchase a pre-made mix. If the grower can figure out that they have a good healthy mix and knows how to block the soil well, the rest should follow. As seedlings grow in the soil blocks, their roots expand to take up the entire soil block. The ideal time to transplant is when the Roots come to the end of the block and have not yet attempted to cross over into their neighboring blocks. The larger the roots of the transplant, the better the block is held together and the less chance it will fall apart when being transplanted out into the garden. Using soil blocks is not a 100% method for success. Sometimes in the process of transplanting they fall apart because of the materials used, moisture level, or user error. Sometimes even soil blocks will experience a slight amount of root shock after being transplanted. Overall, the work and time required for soil blocking is more than compensated by being able to start plants earlier or have transplants ready to plant the moment after another crop is removed from a plot.
@@CucumberShop Thanks for sharing your insights and all of these details. I thought soil blocking might be a solution to some of my seed starting challenges but I think I may have to find other solutions for now. I appreciate your generosity with your expertise. 🙏🏾
@@ofrecentvintage I believe that it is the very best solution for starting transplants early, but it does require time and effort to learn. Though expensive, the larger Swiftblockers greatly reduce the time and effort required to make soil blocks easy and quickly.
Given your experience and level of cucumber expertise, do you mind sharing whether you recommend growing more than one cucumber plant in a container? If so, can you recommend what size pot? Thank you 🥒
Thanks for the question of containers and planting multiple plants per pot. Containers are a difficult subject. I would not plant multiple plants per container unless the container was at least 10 gallons or more. I only grow in smaller containers when I'm testing something out or growing in my greenhouse. Otherwise, my smallest plot is a 1 cubic yard grape harvest bin. This is because cucumbers, though they don't strip fertility from the soil as extensively as tomato vines, do require a lot of soil. Additionally, the roots of most vegetables are sensitive to the sides of the pot being cooked by the sun in our above 90 degree Fahrenheit days. With all this, if I was serious about growing cucumbers, I would want a container as big as possible. If not, at least sheltering the sides of the pot from direct sun (while still providing full sun to the actual plant) is preferable.
@@CucumberShop Thank you for such a thorough answer. I appreciate it. Going to have to jot these points in my garden journal. One plant it is!
I grew these last year and we loved them 😋 --- I went to order more seeds this year and they're not available ---- 🤬
I'm very sorry. If you ordered from me, I still have plenty of that seed available. However, it is not the right type. If you would like some of last year's English Telegraph, please send me an email through the email listed at Cucumber Shop and we'll figure something out. Here's the video that explains why I chose to pull last year's English Telegraph: th-cam.com/video/wkddJ09YbBM/w-d-xo.html
Those look nice. I really like the shape of the second one. I do like the ridges. They just don't look like the two normal cucumbers you see in stores. The slicing ones and the pickle ones.
That's very interesting. Yeah best not to keep those seeds and just remove the plants so they don't accidentally cross pollinate and pass on bad genes. My gourds are doing well so far. Hopefully all will be ok this year. I liked those cute little ones from Cyprus.
Hi Jay you definitely don't remember me, I'm Iaia from the Amici dell'orto due. I talked about your cucumbers, and my friend Fernando, who currently lives in Arizona, expressed a desire to come and visit you.👋
Hi there Iaia! Wow. I don't hear too much about Amici dell'orto except what Angelo posts. That's very nice of him you want to visit. I used to live in Tucson but now I live in Fairfield, California. I don't have a lot of room, but I suppose he could come visit. I do sell seeds in person and could show him around.
Hello Jay, quick question, can this type of cucumber be grown vertically? I planted this variety 10 minutes ago.
Yes. It definitely can, though your first crop of fruit will likely cluster in the crown of the vine.
Hi how big are these cant tell if they mini cucumbers or large ones.
You can pick them bigger, but they are better when young.
Wow neat. Ah, my question is answered in the other comment. I thought the cups were for easy watering but now I see they are a bug barrier.
Wow what lovely land. Oh I wish I had a place like that to plant a bunch of veggies. What kind of cucumber would you recommend for me in central FL zone 9b that's hot and humid 10 months out of the year? My family likes straight slicing cucumbers. But I also like weird ones just for ornamental.
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Thank you for subscribing. I hope you'll discover some cucumber varieties that you've never heard of before. 🙂
What are the pieces of cups for?
They are the lower half of a deli cup with the bottom cut out. Their purpose is as plant collars to create a physical barrier between the seedlings and insects, slugs etc.
Thanks for the video. Are those little ones good to eat or pickle already?
Sure. You can eat them immature if you like until they are too big or old.
I was waiting to find out the taste and the guy says "quite nice" .... brrrr