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Having fun outdoors and traveling with ebikes, motorcycles and 4x4, we like to share interesting things we find and do along the way.
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This channel is for having fun as an expat, exploring the world, reviewing outdoor gear and doing random adventures with cooking, prepping, solar power, making tiny houses from sea containers, and sharing our love of coffee. If that's stuff that interests you, then please like and subscribe to help the channel grow.
For product reviews and professional services contact ebikecnx@gmail.com or call +66(0)949189245
Titanium "Mini M40" Alternative To Dave Canterbury's PFM40 And The Swedish Mess Kit
A deep-dive into the world of Swedish mess kits and the great Pathfinder reproduction, the Self Reliance Outfitter's PFM40 leads us to a simple lightweight alternative in titanium from Boundless Voyage. The Boundless Voyage 2-in-1 stove (model Ti 2005C or Ti 1513B-BV) we bought for $50 is super-lightweight and works with twigs, charcoal, alcohol burners and Esbit/hexamine fuel. It also holds most water canteen bottles that are traditionally shaped.
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"I love a good luxrul because it helps me decide if I want to buy the real thing or NOT." That part right there. That's IT. I feel like people stigmatize dupes but for me, I pause on large purchases that are trendy or when I feel the overconsumption mania setting in FOR ME. (It's something I struggle with LOL! I'm easily convinced to buy things I don't wear or use. They'll literally have the tags and I'll even forget I bought something and have 2 or 3 of them in my closet.) Love this video!
Mkay😂
Nice work good luck
Thank you for watching! Appreciate it.
Spending $20,000 on a tote bag is the obvious choice, rather than spending $200 on a kislux bag and investing the remaining $19,800 since a $20,000 bag is unlikely to increase in value.
All righty then!
Whatever....😂
Being Chinese made it's worth $40.
We agree, it is good for $40.
Will the Boundless Voyage Titanium Canteen fit, i wonder...
We don't have that one, but believe the answer will be no. Thanks for watching! If you get the answer please post here.
Other people say no.
Use the pot with the handle as the “pot” and the cover with the wire handle as the lid…..you had it reversed
Right on!
Thanks for the tip!
Nice review and comparison,,,, When I was in my 20’s , 30’s and 40’s I never was concerned about ounces, grams or pounds. My kids were in Boy Scouts and Royal Ranger’s. I would always pack with them. I had a large Gregory backpack and it wasn’t uncommon for me to pack 40-50 lbs. on a trip. So when I hear people concerned over ounces or even 1 lb. ,,,,, it kinda makes me laugh,,,, My two sons were in the Marines,,,, no crying about ounces or grams allowed there,,,,,, anyway,,, If I like a piece of kit,,, ie ,, a Firebox G2 stainless steel wood stove. No big deal,,, I’ll carry it around because I like it,,, and throw in a 8” carbon steel pan,,,, it’s all good ,,!!!👍👍🔥 Great video,,,,
Carbon steel pans are great, just got the GSI 8 inch and it's non stick without nasty coatings like ptfe. I was a Scout.
Yes, all true. Much easier in our youth. Boy Scouts was great fun, like most parents we got signed up too. Went to Gilwell!
We have one here and loving it!
Ты хороший клоун, сынок.
Thanks for watching!
It's quality from David Canterbury not Russian tat.
Ce preț are cât costa vreau și eu o asa sobita...
Thanks for watching!
If someone uses it for hiking, weight makes a big difference, otherwise the traditional heavier Swedish steel stove is fine, I think! 🤔🤔
That's the point...the weight. I use my M40 and PFM40 for car and motorcycle camping so no problem there.
Yes, the titanium option is really great for a lighter load.
ယဉ်ကျေးမှုကူးပြောင်းခြင်း😊
thank you :)
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I use my kislux as a work bag and have had no issues at all. Itâs a comfortable bag, fits a good amount and hadnât lost its shape. With that being said, I also take care of all my bags and donât carry a water bottle, pens, keys or anything that can damage the interio.
Cool😂
OK!
I have the EL400B. I haven't got to use it yet, but im glad to see i chose a good brand for the task.
Yes, it is a good tester, we used it a lot selecting PV panels for the solar tiny house in the garden.
But the question is, is the real thing worth a few thousand dollars more than a kislux fake? To me, given the lack of lustre quality of modern luxury goods, it really isn't.
What?
Cool😂
Question what was used before as a burner ?
The larger military "Trangia" which was actually made by SVEA, Trangia and probably some other companies under Swedish military contract was used with the M40 and M44 kit from the late 1950s. Trangia developed it into the modern Trangia burner which works great as it has a screw cap (instead of lugs) so can store fuel inside without leaks, and has a simmer ring/snuffer. The original burner is probably about the same size as Dave Canterbury's steel alcohol burner, but we didn't buy one of those, just bought the PFM40 and some of his steel plates. We will do a video on the alcohol burners we do have as we have 6 types, so stay tuned for more...
Before the military-sized SVEA/Trangia was issued in the late 1950s, along with the aluminum heatshield/potstand, soldiers would hang the mess kit over a wood fire using the bail handle and "coathanger" hook.
Try charcoal too! Works....
Good to have a lightweight alternative as most backpackers only boil water for dehydrated meal packs and instant drinks. 800ml pot is good enough.
Yes, it's not really necessary to have a 1.5L pot if you're mainly using it for boiling water for one person.
Nice !
Thank you! Cheers!
How do you change the bluetti to pv in settings
Do you mean using the grid charging port with solar instead? You don't change settings...just plug in the PV through the charge enhancer D050S and it is automatically charging through the mains/grid port.
I still have the original M45 Swiss mess kit. It boils water about in 4-5 min. It's heavier than the Pathfinder, which is 32 oz, the original is 37 oz., not the end of the world far as weight difference. But once it's loaded up with fuel bottle, burner, matches, utensils etc... it hit's 68 oz on the scale. But the original M45 is built like a tank, I think!
Thanks for watching and your comments. It's probably the M44 you're referring to? In aluminum? There is the M40 from 1940 in stainless steel and then the aluminium M44 from 1944.
Are you from Australia? 🇦🇺
@@fromtheflightdeck252 California! Hurrah! 😁😁👌👌
@@ebikecnx7239 Mine is SST, not aluminum! Stamped NC 66, burner 68, what ever it means?
@@szaki the numbers are the year, e.g. 66 is 1966, and the letters indicate the manufacturer who had the contract
But wait! There’s more! Both products are made in China. Not Taiwan, but the boys harassing our navies in international waters Committing cultural genocide against the Uigers and Tibetans, stealing our trade secrets. So, on your digital scale, lets weigh the ethical cost of putting yuan in the uniform pockets of the People’s Army, who own most metal based manufacturing.
Let's make it in Taiwan or USA, but who makes one there?
Why do backpackers never have enough drinkable water?
Thanks for watching. Water is an issue as it's so heavy to carry at 1000kg per cubic metre. Water is essential but it's density is an issue. Plus you need a way to sterilize it in the wild.
..... a canteen cup
And stove
@fromtheflightdeck252 .... technically its a stand allowing you to either place it over coals, burn wood under it, or use an alcohol burner; same you can do with the m40. More to the point, using the cup is less than what the m40 offers (this model of cup set anyway), for instance.... wheres the frying pan? Never seen a double boiler done with a cup. Dont get me wrong, ive done a lot of stuff with a canteen cup.... but its not an equivical replacement to the m40.
True...we still love the M40 and PFM40 for motorcycle camping.
@@ebikecnx7239 save for the stand, boundless voyage i believe also makes the setup i eluded to that in terms of canteen cups would be a closer approximation. It has wires to attach instead of a bail. And it has a shallower cup/pan that nests on the bottom of it ( 2 total containers). I dont know if the smaller will seat on the larger for the same versatility because the m40 is beveled to be used that way. But it might be worth a look since now you have a stand already.
@jeremymoses7401 not your grandfather's canteen cup, but a high-tech modern canteen cup😮
He was kicked off Dual survival, apparently yall dont know the whole story…
What happened?
History ..
@@ebikecnx7239 He fibbed .. similar to what most of us have done to a greater or lesser extent during our lifetimes.
He was in uniform and served. I thank him for his service and know he is indeed a survival expert with extensive knowledge.
@ As did I and Imhave zero respect for him!🇺🇸✌🏻🍻
If you happen to be in Chiang Mai from 15 - 17 November 2024, don’t miss out on the magical Loy Krathong /Yi Peng Festival. The Yi Peng lantern festival in northern Thailand is considered to be the most ethereal event worldwide. This celebration is not only magnificent, but it also has a lot of religious and cultural significance. Thus, it’s a great way for travelers to learn more about Thailand’s rich culture and traditions. Here we are in Doi Saket where a lively festival takes place the next 3 nights.
Going on 15 to 17 November 2024..lanterns, fireworks and floating lanterns❤
THANKS FOR THE REVIEW. CAN YOU ADVISE WHAT MAXPEDITION POUCH YOU ARE USING FOR THE HEAVY COVER? REGARDS STU
Don't they make the canteen pouch anymore? It's a canteen carrier.
Thanks for watching and your comments! It's a Maxpedition canteen pouch we got about 7 years ago, not sure of any model number as it's been a few years since 2018 when we bought it. It's designed for the USGI style kidney-shaped canteens. Our Nalegene Oasis also fits it fine, in fact easier to get in and out as that one is slightly smaller than 1L. The Heavy Cover/Keith fits snugly as it is 1.1L.
Got 1 brand new original never used. Also another 1 used.Marvellous mess kits.👍
Nice one! Thanks for watching, appreciate your taking time to watch.
Only $67 on Amazon? The MP40 set is not that heavy enough to justify switching.
It's better directly from Dave Canterbury's Self Reliance Outfitters with first time buyer coupon. Got 2 for $40 each..
Get one from SRO much better, as backup for emergencies. We have the M40 too.
@ebikecnx7239 yes, two is one, and one is none😊
Would love to see a boil test using a Trangia alcohol burner in the Boundless Voyage setup.
Yes me too, it's gitvto be faster than M40
Will be doing that exactl comparison shortly...stay tuned! Planning to get that done in about a week.
Other reviews has usually failed to recognize that they choke the burner when they are not turning the cup about 90 degrees while standing on the stove. Also very interested to see if it is possible to use the Trangia simmer ring on this stove. Really looking forward for your results.
@@MatHahogg good idea
Boundless Voyage also had a replacement canteen cup set consisting of two cups one large one small both stacking but wait there's more 😂 about 18 months to two years later the decided to release their own 'interpretation' of a GI canteen system comprising one bottle two stacking cups but...for some strange reason they 'cut off' the rounded ends of both parts therefore making them, while fully functional on their own, they are mostly incompatible with either GI or aftermarket equipment most interesting yes
Thanks for watching and your comments. Yes, some BV is kind of head scratching in design, but this 2-in-1 set is really good. So packable compared to the M40.
THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Good review.
I would appreciate the weight of only the pots without the windshield of both the original and the PFM40. The windshield of the PFM40 is steel and the original one is aluminium.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Will check the weight for you and post here shortly.
If you can avoid it, never buy stainless steel or titanium gear for cooking saucy food while camping/hiking, unless of course you only plan on boiling water in it and NOTHING else, as anything else is impossible to clean off it. Just buy yourself the grey non-stick GSI Soloist and enjoy a lifetime of cooking anything you want in the field with zero cleanup effort...
I keep away from toxic non-stick pans. Teflon is really bad stuff.
GSI make a great nitrided (case hardened) 8 inch skillet in carbon steel that is great for not sticking. You might see it when we're doing some cooking with these sets.
I avoid those aluminum and Teflon pots and pans as they're really toxic. Teflon is a forever chemical already polluting the environment and our bodies😮
I avoid non-stick lightweight aluminium and Teflon coated pots and pans😮
No way I will use Teflon😮
I love the pfm40, unfortunately instead of spot welding the handle they used aluminum rivets. It end up in thr food. The rivets are worn out
Did you notify Self Reliance Outfitters (Dave Canterbury) as they do have lifetime warranty on their products?
@@fromtheflightdeck252 yes, best contact SRO as it is supposed to be 100% stainless steel
Just took a look at ours and the rivets are looking like stainless steel, very shiny and not duller like aluminum. Did you get an early one, or purchase it later? Maybe they switched to stainless rivets later... Anyway, pretty sure these rivets are stainless steel on hours, time will tell...
@@ebikecnx7239Dave Canterbury stands by his products, best to contact SRO❤
You are missing the plastic fuel bottle to go with your M40. Three crowns, black lid, marked "RODSPRIT nycket brandfarlig GIFTIG." My bottle is stamped "mellerud 65-03'' on the base. Capacity is about 300 millilitres. Body is opaque, with a frosted finish. Happy Trails !
Oh yes that's right! Got to get one next!
A very good review thanks. I do have the original M40 kits and M44. As for lightweight cooking. I will stick with my U.S.Army cooksets and G.i.mess kit system. Thanks for the review.👌👍
Good choice. Thanks for watching.
I have a steel WW2 GI mess kit, very good equipment..historical too.
@fromtheflightdeck252 Yes mine are all Ww2 dated. And some 1960 era. GREAT KIT AND I USE IT.
The Heavy Cover/Keith canteen fitting and the Nalgene Oasis is a big advantage ❤
We agree! Thanks for watching.
That's a neat idea to have a canteen cook set
@suriyaprom74 yes because it is more packable, it is more likely to go in a haversack than lugging the PFM40 set around. 😊
Great piece of kit for cooking outdoors😮
We agree!
The M40 Swedish military mess kit and Dave Canterbury's Pathfinder PFM40 reproduction are great in our opinion, but fairly heavy at roughly 1kg. Great for car camping, small groups and prepping for emergencies such as extended power outages. Some commentators asked for a lightweight alternative for backpacking and we found it in the Boundless Voyage 2-in-1 set in titanium. It cost us $50, arrived quickly in the mail and weighed in at a tiny 233g. Then we discovered it can hold a canteen bottle as well as burn a variety of fuels...
I have a oair with the crowns, one of those is used in a car kit another in my boat kit for fushing, not something I have when out walkjng... they ARE useful and hold up to quite some abuse.
@@najroe lucky to get 2
@@fromtheflightdeck252 here in Sweden they are EVERYWHERE.I find them in second hand stores all the time. same with other outdoor related stuff, A second hand mora knife is not even considered worth trying to sell, a used one would be like under $1, I can get a new for $5... So we are spoiled.
BS….
@@hiramhaji7813 oh? what is? I bought a new Mora 511 for 55SkR few weeks ago, and I found a messkit in red cross for 100skr few weeks ago, no burner or bottle but otherwise complete, I found a bunch of old moras in metal "tin" (empty paint can) at garage sale, he wanted 100skr for 11 knives (only 5 with sheet, but still).
To all the commentators saying the stainless steel Swedish M40 mess kits and the Dave Canterbury's Pathfinder PFM40 are too heavy, we found that the Boundless Voyage 2-in-1 for $50 is like a mini titanium M40 for one person.😊
Great for $50
We found a titanium mini M40 mess kit! This Boundless Voyage 2-in-1 stove set can make a great lightweight alternative to the Swedish Mess Kit M40 from 1940, and the modern reproduction of the M44 from Dave Canterbury's Self Reliance Outfitters, the PFM40.
cheap bcos US dollars is stronger
Yes, inexpensive for expats true, but locals also seem to enjoy life better and don't worry about food security and rising heating costs. There are edible plants around us, in the jungle, free fishing in the lakes and rivers, and heating is never an issue!
Thanks for watching!
True, still better life in sunshine😊
Pathfinder equipment is made of steel, is WAY TOO HEAVY, so it is NOT conducive to hiking long distances. I bought the Pathfinder & HATE IT. I went ahead & got the aluminum, Swedish kit & love it.
The reason why all the modern reproductions are stainless or titanium is we now know that aluminum is really bad for us, it’s been linked to Alzheimer’s and it’s why deodorants clearly mark if they use aluminum oxide as an ingredient these days. In my personal opinion stainless is way nicer to cook with too. I wish someone would make aluminum stuff with modern ceramic non stick coatings for the best of both worlds but it would probably end up costing the same as titanium at that point.
Steel from 1940 is actually very "clean" and less likely to cause diseases than aluminuum. I got a stainless steel M40 for that reason.
@@fromtheflightdeck252 and also less radioactive!
@@suislidesullivan Agreed! We also found a lightweight titanium system that is like a "mini titanium M40" that holds a canteen bottle and basically can also use any fuel such as wood, charcoal, alcohol and Esbit/hexamine. It doesn't have a frypan but is super-lightweight and there will be a video on it in 2 or 3 more days!
Stay tuned as we found what is basically a titanium mini M40! Making a video on it in next 2 or 3 days...
When using the pan, fold up the two rings on the handle and insert a stick to give an extended heat resistant handle, thats why the rings are there.
Good advice!
Thanks for watching! Yes, we forgot to mention that nice feature. Stay tuned as we found what is basically a "mini titanium M40" that can hold a canteen bottle and basically can also use any fuel, Esbit, alcohol, examine or twigs too...
I believe the rings were for your bayonet to slide through.
@@hydraman5 Or a stick.
I don’t do Starbucks due to their politics against the military
We have only ever bought their Via as it's good to show in a video. Normally, we use an Aeropress Go or a Picopresso (for espresso) as we roast our own green beans. Starbucks we agree is awful in so many ways..
We recommend, if you can, finding a source of green coffee beans and roasting your own fresh beans. We started with a popcorn popper, and then a hot air gun, and graduated to a tiny steelmdrum roaster and from some of our earlier videos on roasting you can see how easy it is.
@ebikecnx7239 good advice, even a cast iron pan will do in a pinch!😂
@ I will definitely keep you in mind!
Lovely video. Excellent looking places you took us to. I like how your lady even rolls a Surron. Are you familiar with Onewheels? I’m curious if you’ve seen any in Thailand.
Thanks for watching! Yes, there are some EUC or Onewheels here, but not very common. There is a Thailand EUC Club on Facebook.
Sur Ron great fun❤
@@suriyaprom74 IKR hahaha
We ride out on the Sur Ron ebikes to breakfast/brunch and visit Coffee Me and Tondoi Coffee & Steakhouse to show you the cost of living in Thailand.
I get so sick of people saying things were made in China that it makes my butt itch. So fn what?
Some top products like Yeti cups are made in China, it all depends on the level of QC. Pathfinder products are great..
Thanks for watching! Yes, this is great quality and we're happy with it.
@@ebikecnx7239 true 👍
My Chinese-made Kershaw knives are just as good as the US-made ones at a fraction of the price.
Great to sleep there. Peaceful in the noisy airport.