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Good questions! 85cm is a great mast length for beginner and advancing riders. it gives you room to make adjustments and allows you enough margin to get through chop. I always suggest angling a bit downwind to get going. It will help you get going from a dead stop. Play with the angle to find what works best for you. Between 90 degrees and about 70 degrees is probably a good area to test out.

Hey! Nice work on your first session/ lesson! Practicing on a sup can help you practice your wing maneuvering. If you have it and want to have some low consequence practice it will help. That said, I don't personally think it's necessary and would go straight to a foil board. As long as it's big enough to float you, your first few sessions will be spent no the board and not really on foil very much. If you are going slow it's basically the same as a SUP... I always recommend AT LEAST 40 plus your weight in KG. If you go bigger, you'll have an easier time getting started! Hope that helps!

@@giddyzero7 nice! Keep at it is right! You'll get there. The hard journey makes the reward of flying so much more incredible. Looking forward to when it clicks for you! Wishing you good winds!

Awesome! Thanks for the feedback and love to hear the success. Happy foiling!

Hey! My first instinct is your board is too small for both of you. Do you have foil experience? If not, you're going to really struggle to even stand on your board, never mind get on foil. I'd suggest getting a bigger board and your wife will really benefit too as it will be more stable for her to learn on. If you have no foil experience a 125L is where I'd start. If you are insistant on doing something smaller, 110 would be as small as I'd go. You most likely won't be able to get on foil if the wind is under 15 knots at first no matter what board you have. Bigger board is going to be way more fun for both of you. It's always doable with a smaller board but you're going to spend a lot of time swimming and you may end up deciding it's not worth it and get a bigger board anyway. Hope that helps and good luck!

@@westcoastwingfoil Thank you very much for this insight and feedback! I genuinely appreciate it! I don't have any foil experience, and I now completely understand that going bigger is definitely the way to go. Thank you very much!

Hi Where did you choose to have lessons In Vasiliki? Thanks

Honestly you should be good to go! If you have your own wetsuit, helmet, and impact vest those are nice to bring but I'm sure they will have all that covered. Enjoy the trip!

I don't use any dive case for the GoPro Max 360 camera. You really don't need it. The one thing that has happened to me is one of my lenses got scratched when in the rear mount position when entering the water. It scratched along the sand. Just be careful of that and you should be good!

@@westcoastwingfoil Thanks Blaise for the hint. I own an X4 and it comes with protectice lenses. Those will be sufficient.

Hi There! It's safer to keep your leash attached for your wing at all times. it's a simply velcro that attaches it to your wrist. If you release it you will loose it and be stuck paddling in. You don't have to worry about it when you fall. It's not a big danger like kite boarding where it can drag you down wind. Hope that helps!

You got it! Well closer to Jericho :)

Totally hear you about not having disposable income to spend on multiple boards. I still stand by the fact that you need a big board to start. You don't need to go smaller so soon. You'll be happy foiling on a bigger board for long time.And the alternative is that you spend 10 sessions battling and getting know where vs actually learning to foil. Hope that helps!

Are you just starting out? If the answer is yes, then I'd really discourage that set-up. Will be almost impossible to learn on! It can be done, but really think it's a bad idea in majority of cases.

Welcome to the sport! I don't know that brand but the size looks like a good starting size so good choice!

I hear you. But I've seen first hand the hours that and materials he puts into each board he makes and trust me he's not making a huge margin. Nothing close to a production board! It's the sad reality of locally and hand made products. If you compare them with production prices it doesn't come close in price. But it's 10x better when you compare quality and performance.

@@westcoastwingfoil I have a top shaper and I know many others who make customs price 1,500 or so. That's great if he can get 4k. Back in the windsurf days a Roberts board was gold but times change.

Thanks for the compliments! Good luck on your first session! You can grabl a shirt here: WCWingFoil.redbubble.com

Thanks for the support Chris! This is greatly appreciated. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions on your wing foil journey!

I think both are great to get a feel for riding a foil and weight distribution for controlling your foil. Both efoiling and boat tow foiling are a bit different to wing foiling. Just the way you're powered and creates a slightly different feel and technique required. But if you have done either you're definitely better off than someone who hasn't foiled at all! What efoil did you try?

You can definitely give it a try with just the board. You can also practice on the beach with the wing. This all helps gives you a grasp of the wing and the positions you need to be in to direct you across the wind. Definitely a good idea. Once you're comfortable going across the wind you can add the foil and start practiciing getting up on foil. Keep in mind that even if your foil is on your board you can still ride on the board and not on foil. Getting up on foil takes work so if you want to stay on the board that shouldn't be an issue.

Hey there, What wind speed are you going out in with your wing? It's a big foil which is great for learning. The downside to the big foil is it's less resposive to carving. The smaller the wing span of your front foil wing the better it will be for carving. But the bigger the wing surface area the easier it is to get up on foil.

Are you experiencing a new whistling sound after you have done a repair that wasn't there before?

Thanks for the compliments and welcome to the wing foil family! I'm glad you are making the leap. It's not the easiest journey to start but once you get that first feeling of flying over the water the payoff is huge! Looking forward to sharing more content to help you progress! ✊💪🏄✈

Are you on Patreon for subscribers to your channel to support?@@westcoastwingfoil

@@drbfitk366 Yes! Although I don't often promote it... You can reah the patreon page here. Thanks for your support! patreon.com/WestCoastWingFoil

Thanks Paul! Glad I could help. Good luck on your journey to this amazing sport!

Thank you! I hope more people find them :)

Aren't the "sails" the eact shape of a wing?

@@westcoastwingfoil The outer contour gives the impression of a wing, but the whole inner shape, which is what matters, has the shape of and behaves aerodynamically as a kite.

@@maxagent86 I guess in a "true sense" you're right. But since Kiteboarding/ foiling was taken I can see why it makes sense to call the sport Wing Foiling... 😎

@@westcoastwingfoil Handkiting / foiling would have been better, I believe.

Youre welcome. A session is just when you go out doiling on a given day. It can vary from 2 hours to 5 hours depending on your stamina and time available.

Many thanks for the clarification.

Thanks for the support! I really appreciate that!

Thanks for your input! I always appreciate alternate perspectives. Just to clarify, you're wing foiling a 400cm2 front wing in 7-10 knot winds on a lake? That would be really imprrssive/ surprising and definitely require a lot of work and pumping skill. Also to me the upside (speed) would be marginal compared to a slightly larger front wing. I agree with the larger hand wing. I have a 7m and love it for light winds! But with a small front wing (higher stall speed) you still have to jibe faster which is more difficult especially for beginners/ intermediate riders and the larger sail doesn't make it easier (other than giving you more power). I love Sabfoil. Road it for a long time and still have one. I actually did use GPS from my GoPro Max to see my top speeds in different wind conditions and found I was achieving higher speeds on my F4. This also gets reinforced by pro riders on the world circuit... F4 is placing in top spots very frequently. I appreciate you challenging some points raised and do agree that some items are up for debate and a bit subjective. My goal is to help riders improve through my experience but I don't pretend I'm going to be right about everything. Thanks again for your input and perspective. 🤙

@@westcoastwingfoil Hi, no big misunderstanding there! I can (and I really can't say that I am an expert) wing with a 750 cm² front wing as stated above. I wouldn't recommend it to everyone nor on all conditions but when you have 15 kts its really no magic going on there. The -400 applies for your graph/chart for front wing cm² recomendations and thats where I disagree heavily because I had much trouble starting out on a 2500 cm² front wing I couldn't get enough weight on my front foot and found out some fellows had the same issue. In my opinion subtract 400 cm² for beginner advanced expert in every category that would be much more realistic. I went away from big hand wings I also had a 7 m² and to me they don't make much sense because I am 1,8 m tall so pretty much average and heavily impaired on pumping with such a big wing. I drive a 4 m² hand wing in almost every condition now and that works fine for me even in very low wind. You are very right about small front wings and problems with learning manouvers but on the other hand you can reuse the energy when already driving very fast which you can't with a big slow front wing. Same thing with wind lulls and gusts. But I concentrated on the matter of speed only and therefore just watch a video of @Dengordo on his 600 or 700 cm² front wing you will see what a big difference that is compared to your 1450 foil even if it is a very good one (which I don't know / haven't tried it). I quoted DenGordo here because he races and is out for speed AND he tracks his gps also so you can compare numbers furthermore his videos are kind of entertaining. I don't want to support any brand. I simply cannot imagine that with all the extra drag of a 1450 you could anyhow reach anything like that even not with a 1050. SInce you gave no gps stats I can only guess it from the spray of your mast and so on. Thank you for your very kind words I also only want to help other riders. In the end a foil system is always a compromise and it matters very much what you intend on doing with it. My guess is: Most people out there want a foil that can pretty much do everything (waveriding/ go fast/ responsive/ go well against (heavy) wind / jump/ efficient/ go long distance).

He obviously reviews what he gets sponsored with without getting to try new wing design. Have not scene one free-fly shot showcasing the glide.

Thanks for your comment! That is a fair point. I tried to compare to 2 top brands, Naish and Sabfoil. My hope is that most people have those on their radar as high competing foils so it would be a helpful benchmark. I'll do my best to get access to more foils to proivde a wider array of options in the future.

@@scp8412 I don't even know who free-fly is... Is this a foil you think competes as being one of the best in terms of speed, stall speed, stiffness, and glide?

@@westcoastwingfoil just meant gliding downwind on foil without using wing power.

Yikes! I guess they don't have as many boards going through. Good to know. Thanks for sharing!

I've got a video showing how I do it. Check the video description as well as I've changed a few things: th-cam.com/video/ow0AKu8J_Fc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xEYjD5_cotGs5wb_