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Gets a lot of stick but I also owe getting into The Sound because Winning popped up on my weekly Spotify Discovery playlist. In terms of why they didn't make it, i remember reading that Tony Parsons wrote an unkind review an Outsiders gig, commenting on how Adrian looked. Sad to say getting backing from the NME was important back then. Disappointing that John Peel never really got behind them either by all accounts

Noel Gallaher/Oasis couldn't hold a torch to the talent of the La's. And they know it... Hence the quib.

REM in the 80s is what the 90s would end up sounding like.

My local record store was playing The Blasting Concept compilation when it came out. When I hear Paranoid Time I bought the compilation, Double Nickels and everything else they had Minutemen. Ironically I was in Phoenix where DB bought it. Since then I've always said my favorite band is the Minutemen. Everyone else is tied for second.

This was so great. Thank you, and you're so right. R.E.M. was consistently THE best American band for decades, so why are they now so seemingly forgotten? I love every album, and each was unique and special in its own way, and had its own distinctive vibe or personality. If some of the quality got a bit diluted as the albums rolled on, as on "Up" and "Collapse Into Now", most conspicuously, it wasn't because they stopped crafting quality songs, but only because a tiny number of isolated songs against the whole seemed ill-chosen and weren't discarded as they should've been. This band was still producing masterful songs and music right up to the last.

In the early 90's I used to shop regularly at a record store called Rhino Records in Claremont, CA just 25 miles or so East of Los Angeles. They had a massive wall of cassettes that they would sell at discount. You could easily get 3, 4, sometimes 5 for 10 dollars. I was perusing these tapes when the artwork of Script of the Bridge, Fan and the Bellows, and What Does Anything Mean? Basically, smacked me dead in the face. I had to have them based solely on the artwork. I had no idea what life-altering wonders were in store for me once I got back into my car a pushed the cassette in. I think I wept at how incredible the music was. I was mind-blown. How had I never heard this before? How was I the only person I knew who had these albums? A few years later in 1999 I was at the Troubadour in LA for the reunion show and I sang and shouted until my voice went out. It was easily one of the best shows I have ever witnessed. Years later in 2011 or 2012 I saw Chameleons Vox while I was living up in Oakland, CA. Mark still sounded utterly magnificent. I am really hoping to see them in a few weeks in New Orleans or Birmingham, AL. The Chameleons are absolutely one of my favorite bands and IMHO one of the greatest bands of all time. I also had that t-shirt Craig Cash wore on the tele and I normally would NEVER wear white shirts but for that one I had to make an exception.

Idlewild 's Early work remind me of Post Hardcore bands like Fugazi, Bitch Magnet and Unwound, but did the band Really fit into the Late 90s Britrock camp? or They were just indie-rock

Adrian Borland was a genious songwriter and guitarist.

The Sound were big in Belgium. Not a joke, actually :-).

REM completely changed my life in terms of musical taste. I have had the honor and privilege to see them twice live. They are a powerhouse in the live venue. They will forever be one of my absolute favorite bands.

I heard "winning" on dutch independent radio station - and was in awe from then on.

Here in Greece ,the Chameleons songs are well known in Goth underground clubs.Haven't realized since this video that are not a big name in UK.Seems very strange to me as they are one of the best post punk groups of all time.

Fugazi! In the 10 list of greatest guitar bands ever. Foo Fighters…and the rest dream on….miles behind

Heard them regularly in the day, and you hear them regularly today in the goth/ brit pop, Alternative clubs. Great side by side example of Interpol and the Chameleons. I always thought Interpol was ripping off Kitchens of Distinctions, but I guess they were both just ripping off the Chameleons. I never put 2 and 2 together.

First time I heard "High as you can go" I was blown away. Then I got the album. There was a period where I played the Chameleons almost non-stop.

agreed. Tripping dogs.

An extremely special band. Mythical really.

I graduated from HS in 91, started community college locally, and found a college radio station --> that is where I first found the Muses (glad you finally did too)! I picked up the Sire "Just Say...", in this case "Just Say Yes", and found the Muses again. Shortly thereafter Belly was in full swing on MTV...I had the biggest crush on Tonya Donelly and to this day think she / her sister / that band are one of the more critical (& agreed underrated) pillars of modern indie.

I'm Serbian and I watched The Royle Family, loved it! (We get a lot of UK shows on TV) I love The Chameleons, such an underrated band. Second Skin is one of the best songs ever.

Amazing analysis. Very similar to my POV and experience.

That comment is jokingly spot on about Interpol. Interpol is a great band as well. The Chameleons are simply superb.

The most underrated album of my lifetime.

Grand Prix by Teenage Fanclub.

The Real Ramona is a gem of an album. It never gets old. One song not mentioned here is the last song of the album, "2 Step". What an amazingly simple and beautiful song. Perfect ending. (I decided 30 years ago that I wanted this song played at my funeral... and have never changed my mind.)

Did I hear Warners are to re release FTLM and Jeopardy on vinyl this November?

Timeless melody Looking glass Feelin’ Son of a gun Some of the greatest songs ever written

just try to figure how it is like to be a chameleons fan in Lima, Peru, for decades not knowing anybody else who even had an idea of who they are and then,one day, maybe 10 or so years ago, burgess and lever are here in Lima for an underground visit and playin in a small hardcore venue. well...the place was packed!! Always in the top te nof my favorite bands.

I was lucky enough to see them live at the Moonlight club in West Hampstead in 1981 I think it was...the sheer power of them has stayed with me...I thought they were the best around and I went to a lot of gigs at that time. I wish I never gave away my copy of Jeopardy.

Missiles!!

Used to go to a local Sunday night indie disco in the mid 80s and it was always fun watching peopke confidently dance to Up the Down Escalator, arms flailing then for those last few seconds if the song when thd tempo drops, just kind of shuffle awkwardly off the dance floor, Toweringly brilliant band.

I started listening to the Sound because my own band was compared regularly with The Sound. My band The Gentry was one of John Peels favorites Dutch bands in the mid eighties. I fully understand the comparison now. The voices are very similar. Check Fragments of truth (1984) and Solitary (1986).

Thank you very much. The Sound is worth to be mentioned. From the lions mouth is great album.

Winning has some musical coincidences with joy division song new dawn fades. And that’s a great thing ❤

The double CD 'Doghouse' is just an absolute gem. It has rarities like Finished, Fish, A SheWolf After the War, Garoux Des Larmes...

LONG LIVE HÜSKER DÜ.

You set me off on the best musical trip of my life. I started watching this video...maybe 2 years ago...as 'What Does Anything...' was probably my favourite album of the 80s. Utter genius. And now, having followed up on your references, I have discovered Ist Ist and The Slow Readers Club...two bands that demand about 70% of my precious Friday afternoon music sessions on ale. So genuine thanks for expanding my horizons in a direction I wanted to go...Funny (?) side issue. Alexa absolutely refuses to comprehend the term 'Ist Ist'. 'She' insists on playing music by 'First First'. :) Which is actually the same band (linguistically obviously) but makes you wonder about the nature of AI...

Fun fact: I bought 'Generation Terrorists' in the U.S. when I was on holiday from the U.K. in 1993. I AM the Manics' U.S. fan base!

Remember the Neon Hearts or the Suburban Studs? Lockjaw? The Valves?

Great band.

I discovered the MINUTEMEN in '93 when I bought "What Makes a Man Want To Start Fires" at Tower records in Tempe AZ because I recognized the Raymond Pettibon art on the cover. Low and Behold, they were unique and syncretic -- which is what I will always crave -- and I fell in love. I enjoyed all their older more raw and unique stuff, but was actually disappointed when I purchased Double Nickels on the Dime on vinyl.

BBC 6music did an afternoon show which had a feature called "Kings of the wild frontier". They played "Monkey land" and that was a game changer for me. I'd failed college and didn't know what to do next. Couple that with me starting to read the "His Dark Materials" books by Philip Pullman, and they both just seemed to sit happily together. Never been the same since.

Try also Cardiacs, whom The Sound share connections with. A band like no other.

Ive seen the muses/kristen almost 20 times since the late 80's, 3 times when she was pregnant, they have always been criminally underrated.

Awesome assessments here. We could go on and on about bands that were left out of this synthesis, but this is really strong commentary. Thank you for this submission!

The answer is…YES.

The Real Ramona ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤!!!!!!!

Saw them in chicago years ago. The guitarist seemed drunk and was bitching at the security guards for some reason. Great show, but i thought maybe they're "difficult" to work with and that held them back?

Just as a side note: The bass in "The Fire" is one of the 10 best bass lines ever, especially for me as a (semi) musician. Incredibly intense and direct. The sound lives on, in every song, in every video, here on the internet and wherever...

A superb album..... and I'm really fussy!

Since this video was released 3 years ago, Mark Burgess has rejoined with Reg and has also brought on a great rhythm section to recreate the amazing Chameleons sound of old. Just saw them a few weeks ago and they were absolutely brilliant. At age 64, Burgess performs like the guy I saw in 1984 in New York. I've Loved this band ever since I brought home the peerless Statik Records compilation of Northern bands "Your Secret's Safe With Us" (also featuring Pulp.) An amazing band deserving of all of the adoration they receive.