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Hello Brant. Good to see you again.

It’s been a long time since I saw a new video with Brant Pitre. I missed you!

Brant Pitre is my personal hero.

The discussion around 1:10:10 reminds me of a thing someone said about cinema: we don't need another movie about Christianity, we need movies created by Christian directors.

I do believe Gavin has got a weird theology ; there is some deep pathology about him and the trio of Catholic Unscripted . Tomas Halik has it right , thus : Thomas Halik: The Tablet 7 September 2024 Synodal reform must be more than a mere continuation of the line of the Second Vatican Council. It must open up space for the mission of the Church in a postmodern age of radical plurality. Pope Francis has identified synodal reform as the Church’s programme for the third millennium. Synodality is to be the form of the Church throughout its future history - to its final eschatological consummation. It is a journey through history into the arms of God. To regard any particular state of society or of the Church, of scientific or of theological knowledge, as final and unchangeable is to succumb to the temptation of triumphalism. Triumphalism consists in mistaking the present imperfect state of the Church in history (ecclesia militans) for its eschatological form, the ecclesia triumphans, the perfect Church of the saints in heaven. The heresy of triumphalism is often accompanied by paternalism, clericalism, fundamentalism and traditionalism. Paternalism forgets that the teaching Church must also be a learning Church. Clericalism is a manifestation of “worldliness” - it understands authority in the Church as worldly power, not as ministry. The bearers of this ministry then behave like a “ruling class” or upper caste, separated in many of their actions and lifestyles from the whole of God’s people. Fundamentalism forgets that here we see and understand “only in part, as in a mirror and in riddles” (1 Corinthians 13:12). The images presented to us by scripture and tradition are icons for meditation, means of adoration of the Mystery; not idols that need no further interpretation. Fundamentalism objectifies and flattens the mystery of faith, of binding it into the shape of a closed ideological system. And traditionalism is a denial of the meaning of tradition as a living, creative transmission of faith. It is a heresy in the original sense of the word, an arbitrary selection - it takes a certain historically conditioned form of the Church or of its doctrine out of context and absolutises it. Faithfulness to the faith is a commitment to courageously, creatively and responsibly revive and transform the forms of its expression so as to enable its content to be communicated in an intelligible and credible way. Both the abundance of responsible theological reflection and the variety of practical examples of living the faith reveal the inexhaustible richness of the “treasure of faith” and the inexhaustible variety of its authentic interpretations. The synodal development of the Church will show, in the words of Pope Francis, many new ways of being Christian, and new - and unexpected - ways of being the Church in the world. All attempts to shackle the freedom of the Spirit of God, to reduce the richness of God’s self-expression and to enclose it in a rigid, closed ideological system, run the risk of the gravest sin: the sin against the Holy Spirit.

Awesome conversation!

Re TLM, if people lose their history, you can lead them wherever you want to. I think that is a Marxist axiom?

Every new Larry Chapp podcast is my new favourite Larry Chapp podcast. And this one's no exception

21:00 this analysis of the situation is most valuable

Dialogue: Do as I say and don’t argue.

Q. What out-occults an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate evil such as sexual molestation groomed of psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members in their procreation gift roles by diseased identities of 'familyist' family members in invalid marriages for occult, incest connected economic advantage by tax-exemption embezzlements and lower insurance cost by fraud for families of these groomers other than valid consecrated marriage, celibate or male female or both as in the case of Mary? Pope Francis in his consecrated celibate marriage on 17 June 2021 in the cases of his Vatican state embezzled procreation role gift charity donations and the Italian Parliament "Zan" anti-homophobia bill as an unacceptable risk of fraud on his identity exercised the trinitarian absolute power of simultaneous authorisations by consecrated marriage, celibate vowed to man in Christ or male female vowed to God of ensuring and/or insuring. The "Christian world view" is replaced by a consecrated marriage worldwide absolute power of authorisation as "I AM WHO I AM" (Exodus 3:14) withstanding a "worldwide catastrophe" (PF, 10/6/21) of that "the great majority of sacramental marriages are invalid" (PF, 16/6/16) as cause of this worldwide groomed sexual molestation. I am embarrassed about evangelisation because it shows up in me the lack of what it requires as my consecrated poverty as well as consecrated both obedience and chastity. Cardinal Cupich avoided throwing pearls to swine by not referring to Jesus at the Democratic Party Convention. "attempt to change the Church's DNA" (Chapp quoting Ashenden) misrepresents consecrated marriage role identity as the DNA. "Objectivity versus subjectivity" (Ashenden) misrepresents keeping in uncertainty of belief the inseparability and qualitative equality of objective processes and subjective progress. Inability to accept this consecrated marriage DNA is due to the occult, incest connected evil of this groomed economic advantage hidden by "higher vocation". For a continuation of the reference point of Mary at Lk 1:29-45 and Mt 1:24 the synod on synodality has immediate reference points of two members of the family of Colin Clark as joined in consecrated marriages, the older, economist/statistician of national accounts awarded a papal medal by Pope St Paul V1 for advising Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: "marriage has two inseparable aspects: union and procreation", Colin Clark, joined in a consecrated male female marriage from 1946, the younger one of his eight sons, myself, joined successively in consecrated marriages, first male female from 25/2/91 then on the death of his wife on 1/11/17 celibate completed on 31/3/21 as immediate reference point for Pope Francis' consecrated marriage on 17/6/21 in the matters simultaneously of the: (a) Vatican state Cardinal Angelo Becciu + 9 as citizen/employee helpers of the family embezzlements of his procreation role gift charity donations, (b) Italian Parliament "Zan" anti-homophobia bill as an unacceptable risk of fraud on his family member identity in his consecrated celibate marriage. Chapp and Ashenden if not joined in consecrated marriages exercising an absolute power of authorisation to out-occult occult, incest connected evils cannot understand Pope Francis' valid consecrated celibate marriage's exercise of an absolute power of simultaneous trinitarian authorisations and this would explain their evident diffidence as a disconnect of faith and thinking hence not in uncertainty belief as the keeping in this uncertainty of their inseparability and qualitative equality.

Great lecture so interesting. Lovely to listen to someone who knew and studied with Pope Benedict

there is this rumor that's been going around since maybe 2300 years that the hebrews had lost their way. they lost the stories, texts, and rabbis to time and memories. Then finding themselves back in Judah after basically being thrown out of Babylon, discovered that what their grandparents told them about their history was lost to time, sand, occupation, and quite frankly better stories. As the rumor goes 80 or was it 70 people calling themselves rabbis (because there were no rabbis left) moved to Alexandria and learned greek. once they had a bit of a greek tongue were then able to ask the Greeks in Alexandria to help them write their story in greek, because is was so articulate and pliable. They were able to express in greek what they could never say in a lost and forgotten text. and, it seems the stories you are telling happened 300 years later. and it seems to be that the person you are referring to i.e., yesus, was a bit of a trickster/con. have you heard he planned his own death because he knew of an antidote for a drug he took before hanging on a tree? of course, it's a rumor just like everything else from 2000 years ago. I wonder if either one of you has heard about these stories. or, is this just more jealousy from people who don't agree with your understanding?

Rome will lose the faith.

Larry, thanks for this. I just shared this document with our Superintendent of Catholic Schools. I will be praying for your family as you minister to your family in Nebraska.

Prayers for your parents, Larry.

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Dr Larry, i really enjoy your podcast! Are you still a universalist or you is still just a Hopeful universalist? God Bless you and your family 🙏🏻

I liked Bishop Eldon Curtis.

Praying for you and your family.

Excellent through and through!

Dr Chapp says that people see the ressourcement as reactionary. I'm sure some do, but there is notable and growing opposition from Traditionalists who see it as disastrously liberal (Bishop Schneider in various books and pronouncements; Archbishop Vigano who has taken to pulling down Pope Benedict XVI's reputation, aided by Taylor Marshall). Some Traditionalists take a contrary view.

René Guénon showed long ago that the only force powerful enough to resist subversion by liberal beliefs is Islam.

Pope Francis is not blessing gay marriage 🎚️never never never • He is blessing the gay person and insists they stop sinning. SODOMY

Gavin at one point says, "once Church teaching has been changed". Defined Church dogma is irreformable. It is not in any Popes gift to change Church teaching as is set out quite clearly in Pastor Aeternus. The Popes job is to safeguard Church teaching and to propagate it. If any Pope attempts to change Church teaching it is obligatory for those faithful to the Church's teaching to disobey him and to continue to adhere to the Faith as handed down. In other words when the CCC says that the state has no right to execute criminals it is false and must be ignored.

Gavin at one point says, "once Church teaching has been changed". Defined Church dogma is irreformable. It is not in any Popes gift to change Church teaching as is set out quite clearly in Pastor Aeternus. The Popes job is to safeguard Church teaching and to propagate it. If any Pope attempts to change Church teaching it is obligatory for those faithful to the Church's teaching to disobey him and to continue to adhere to the Faith as handed down. In other words when the CCC says that the state has no right to execute criminals it is false and must be ignored.

Great guest! Thank you

Thank you both, great to listen in hear. God bless.

Dr. Chapp has echoed some of the very words I have used to describe the Conciliar Church. However, while some of the jargon he criticizes may have gone main stream in the 1970's many of the ideas were right out of the Pandora's Box 1960's once V2 had wrapped up.

Bergoglio is the most dangerous heretic and apostate who had ever lived-ok, he has built upon the Magisterium of his predecessors of evil memory back to Frater Roncalli.

So entertaining thanks!

Really great articulate discussion guys! Lets be clear about one thing in the world today, true Carholics did not create Homophobia, Homosexuals did. If there were no Homosexuals, Lesbians, Transgenerism etc there would be no phobias. So the very fact that disordered people created perversion is the very reason that normal people have an adversion to their behaviour. So evil inverts this and makes evil good, while good becomes evil. It uses human laws to invert the Truth. However human laws are not GOD'S Laws and so the devil is in charge on Earth.

You can tell where Ashenden is coming from - a protestant anti-Catholic position masquerading as Catholic.

Thanks for bringing Dr Ashenden back on. Catholic Unscripted is an important cultural and religious interlocutor in these chaotic times. Thanks always for your great insights Dr Chapp.

will i still be able to draw and paint in my spirit body in heaven? Creating art is my favourite thing to do

Is usury still a sin? If it is not, why should sodomy still be?

20:06 "Dignitas Aeternum"? Does Ashenden mean "Dignitas Infinita", DDF, 2 April 2024?

"clumsy"? (Ashenden). "Speak God's mind into the situation" (Ashenden)? Ashenden is worse than clumsy in separating "one heart and mind" (NIV Acts 4:32).

Synodality is not democracy per se. Consecrated marriage, celibate vowed to man in Christ or male female vowed to God in the keeping in uncertainty of belief of their inseparability and qualitative equality, in exercising an absolute power of simultaneous authorisations of ensuring procreation role gifts and insuring need of union of identity is the Synodal "Magisterium" as keeping unity of processes of thinking and progress in having faith that in their multiplication is the "I AM WHO I AM" (Exodus 3:14).

The roman catholic position on thinking mind/reason and having faith/heart until Pope Francis and his synodality was contraceptive as not "of one heart and mind" (NIV Acts 4:32).

Wonderful discussion- thank you.

The cancer of communism etc will only be defeated when sufficient faithful fulfill Our Lady's request to practice the First Five Saturday's Devotion.

I experienced syodality first hand as an Episcopalian before my conversion. Nothing good will come of it. The Episcopal Church USA is running on fumes, investments and little else. There will be nothing left in 10-20 years.

If what you say could happen in the upcoming synod, what will happen in the Church? Where would I go? What would happen to the efficacy of the Sacraments?

Ashenden pointed out that the way the synod is organized now it permits the least informed to vote on decisions, which has led to the downfall of churches as the Church of England and the Episcopal Church in the U.S. What is the alternative? What is the solution? Is it too late to do anything about it? Must we resign ourselves to the same result for the Catholic Church? Larry Chapp discerns the goal of it is the "scuttlization of Catholic morality." Gavin added it permits the outing of gay clergy. Thank God, we can see that what is happening is not slipping by unnoticed.🤔

I stopped listening to Gavin after he bowed at the feet of Taylor Marshall.

Thank you for addressing this topic!! You guys nailed it in so many ways. It’s a spiritual battle out there good vs evil. The whole point of being a Catholic is to strive towards Holiness and imitate Jesus Christ. How are people supposed to accomplish this when they are not being encouraged to repent from their sins. This synod is not needed and is very dangerous. Thank you both for taking a very good righteous stance on the matter. God Bless. 🙏❤️

This was so amazing and informative - I loved every minute of it. Thanks to you both!

Being a realist requires being open thomist

the rage at the 1:04:00 mark is beautiful to see