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I agree that premium feels stale. However as a link joker player, I feel like I can enjoy the format a little bit more than some because there are a wider variety of decks and builds that I can use and still be relevant. However, any other clan with a crest feels like that's the only relevant deck. Like Shiranui and Jet.

I really wish they would have kept V around and supported it more after D released. It could have been a really good alternative format. The biggest problem is it got stale because there was no support. Magic does really well at supporting all of their formats fairly equally over time and bushiroad could do the same if they truly cared to.

Being really honest, the start decks with only vanillas already feels shit. Standard also fails on the "deck building expression" because 95% of the cards are SPECIFIC to one of the 24558654929287447744848494848585 ridelines. So, your dark states bulk isn't a CB1 = SC1, but instead: CB1 - If you control <<A>> or if you made an extremely specific action that only the boss can do, SC1.

Ive stopped playing Premium for a few months and its both amusing and dissapointing that im checking in to see that the format has basically not changed a bit. Especially considering there is alot of things the Boshiroad could do to spice up the format but they simply arent. They could: Bring back Clan Collection Make another History Collection Make more Limit Break retrains Finish their cycle of G strider crests BRING ENERGY GENERATORS TO PREMIUM

Ban OT crit

Im old VG player who already quit since season 3, just came back few months ago thx to dear days. Mainly playing on dear days. I think the game is pretty fun but price of decks these days and OT existence kinda dealbreaker for me to play the physical card game of VG. OT sux everyone agree but price is pretty high compared to when i play back then. Raging form back then was top meta deck and maybe slightly under $200 here i remember. Now the price is pretty insane thx to powerful staple promos.

Digimon completely took over for me this year honestly. Been having way more fun with it. Standard I just completely fell off. I built Varga and updated Messiah but have played maybe 10 games since DZ started. I basically sold out of everything valuable I had for standard. A bunch of the cards I ordered for moderate prices previously have skyrocketed so that was nice. Recently played a handful of premium matches for the first time in like a year, which were hard decided by OT. Was having fun until those were flipped. Looking forward to playing more premium tho since my group and I decided to forego OTs. Ordered those G guard promos, but maaaan premium needs more cards. One of my buddies still pretty much exclusively wants to play V. Poor guy. I'm just going to pick up DD2 and scratch my standard itch there. I don't really care about the cost of it, since I'd be spending more on a set of standard staples anyway.

also persona rid is fuckign crazy op you draw and card and get 30k power in multi atatck decks even more thats just so luck based casue when yo udraw a persoan ride your opponents has to guard like for sosososososo much more and you dont have to invest anything just get a lucky draw would have been enought to give maybe the vg 10 k and draw with persona ride

also most D games feel a little boring the first 5 turns caue you know wich unit yo uride and what you do that was more fun in normal vg where you woudl mix and match godo ride targets and rear guard targets sure hrade stuck was ass so better ride deck than non but i would hoped it owuld gave more like generic cards where you would made your own style come out more or help you to perform different stratagiers better . also the cycle cards are way to op and need way more reprints some cards are impssible to find and that sucks also that most deck gets like 0 support for month and than a promo thats like 50 g each . what bushi wanted to do with the nation stuff didnt helped at all sure you can use all keter cards in bastion but if you look at the bastion decks you have 90 % cards in it that are bastion rear gaurds and grade 4 bastion and zero keter units.

over triggers are fuckign trash thats a fakt

Besides the smaller card pool in Standard, a lot of the cards are name reliant. It’ll say “if you have a vanguard with *insert name here*”. It really limits possible synergies, Premium doesn’t have that same issue. The only issue with Premium is Gredora. You know why. I feel as though the biggest issue is the OT. 100 million power makes attacks practically unblockable without a form of PG. it becomes a game of sack or get sacked. You can be a great player playing your deck to the best of your ability, and then your opponent will hit OT and that ends the game. If they were to minimize the power of the OT to maybe 50k or something, that would make it a more fair concept.

I'm a relatively new player (started in August), so I don't know if I'm really the target audience, but here's my cents of opinion. I personally really like Vanguard and the standard format. it instantly took the spot for my favorite TCG, surpassing YuGiOh, which I have played for years, Pokémon and Digimon. I don't really mind OTs, and quite like them to be honest. for the other formats, the only interactions I had with them were a few clips from the animes that popped on yt and some decklists I saw on VG Paradox. it's not that it doesn't attract me, it's just the lack of ways to play them that push me away. personally, I would love to play, but that and the almost non-existent Vanguard playerbase in my country is a problem. I have only played via VangPro and Dear Days. while I can see how weird and overwhelming it may be for new players to start with the first, I didn't really mind, because the game is just that fun. and, while Dear Days is expensive (especially if your country's currency is not in its best state) and there's the DLCs situation, it was a very nice experience and I'll keep playing until DD2 comes out, which I will definetly buy at some point. I for one much prefer to have to buy the new sets, but being sure I'll get the cards I want, than to have to play gacha and count on my non-existent luck. and... that's about it. I've only played what seems to be a small part of Vanguard, but I have absolutely loved it and I'm trying to get some friends into it as well (with some degree of success). I would very much be willing to try other formats. maybe, if Bushiroad noticed players that are willing to try new formats would there be a better way to play them exist, some of the problems with the other formats might get better. or so I hope, because the last thing I want is for this game to die.

Long ago, even before Legion, I resigned vanguard to be a game better played casually over competitive. Not because of triggers but because of how Bushiroad designed clans. Some just would never get the same attention. Even with nations as a focus it still feels that if your deck isn't a stride set or had enough focus in the anime it won't get the same attention.

2:56 there is creative expression Via the usage of the dz trail decks Even tho its ass you can put em in any build you want or a dedicated build and it will operate I think people just dont wanna try cause they fear losing rather then trying to create something unique to them

I wish I could have been in this video. My personal experience after re-entering the game is that the disdain for the other formats has alienated players from one another. I find it sad as I love premium and it is the most fun I have had in years with any card game. But due to the years that I was not around and yet knowing that premium was demonized by their same community is just disappointing.

I tried Vanguard, and it didn't catch on to me. I really tried liking the game. The foundation of the game was quite solid, what ruined it was the direction it took. Clans and Nations unable to mix shouldn't have been a huge problem if they didn't released to many of them. And the Deck Trigger system, the thing that made Vanguard really stood out, was also the game's biggest downfall. It ramped up the game's luck based elements, a huge detriment when by the nature of being a TCG, a factor that was already high enough to begin with, and Vanguard decided that they would ramp that up to eleven. They also seeming Rushed their powercreep too much, just to catch up to their peers and competition. I experienced some deck going irelevant like, in just short of a year.

I have a few problems with current vanguard over the past year with the introduction of DZ and even overdress as a whole: 1. Every time i want to play at my locals, i just never have the urge to due to the decks i play are just outdated and all the players at my locals play new stuff from DZ so i just feel like im not going to have any fun compared to premium or even back in the g and v era. DZ just hasnt made that many interesting decks to play that isnt a g deck. The divine skill mechanic is cool but man it just locks you into only use it in that specific deck. One thing i loved about the break ride through g era was that you could take the new mechanic and use old units with them. Thing Saver is one of my favorite cards and the fact you could play it with MLB was so cool. Even with strides. Yes we had some strides that were locked behind certain decks but a lot of strides were generic so decks that didnt get new support could use say use the blademaster stride. It was exciting to look foward to every new g set. DZ sadly doesnt have that excitement for me. Im more hype for the old decks then i am the new ones. 2. Ever since Overdress season 1, we have gotten only 13 episodes a season for the anime. Which may not seem that bad but for vanguard that really makes the anime stale. Since majority of the episodes is dedicated to the characters playing the same decks with some new support all the time, it makes game feel boring. In the og anime and g era, everyone always tried out different decks. Shion for example had altmile which was a deck that felt like it evolved by GZ. I dont really see that with Overdress or DZ due to the low episode count as it makes the character evolution feel rushed and doesnt make you feel like the characters decks are growing. It was one of the reasons i was excited for DZ set 6 as it was going to have g support only to be let down when only messiah and jet each got 2 new cards plus all their deck set cards getting reprinted. The rest of the set has some support for Maelstrom and Vermillion but the rest is for left over decks from willdress. It was a set i was so hyped for but made me now not want to look foward to future sets as i am probably going to be disapointed again. 3. This was kind of a problem in V but slowly went down overtime but it is definitely a problem in D and that is English prices. Ever since covid happened i feel vanguard booster boxes along with a few other tcgs have gone from $40 a booster box to $80+. It makes buying boxes not much of a priority for me and other players and just want to buy singles. I think due to this box price increase, english cards have gone of in value but the reason why this doesnt make sense compared to another expensive game like yugioh is that unlike yugioh, vanguard has the same rarities between every card like japan. The only time this wasnt the case was bt16 and bt17 in legion. Due to english card prices being expensive, I have not picked up any deck that was in the DZ sets. I mainly just a few support cards for my old decks. Even the g deck sets are expensive compared to the japanese side we people selling them for $70+ on the aftermarket. I was lucky that both my friends were able to sell both the luard and shiranui deck sets to me for $55. Still havent picked up chronojet and messiah due to those decks also being expensive as well. 4. And final point isnt really on the game itself i guess but rather my locals not really caring about vanguard that much. we get at most 6-10 players a week for standard and we play 3 rounds and then we do free fights afterwards. Not that exciting really. Most of the time we are finished with tourney in less than 2 hours. Was also doesnt help is most of the players just go home once the tourney is over. Not even vanguard day is exciting to play since its for standard and not premium or even g format. My locals just stinks with them never having foil singles for sale and having to support other games like one piece, magic, and grandarchive. I would list yugioh but my locals barely supports that game. In conclusion of my long essay, I just sadly dont have the same excitement for the game or the anime as i was back in g and v format.

I find it interesting that Vanguard players call Premium stale. MTG players used to love the fact that their Modern format (an older, eternal format) didn’t change often. They LOVED the fact that you could buy a deck in Modern and it’ll be relevant for years to come and you only have to make minimal changes. Modern might get one or two cards from the most recent Standard set that are relevant in the format, but otherwise it stays the same. That’s like, exactly what Premium is right now. Interesting that Vanguard players call it stale and yet MTG players love it.

God, he's so handsome!! Vanguard kinda poopy, OP and pokemon are lit. I hate crests and energy more than I dislike the OT. And I'm happy people are coming to grips with vanguard not being a competitive game, but a, usually, very fun casual game. I'm also really starting to dislike orders. I'm not big on premium (I don't really like eternal formats because I personally don't like weird interactions with old cards and new cards), but I did play some V recently, and V ripped. Then we swapped to standard, and it was miserable. Will was playing messiah encounter cards(encounter cards suck, not a fan), and miss playing left and right, but as long as he could stride at least 2 times, he just out valued me. It was not a fun experience. But OP is fantastic, 9/10 game.

I think the problem is premium players really just wanted to bash v but are finally starting to notice that v was actually powerful enough and has synergy to impact the format.

I'm enjoying Standard VG, and I have several different decks for various nations...but unfortunately I took the biggest liking to Keter Sanctuary, which has the highest amount of really good generic staples, and thus incurs the "Keter Tax", which required me to shell out like a month's Rent on it, and I just shift it between decks when necessary lol. Even a deck that doesn't stand much of a chance in the Meta - Liael=Amorta, would cost an arm and a leg to build if you were trying to give it the best chance of winning. Seems like Stoicheia is the lowest barrier to entry for the game though. Some of its best decks are a good deal cheaper to build than some of the worst decks in other nations.

I’ve said this amongst my group of friends so I’ll share my thoughts here as well Where busiroad is shoving stride decks and stride support into standard along side little to no support to other formats it feels like they are both desensitizing standard players to stride while making premium players feel more at home to standard to eventually axe the other formats and go back to a one format game and make room for other IPs durning large events and I feel in the next couple of years we will see an influx of stride support and since the off season sets will most likely not support cray cross epic support it makes more room for stride support like the most recent set has done

I’m not sure I agree with the deckbuilding being linear in Standard. I think if you compare it to Premium, you’re obviously gonna feel that, but if you look at Standard in a vacuum, I’m not sure I agree. I play mostly Keter. I’ve enjoyed the fact that decks like Rezael, Alden, Luard, and the like all have multiple builds that seem solid. People might hear me saying this and think I’m crazy, but I think people are also under exploring. This probably comes from the delayed release from JP, but I find that the EN players that are complaining about deckbuilding being linear aren’t actually deckbuilding very much, they’re just taking JP decklists and playing them.

I love the Dear Days game, but I do hate how the DLC costs so much, it's just additional card pool and nothing else. If it also included extra story content I'd be a little more ok with it but still not by much.

They've made Standard unplayable and nonbeginner friendly by making all decks, even the rogue decks, cost above $200 each. They really need to copy Pokemon's homework and make these chase cards more accessible.

standard is the only reason i play vanguard i avoided it at all costs prior to D so to me it sounds like a small fraction of the community bitching.

I hear you mention the card pull when it comes to linear deck building but I don’t think it’s just that. I think it’s also bushi making the cards so specific and precise to one unit that there’s no space to move those cards around to anything else. Just like the beginning of standard has good cards that were way too specific to vanguard name. But now that they all have new forms and different names, the cards eh at were support specifically for them were “too” specific and can’t even be used with future forms. I think if they take away every single card having to have a name vanguard then it would widen the spread a little. Also ot need to be debuffed to 20k power gain

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i no longer play vanguard due to too many mistakes on bushiroads part/ failer to see them as such. i still have desire to play just not in the current state of the game. premium from what i hear is stale and ive been saying for years even while playing we ne a rotating ban list to shake up mettas to avoid the state of same metta for 2-3 years cough* V cough* and to a lesser extent premium. its lame that energy is not premium leagal when premium is supossed to be the do all format. hate OT as it was the point i realized bushi dosnt give a f*** about us more competitive players but wasnt the final straw. altho the final starw was finding a game with a simmalar feel thats accually cares about competitve players in flesh and blood. also i agree 10k triggers were the start of the down fall

I played the original game, from when it first started. Haven't played since then.

Yeah for me, I love the game and it's my main TCG. Got into it through standard. I like the power level between decks. You have way more options to play in this game than in other games imo. Plenty of variety, all nations consistently getting stuff, and most old decks getting quick updates/support minimum, so if you tether towards an aesthetic a lot, you just benefit because nations just get their due support. The game is pretty fun casually. This is the only game I've ever felt pretty comfortable swapping between like 15 decks for locals each week. I dislike the OT, and if they're not removing it, I definitely feel it can be at least be reworked/rule changed to operate in a way where players have control or ways to deal with it. Game needs more reprints for staples, especially dual nation cards and cyclers that are essential a lot of the time. It also needs more good start product like the new Stardust Blade deck. More side events at events would be nice. I think they can stand to flex the casual side of the game more and give players more things to do when they scrub out, because I also agree this isn't the ideal game to play competitively.

God I've missed your videos so much. Also what do you mean Vanguard critical, you're like 7 feet.

Honestly so far I hope 2015-2016 cards got reprint.

Tbh baning gastile stride really stagnant dark irregulars deck building.

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IMO 4 main sets for Standard and 2 reprint set should be the yearly "goal"

17:45 I just think there are not enough defensive mechanics to counteract these triggers in standard. Yes, I get that triggers have a defensive value of 15k but will that matter on a Persona turn and your opponents have units that can restand. Almost all decks now have a restand allowing up 4-7 attacks or a call ability after an attack. If only blitz orders weren’t once per turn, I can see them being ran more of like 3x rather than just a 1 of. However, as much as there negatives about the game, I still find it enjoyable unless my opponent checks an OT, in which case I hate the game.

2:01 BUDDYFIGHT MENTIONED!

When are premium players gonna admit that v support was their life support.

18:10 Wow...I didn't think I would find something that so perfectly encapsulates how I feel about Standard gameplay wise. I've had so many more games feel nigh unwinnable right from turn 2 in Standard than I have in V. And as much as I try to maintain the stance that I may have made misplays that resulted in my loss, it almost always pales in comparison to the luck of the draw or just triggers being checked that heavily impacted the game and really makes me feel like my misplays were moot. I know many people criticize V for being too powercreep heavy, but the moment you step away from the tier 1-0 decks, the game becomes extremely fun. You can run some older strategy from a few months ago and still have it hold itself relatively well against a deck that came out recently and have a decent back and forth. You try bringing a deck in Standard from a few months ago and it just gets stomped on because Bushi said your deck wasn't part of the anime. When we had clans, decks had a unique advantage tied in with their clan that other clans did not get to copy. In Standard, the best DE decks got to have the resource game of Keter Sanctuary, because Bushi said so. Standard feels forced. It's like Bushi has an image of what decks they want to be good, and what they don't want to be, and they will design cards around this to ensure that image is realized. Good luck trying to get decent support for a deck not in said image. Go take your rare and common pack filler that says CB1 draw 1. Oh, I'm sorry, how could I forget - it also gives itself 5k power. Wow! That CB1 and 5k is definitely going to be the difference maker for the deck that has 5 glaring issues going on right now, with one of them being CB usage!

I understand the comparison to early V, but D has lasted longer than V’s run pre-clan collection… they’ve had the time. They’ve had more sets. But the way everything is designed? It feels like the card pool isnt EXPANDING, its just Replacing Cards With Strictly Better Versions. So every deck ends up being “Play a new RRR, play a new RRR, play a new RRR.”

I actually really like premium not being upended quickly, it feels stable and safe to get into. Though, this comes from someone who loves Legacy in magic, which was like that up until more recent times

I ALSO DELETED TWITTER FOR BLUESKY WAHOO!! For real though I'm def in the boat that competing in vanguard is really boring atm. Premium is really stale and for me personally most of the decks I enjoy are just bad in both formats. It has felt like even with multiple creators/community members trying to push this game and it's competitive scene, Bushiroad just doesn't care. Or some employees care but getting things approved is a nightmare if it isn't a new standard set. We have been asking for streamed events for over a decade, we have people willing to do the work for them as long as they get permission. We have asked for a premium banlist for a year at this point with 0 changes. No new premium cards, just errataing everything. It is like pulling teeth to get things done. I remember before the year started Kidani said 2024 was for the global market. But let's actually list what they have done so far: - Didn't close the release gap - Killed BRO - Killed V - Didn't kill OT - No streamed events - Vanilla start decks - Only premium product being all reprints with crests for only 3 specific decks - Premium Banlist had 0 changes - Gave energy to just standard and not premium, making 50% of standard cards actually unusable. - Almost allowed a cheater to get away with murder at worlds (Literally took the community berating them for weeks straight to go back on the decision) But they gave us a vyrgilla deck and vanguard day so everything is good :) Unironically the game is held up with the game designers constantly trying to innovate the game, and the base line game being really fun. Also the anime has been great which I think is doing more than it seems. As Tyler1 puts it in vanguard terms: "If it's not the f*cking OT bending me over and f*cking me, it's the god damn company themselves"

17:45 ABSOLUTELY 10k triggers are the legitimate worst

Another thing causing premium to be stale, is that if you aren’t playing a history collection deck you haven’t gotten a new stride since 2022. Deck like dimension police haven’t really changed in 2.5 years

Oh here are my two cents why the fuck is energy locked to standard only it should be in premium

I like the game still deck building is still my a favorite part of the game still trying to figure out how to make D boss playable in premium but I’m having fun while on the struggle bus rocking Rotovisor closest to Nova in D standard

Come to Bluesky mate. Standard: fine but boring/OT sucks Premium: Really fun but WE NEED NEW CARDS. Also OT sucks.

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