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This make not sense goku could not beat super buu .. gohan was the only one that could beat him end of story gohan is stronger goku ..with kid buu goku was fighting good matching hes power but but against super buu.. and super buu is the strongest .. so gohan is stronger than goku

Gohan is stronger they is no queen about it

I feel like the only reason he let Babadi control him was to go back to being cold hearted.

majin curse is not a straightforward power boost. its magical steroids. breaks ones psychological barriers

yes, he was

Whis tells there's no above zeno in all existence over reality

ultra ego vegeta is outerversal !

7:58 - that filler scene is just proof of Buu being stronger than SSJ 3 Goku. He toyed with Goku and Goku barely could catch up.

Yes

Id believe he did. If Goku could there’s no doubt Vegeta couldn’t. I think all babidi’s magic did was super bolster his base stats the same way it did the others.

lets look at this logically, lets say dubura is as strong as cell, cell has way too many abilities that makes better then dabura in every aspect. Cell can regen, perfect for tearing off limbs dabura can stone. Cell has every fighters skills. unfortunately dabura is kinda fodder to cell in terms of going 1 on 1. they might scale 1 to 1 but cell would out perform dabura in a 1 on 1 no contest. its not about power its about the abilities at that point.

I say it’s Zarama 😏 (But Toribot is better)

good review

Gohan is power full then blackfreeza.

Another clickbaiting donut

Gohan is also the strongest non god, non angel being as well

I just finished the anime and just buyed all manga just need 22 and 23 cant wait to read it all and more to come. Good vid and audio quality❤

Ultimate Gohan never should have existed. A terrible writing decision

If anyone actually read the Manga the only reason Evil Buu absorbing Fat Buu and would end up taking the form of Super Buu is because reassimilating with himself he was able to tap into his latent power (without Kai Inhibitors) as well as take on a form that's more "suited for battle"

You kind of sound like Benson from Regular Show

Piccolo know namekian and even Bulma should know it

The thing about if the Kai die the destroyer die thing is only there cause they were preventing the destroyer from killing the Kai, that’s why beerus seal the old Kai, I think that same rule would apply to Zeno and the other guy

Zeno lives outside of the multiverse

I don't think that at all. I believe Zeno is still the King of Everything and once Rymus created the universes Zeno would automatically become the king of those universes too. Rymus is the highest authority in the universes but Zeno is still the highest authority over everything.

Rymus created outside multiverses, but Kaioshins implanted life there. Rymus made empty space, maybe stars, matter to mould for Kaioshins.

Okay so are you saying gp is stronger than Zeno cause the angels are stronger than their destroyers

Toriyama-bot is the real God, but within realms of DB there is no supreme god. They are equal to each other. It's not monotheism.

Anti Spiral

That’s a good theory. I was theorizing that Super Rymus was like the demon realms Super Shenron. I think when they eventually make a wish with the demon realm dragon balls Super Rymus will appear.

Well, this video did make sense until future Zeno erased creation in DBS with the future timline, which would have erased Rymus. So, no.

The demon realm and the Angelic realm probably existed before the multiverse. The multiverse was forged by a demon which explains why evil exists in it. Thats my head canon

Nah the manga has goku as the strongest too. Its not just the anime the anime just makes it more obvious. 1st we need to establish that super buus strength increase is never portrayed as a large increase. Super buu is portrayed as a rearrangement of the same components only changing who is in control. Super buu can just draw out that power more easily and has the desire to actually use it. Goku is stated to be above fat buu even in a suppressed ssj3 form and with the lack of any statements or feats to compare the 2 we cant say which is stronger for now. So at this point we have established both super buu and goku are over fat buu but havent established who is stronger between them. So now we move on to the inside buu statements. People talk enough about the cant go out like this statement but ignore the scene preceeding it where vegeta outright states that if they return buu to base form he should not be a problem and fusion should not be necessary. Its important to note goku disagrees with vegeta but not on the basis of their strength but because he is not certain they will even be able to rescue their kids. Remember this is uncharted territory and goku is taking a cautious approach while vegeta is confident in their current plan and strength. This leads into the next scene where they do succeed in removing the kids and are going to leave. Goku is portrayed as having a realization that at their current level they cant fight super buu. However only a page before we have goku and vegeta speaking confidently of fighting base super buu. This would appear to be a contradiction if you dont pay attention to the specific wording of "like this" referencing the fact they are smaller and confirmed narratively to be weaker in that state. Again, we, having read the manga, have hindsight to know things work out but goku or vegeta have no reason to believe they would return to normal at this point. We even see goku look surprised and celebrate everyone returning to normal confirming that was a concern of his before. Now we move on to removing fat buu. Initially they do that with the expectation that buu would get weaker but its explicitly stated in the manga that buus ki increases by goku and again confirmed by shin that the presence of the grand supreme kai inside buu weakened him. Despite being confirmed stronger goku and vegeta still remain confident they can defeat kid buu. Now obviously kid buu goes on to prove them wrong as we later find out kid buu is playing with them the entire time but it doesnt change that in that moment the increased level of strength they felt was still confortable enough for them to face. As you can see the most consistent portrayal of goku is that he is above super buu level. The anime guides and interviews firther clarify this as well.

Zeno has his own world outside of space , but it is not outisde of time, hence why there is another version of him in an alternate timeline.... just likt trunks killed the Debora of his timeline , this implies theres is a demon realm of that timeline , and probably another ramus as well . We haven't met any characters that exist outside of both time and space yet

Decent video up until the point where u said zeno has guards because hes easily killable. Thats idiotic, they're more along the lines of servants if anything. It was already stated that zeno cannot be defeated nor destroyed no matter what...this means under any circumstances , not having fighting skills does not translate to being killable

Zeno exists in his own dimension above the multiverse

So south kai > SS3 goku.

Old Kai : So, you are telling me that this little Buu is the first one, the most trouble some ? Shibito : Yes. Shibito : According to pro-Buuhan : yes, because is is weaker than Fat Buu. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Shibito : By Absorption, Buu Lost Power because hé gained Heart. End of story 🤡 Buu with no Absorption > Buu with Absorption...

My theory is that Rymus IS Zeno. No or Low Universe count = Zeno automatically transforms into Rymus and starts creating Too many universes = Rymus automatically transforms into Zeno and starts destroying. Transforming makes them lose their memories, but Grand Priest is the only one that still knows this truth of Zeno and Rymus

zeno is not outside of time. if he was there would not be a future zeno, there would only be one.

Great vid but there a few issues with it. Zeno is physically weak and can be killed just sounded like an attempt to justify your point more than anything. Supreme Kai said Ryumus is the highest authority in the universe because at this point he doesn’t know who Zeno is and he won’t know until the universe 6 tournament. He knows that there are various universes that were created, meaning he does have a decent knowledge the Cosmos but he has never heard of Zeno at all, not even in legends or myths. That means Zeno exists beyond myths and legends which is a big deal because this is someone who oversees entire universe but still never had of him. Rymus being the highest authority doesn’t hold. Secondly, Zeno has threatened to erase his so called guards for Goku, I don’t know what you think they can protect him. They have never been called guards by the way they’re called attendants, meaning they answer to Zeno’s whim. The first time we saw them doing something, was acting as means of transportation for Zeno when he went to universe 6 tournament which substantiates them being mere attendants, on top of that Supreme Kai blatantly stated no one could ever kill Zeno during the FT saga which is another auto debunk for Zeno being physically weak. High Priest wouldn’t stop Zeno from destroying all of reality if he felt like it as he doesn’t take decisions for Zeno, he only advises him, his role is to a guide like Whis not to rule or order Zeno. Whis knocking Beerus out was sort of a weird case though 😂, and he did it twice in movie and manga. I guess that is how they stop G.o.Ds when they go out of control but still they don’t take decisions for G.o.Ds, they advise them, G.o.Ds going out of control maybe is not regarded as a logical decision, so that’s they knock them out. Grand Priest in the manga is outright stated to be the mightiest being in the universe, meaning he’s stronger than both Zeno and Rymus. They same trio of a Supreme Kai and G.o.D and an angel attendant is applies to the 3 of them as well. GP > Zeno =/> Rymus. Assuming that Supreme Kai’s are weak and can’t throw hands or can’t destroy is also weird because because they fought Buu and Moro, Zamasu chosen to be an apprentice because of his skills in martial arts. They can definitely nook the universe if they wanted but it is not their job as Gowasu stated. It’s like saiyan Whis can’t destroy the universe because it is not his job.

The REAL REASON HE EVOLVED. Was because beerus told him he ordered the destruction of his planet. All those big words for nothing. 😂😂😂 Your video was pointless 😭

Even after Cell's Zenkai boost Goku confirmed Gohan was still strong enough to kill Cell.

Zenkai isn't a massive power up Vegeta fought Frieza then let Killian blast him before Genda healed him it didn't work out.